DSS and KIDEVAL

[Amy Wilder]

Hello,

I have two questions about the DSS scores that are included in the KIDEVAL normative database.

1- Do you have normative data for the individual DSS scores (Indefinite Pronouns, Personal Pronouns, etc)? The KIDEVAL output with the database comparison only gives me the DSS total score.

2- In the CLAN manual it states:

"Warning: MOR cannot distinguish between non-complementing infinitive structures, such as I stopped to play, which receives 3 points as secondary verb and infinitival complement structures, such as I had to go, which receive 5 points as secondary verbs. When the latter occurs, you must edit the output table to assign two more points."

Was this adjustment made for all of the samples included in the KIDEVAL database?

Thank you for your help!

Best,

Amy Wilder

[Leonid Spektor]

Amy,

1. KIDEVAL only reports the total score. If you want to see individual DSS scores you need to run DSS command instead of KIDEVAL.

2. This question is better answered by someone else who is more familiar with DSS rules used to compute DSS scores. I am sure that person will answer this question soon.

Leonid.

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[Nan Bernstein Ratner]

The answer to the first question is not yet. We are working to do this as we have just done for IPSyn (Yang et al. 2021)

The answer to the second is that currently this adjustment must be made to the individual DSS chart for the child, which is run using the DSS command outside of KIDEVAL.  Happy to chat with you about this. Best regards,  Nan. 

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[Amy Wilder]

Hi Leonid and Nan, 

Thank you for the quick responses! I really appreciate your help.

I have a follow-up question for Nan,

I am working on a research project and planning to compare my data to the KIDEVAL normative data. I would like to make sure I am scoring my DSS samples the same way that the KIDEVAL samples were scored. So, I was wondering if the DSS scores for the samples in the KIDEVAL database were all individually adjusted for complementing infinitive clauses. If they were, I will plan on adjusting the scores for my samples; if not, I will leave my scores unadjusted. Let me know, and thank you again for your help.

Best,

Amy Wilder