Any book on Charvaka Darshanam with commentary?

[V Subrahmanian]

Namaste

I am looking for viewing/downloading any standard book in Sanskrit on the Charvaka darshanam enumerating the sutras/statements/shlokas with an authoritative commentary/bhashya.  I found a few English translations/books on the internet but the original book on this darshanam is evading my search. Any help in this quest is appreciated.

Thanks and regards

subrahmanian.v

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Tattvopaplavasimha of Sri Jayarasi Bhatta with English Translation -The text is often regarded as belonging to the Carvaka school, which would make it the only extant authentic text from that school. The Tattvopaplavasimha examines epistemology, where he considers the pramana (sources of knowledge) accepted in establishing conclusions (perception, inference, and testimony), and proves that none of them are sufficient for establishing knowledge. Inference relies on inductive reasoning which cannot be shown to be universal premises. Testimony requires the reliability of the witness, which must be established by another of the pramana. Even direct perception cannot establish truth, because it requires that the perception not be erroneous or illusory, which also cannot be established. Therefore, Jayarasi argues that none of the sources of knowledge are valid, and nothing can be known for certain. Jayarasi challenged the astika establishment's belief in supernatural beings by attacking their epistemology with different arguments in Vaitandika style. Jayarasi has elaborated the different technical terminologies of philosophy used by the philosophers of that period while he establishes his own doctrines. Prof. V. N. Jha, a renowned scholar of Nyaya, Mimamsa and Vyakarana has translated it in to English on the basis of Baudhabharati, Varanasi edition, 1987 by Pt. Sukhlalji Sanghavi and Rasiklal Parikhji. It has been translated keeping silence in the place of broken Sanskrit texts in several places. This book consists of an introduction detailed analysis edition and English translation with extensive notes of the complete text and indices of all technical words used in the text.

Translator

Prof. V. N. Jha

https://www.chinfo.org/index.php/shodha-sansthan/chinmaya-research-series  

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. 

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Ramakrishna Bhattacharya does not consider Tattvopaplavasimha as a Charvaka text. 

https://www.academia.edu/33505827/Review_of_P._P._Gokhales_Lokayata_Carvaka  

[Madhav Deshpande]

Dear Shri Subrahmanian,

Professor Ramkrishna Bhattacharya has written numerous articles on the history of Cārvāka Darśana and its various texts.  I have many of those, and I will be happy to share them with you.  Please write to me a personal mail.

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus

Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan

[Residence: Campbell, California]

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[Veeranarayana Pandurangi]

Recently one ramkrishna bhattacharya joined Bvp list.

I hope he is the same mentioned here. We can hope to get benefitted by his presence

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[V Subrahmanian]

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 12:10 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu> wrote:

Dear Shri Subrahmanian,

Professor Ramkrishna Bhattacharya has written numerous articles on the history of Cārvāka Darśana and its various texts.  I have many of those, and I will be happy to share them with you.  Please write to me a personal mail.

Many thanks Sir, I am curious about this particular verse that has been cited by the Sarvadarshana sangraha of Sayanamadhava 14th Century CE in the section for Charvaka darshanam:

The above author calls it an 'AbhANaka', a popular saying that existed in his times.

The commentary to this by Vidwan Sri Vasudeva Shastry Abhayankar, a more recent venerable author, is:

The above verse is also cited by Krishna Misra (12th Century CE) in his Prabodhachandrodaya.

This verse is found in the collection of Subhashitas too. 

I would like to know what the original, ancient, Charvaka darshana and its commentary says about the above cited verse, if any.  If there is any information about this verse/commentary in your papers/collection, I request you to kindly share the same here. If you know of any text predating the above, that cites this verse, please share the same.

warm regards

subrahmanian.v   

[V Subrahmanian]

Thank you Sri Paturi ji, for the reference to that particular text. If it is accessible, I would like to study the same for the particular aspects that I am now looking for.

warm regards

subrahmanian.v

[Ramkrishna Bhattacharya]

It is well known to every student of the philosophies in India that NOT a single work of the Carvaka/Lokayata - neither any base text nor any commentary (although there were  several)  -  is yet come down to us. Dakshinaranjan Shastri's Charvaka-shashti is an eclectic collection of sutras, verses, etc. drawn from both Carvaka and non-Carvaka sources alike. Jayarasibhatta's Tattvopaplavasimha is not a Carvakra work, despite the claim made by some, and opposed by others. Chowkhamba is known to have compiled a collection of Barhaspatya-sutras sometime in the last century but never reprinted it, as far as my knowledge goes.There may be one or two such books in the south Indian languages.

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[Dilipkumar Mohanta]

My book Studies in Jayarasi bhatta's Critique of Knowing from Words Sabdapramanakhandana by Jayarasi with text with Engligh translation and Elucidation b published by Asiatic Society Kolkata 2009. One may see Ram Krishna Bhattacharya's Studies on the Carvaka /  Lokayata, Manohar Publishers, Delhi 2010 . Reconstructed Carvakasutra with different Commentary.

Regards

Dilipkumar Mohanta

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[Hemant Dave]

The text was also translated by Prof. Esther Solomon and published, along with the text, posthumously by Parimal Publication in 2010.

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[V Subrahmanian]

After getting many responses, it becomes clear to me that there are only 'reconstructed' versions of Charvaka darshana today. Here is one, with a Hindi commentary/explanation:   

Charvak Darshan (Dharm Ke Dhande Ki Pol Ka Darshan): Hindi Indology

By Dr. Surendra Kumar Sharma 'Ajnat' 

It contains the 'shaShThi' selection too.

regards

subrahmanian.v

 

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[ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli]

It is worth pondering how formally debated cArvAka was in known history vs how much its practice was prevalent when its literary criticism happened.

For a contemporary example, how much is communism actually an academically argued model for its merit? Its establishment happened more with muscle, then loyalists bought for controlling academic space. Even while it goes down there is very little academic/scholarly refutation of its tenets.

Similarly cArvAka, while some of the available texts might be telling about it, it is unlikely we are going to be able to find its hypothesis by its proponents not just now but most probably even back then.

Shankar

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[V Subrahmanian]

Namaste

From the inputs obtained from various sources, a very short selection from the Barhaspatya Sutram collection is prepared by me. (please see the attached file)

This short selection highlights some of the vedic/religious practices that prevailed in the very ancient times.

Om Tat Sat

Subrahmanian.v

[Sampath Kumar]

Tattvopaplava Simha, in sanskrit by Jayaraasi

www.jaimini.org Good Luck SK { सॊऽहं हंसः परमहंसः సోsహం హంసః పరమహంసః}

 

            

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[Ramkrishna Bhattacharya]

Dear all,

Don't despair, my colleagues. One fine morning another Rahula Sankrityayana may discover the base text of the Carvakas and hopefully the commentaries thereon from a monastery in Tibet. Just think of my late lamented friend, Naginbhai's discovery of the Nyayamanjari-Granthibhanga from a Jain mss library. Let everybody be on the lookout in all the continents. It may turn out to be a chance discovery even.

Yours optimistically,

Ramkrishna Bhattacharya

D

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[M V S SIVA PRASAD]

Sir,
Please refer the following links . They may help you.
Link 1 : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/42510.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwizzeC4k97iAhUJQH0KHUI3CIYQFjAFegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3p7HOWnLvcTAFnj1u4G6DK&cshid=1560143522200

Link 2 :https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.in/Charvak-Darshan-Dharm-Dhande-Pol/dp/9350652331&ved=2ahUKEwizzeC4k97iAhUJQH0KHUI3CIYQjjgwBHoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0n0j5lp6YGBhoDkR-1EPOv&cshid=1560143522200

Thank you.

[V Subrahmanian]

Many thanks for the links to these interesting books. 

warm regards

subrahmanian.v 

 Thank you.

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[kamalesh pathak]

Yet we have to accept that chArvAka view is also accepted by open hearted Aryan system of philosophy 

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