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Annual revenue from bicycle registration is around $450,000
Couldn’t get the bicycle auction info yet.
Yamato Milner
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Forgot to mention, I have contacted HPD, Sergeant Valoroso (District 1) to see if he can attend the MACB meeting. If you have another HPD contact, please let me know.
Yamato Milner
Forgot to mention, I have contacted HPD, Sergeant Valoroso (District 1) to see if he can attend the MACB meeting. If you have another HPD contact, please let me know.
Yamato Milner
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Annual revenue from bicycle registration is around $450,000
Couldn’t get the bicycle auction info yet.
Yamato Milner
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On Apr 7, 2015 4:55 PM, "Milner, Yamato" <ymi...@honolulu.gov> wrote:
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How can that be correct? Is that for the whole state or just Honolulu? If 30,000 bikes are registered every year. . . Shouldn't there be a lot more around? Is it including the mopeds? Hope I'm not missing something obvious!
In trying to find per capita bike and car rates, the following came up:
(Nov. 2014) AS THE NATION TURNS, HAWAII IS STILL
DRIVEN
Across America, people are driving a lot less in their cars, but vehicle miles are way up in Hawaii. We ask why and check out
what’s happening with the alternatives to sitting in traffic, including walking, riding bikes and buses, and sharing a ride.
http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/as-the-nation-turns-hawaii-is-still-driven/
In thinking about this question-- a few things came up--
Hawaii vehicles nearly match state population
suggests there are only 9,000 or less motor vehicle registrations per year.
So someone's made a mistake? is it possible so many motor vehicles are sold, but not registered? Perhaps 41,000 of the vehicles that are sold are replacing a vehicle that gets recycled and the other registrations are transferred.
But, with respect to bicycles, something unique to Hawaii's situation could be that many many bicycles are bought by transient residents (tourists, college students, snowbirds, etc) and later abandoned or sold.
Low-income/outdoor dwelling/homeless people could be collecting many of these, many of which could then be impounded by the police.
So, are in fact about 30,000 bicycles impounded by the police every year?
Or are all those bikes just mouldering in people's garages?
If that is what happens--
it might not be a good idea to mandate bike registration (even with bikeindex.org) at time of sale.
If only people who are motivated to register their bike do so then that may maintain the usefulness of the bikeindex system.
If a lot of serial numbers get registered with bike index and then those bikes get abandoned. . . it may not be possible to re-register those bikes later?
Who knows...
Thanks for all the links Soha, by the way, I've got a lot of reading to do. And thanks for managing the police end of things. We probably should have subscribed Anthony to this email list a long time ago-- that could have kept him in the loop...
I suppose we should try to inform possible attendees ahead of time about the proposal, what ever we end up with, so they have time to think about it.
Colin
The figure is just for bicycles registered within a year in the City and County of Honolulu (entire island of Oahu). It does not include mopeds or bicycles on other islands. Majority of these registrations occur at the point of sale (at the shop).
The figure shouldn’t be used to determine how many bicyclists are riding on our roadways. Just because someone purchases a bicycle does not mean they ride it, a person can register multiple bicycles yet can only ride one at a time, and some may purchase a bike and ride outside of Oahu.
According to the American Community Survey Report (2008 – 2012), urban Honolulu (census designated place) is 15th in the nation with 1.8% of commuters biking to work. With roughly 340,000 residents, it’s an estimated 6,120 commuting bicyclists.
Yamato Milner
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The figure is just for bicycles registered within a year in the City and County of Honolulu (entire island ofOahu). It does not include mopeds or bicycles on other islands. Majority of these registrations occur at the point of sale (at the shop).
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