BBONE-AI - Operating Temp Min & Max

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M S, Siddeshappa

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Oct 10, 2019, 9:29:57 AM10/10/19
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Hi Team,

 

Please see the below issue one of customer asking for the operating Temperature Min & Max if available for BBONE-AI Board.

 


Customer Issue – ‘Hello Team, customer cannot find Operating Temperature Min and Max - please, could you provide Thank you so much for your help Peter’

 

 

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Robert Nelson

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Oct 10, 2019, 10:45:22 AM10/10/19
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 8:29 AM M S, Siddeshappa <S...@element14.com> wrote:

Hi Team,

 

Please see the below issue one of customer asking for the operating Temperature Min & Max if available for BBONE-AI Board.

 


Customer Issue – ‘Hello Team, customer cannot find Operating Temperature Min and Max - please, could you provide Thank you so much for your help Peter’

 


It's kinda funny you don't have that information.. As your company manufactures the board. ;)

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jonnymo

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Oct 10, 2019, 11:11:44 AM10/10/19
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Robert, 

Interesting.  There has been a ton of discussion regarding the heating issue with the BB AI on the Element14 forums, however, in the end, the BeagleBoard forum seems to be the location that is referenced for the final say and info regarding this.  If Avent build the board, then they should provide this information.   Thanks for the clarification.

I've added the X-15 fan kit to my BB AI as is stated in the SRM and it seems to stay around 40C during normal use.

Jon

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Robert Nelson

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Oct 10, 2019, 11:17:20 AM10/10/19
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:11 AM jonnymo <jonn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Robert,
>
> Interesting. There has been a ton of discussion regarding the heating issue with the BB AI on the Element14 forums, however, in the end, the BeagleBoard forum seems to be the location that is referenced for the final say and info regarding this. If Avent build the board, then they should provide this information. Thanks for the clarification.

So Jason's been working on cpu setting:
https://github.com/beagleboard/BeagleBoard-DeviceTrees/commits/v4.14.x-ti

Usually when users ask for the "Operating Temp Min & Max" values,
someone has to go dig thru all the components used on the board.. That
hasn't been done..

> I've added the X-15 fan kit to my BB AI as is stated in the SRM and it seems to stay around 40C during normal use.

That one will work, it's noisy, i'm using a desk fan.. There is a 'fan
cape' coming..

jonnymo

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Oct 10, 2019, 11:48:18 AM10/10/19
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Thanks for the update. 

Yeah, I seen that Cape in a Jason vid and will be grabbing one when available.  There is someone on the element14 forums creating their own Fan cape as well.

Cheers,

Jon

William Hermans

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Oct 11, 2019, 11:15:47 AM10/11/19
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I've just got my AI sitting in front of a 20" box fan(on low) I have running 24/7 anyhow

debian@beaglebone:~$ uptime
 15:13:17 up 12 days,  9:30,  3 users,  load average: 0.23, 0.15, 0.10
debian@beaglebone:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/temp
53400
53800
54600
53000
53800
Anyway, not sure what all the talk is about. It states plain as day on the beaglebone.org "product" page that the board is prone to run hot . . .
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Oct 15, 2019, 5:45:12 PM10/15/19
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Please! Disable the GPU and any other graphics accelerators if you are not using the board with a display. The GPU, IVA, and HDMI are not needed for any machine learning use. Disabling any cores you're not using will help temperatures greatly.

jonnymo

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Oct 15, 2019, 7:57:42 PM10/15/19
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Isn't the purpose of OpenCL is to handle the parallel processing between CPU, GPU, and other related devices? Disabling the GPU seems counter intuative. Where are you getting your data that a GPU is not needed for Machine Learning? This again seems counter intuative. 

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Drew Fustini

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Oct 15, 2019, 8:02:27 PM10/15/19
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:57 AM jonnymo <jonn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't the purpose of OpenCL is to handle the parallel processing between CPU, GPU, and other related devices? Disabling the GPU seems counter intuative. Where are you getting your data that a GPU is not needed for Machine Learning? This again seems counter intuative.

The TI Deep Learning SDK uses OpenCL interface to the DSP cores and
the EVE (embedded vision engine). Here is an overview:
http://downloads.ti.com/mctools/esd/docs/tidl-api/intro.html

Regards,
Drew

jonnymo

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Oct 15, 2019, 8:53:18 PM10/15/19
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Yeah, I seen this, but this was not referenced in the comment. The comment implied the GPU is not used in any ML implementation. This I don't agree with.

Jon
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