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Gretchen Ehlers
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I am going to agree on this too. Why would the senate worry about whether a senate appointee was a union member? The union has every right to take that into consideration, but the senate is, as has been said, representing and answering to all faculty. If the senate starts excluding people for union reasons, then it is no longer fulfilling its role for all faculty. I would really recommend thinking twice about this.
David
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Date: Monday, February 15, 2021 at 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Google Group CCCSenates] considering union membership in senate committee appointments? (senate-union relationship)
I fully agree with Mike's opinion. The Senate is appointing faculty on behalf of the Senate ONLY, and union membership shouldn't be a consideration. I would also be concerned that, if the Board of Trustees and administration start seeing the Senate and Union acting as one, the Senate may start to lose some of its independent power in the eyes of the BoT and administration.
Gretchen Ehlers
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Hello Andrew. It is absolutely true that a strong relationship between the senate and the union is important and that the organizations need to respect each other. However, the two organizations are still separate, and cooperating does not means getting involved in each other’s issues in cases when the purview of those organizations does not overlap. If a person resigns from the union, then the union may no longer represent that person, but the academic senate still does. One of the most important and powerful claims of a senate, even in districts with separate unions for part-time and full-time faculty, is that the senate represents all faculty. Faculty do not have a choice in that—they can’t resign from the senate’s representation because the senate represents them legally, whether they like it or not—but neither does the senate. Some administrators—certainly not all, I hope not most, but some—will take any opportunity to divide faculty and take advantage of it. We should be resisting that division, not playing into it. This is obviously your senate and your college, so what you do is your decision. But you asked for input, and I would recommend that the senate do what it can to promote unity of all faculty and let the union worry about union membership.
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On Feb 15, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Martin Hittelman <mart...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thank you, Michelle.
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Some background: at my district, academic senate and union appointments to certain committees (e.g. management hiring committee, AP 7122,https://web.peralta.edu/trustees/files/2013/12/AP-7122-Hiring-Procedures-for-Regular-Academic-Administrators-and-Classified-Managers2.pdf) are written into our BP/APs. The usual arrangement is 1 academic senate appointment, 1 union appointment, and 1 joint appointment.
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