AI & bees

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Graham Pyke

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Nov 10, 2025, 7:58:11 PM (12 days ago) Nov 10
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Here’s a strange article re AI & bees, which has just appeared in Sustainability Matters. No author given. No link provided to ‘report’ or ‘study’ . Strange argument which seems to be that AI will require lots of energy, leading to further global warming, which would be bad news for bees. The Centre for AI, Trust & Governance at USyd is located in the Faculty of Arts & Social Sciences with no apparent focus on bees or biology. Similarly, the background of Dr Rob Nicholls, also at USyd, is interesting, but has no apparent connection with bees.

 

I don’t understand!

 

Can anyone help?

 

Graham

 

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Anonymous 2025 Sustainability Matters - 10 Nov 25 - Impacts of AI on bees.docx

Douglas Yanega

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Nov 10, 2025, 8:13:48 PM (12 days ago) Nov 10
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On 11/10/25 4:57 PM, Graham Pyke wrote:

Here’s a strange article re AI & bees, which has just appeared in Sustainability Matters. No author given. No link provided to ‘report’ or ‘study’ . Strange argument which seems to be that AI will require lots of energy, leading to further global warming, which would be bad news for bees. The Centre for AI, Trust & Governance at USyd is located in the Faculty of Arts & Social Sciences with no apparent focus on bees or biology. Similarly, the background of Dr Rob Nicholls, also at USyd, is interesting, but has no apparent connection with bees.

 

I don’t understand!


Briefly, it's one of the main arguments that opponents of AI use as a basis for opposition. Only supercomputers can run these massively interactive AI services; supercomputers take massive amounts of energy and also give off massive amounts of heat.

That much is clear.

What isn't clear is how MUCH extra heat this amounts to. It's a real phenomenon, but people are likely to be arguing about how much impact it has until we're all dead. Estimates run from 2% of global electricity consumption to "the ice caps will melt by next Tuesday". Reality is likely to be somewhere in between. As far as I can see, the negative impact models all assume that we will power all of our supercomputers with fossil fuels exclusively. If that isn't true, the worst-case scenarios shouldn't come into play. But, the way things look, fossil fuels and the people who profit from them are not giving up without a fight, and it could get even uglier than it is now.

TLDR: it's fossil fuels that are the bad guy in global warming, not AI in and of itself.

Peace,

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Flatbush Gardener

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Nov 10, 2025, 8:14:02 PM (12 days ago) Nov 10
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Sounds like it was generated by an LLM.

Chris Kreussling (Flatbush Gardener)

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