Another St. George Utah Old Boys Tournament?

[Jeffrey Owens]

Gentlemen,

I'm testing the water here. I've been approached by a few people about this possibility: I have a meeting with the St. George City Parks and Recs Director this week about this tournament and hosting others long-term.

I should get better traction for a dedicated pitch than I had with the Senior Games, since I work with his wife. Here's the proposal:

Annual Old Boys (45+ or 50+) 3-team tourney over 1 – 2 days. We can call it “The Dumsummzabiches Tournament” or something like that.

6 matches total. Highest points wins the tourney. Alternate home field each year between the 3 teams.

Vegas Irish

Colorado CSOBs

St. George Old Boys Something-or-Another

I'm exploring whether we can put together a viable St. George / Cedar City / Mesquite Old Boys team.

Here’s my flyer (gotta love ChatGpt!):

Jeffrey A. Owens

435-703-1033

https://www.askthemediator.com/

[Billy Goodell]

Billy from New Orleans is DEFINITELY IN!!

On Feb 23, 2026, at 5:22 PM, Jeffrey Owens <owensj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gentlemen,

I'm testing the water here. I've been approached by a few people about this possibility: I have a meeting with the St. George City Parks and Recs Director this week about this tournament and hosting others long-term.

I should get better traction for a dedicated pitch than I had with the Senior Games, since I work with his wife. Here's the proposal:

Annual Old Boys (45+ or 50+) 3-team tourney over 1 – 2 days. We can call it “The Dumsummzabiches Tournament” or something like that.

6 matches total. Highest points wins the tourney. Alternate home field each year between the 3 teams.

Vegas Irish

Colorado CSOBs

St. George Old Boys Something-or-Another

I'm exploring whether we can put together a viable St. George / Cedar City / Mesquite Old Boys team.

Here’s my flyer (gotta love ChatGpt!):

Jeffrey A. Owens

435-703-1033

https://www.askthemediator.com/

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[Jeffrey Owens]

I'll keep you posted as this develops.

Cheers!

Jeffrey A. Owens

435-703-1033

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[Billy Goodell]

thanks!!!

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[Patrick Whalen]

I like it Jeff!  Why only 3 teams?

Best, 

Patrick Whalen 

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Subject: Re: [csobrugby] Another St. George Utah Old Boys Tournament?

 

[Jeffrey Owens]

That was just how the conversation started.  The problem is scheduling bigger given the number of larger events nationwide.

Jeffrey A. Owens

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[Jeffrey Owens]

Plus, there’s a rumor circulating that Haggis wants to combine with a team down here on St. George, so probably should include them in this conversation.

Jeffrey A. Owens

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[W K]

Depending on the dates, count me in!

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[Phil Klevorick]

Should base upon even number of teams..4 or 6

Thank you and have a great day!

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[P Ijs]

Hello Jeffrey

These are strictly my personal thoughts

One of the gripes for Aspen Ruggerfest is that we play a game on Thursday and then against the same opponent in the finals on Sunday. People like to play more games, certainly when traveling. 

So a minimum of three game (4 teams) tournament would trigger interest. 

For a 45+/50+ tournament the CSOBs would likely join one of the younger Colorado Old Boys team. Like the Colorado Springs  GODS

The CSOBs would also have an interest inthe older brackets 55/60+
Keep us posted. 

Have a nice day
P Ijs

Have a nice day
P Ijs

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[Jeffrey Owens]

Thanks, Paul.  

I like this feedback. It's very helpful.  I want to create a tourney that's "of the old boys, by the old boys, and for the old boys."  Not to sound cliche.  But, truly, I don't want to be presumptuous so I am open to all ideas to make something you want.  Phil Klevorick said the same thing.  I am due to meet with the city parks and rec guy in an hour.  I'll have a better idea of what we're looking at.

Cheers!

Jeff

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[P Ijs]

Hellp Jeffrey

Have you considered the Golden Oldies colored shorts option? Where special rules count for age gifted player with certain colored shorts. This would make the age brackets a little easier to manage. 

Have a nice day
P Ijs

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[William Gregg]

CSOBs would love to get back to St. George.

Terrific hosts & great location. 

6 teams would be great. All depends on date, etc.

Keep us in the loop.

Cheers. 

Bill Gregg 

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[Billy Goodell]

agreed about Aspen

On Feb 24, 2026, at 12:40 PM, P Ijs <pi56...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Jeffrey

These are strictly my personal thoughts

One of the gripes for Aspen Ruggerfest is that we play a game on Thursday and then against the same opponent in the finals on Sunday. People like to play more games, certainly when traveling. 

So a minimum of three game (4 teams) tournament would trigger interest. 

For a 45+/50+ tournament the CSOBs would likely join one of the younger Colorado Old Boys team. Like the Colorado Springs  GODS

The CSOBs would also have an interest inthe older brackets 55/60+
Keep us posted. 

Have a nice day
P Ijs

Have a nice day
P Ijs

On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 16:22 Jeffrey Owens <owensj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gentlemen,

I'm testing the water here. I've been approached by a few people about this possibility: I have a meeting with the St. George City Parks and Recs Director this week about this tournament and hosting others long-term.

I should get better traction for a dedicated pitch than I had with the Senior Games, since I work with his wife. Here's the proposal:

Annual Old Boys (45+ or 50+) 3-team tourney over 1 – 2 days. We can call it “The Dumsummzabiches Tournament” or something like that.

6 matches total. Highest points wins the tourney. Alternate home field each year between the 3 teams.

Vegas Irish

Colorado CSOBs

St. George Old Boys Something-or-Another

I'm exploring whether we can put together a viable St. George / Cedar City / Mesquite Old Boys team.

Here’s my flyer (gotta love ChatGpt!):

Jeffrey A. Owens

435-703-1033

https://www.askthemediator.com/

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[Jeffrey Owens]

I spoke with Haggis and they can send a motley crew down if we can get this together.  They would want a 40+ tourney as opposed to a 50+ just on their numbers.

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[Timothy Stephens]

One lesson observed from the Huntsman Games is that, if this is supposed to be a social tournament, you need to emphasize that or have a separate bracket for the all-star teams.  We had a great time at Huntsman and played serious competitive matches, but the ORBS, Connecticut, and the Old Breed A-side were a level above the club level that the rest of us were playing.  No one wants to play in a match or watch a match that ends up 70-0.  

 

Tim

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[Jeffrey Owens]

That message was heard loud and clear.  We're looking at a social tournament.  More fun!

Jeffrey A. Owens

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