Words per minute excluding repetitions and errors

[Brielle Stark]

Hello!

I understand that the Eval command automatically calculates Words per Minute. I was wondering if this WPM calculation disregards repetitions; I assume it disregards errors. Is there a way that I can specify that I'd like a WPM calculation done without repetitions and errors? 

Thank you in advance,

Brie

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Aphasia Lab: http://web.asph.sc.edu/aphasia/
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[Davida Fromm]

Hi Brie,

The default for the EVAL command is to:

• exclude repetitions
• include target/text replacements -- [: text] 

If that is what you want to do, you are all set. But depending how you transcribed and marked errors in your transcript and what you want to do about errors in your analysis, that may not adequately answer your question about calculating WMP without errors. 

Davida

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[Brielle Stark]

Thank you for the reply! We've coded errors as:

Error [: target if we know it] [* phon]

We'd like to not count targets as we're only concerned with viable and correct word production. Is there a way I can add that to the Eval command? Many thanks.

Brie 

On Mar 8, 2017 20:38, "Davida Fromm" <fr...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

Hi Brie,

The default for the EVAL command is to:

• exclude repetitions
• include target/text replacements -- [: text] 

If that is what you want to do, you are all set. But depending how you transcribed and marked errors in your transcript and what you want to do about errors in your analysis, that may not adequately answer your question about calculating WMP without errors. 

Davida

On Mar 8, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Brielle Stark <briell...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello!

I understand that the Eval command automatically calculates Words per Minute. I was wondering if this WPM calculation disregards repetitions; I assume it disregards errors. Is there a way that I can specify that I'd like a WPM calculation done without repetitions and errors? 

Thank you in advance,

Brie

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Post Doctoral Fellow in Communication Sciences and Disorders, University of South Carolina
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Aphasia Lab: http://web.asph.sc.edu/aphasia/
Center for the Study of Aphasia Recovery: http://web.asph.sc.edu/cstar/

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[Leonid Spektor]

Brie,

    EVAL is designed to count lemmas. lemmas are located on %mor tier which is created by MOR command in advance of running EVAL command. Because of this EVAL itself can not let you to remove any words of your choice from being counted. There is however a way around, but it is not approved way of doing thing. It also depends on how old your version of CLAN is. Because this feature is not approved it has been disabled in recent versions of CLAN. If your CLAN is old enough, then you can try the following MOR command on your data and then run EVAL on the output of MOR command.

mor -s"<* phon>" filename(s).cha

This assumes that you actually have a code "[* phon]" on a speaker tier.

Leonid.

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[Nan Bernstein Ratner]

At the risk of disagreeing with friends, I would ask what your intent is?

We often calculate speech rate by EXCLUDING utterances with any of this extraneous stuff. In other words, we pick target utterances that are disfluency-free (and often limit to a word length limit for the utterances, since length of utterance interacts with speech rate.) We do not include all utterances in our calculations, and in fact, exclude quite a few. We then also calculate disfluent words or behaviors over intended words. These two measures can combine to be very informative.

If you are asking about an effective speech rate, I would (only if it's a monologue) calculate intended words over the total duration to get a rate that basically informs how many intended words a person produced over a given time span. The point about disfluencies is that they leech the transmission of information, making the speaker less effective (for various reasons).

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Nan

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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Davida Fromm <fr...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

Hi Brie,

The default for the EVAL command is to:

• exclude repetitions
• include target/text replacements -- [: text] 

If that is what you want to do, you are all set. But depending how you transcribed and marked errors in your transcript and what you want to do about errors in your analysis, that may not adequately answer your question about calculating WMP without errors. 

Davida

On Mar 8, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Brielle Stark <briell...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello!

I understand that the Eval command automatically calculates Words per Minute. I was wondering if this WPM calculation disregards repetitions; I assume it disregards errors. Is there a way that I can specify that I'd like a WPM calculation done without repetitions and errors? 

Thank you in advance,

Brie

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Brielle Stark, PhD

Post Doctoral Fellow in Communication Sciences and Disorders, University of South Carolina
t: +1 803-777-9240, alternate email: sta...@mailbox.sc.edu

Aphasia Lab: http://web.asph.sc.edu/aphasia/
Center for the Study of Aphasia Recovery: http://web.asph.sc.edu/cstar/

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[Brielle Stark]

Thanks all. The intent is to transcribe speech from people with chronic aphasia, who make both semantic and sound errors, and to discount any semantic and sound errors and only count as correct words that were correctly semantically related and also correctly pronounced. This is why I do not want to count the [: target] if it is followed by an error [* s:r] or [* phon] for example.

Best,

Brie

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