Is it possible to alter the definitions of EXPAN and REDUC in CHIP?

[rose maier]

Hello,

I am running CHIP, and I want to allow substitutions within word classes. I am able to track substitutions with the +g and +h options, and it's easy enough to add the SUBST count to the EXACT count to get a total measure of exact repetitions allowing for substitutions. I would like to be able to do a similar thing with expansions and reductions (e.g. get a total count of expansions, including those involving substitutions), but it's not clear to me whether that's possible. Is it possible to alter the definitions for EXPAN and REDUC to count pairs that include substitutions? 

I have another unrelated question: Is it possible to use CHIP to just add the CHIP tiers (%chi, %adu, etc.) to the original CHAT files, rather than creating separate files with only the CHIP tiers? I'd love to have one file that included both the CHIP tiers and the other standard tiers (%mor, etc.). Alternatively, is it possible to ask CHIP to preserve the other tiers when creating the CHIP output files?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Rose Maier

Doctoral Student

University of Oregon

[Brian MacWhinney]

On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, rose maier <rosie...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am running CHIP, and I want to allow substitutions within word classes. I am able to track substitutions with the +g and +h options, and it's easy enough to add the SUBST count to the EXACT count to get a total measure of exact repetitions allowing for substitutions. I would like to be able to do a similar thing with expansions and reductions (e.g. get a total count of expansions, including those involving substitutions), but it's not clear to me whether that's possible. Is it possible to alter the definitions for EXPAN and REDUC to count pairs that include substitutions? 

This is a question for Leonid.  

I have another unrelated question: Is it possible to use CHIP to just add the CHIP tiers (%chi, %adu, etc.) to the original CHAT files, rather than creating separate files with only the CHIP tiers? I'd love to have one file that included both the CHIP tiers and the other standard tiers (%mor, etc.). Alternatively, is it possible to ask CHIP to preserve the other tiers when creating the CHIP output files?

This command should do that

chip +bMOT +cCHI  +f +d +t%mor +t@ chip.cha

I used it on the chip.cha file in the examples folder and it worked.

--Brian

Thanks in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Rose Maier

Doctoral Student

University of Oregon

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[rose maier]

Dear Brian,

Thank you! That works perfectly. 

Regarding my other question (altering the definitions of EXPAN and REDUC to include pairs with substitutions), I downloaded the Unix source code, and I can see exactly where I would want to change it to run my desired analyses. Unfortunately, I'm not quite savvy enough to be able to implement the changes myself - I can edit the script to reflect the definitions that I want for EXPAN and REDUC, but I'm not sure how to compile it so CLAN will read it properly when I run CHIP from the command window.

Thanks again for your help, Brian.

Sincerely,

Rose Maier

Rose Maier

Doctoral Student

Department of Psychology

University of Oregon

Office: Straub 493

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[Leonid Spektor]

Rose,

I will need to talk to Brian MacWhinney about SUBST with EXPAN and REDUC codes feature before I can give you any answer. I'll be post another message once we sort it all out over here.

Leonid.

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