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Mike,
Thanks for your response. I want to clarify that I’m not in favor of reckless/undocumented Mexican Duck reports - such a program would not improve this gap in data I’m describing. I’m simply saying that in addition to overreporting of MEDU, underreporting (as a result of a lack of observer effort) is perhaps an even greater problem. There will always be Anas ducks that trip us up (the Waneka bird last year is a great example) no matter how well-photographed they are, or how many experienced observers chase them, but such birds will be problematic regardless of season. Conversely, the many well-documented and unimpeachable Mexican Duck records that Colorado possesses should be acceptable as such in June just as much as in January. And similarly, a dubious Mexican Duck in January should not be accepted simply because it is January - Mallard molt timing is variable, and odd plumages can occur at any time of year. I firmly believe that the kind of data gap we see in late summer is fixable - perhaps not to the levels of certainty that we have about MEDU in other times of year, but it is not unimprovable. This improvement, in my opinion, can most strongly begin with observers taking the time to thoroughly check Anas flocks in summer, documenting oddballs, and reporting them - either as MEDU, a hybrid, or as MEDU/MALL (or, perhaps, Anas sp.). If errors are made in identification, they can be corrected, but a lack of effort is not so easy to remedy. If experienced observers can separate MEDU reliably (albeit with care) from odd Mallards, then our goal should be to get birders out there checking duck flocks and learning about the ID, rather than giving up the ghost from the start. Perhaps we’re in total agreement about that, but treating an ID like something that cannot be done, or is reserved for those with decades of experience, is (in my opinion) deeply harmful, both to the Colorado birding community and to the eBird data we’re both striving to improve.
Best,
Owen



