Re: Stop Dual N back Training and alike. Proof that Cognitive Load is The Same Just From Studying

[quint-t]

ChatGPT predicts the most likely next word or phrase based on the context of the conversation and its vast database of language patterns and associations.

Ask ChatGPT if this is true, and it will answer you "yes".

ChatGPT responses should always be checked. In your case, links to research are needed. Otherwise, it's just generated text.

[ФІ-14 Богдан Мишинкин]

don't believe gpt lies

Le mer. 5 juil. 2023 à 09:32, Claudiu Ciprian <cipic...@gmail.com> a écrit :

I asked chatgpt to estimate cognitive load on different brain regions for a person that has iq of 100, for few cognitive activities. 

Conclusion ... the same cognitive load you get from dual n back, triple math n back, etc n back, can be achieved from studying topics that matter and which bring added value to your life.

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[Pontus Granström]

Chatgpt is just a statistical bullshitter....

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[BonBonDampling]

Did ChatGPT do the research and conduct studies? This is so cool and scary how AI making such a progress nowadays.
I wonder what next it will do

среда, 5 июля 2023 г. в 22:23:31 UTC+5, Pontus Granström:

[Lucas Campagnaro]

You can't make that equivalence. The level of knowledge ChatGPT would need to make that kind of comparison is far deeper than it needs to be able to answer a medical school test.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 14:27 Claudiu Ciprian <cipic...@gmail.com> wrote:

so, all that chatgpt is lying ? don't think so.

he was evaluated by a medicine university who asked it questions the same way a medicine student would be asked on exam to become a doctor. he answered 70% of the questions corectly. a real world student would pass the exam in this condition.

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[Pontus Granström]

Chatgpt is so overhyped. Its finding statistical patterns its no where near replacing a human mind. Not even for the most mundane of tasks.

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[ФІ-14 Богдан Мишинкин]

So why are there no studies proving how memorizing words from an encyclopedia increases IQ? As a person who uses GPT-4 every day, I can say that the closer it gets to exact sciences, the more mistakes it makes.

Le mer. 5 juil. 2023 à 09:32, Claudiu Ciprian <cipic...@gmail.com> a écrit :

I asked chatgpt to estimate cognitive load on different brain regions for a person that has iq of 100, for few cognitive activities. 

Conclusion ... the same cognitive load you get from dual n back, triple math n back, etc n back, can be achieved from studying topics that matter and which bring added value to your life.

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[Pontus Granström]

Not surprisingly, they have provided no proof whatsoever - just tells people to be scared of losing their jobs due to this parrot :) It's very much like the climate debate, the nuances and more "deep analysis" is lacking and now we have to start to believe in AI.

Almost like a religion tbh.

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[infogr...@free.fr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tWoPk25yU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.atnl.fr%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axuGfh4UR9Q&t=9871s

Le mercredi 5 juillet 2023 à 10:40:52 UTC+2, Claudiu Ciprian a écrit :

I asked chatgpt to estimate cognitive load on different brain regions for a person that has iq of 100, for few cognitive activities.
Conclusion ... the same cognitive load you get from dual n back, triple math n back, etc n back, can be achieved from studying topics that matter and which bring added value to your life.

In the big table the cognitive load for different study subjects and brain workshop games, is for 1 hour to 2 hours

If you have any questions, please do ... 

[Bo T]

I don't see how general cognitive load is the only relevant factor. You can overload your cognition by any number of activities, but will those activities target and change the brain regions responsible for the abilities you want to improve? For example, relational brain training has been shown to increase the IQs of developing children while general education failed to do so even though mathematics is more cognitively demanding than relational brain training. 

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[David Wood]

More than likely n-back is limited in its ability to expand IQ as everyone seems to get stuck at certain n-back levels.  For overall value to the growth of intelligence, reading is far more useful than any of this over a sustained period of time.  Go read 3-6 hours per day for 10 years and that will change your life.  I'm not sure if dual-n-back will change your life in any way of significance, but it will make you slightly smarter.

[Wilma Skillma]

It is always amusing seeing people find any excuse possible to stop their n back training. Go ahead and study wikipedia pages while I do nback. Let's see who had more to show in 5 years.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 19:27 Claudiu Ciprian <cipic...@gmail.com> wrote:

so, all that chatgpt is lying ? don't think so.

he was evaluated by a medicine university who asked it questions the same way a medicine student would be asked on exam to become a doctor. he answered 70% of the questions corectly. a real world student would pass the exam in this condition.

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 7:29:13 PM UTC+3 quint-t wrote:

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[Lesk]

Wilma Skillma:

> Go ahead and study wikipedia pages while I do nback. Let's see who had more to show in 5 years.

Competitive mode is not bad. We could start this competition to increase our intelligence and eventually show each other who is right and who is a loser.

Come on, lazy ass, show me what you're capable of. Or do you only know how to scribble?

Come on. You will be crushed by my intelligence when you get even a little closer to it.

I achieve everything I want. But it looks like you need to be reborn to achieve something worthwhile.

пятница, 13 октября 2023 г. в 19:12:11 UTC+3, Wilma Skillma: