I received a DIY drive where the ROM chip had been switched to an incompatible PCB and then sent off to somewhere else. I downloaded the ROM and there are a number of pages like the one here. I don’t recall seeing this type of stuff in any other ROM. Is this normal or did somebody try something they shouldn’t have? Thanks.
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That text refers to a Seagate SSHD (parameteric tables etc). I have never seen any of that in the ROM, but then again I probably have not looked. You can download a ROM from HDDSurgery and compare the two. Or post the model number here and we can check.
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I have just looked at a Bacall ROM and it does not contain any of the data yours does. Like I say this is text is in connection with recovery from a SSHD NAND. I think either your client or whoever he sent it to f****d up.
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This ROM is saying it’s from a Grenada family.
This ROM has a SN: Z4Z6R5C0.
Is the drive the same?
CRC look okay apart from IAP.
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Here is the ROM. Do you want the markings on the ROM chip?
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A bad CRC for the IAP is normal. Other CRCs are OK, as per F3ROMexplorer.
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PC-3000 (and F3RomExplorer for CRC issues).
You wont hose the new PCB if you take a copy of the donor ROM first.
You can always put it back on with software if PC-3000 will no longer see the donor PCB.
Are you sure this wasn’t just a bad ROM write on PC-3000?
Have you tried writing it again, and/or with software?
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Yes, Tim, that is the serial number. I thought it was Bacall because that is what the other drive has. This drive is actually 4+ years older so it definitely could be Grenada. What did you use to read the information?
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Phil, did you try the ROM unlock on this drive?
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Do you still have the original PCB? Can you show us photos of all the PCBs that are involved?
I would want to compare the date codes on everything (PCB, ROM, other ICs) against the label. In fact I don't understand why people don't do this as a matter of course in these types of situations.:-?
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Isn't this one of those boards where transferring a ROM between two working boards fails because of incompatible content in the NAND?
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That’s the way it used to be with the older Seagate drives (pre SMR).
Rosewood are a little different.
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My understanding is that no-spin symptoms are often caused by a corrupt NAND. In such cases the usual solution is to initialise the NAND. There is a terminal command to do this, but you first need to reach terminal.
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I don’t think we should be classing them as Data Recovery if that’s the case.
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Is it possible that the other data recovery shop replaced the PCB with the one you have now? I can't imagine that Seagate would have sold a NAND-less Firecuda.
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If they didn’t know what they were doing (and they clearly didn’t) and were swapping adaptives in PC-3000 from ROM to ROM, if they swapped all adaptives (CAP, SAP, RAP and IAP - which is an option) and not just the head adaptives it does also change the SN in the ROM.
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I found this serial number in the SAP: W1H3LMY7
"Video 3.5 HDD, ST2000VM003, Warranty Expired March 1, 2017"
Looks like a fake HDD.
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As I understand it, the donor PCB + patient ROM spins up the donor, whereas the same combination does not spin up the patient. I checked the HDA pinouts and they appear identical, at least by visual inspection. Therefore I'm wondering whether the patient's preamp may be faulty.I would use this same combination to spin up the donor, this time with HDA isolated. Then do the same on the patient. This will tell us if the firmware is looking for a preamp during the POST.
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When the patient ROM is on the donor PCB, it tries to set up a link between the MCU and the ASIC. The ASIC is the bridge between the MCU and the NAND. The PLL (Phase Locked Loop) refers to the data clock between MCU and ASIC, ie the ASIC and MCU are synchronising their clocks. Since the ASIC is not present on the donor PCB, we get the "Bridge PLL Enable Failed" error.
Could you show us the terminal output from the patient PCB (100731495) and patient ROM, ie the original configuration?
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That's the message you get when the ROM is dead, or not detected, or has bad content.
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When the PCB powers up, the MCU begins executing its kernel code ("SEA4 Boot ROM 1.0"). This kernel code looks for a boot device which in this case is the serial flash memory, ie the external "ROM". It then checks the 32-byte header of the ROM for a valid checksum (0x0000). If the checksum is OK, then the kernel upacks the ROM into RAM and transfers control to the RAM code.The header's checksum is calculated by adding the first 16 little-endian words. I have confirmed that the checksum is valid.
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So you have terminal access and Ace logged in and couldn’t recover it?
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Yes.
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