Macbook Pro Recovery
Philip Shaw
Luke Coughey
Good afternoon. I have a customer who has a Macbook Pro 13" 2017 touchbar laptop. I believe this is the model that has an integrated hard drive. It has stopped working and she has been told by Apple and Geek Squad (laugh) that the data is not retrievable. Apparently Drive Savers says they can do it from $700-$3,000. I know we have talked about this before but does anybody have a way of recovering data from this drive that won't boot up? Wasn't there some guy in New Jersey that was able to do this?Thanks.
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t...@desertdatarecovery.com
There is a tool for recovering data from on board SSDs, but its not as simple as it seems. I do have this piece of equipment, but wish I had not purchased it. In order to recover the data you need an identical Mac which is used in the recovery process. There are also lots of issues with the Firewire connections.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/22/2018-macbook-pro-lacks-data-recovery-port/
I agree with Luke, Louis Rossman is the man.
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Data Recovery Guru
Good afternoon. I have a customer who has a Macbook Pro 13" 2017 touchbar laptop. I believe this is the model that has an integrated hard drive. It has stopped working and she has been told by Apple and Geek Squad (laugh) that the data is not retrievable. Apparently Drive Savers says they can do it from $700-$3,000. I know we have talked about this before but does anybody have a way of recovering data from this drive that won't boot up? Wasn't there some guy in New Jersey that was able to do this?Thanks.
Alandata Recovery
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Phil
I have the tool for sale if you need. Please don't hesitate to contact me pm.
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Luke Coughey
This model MB should have the internal SSD port for the apple data recovery tool. If so, we have the tool and can try to recover for you. First, try target disk mode if computer still turns on. If it doesn't turn on and you can't fix it, using apple data recovery tool is next step. Then microsoldering repairs with rossmann or similar. I wouldn't even consider drive savers for this case.@tim, not sure what you mean regarding apple tool, it's worked ~4 out of 5 times for me when original MB didn't power on at all (the time it didn't work the MB was a very liquid damaged). Very easy to use, just connect tool to internal port, and connect tool a working mac to mount drive onto. Don't need identical mac nor firewire.
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Thanks Brian. I will give it another try and let you know how I get on. Maybe I was just unlucky and the couple I tried it on were unrecoverable. There has been lots of reports on HDDGuru and similar sites about DR companies have issues with the tool.
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I've got the tool here, but haven't had any real opportunities to even try it.
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Chris Berge
Humm... never looked for other's experience with it but maybe there are non-apple ones now? Mine is definitely an original Apple one. If the SSD is still good (no liquid damage), it's always worked perfectly (and always to my amazement).And, for the record... According to my notes, it will ONLY work with 2016-2017 MacBook PRO 13” and 15” with Touchbar.
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Fraser Corrance
Scott Moulton
They only sold this Lifeboat device to Apple service techs, so there are some places selling them on ebay and such. It is a useful tool but only on specific devices.
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Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
Never heard of it myself. Considering that the schematics for most MacBook Pros are available on the internet, I imagine someone with the skills and resources could build such a device.
+1 for the lifeboat connector. I have used my lifeboat connector device a dozen times now and every one has been a success. That connector was one of the best idea Apple has had in years. Unfortunately, only the 2016 and 2017 touchbar models had this feature. The 2018 and 2019 models don't have this feature.....WTF? Thank you, Apple.
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 1:26:33 PM UTC-6, Tim - Desert Data Recovery wrote:
There is a tool for recovering data from on board SSDs, but its not as simple as it seems. I do have this piece of equipment, but wish I had not purchased it. In order to recover the data you need an identical Mac which is used in the recovery process. There are also lots of issues with the Firewire connections.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/22/2018-macbook-pro-lacks-data-recovery-port/
I agree with Luke, Louis Rossman is the man.
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Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
DriveSavers answer to any single drive (flash, SSD, or HDD) recovery with a price range of $700 - $3000.
As far as I'm concerned, this is really not a data recovery issue with the embedded SSDs. Rather, it requires the expertise of a microsoldering expert familiar with system boards who can repair the system board without damaging the storage.
I recommend getting in contact with https://rossmanngroup.com/ to see if they are up for the challenge.
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Good afternoon. I have a customer who has a Macbook Pro 13" 2017 touchbar laptop. I believe this is the model that has an integrated hard drive. It has stopped working and she has been told by Apple and Geek Squad (laugh) that the data is not retrievable. Apparently Drive Savers says they can do it from $700-$3,000. I know we have talked about this before but does anybody have a way of recovering data from this drive that won't boot up? Wasn't there some guy in New Jersey that was able to do this?
Thanks.
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Steps and methods were taught by our group with luke. Rossman was part of our group, we have an ftp server were we have fully paid classes and specific files and rom and binary files and efi. With tons of videos that you can not find on youtube. Rossmann shared few of these files and that’s why he got suspended. Now he pays luke to manage his private paid forum. He will never touch any mac with t3 chip since we will not provide him any help at all. You can confirm all this by calling him. He will never make a video saying who taught him or why he was suspended from any access or why he can not repair newer mc model like the 2019 or 2018 and up. Even drbios and vina suspended his accounts by him sharing other people hard work over the years
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Everything that Rossman publishes is shareable.If you have just one example to the contrary, please share it with us.
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Only scot name was elected and none of the other members got accepted. This group has sensitive data and access to apple gsx and Samsung global system and many other manufacture. After rossmann did this we started more strict people. Its like the masons group once u in u fully in but once u betray ur screwed. In the future youtube will block more videos and block accounts that shares confidential info
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First I took his class personally. I loved it and worth every penny and the amount of files he gave me was enormous. Build trust to gain knowledge. Regarding the secrecy, we don’t want junkie eBay people to drop the prices of the repair or to collect fame on other people hard work. Scot is an open minded person and I am positive if you ask him any question in data recovery he wont say no. Plus I took the info sec class and its boshit, it was 20% of scott class
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I have received nothing from Scott other than an online "data recovery book" which turned out to be just an abbreviated PowerPoint presentation of his course notes. It really wasn't of much use at all. In fact I should really have asked for a refund.
As for Rossman's videos, I have watched many of them and I haven't yet seen one which divulged any information that a competent, component level tech would have been able to discover for themselves. The only advantage in Rossman's videos is that he makes techs aware of the common faults, thereby shortcutting diagnostic time. This is the sort of stuff that techs do, freely, on a regular basis in numerous tech forums, eg eevblog.com and badcaps.net. Instead, the data recovery business is much too secretive and mercenary in this regard. Every trivial technical titbit is treated as if it were an industry busting trade secret. When I became a member at hddguru.com 10 years ago, a DR pro contacted me privately and offered to introduce me to the secrets of the business if I would keep quiet about TVS diodes. I was stunned. Either this person was extremely selfish, or genuinely had no idea of the trivial nature of this information. I now believe it was a combination of both.
So now when I see statements like yours, I wonder whether it involves TVS diodes, or fuses, or some other insignificant "secret". And I say this after having watched several DR forums over the past 10 years. Moreover, if someone divulges this trivial information to me, should I be sworn to secrecy, especially when I could have easily discovered this information for myself? Does such information really belong to them, or should it be in the public domain?
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Scott Moulton
The book you bought, you didn’t buy from me, you bought it from online site, which it says is to go with the class. It is the same book that is sold with version one of the Infosec Institute, which is the only reason it is still online. It clearly says it goes with the class, but version one was taught in 2007. So you are 15 years behind, we are at version 19 and 1250 pages, and it does have text and such to go with the newer books. However, they go with 50 hours of video. I do not sell any other newer book online, they all go with a class, either distance learning or the seated class.
So while I understand you might be disappointed, that is what Infosec institute is selling from the first class I wrote that they still teach without updates, so it’s not anywhere close to current. However, you should take a look at my YouTube channel. I have over 100 videos up. I put as much as I can into the public domain, and I have never tried to keep any of this info private in any way. The only thing I charge for is work I am asked to do, if someone sends me a drive to work on, or wants to have a class with me. Go watch my YouTube and you will see. There is an advantage to being in the classes because I can go over details specific to questions or teach a contiguous class from beginning to end with tools and equipment in the room.
Thank you,
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Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
I have received nothing from Scott other than an online "data recovery book" which turned out to be just an abbreviated PowerPoint presentation of his course notes. It really wasn't of much use at all. In fact I should really have asked for a refund.
As for Rossman's videos, I have watched many of them and I haven't yet seen one which divulged any information that a competent, component level tech would have been able to discover for themselves. The only advantage in Rossman's videos is that he makes techs aware of the common faults, thereby shortcutting diagnostic time. This is the sort of stuff that techs do, freely, on a regular basis in numerous tech forums, eg eevblog.com and badcaps.net. Instead, the data recovery business is much too secretive and mercenary in this regard. Every trivial technical titbit is treated as if it were an industry busting trade secret. When I became a member at hddguru.com 10 years ago, a DR pro contacted me privately and offered to introduce me to the secrets of the business if I would keep quiet about TVS diodes. I was stunned. Either this person was extremely selfish, or genuinely had no idea of the trivial nature of this information. I now believe it was a combination of both.
So now when I see statements like yours, I wonder whether it involves TVS diodes, or fuses, or some other insignificant "secret". And I say this after having watched several DR forums over the past 10 years. Moreover, if someone divulges this trivial information to me, should I be sworn to secrecy, especially when I could have easily discovered this information for myself? Does such information really belong to them, or should it be in the public domain?
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That’s the answer I expect. So my friend you are part of a group that almost everyone of it took a class, contributed to enhance what we know. Yes I am one of the people who do not want everything public so we don’t start getting ebay clients after ebay prices screwed their drivers. I mean if you don’t think this group is an added value to you there is a click on the top right say leave group. I knew you didn’t take scott class and you had something really old. I had the info sec books long time ago and when I saw the newest materials I was shocked. Idk if scott would publish the new materials or its only in class
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Scott Moulton
Are you just referring to my use of resistor? Or TVS?
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Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 2:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
@SB, I ask you again, show me just one Rossman video which you find objectionable. I spent a few hours yesterday watching his YouTube channel and found nothing which was of an industry busting nature. I can see why Crapple hate him, though.
As for learning from this group, by your own admission your aim is that outsiders like me should be prevented from learning anything, so why should you expect me to be grateful to you? Unlike you, I have spent the past 25 years providing free help in numerous technical forums, including data recovery. I have many years of component level electronics experience from a time when technicians were not just mere ROM jockeys and headswap mechanics. I don't wish to take these "secrets" to the grave with me. In fact Scott is welcome to incorporate my electronic tutorials in his technical materials, which are seriously lacking in this regard. (Note to Scott -- there is no such thing as a "TVS resistor".) I believe that Spildit at The HDD Oracle has made a similar offer.
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compos mentis
@SB, I ask you again,...
Scott Moulton
Thank you. I am aware that it is a diode, not sure about what I thought at the time of the material I might have said that. I appreciate the correction and I will make sure I correct it in any updates and future videos. Thank you.
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Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
You refer to "TVS resistors" in your course material, at least in the version that I've seen. There are TVS diodes, and there are resistors, but there are no "TVS resistors".
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 6:37:10 AM UTC+11, scott wrote:
Are you just referring to my use of resistor? Or TVS?
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It is disappointing when you refer to data recovery engineers, on a data recovery forum, as ‘mere ROM jockeys and headswap mechanics’. This is supposed to be a forum to help and assist people.
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@SB, I ask you again, show me just one Rossman video which you find objectionable. I spent a few hours yesterday watching his YouTube channel and found nothing which was of an industry busting nature. I can see why Crapple hate him, though.
As for learning from this group, by your own admission your aim is that outsiders like me should be prevented from learning anything, so why should you expect me to be grateful to you? Unlike you, I have spent the past 25 years providing free help in numerous technical forums, including data recovery. I have many years of component level electronics experience from a time when technicians were not just mere ROM jockeys and headswap mechanics. I don't wish to take these "secrets" to the grave with me. In fact Scott is welcome to incorporate my electronic tutorials in his technical materials, which are seriously lacking in this regard. (Note to Scott -- there is no such thing as a "TVS resistor".) I believe that Spildit at The HDD Oracle has made a similar offer.
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As for as rossman he never showed any in his videos so he wont get arrested but he still have all the asd and aht and ast systems on his computer. Don’t ask how I verified but we have full image of his laptop and pc. As far as sharing knowledge I was the one who made the t2 info to the public so that should tell u who I am. Anyway knowledge is power but I hate when people use it against each other to drop other businesses through price drop. I would love to check out what u know and swap knowledge. Call me 5043429109
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@SB, I ask you again, show me just one Rossman video which you find objectionable. I spent a few hours yesterday watching his YouTube channel and found nothing which was of an industry busting nature. I can see why Crapple hate him, though.
As for learning from this group, by your own admission your aim is that outsiders like me should be prevented from learning anything, so why should you expect me to be grateful to you? Unlike you, I have spent the past 25 years providing free help in numerous technical forums, including data recovery. I have many years of component level electronics experience from a time when technicians were not just mere ROM jockeys and headswap mechanics. I don't wish to take these "secrets" to the grave with me. In fact Scott is welcome to incorporate my electronic tutorials in his technical materials, which are seriously lacking in this regard. (Note to Scott -- there is no such thing as a "TVS resistor".) I believe that Spildit at The HDD Oracle has made a similar offer.
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Scott Moulton
Thank you,
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compos mentis
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Tim Homer - Lead Engineer
Desert Data Recovery
From: datarecovery...@googlegroups.com <datarecovery...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of compos mentis
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:20 PM
To: DataRecoveryCertification <datarecovery...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Macbook Pro Recovery
You want him arrested? And YOU have a copy of HIS laptop? Here in Australia the cops would be knocking on YOUR door, not his.
As for sharing what I know, you still don't seem to understand. All my knowledge is shared publicly. Even the programs which I write (admittedly poorly coded) are provided with full source code. I really have nothing to trade which I wouldn't give away for free.
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