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Debbie

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Sep 12, 2019, 10:37:31 AM9/12/19
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As you recall, I said I was playing hard and loose with the rules this time, so please find the definition of the word "Prisencolinensinainciusol" below via the two links:


We have a tie this time between Ephrem and Tony with 4 points each. I had to go back to Round 3011 to find a point at which Ephrem was ahead of Tony in the rolling scores by virtue of Tony guessing the real definition, so I believe Ephrem is the next dealer. (Right?)

I awarded 2 dealer points to both Tim Lodge (for a lost definition) and John Barr whose definition I totally misunderstood privately when he sent it. Here are the scores:
Round 3013 -- Definitions for  Prisencolinensinainciusol Written by: Voted for by:  Score:
[nonce]     a "secret ingredient" in a New Zealand television commercial which promises to reduce the price of clothing from a certain company. Dave Cunningham Mike S. 1
A nonce word for a cleaning solution used in the halls of government (Spy, U.S. magazine, 1982) Nancy Shepherdson Judy, Mike S. 2
an acidic forest soil of low fertility, common to the cool, humid areas of North America and Eurasia Judy Madnick Guerri 1
a price that is made to appear to be cheap, but is actually not a bargain. Tim Bourne Dave C, Tim L 2
Chemical name of an industrial cleanser commonly sold as Prisol Efrem Mallach Judy, Nancy, Dave C, Tim L 4
A leached soil formed mainly in cool, humid climates. Chris Carson   0
The sleepy mumble of someone with a hangover. Shani Naylor Daniel W. 1
To put into a mixed and disordered condition Daniel Widdis   0
Gibberish Dixionary   na
A cyclodiene chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticide that causes liver disease in Tony Abell Tim B, Efrem, Shani, Guerri 4
animals and is a suspected human carcinogen.      
a branch of nuclear physics. Guerri Stevens Tim B  1
togetherness, harmony. Coined for promotional use by the 1968 World Language Fair. Ryan McGill Daniel W. 1
a proprietary aliphatic solvent used in oil and gas extraction (fracking) Mike Shefler Ephrem, Nancy, Shani 3
       
  John B Dealer gives 2 points  
  Tim Lodge Dealer gives 2 points  




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Efrem G Mallach

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Sep 12, 2019, 10:46:32 AM9/12/19
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I accept the deal, but because my 4-round rolling score is higher than Tony's. Were we tied there, rather than going back to earlier rounds until there's one where we're not tied, I think we move to cumulative scores since the game began - in which Tony is well ahead of me.

Anyhow, new word soon. Definitions will be due Saturday morning US EDT.

Efrem

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Guerri Stevens

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:16:30 PM9/12/19
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the pesticide definition: is it really Roundup by any chance. I used it for many years, and was horrified to learn that it was dangerous.

Guerri Stevens

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:21:24 PM9/12/19
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Does the red color (as seen on my machine, anyway) mean something.

Debbie

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:52:36 PM9/12/19
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Guerri, it was for my benefit only.

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Efrem G Mallach

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:54:25 PM9/12/19
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No, it's not. DDT used chlorinated hydrocarbons. The active ingredient in Roundup is glyphosate, which as far as is known at this time seems to be safe in recommended quantities. (Lots of wiggle room there. I'm not about to go out on a limb and make any safety claims for it.) The issues with Roundup were with its supposedly inert ingredients, at least of of which - polyethoxylated tallowamine - turned out to be far from inert in humans. 

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Efrem G Mallach

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:56:06 PM9/12/19
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Guerri,

It seems to highlight the names of the two players who tied fior the lead with 4 points each.

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Ryan McGill

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Sep 12, 2019, 5:07:59 PM9/12/19
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Wow. That song is a trip.




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Ryan McGill

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Sep 12, 2019, 6:54:48 PM9/12/19
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Showed it to my friend, who's a real Chaplinhead, and he brought up a similar nonsense song from Chaplin's Modern Times, which is meant to sound Italian (as far as we can tell). I wonder if Prisencolinensinaincusol was something of a response to Chaplin's efforts. In this video, the song starts at about 1:30:

Tony Abell

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Sep 12, 2019, 9:47:45 PM9/12/19
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My definition was a real one for heptachlor. There have been a lot of
pesticides that turned out to be dangerous to humans or other untargeted
animals. Personally, I'm not convinced yet that glyphosate is one of them, at
least when used occasionally by homeowners.

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Guerri Stevens

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Sep 13, 2019, 5:53:33 PM9/13/19
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Would someone please send me instructions on how to send a message to Efrem. The only address I have for him is

    efrem g Mallach via dixonary and I don't think that will work. I am using Thunderbird, in case that matters.

On 9/12/2019 10:46 AM, 'Efrem G Mallach' via Dixonary wrote:

Efrem Mallach

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Sep 13, 2019, 7:14:35 PM9/13/19
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My address is in every word announcement and progress report I send: emallach at verizon dot net. Hasn’t changed in all the years I’ve played. 

Looking forward to seeing your def!!

E

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Guerri Stevens

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:18:11 PM9/14/19
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We hire people to do some of our yard work, but I still enjoy puttering around. I wonder about people whose job or business is landscaping and other yard work, and who use chemicals of some kind. And some of these dangers don't come to light right away.

Debbie

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:33:05 PM9/14/19
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I worry for those who spray our homes for insects.

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Guerri Stevens

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:45:42 PM9/14/19
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The address that shows up is Efrem Mallach via Dixo...@googlegroups.com

I am replying to your message. It is possible that there was, at some point, a glitch on my end that caused a message not to be delivered.

Efrem G Mallach

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:47:04 PM9/14/19
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The history of science is replete with things that were thought to be benign but were later found to cause serious problems over time.

- Lewis Carroll's mad hatter was not a random turn of phrase. Exposure to mercury in making felt for hats causes a neurological disease, erethism, also called "mad hatter's disease" or "mad hatter's syndrome."

- Marie Curie died of anemia caused by exposure to radium. Despite that, it was used to make glow-in-the-dark watches well into the last half of the 20th century. The workers who applied it to watch dials would wet their brushes in their mouths, leading to radium necrosis of the jaw..

- Many of us are old enough to remember when three out of four doctors recommended Chesterfield cigarettes.

- Any number of plant and animal species were introduced to new regions to control pests, and turned out to be worse pests.

- And what will we find out, a few decades from now, about genetically modified foods?

The unifying thread to many of these examples is that not only did something cause harm, but the mechanism through which it caused harm was not known to the science of the day. ("The day" is not always long ago.) Thus, a scientist who was asked if something could be harmful could honestly reply "No, it can't," because it could not cause harm through any known mechanism. Therefore, anyone who says something can't be harmful (e.g., "GMOs can't hurt you") is essentially saying "we know all there is to know about all possible mechanisms through which something can harm us." I don't think any reputable scientist would agree with that statement in so many words, yet many of them say things that imply it. 

Back in the 1990s, when the university at which I then taught didn't have enough classroom space in the building where we usually held our classes, some were scheduled for a building that housed the university's nuclear physics research reactor. To their credit, though only after some pushback, they let faculty refuse classroom assignments there - despite assurances that the level of radiation in the building was completely safe. I did. (I still fly to Australia and New Zealand, though. Getting there by ship from North America takes too long. Fortunately, the chances of my fathering any more children are small.) 

Caveat user.  

Efrem

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Efrem G Mallach

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:49:26 PM9/14/19
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I agree that it shows up that way. I'm still trying to fix it. In the meantime, though, I always give my email address in the body of all dealer messages as "emallach at verizon dot net." It shouldn't be hard to find. 

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Guerri Stevens

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Sep 14, 2019, 12:59:31 PM9/14/19
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Now we have, or at least some of us have, mercury amalgam fillings in our teeth.

Johnb - co.uk

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Sep 14, 2019, 1:20:11 PM9/14/19
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sometimes one has to balance things... half a dozen mercury fillings may not be anywhere near as serious a problem as persistent recurring abscesses... the issue is not so much about the damage things may cause but  two other things -

  • a) when you DO know the potential problems judging the relative benefits and risks
  •  b) the blind ignorance of blithely declaring 'no problem exists' by so called authority - it is then very much still a risk assessment but much harder for each of us

Something that I recognise more and more as I grow older - living is a problem and life is a terminal situation. That doesn't cause me to be irresponsible, nor to 'not worry' but it does help me to be aware that I myself cannot control everything


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Debbie

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Sep 14, 2019, 1:37:18 PM9/14/19
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You do have the heart and soul of a teacher.

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