Unidentified issues in CFA AMOS

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Mohini Yadav

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May 10, 2024, 8:39:33 AM5/10/24
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Hi all,

I am getting the following error while imputing values in AMOS - "the model appears to be unidentified. Imputation can not be performed". Can you please help me in fixing this error? I have attached my model and an error message for your convenience.

Regards
Mohini
Research Scholar, DU
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RUCHIKA AGARWAL .

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May 10, 2024, 10:49:50 AM5/10/24
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Hi Mohini,

I think will removing an item in SWHR, you have removed constant 1 also. Try adding constant 1 manually, by double clicking on the SWHR and then assigning weight as 1.

Regards,
Ruchika Agarwal
IIM Bodhgaya

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Mohini Yadav

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May 11, 2024, 9:01:22 AM5/11/24
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Thanks Ruchika for your response. But even after adding the constant 1 in SWHR, the problem remains the same. PFA diagram.

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Neeraj Kaushik

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May 11, 2024, 9:52:26 AM5/11/24
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Dear Mohini
Are you sure that from SWHR, any of the outgoing arrows has the regression weight of 1 
It is not properly visible in the diagram.
Best wishes

priyanka aggarwal

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May 11, 2024, 10:20:57 AM5/11/24
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Dear Neeraj sir, 

My name is Priyanka Aggarwal, I am a research scholar at Jamia Millia Islamia, Delhi. 

As mentioned by you in the recent workshop at Jamia Millia, (please correct me if I am wrong) the CFA Model appears to be wrong here. 

Possible errors:
1. As Ruchika mentioned aptly, the loading was not allotted to any of the items of SWHR.

2. The purpose of conducting CFA is to find the convergent and discriminant validity of the constructs (by assessing the correlation between all the variables, whether IDV or DV). So the researcher here is putting path arrow instead of covariance between TRnCOM, JA, SWHR with CA.

Solution:

1. Allotment of regression weight to one of the item of SWHR by double clicking on the arrow and add ‘1’ as weight.

2. Remove the one sided arrow and instead put double ended arrow.

3. Remove error term ‘e 23’, to run the correlation between all the variables.

Hope this would solve your query.

Best wishes

Priyanka Aggarwal 
Research Scholar 
Department of management studies 
Jamia Millia Islamia



Mohini Yadav

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May 11, 2024, 10:23:23 AM5/11/24
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Yes sir, regression weight of 1 is on SWHR9. The problem got solved when I made all the arrows as double sided (covarience) beween IV and DV as well. 

Best regards
Mohini

Neeraj Kaushik

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May 11, 2024, 10:31:48 AM5/11/24
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Dear Mohini/Priyanka
Double sided arrow may solve the current problem but it is not the proper solution.
Though by making all 2-sided arrows and running a CFA model, this problem will  be solved but the SEM model shd also run smoothly and we shd try to find where exactly the problem lies.
I've explained some of the common errors in this video AMOS-3.1 Colors and Common Errors in AMOS
Unidentification problem comes whenever there is any arrow without a reg wt of 1.

On deep scrutiny of Mohini's model, I could see one arrow from the error term e23 there is no reg wt of 1.
I will request Mohini to plz run the given model by putting reg wt of 1 on the arrow from the e23 and check whether this problem is solved or not?
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Best wishes



Mohini Yadav

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May 11, 2024, 12:39:53 PM5/11/24
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I think I understood my error. Since there is no missing data in the file, data imputation is giving an error. Estimates required under SEM are showing up correctly (using calcuate estimate option). Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards
Mohini

On Sat, May 11, 2024, 9:03 PM Mohini Yadav <mohini....@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear sir, I have added the regression weight 1 to e23 and re-run the model keeping one-sided arrows between IV and DV. There is now a new error coming up. I am attaching screenshots for your reference.

Regards
Mohini

Mohini Yadav

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May 11, 2024, 12:39:53 PM5/11/24
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Dear sir, I have added the regression weight 1 to e23 and re-run the model keeping one-sided arrows between IV and DV. There is now a new error coming up. I am attaching screenshots for your reference.

Regards
Mohini

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priyanka aggarwal

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May 11, 2024, 12:39:53 PM5/11/24
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Dear sir, 

Thank you for your reply. 

Will keep this point also in mind. 

Regards, 
Priyanka Aggarwal 


Hamza Naim

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May 12, 2024, 4:39:30 AM5/12/24
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Dear,

May I know how many responses you got from pilot study??
It's mainly because pilot study questionnaires are upto 10% of all the data, performing EFA and then CFA on the rest 90%.

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Mohini Yadav

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May 12, 2024, 4:45:34 AM5/12/24
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Dear Hamza, the sample I used for CFA was 386.

Hamza Naim

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May 12, 2024, 6:40:01 AM5/12/24
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Dear,

EFA?

Regards
Hamza Naim
Research Scholar
Department of Business Administration
Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh.


Mohini Yadav

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May 12, 2024, 7:10:19 AM5/12/24
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I have not run EFA since the scales are adapted from standardized questionnaires and all of them have good reliability.

Regards



Hamza Naim

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May 12, 2024, 8:36:02 AM5/12/24
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Dear,

EFA for your data! Are you proposing any model? 


Regards
Hamza Naim
Research Scholar
Department of Business Administration
Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh.
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