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I have been thinking about your project here and consider it very important if, by "localness" in your local field theory, you meant something I expressed in a recent Club of Remy discussion as "a local observer observing a limited (thus incomplete) amount of information reaching to imperfect knowledge what's and why's and producing a non-optimized plan of how's for his/her action that sometimes does work but most of the times leading to unintended consequences."
The tongue-twister style of this funny expression is targeting a widespread original sin of academics, i.e., assuming there exists ideal global "truth" that their ivory-tower thinking can eventually nail down, their construction of fancy theories and models that could attain "globality" and thus save the world. My perception of your brief introduction to your local field theory is that you and Shima Beiji might also be chasing the same rabbit that I have been hunting from a different path. If this is correct, let's talk more or arrange a Zoom meeting to chat more about it; then, I would like to join your team to work on this. If this is incorrect, please send me more of your writings on this line so I can find the distinctions.
Many thanks! - Jason
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Jason Jixuan Hu, Ph.D.
Independent Research Scholar
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:22 AM Francis Heylighen <fhey...@vub.ac.be> wrote:
As several CLEA people have already heard us report enthusiastically, Shima and I have made a real breakthrough in our research, which potentially could make us famous :-). Before we start writing the paper, here is already a quick summary, for which we hope to get your feedback...FrancisThe local field theory of subjective experience:a soft solution to the hard problem of consciousnessFrancis Heylighen and Shima BeigiAfter years of study, reflection and discussion, we have recently made a breakthrough in our understanding of consciousness, which we want to report here in an initial short form. This breakthrough in particular proposes a solution to the so-called "hard problem of consciousness", which by some is considered to be the most difficult problem in the whole of science. Our objective is twofold: to demystify consciousness, and to promote a more open-minded way of relating to the world.The question of what constitutes consciousness can be subdivided in two questions:1) the level of consciousness: what distinguishes conscious mental processes (e.g. thinking, observing, acting) from non-conscious ones (e.g. sleep, anesthesia, subliminal perception, subconscious intuitions)2) the content of consciousness: what precisely constitutes a subjective experience (also known as "phenomenal consciousness" or "quale")?
For (1), we assume that a plausible answer is provided by the global neuronal workspace theory of consciousness (Dehaene, Baars, Changeux·), which is supported by a growing amount of empirical evidence. This theory posits that conscious experiences are "broadcasted" across a global, interconnecting network of neurons in the brain, so that they can be examined, monitored and redirected by different more specialized modules in the brain.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cybcom/CA%2BSRckuq6uOPF8mTbfx9RxsfoUUh-zyQsMk7tXbrLJGPcSK16Q%40mail.gmail.com.
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Please let me know what date you would like to do this session ASAP since I'll be sending out our next meeting reminders to CoR members; some of them might be interested in this too.
All best - Jason
Dear Jason,You are correct that our "local field" theory of consciousness is based on the assumption that we can be aware of only a rather narrow range of phenomena, and this in an intrinsically subjective way colored by personal values and feelings.I am even a bit hesitant to use the term "field", since many people inspired by New Age ideas seem to believe that individual, human consciousness is just a part of a global field of consciousness that pervades the cosmos. That, however, is incompatible with the locality principle in physics, which notes that no communication between different parts of the cosmos can go faster than the speed of light.Many people wrongly assume that quantum non-locality has proven otherwise. But quantum entanglement is not sufficient for information transmission: it only allows "correlation", not "communication". That is why quantum mechanics and relativity theory are perfectly compatible. Quantum field theory, being relativistic, makes clear that nothing can travel faster than light. Therefore, a consciousness that would extend from here to the Andromeda galaxy, would need millions of years to grasp that something happened simultaneously here and in Andromeda. Not quite the thinking speed you would expect from a cosmic consciousness ;-)Let's then indeed talk a bit more about this and arrange a zoom with me and Shima...Best,Francis
I have been thinking about your project here and consider it very important if, by "localness" in your local field theory, you meant something I expressed in a recent Club of Remy discussion as "a local observer observing a limited (thus incomplete) amount of information reaching to imperfect knowledge what's and why's and producing a non-optimized plan of how's for his/her action that sometimes does work but most of the times leading to unintended consequences."
The tongue-twister style of this funny expression is targeting a widespread original sin of academics, i.e., assuming there exists ideal global "truth" that their ivory-tower thinking can eventually nail down, their construction of fancy theories and models that could attain "globality" and thus save the world. My perception of your brief introduction to your local field theory is that you and Shima Beiji might also be chasing the same rabbit that I have been hunting from a different path. If this is correct, let's talk more or arrange a Zoom meeting to chat more about it; then, I would like to join your team to work on this. If this is incorrect, please send me more of your writings on this line so I can find the distinctions.Many thanks! - Jason-----------------------------------
Jason Jixuan Hu, Ph.D.Independent Research ScholarOrganizer: Club of REMY: www.clubofremy.orgGeneral Partner: Wintop Group: www.wintopgroup.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJumBT3J15xhAoNs9CnrSVg/videosoffice: j...@wintopgroup.commobile: jasonth...@gmail.com---------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:22 AM Francis Heylighen <fhey...@vub.ac.be> wrote:
As several CLEA people have already heard us report enthusiastically, Shima and I have made a real breakthrough in our research, which potentially could make us famous :-). Before we start writing the paper, here is already a quick summary, for which we hope to get your feedback...FrancisThe local field theory of subjective experience:a soft solution to the hard problem of consciousnessFrancis Heylighen and Shima BeigiAfter years of study, reflection and discussion, we have recently made a breakthrough in our understanding of consciousness, which we want to report here in an initial short form. This breakthrough in particular proposes a solution to the so-called "hard problem of consciousness", which by some is considered to be the most difficult problem in the whole of science. Our objective is twofold: to demystify consciousness, and to promote a more open-minded way of relating to the world.The question of what constitutes consciousness can be subdivided in two questions:1) the level of consciousness: what distinguishes conscious mental processes (e.g. thinking, observing, acting) from non-conscious ones (e.g. sleep, anesthesia, subliminal perception, subconscious intuitions)2) the content of consciousness: what precisely constitutes a subjective experience (also known as "phenomenal consciousness" or "quale")?
For (1), we assume that a plausible answer is provided by the global neuronal workspace theory of consciousness (Dehaene, Baars, Changeux·), which is supported by a growing amount of empirical evidence. This theory posits that conscious experiences are "broadcasted" across a global, interconnecting network of neurons in the brain, so that they can be examined, monitored and redirected by different more specialized modules in the brain.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cybcom/CA%2BSRckuq6uOPF8mTbfx9RxsfoUUh-zyQsMk7tXbrLJGPcSK16Q%40mail.gmail.com.
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Prof. Francis Heylighen
Director Center Leo Apostel, Vrije Universiteit Brussel
https://clea.research.vub.be/en/FrancisHeylighen
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