Pi.BerkeleyLUG: Next meeting this Sunday 2021-05-16. Hybrid meeting!!!

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tom r lopes

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May 14, 2021, 1:41:56 AM5/14/21
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Going to try Virtual + in person.  
From what I hear Rick's Cabal went pretty good, So I am going to try.  
Work in progress -- 

Sunday 2021-05-16   starting at 11am til ? 

Virtual part is Jitsi as before:  

tom is inviting you to a meeting.

Join the meeting:
https://meet.jit.si/Pi.BerkeleyLUG

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In Person:  

Caffe Strada 
2300 College Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704 

This is an outdoor cafe right across from the Berkeley Campus.  
Seating seems OK but table space is very limited.  And many outlets though.  

Security may be a problem as we will be right next to the road.  
Be extremely vigilant with your possessions!!  

I would expect that in person attendees be vacinated.    

Hope to see you there, 

Thomas

Rick Moen

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May 14, 2021, 2:04:27 AM5/14/21
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Quoting tom r lopes (tomr...@gmail.com):

> Going to try Virtual + in person.
> From what I hear Rick's Cabal went pretty good, So I am going to try.

In case it will help, here's what we did:


The in-person part of CABAL, as in Before Times, was 98% in my back
patio, mostly gathered around one table. So, I placed my laptop on a
different, nearby table -- so that people in the backyard could saunter
over and interact with the Jitsi Meet room if they wished, but the
online conference would not be overwhelmed with hubbub from the
backyard. The laptop was running the Electron-based Jitsi Meet client
program (but Chromium or some other Web browser would have also been
fine). Attached to the laptop were:

o Pair of Yamaha YST-M7 external computer speakers.
These are probably well over 20 years old, but really good.
o Cmteck CM-G006 USB condensor microphone.
CABAL co-founder Duncan MacKinnon had this sent, having picked
it out for its excellent noise-cancellation

The microphone did a stellar job. The pair of Yamaha speakers _would_
have done a stellar job, but I discovered that the 3.5mm mini-jack
audio patch cable connecting the speakers to the laptop has developed
a wiring fault. (But hey, it's given over 20 years of excellent
service, so I'm giving it a Viking funeral and getting a new cable.)


> I would expect that in person attendees be vacinated.

What I said to prospective CABAL attendees (in the meeting
announcement):


---<begin>---

WHO MAY ATTEND? You must:

o Be COVID-19 vaccinated, plus enough time for ramped-up immunity.
o Feel it's safe to be here in company.
o Agree this is at your own risk.

Bring your CDC card: Assume I may check.

---<end>---


I did _not_ check, but the point was to set expectations that I might,
so as to put any "rules apply to everyone but me" people on notice.

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Rick Moen

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May 14, 2021, 11:18:03 PM5/14/21
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Quoting tom r lopes (tomr...@gmail.com):

> Going to try Virtual + in person.
> From what I hear Rick's Cabal went pretty good, So I am going to try.

Further random thoughts -- with the disclaimer that everyone is going to
have to figure out what works and what doesn't:

Tom, it's really promising to invite some folks to join you in-person at
Caffe Strada and collectively interact with the remote folks on Jitsi
Meet. It being an outdoor cafe of course definitely helps. Having
not been there specifically, I'm picturing, y'know, a half-dozen or more
tables out on the sidewalk. You'd be at one of those tables with, hmm,
an RPi? or a smartphone? talking to Jitsi Meet via cafe WiFi (ideally).

So, probably, assuming people join you there, you might have three or
four of you on one side of the table, looking at the screen, listening,
and talking.

That's cool, so I'm trying to anticipate what the rough points might be.
As mentioned, in CABAL's case, the Achilles Heel was a failing 3.5mm
audio stereo patch cord. Damn. Replacement is on its way, so next time
local attendees' ability to hear the online people will be way better.
In your case on Sunday, you may have an ambient noise problem, and
also the problem of the mic being too far away from most of the people
at the table, at any given time.

CABAL (or actually CABAL co-founder Duncan MacKinnon) anticipated this
problem and had drop-shipped here a nice, cheap, external mic on a
flexible neck and stand -- that also has good built-in ambient noise
rejection. That part worked _great_. The screen was my regular
Macintoy laptop, so reasonable-sized for a small crowd.

The external speakers were intended to overcome the usual problem of
tinny little laptop-internal speakers. And but for the failing cable,
probably would have.

The setup was small enough that it could have been shlepped to a
Berkeley cafe and put on a small outdoor table -- provided there was AC
(because the Yamaha speakers need an AC feed).

Best of fortune with the hybrid effort.

tom r lopes

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May 15, 2021, 7:03:20 PM5/15/21
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Yes I have the CABAL approved microphone.  You gave the model number last 
week and it was cheap enough.  I have sort of tested it and I think it will work.  
(repeating  "test" while recording and spinning the microphone.  There is about 
a 25 - 50% drop when behind the microphone.)  
I ordered a dedicated USB video conferencing set but won't arrive til Monday.  
It is kinda like a cyclops eye on a stalk.  I'll test next week and maybe bring it 
to the regular Berkeley meeting.  (makes me think of this: 
they have two eyes)  

Thomas

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Michael Paoli

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May 16, 2021, 9:17:12 PM5/16/21
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And yes, today's meeting.
We had folks from beyond the city limits of Berkeley.ca.us.,
beyond the county of Alameda,
beyond the state of California,
and yes, beyond the US.!
... though we still had a majority from within Berkeley,
and even the majority of those in Berkeley at physical meeting!

Many things discussed/shared/shown ... but as a slight teaser ...
here are some select bit I snagged from the "Chat" within Jitsi Meet ...
plus a few or so additionally added and/or sprinkled in:
BCLUG ... not Bucks County Linux Users Group,
nor Bethel College Linux Users Group,
but BCLUG.CA British Columbia LUG!
https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:covid-19
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/meetup.html
https://framatalk.org/accueil/en/info
https://www.balug.org/myip
https://www.ipv6.balug.org/myip
https://www.ipv4.balug.org/myip
https://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/2340.png
sipcalc(1)
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Network_Other/netmasks.html
https://latenightlinux.com/
http://www.mpaoli.net/~michael/bin/upcoming_meetings
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.denic.de/fileadmin/public/documentation/DENIC-23p_EN.pdf
https://kfocus.org/
http://www.dnscheck.pro/
https://dnsviz.net/
https://zonemaster.net/
https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec
https://ipv6.he.net/certification/

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