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Michael Lewis

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Jan 7, 2021, 12:52:11 PM1/7/21
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Have we explored GEDmatch connections in this group?

I know we have our matches in FTDNA. Would GEDmatch give us more information?

Michael GEDmatch # BE6224263

Daniel C. Lewis

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Jan 7, 2021, 1:20:16 PM1/7/21
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Michael;  I’ve done no exploring but I’m on GEDmatch #A098714, and my father’s A829778 if I have it right.  Dan 
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Joe Murray

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Jan 7, 2021, 1:58:11 PM1/7/21
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"No shared DNA segments found " for Michael nor Daniel, but I wouldn't expect any based on our Y-DNA distances.
However if anyone else cares to compare, I'm kit A588343 on GEDmatch

Joe Murray
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Dave Lewis

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Jan 7, 2021, 3:50:30 PM1/7/21
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Some thoughts:

I use GEDmatch some, some for fun and some for serious research. Some of its better tools are not free, but you can pay a monthly fee and consolidate your work, if you plan well. But most of the commercial sites now have similar tools. Some tools can be found free on the Internet. A better, more intense researcher may disagree with what I just said. I don't know all that it can do.

The original value of GEDmatch is that it consolidates DNA from numerous sites. But, as Joe says, the distance between many of us is too great to still have common autosomal DNA to compare. There is nothing we can do about that, and it renders the site useless for cousins too far removed. If we all branch from Edmund, or even his children, all sites are useless for autosomal DNA with distant cousins. I don't believe GEDmatch has anything to do with Y-DNA.

A problem with GEDmatch is the news that broke a year or so ago about it being used for law enforcement purposes and not just genealogy research. Many people are already nervous about putting their DNA out on public sites. That revelation just raised the level of uncertainty for many. I have very socially responsible friends, who have no concerns about legal issues, who pulled their DNA from the site once that news broke. There really are not that many people who use GEDmatch compared with the number of matches now on the commercial sites.

A person's DNA record belongs to that person. We can download our results and copy them to another site. To do that can be free, but with very limited access. With a fee, you can get all or most of the services. But, again, that doesn't help for distant cousins.

Dave Lewis

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Jan 8, 2021, 8:39:02 AM1/8/21
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Let me add some more thoughts. Sorry for taking up everyone's time.

Personally, I think the only way to add clarity to how we are related is through FTDNA's Big Y. However, I think only the descendants of Edmund's son Thomas would benefit, as the other sons represented in our group have only one or two individuals included, and one person doesn't work. And, the only group below Thomas that would benefit, in my opinion, is the Southern Branch, as most of the other Thomas descendant lineages within the Thomas group have been pretty much figured out. And, more testing Big Y within the southern branch would only serve to satisfy one's curiosity about the genetic character of the group, as the lineages represented within the branch have been figured out back to Samuel.

It may be that autosomal DNA might be able to bridge the gap between the southern branch and its probable link to the New Jersey branch of Thomas's descendants. I have 8 or so quite distant matches, that are clear Lewis matches, who have trees that link mostly to one or another son of Edward, b. 1712 NJ (his date of birth does vary). But two or three of the matches do link to other lineages descending from Edmund. Problem is in some cases the documentation these matches present, if they have any, do not match the trees, so for the time being I'm stymied on this. These are all northern tier lineages (NJ>PA>IL>IA>WI, or similar). I need to study this, but at the moment (a very long moment of several months) I've been researching around a match that could be significant for the advancing the southern branch back in time. I've done the online record searches (which is pretty good but not perfect) and delved into genetic triangulation, which I had not done before. But for one glitch in the triangulations, I would be ready to present this. As it stands, I'm 95%-plus certain of the authenticity of the match, but have some lingering doubts that I'm trying to work through. Wish me luck.

Dave

Joy Durrett

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Jan 8, 2021, 3:21:59 PM1/8/21
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Hi Everyone 

Thank you for all you are doing. I agree we need more people to do a  Big Y. That might help place my Asa Lewis and Diane’s JohnW. Lewis 

I have been looking for my Lewis ancestors in a few places. The states in question are Pennsylvania, Vermont and New Hampshire. 

Asa Lewis’s military record from the War of 1812 are from Delaware County, New York. Delaware county borders Pennsylvania. After looking at both states. I found that they fought over the boundaries until an agreement was reached. Some cities went back and forth for awhile so my thought is are the records In Pennsylvania? Asa Lewis removed to Jackson County, Michigan. I am still looking for his parents as well as Diane’s John W. Lewis 

I contacted Pennsylvania State Library to see what they can tell me about which towns went back and forth between these two states I am waiting to here back. I probably will not hear back until after COVID. 

If I find anything I will let you all know. 

Dave, let me know if you find any new Lewis ancestors from the north. 


Joy

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