BBEdit, Subversion and Monterey

[Luca Accomazzi]

Good [period of the day] everybody.

I find myself in need to use Subversion on a project again, after many years. BBEdit has supported Subversion since forever, and I see Subversion mentioned even in the most recent release notes. Unfortunately, it looks like Apple has lost interest in that technology a couple of years ago with Big Sur.

Googling around I find many suggestions on how to install the latest Subversion in Monterey — which is the macOS version I'm using — everything from "just download the sources and compile them yourself" to "find an old Mac and copy over these directories".

Before I embark in one or more of these attempts I thought I would consult this group and hear if someone has already found a way which works well with BBEdit…

Many thanks in advance

Luca

[Rainer Krug]

Home-brew is your friend here:

1) install home-brew

2) install subversion (`brew install subversion`)

I do nearly all installations via home-brew and no problems so far.

Cheers,

Rainer

[Rainer Krug]

that should be 'homebrew' - autocorrect..... https://docs.brew.sh/Installation

[Rich Siegel]

On 27 Jan 2022, at 12:39, Rainer Krug wrote:

> Home-brew is your friend here:
>
> 1) install home-brew
> 2) install subversion (`brew install subversion`)
>
> I do nearly all installations via home-brew and no problems so far.

I concur; https://brew.sh/ to install Homebrew, then `brew install svn`, wait a bit, and you're all set.

You'll also need to make sure that `/opt/homebrew/bin/` is in `/etc/paths`. You can put it in `~/.zshenv` instead, but then if you install tools which overlap with the ones included with macOS (such as `git`) then they won't come up early enough in the process.

R.

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[Craig Heilman]

As an alternative, I’ve used Xversion (commercial, see https://ikoder.com) for several years and been satisfied with it. It has various versions of subversion libraries built-in (not sure how that is controlled). I haven’t used it directly with BBEdit so can’t comment on that aspect but the website says it includes compare and merge integration with BBEdit.

Craig

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[Luca Accomazzi]

Thank you all for your thoughtful answers and suggestions. I’ll leave here one small extra tidbit for anyone Googling this late at night and in a hurry…

Looks like /opt/homebrew/ has been moved (or, at least, I found /opt/ empty on my Mac after install). So, Rich’s suggestion quoted below becomes

"You'll also need to make sure that `/usr/local/Cellar/subversion/1.14.1_4/bin` is in `/etc/paths`. 

Luca

[Rainer Krug]

Glad that it worked.

It is the other way around - it was /usr/local for the intel Macs, but for the M1 Macs, it moved to /opt/homebrew. 

[Rich Siegel]

On 28 Jan 2022, at 3:17, Luca Accomazzi wrote:

> Thank you all for your thoughtful answers and suggestions. I’ll leave here one small extra tidbit for anyone Googling this late at night and in a hurry…
>
> Looks like /opt/homebrew/ has been moved (or, at least, I found /opt/ empty on my Mac after install). So, Rich’s suggestion quoted below becomes
> "You'll also need to make sure that `/usr/local/Cellar/subversion/1.14.1_4/bin` is in `/etc/paths`.

That's not necessary, and in fact I recommend against it. If you've added /usr/local/Cellar or any subpath of it to /etc/paths, you should remove it or there will be tears later.

As Rainer said:

> It is the other way around - it was /usr/local for the intel Macs, but for
> the M1 Macs, it moved to /opt/homebrew.

So on your Intel machine, I expect you will find that /usr/local/bin/ is already in $PATH, and your Homebrew-installed tools are already available.