iGate AND Digipeater?

[mikel...@gmail.com]

Craig and Group,

 

Can we set Digipi to be both an iGate and Digipeater at the same time?

 

The GUI doesn’t seem to allow them both to be enabled simultaneously.

 

73

 

—Mike

Michael Lord-Imaizumi
mikel...@gmail.com
619-840-4715

N5MCL EL09wr

 

[Mike Backus]

Mike, 

Mike here again. 

When you have it setup to be a digipeater, by default it will act as an igate as well. You don't need to get both going. The only requirement is that you correctly enter your aprs information in the initial setup.

I have been running my digipeater (KB9ZDD-2) on a PiZero 2W for a couple months now. Igate works as long as my internet connection stays up, which is an issue out here in the boonies. 

Mike KB9ZDD 

[mikel...@gmail.com]

Mike,

 

Thank you!  I thought that might be the case (in light of the DigiPI GUI behavior).

 

I’m excited to be able to offer a Digipeater/iGate to the far side of my town.

 

Thanks, again.  73

 

—Mike

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[Craig]

yah, i think don and friends followed up, but Digipeater is a "superset" of IGate, no 
need to run both.

if it helps,
-craig
KM6LYW

[mikel...@gmail.com]

All good here.  Thanks!

[Don Rolph]

From the perspective of direolf I run:

- direwolf systems which are digipeaters but not Igates

- direwolf systems which are Igates but not digipeaters

and

- a small subset of direwolf systems which are both digipeaters and Igates

The Igate configuration is separate from the digipeater configuration in the direwolf.conf file.

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[Ken Simpson]

THIS! This is exactly what I’ve been wanting to do with DigiPi. I couldn’t find this info anywhere. 

Thanks Mike. I appreciate it. 

Ken

W5REO

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[Jay Aho]

Brand new user, so please forgive the ignorance.  Watched the config video and tried searching some of the discussions, but didn't find an answer to the following... 

Can you run a digipeater (with igate) AND Winlink RMS node at the same time?  I'm having the same issue as the original poster where the GUI doesn't allow it.

The GUI also doesn't seem to have any way to configure these services.  Am I missing something?  I thought DigiPi was web-interface configuration instead of config file editing.  Am I mistaken?

Thanks.  Jay, N8QYQ

[Scott Currie]

Jay-

Regardless of the limitations on DigiPi, I can assure you if you put a RMS Gateway up on the APRS frequency, you will get a ton of hate mail really quickly. An RMS Gateway will really tie up an APRS channel, blocking the APRS traffic. The users will not appreciate it! If you are running on a separate channel from the normal APRS traffic for some specific operation then OK, but please do not put an RMS Gateway up on 144.390.

-Scott, NS7C

Winlink Development Team

[Jay Aho]

I have two separate radios and intended different frequencies.  As of now, I'm running a direwolf based APRS digi/igate, and am configuring a separate Winlink RMS node (on a different frequency).  I was hoping to control both radios from the one Pi4.  Not to operate on the same frequency.  Which led me to my question... can the DigiPi control both? 

[Craig]

Hi Jay, good question.

Digipeater is also an igate, so you have both there.

Winlink cannot/should-not operate on 144.390, so they're mutually exclusive.

What exactly would you like to configure?  For a winlink *server* you could/should
edit /etc/rmsgw/channels.xml and sysop.xml with your information/city, etc.

cool,
-craig
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[Jay Aho]

That all makes sense.  I had no intention of operating Winlink on 144.390.  I had an impression that I could run both the APRS digi and the Winlink RMS node from the DigiPi.  If so, it would have eliminated a second Windows PC for the RMS_Relay software.

Thanks. 

[Craig]

DigiPi isn't really setup for multichannel direwolf configurations.  It doesn't mean you
can't do it -- it's just not something new operators are starting with.   DigiPi will use
the one and only sound card, if it finds two, USB is given priority.  You'll need two
audio devices to decode multiple channels.   You can see this in the direwolf*.sh
scripts for each service.

if it helps,
-craig
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[Mike Backus]

I run both, APRS Digi/Igate and a Winlink RMS (currently down for radio rebuild), but I do them from two separate Raspberry Pi Zero 2W's

Whatever interface board or method works best for your radio will run either. PiZero 2W's are fairly inexpensive. I have tried the TOAD board, the Fe-Pi board, the DRA-Pi-Zero and the AIOC's and they all work with their own limitations. 

I have settled on the DRA-Pi-Zero board (https://www.masterscommunications.com/products/radio-adapter/dra/drapizero.html) for both of my full time digipi's. I found that the audio is great and the connectors are very adaptable. I have some repurposed Kenwood Commercial radios (TK-780) that i was able to get cheap, retune and pull the signals out of. With a ham radio with a data plug, it would have been even easier. 

I am not the programmer, but Digipi is designed to get a digital station on the air with the least amount of fuss and the most adaptable use case and user interface. Direwolf can handle multiple radios and soundcards, but that is a complex build.  

Unless you are willing to build your own image and instances of direwolf, i would just stick to one pi per radio and run multiple pi's if you want multiple VHF stations.