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許重義Chung Hsu

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李總統訪問記要 is the title of an an e-mail I have just received. Selected segments on leadership that are relevant to the thread on presidential candidates under discussion are quoted below  for your information. Personal health and private issues are deleted.

Subject: 李總統訪問記要

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一坐下,一如過往,沒有廢話。第一句話就是物聯網(Internet Of Things)。闡述之後,第二個就提頁岩油Shell  Oil。

物聯網影響今後50 年人類生活形態,頁岩油的開採,改變未來50 年的地緣政治與經濟運作模式。

在這兩大衝擊之下,台灣如何自處?什麼是今後台灣的關鍵產業?

李總統日思夜想的,都是國家大戰略Grand Strategy。

不像多數政治人物,小鼻子,小眼睛,東家長,西家短。搞些小聰明,小手段,為自己謀福利。

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物聯網中的一個重要內容是能源網絡。李總統建議台灣可以分成六區,以不同方式生產能源。有如德國的「分散式再生能源」,與印度的
「微功率電網」。

我問,您説台灣可能十年內獨立,立論基礎何在?

他説,中國可能在2020年,變成世界第一大經濟體。因此,自我膨脹,直取釣魚台,日本一定反擊,美國一定參戰。中國被撃潰。這是台灣獨立最佳時機。
因此,台灣在這段時間,要作最好準備。

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Patrick Huang

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Dear Chung Hsu,
您太健忘了。李登輝總統固然有不少貢獻,但他在扁案中對阿扁落井下石、以及大家營救阿扁時他的嗤之以鼻,都讓人非常錯愕!

我認為他代表目前台派政治人物格局的侷限,即無法超越選舉恩怨、個人恩怨。

Patrick 

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Hwang, Bang H.

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Hi Partick,

 

I hope that you do not mind for me of expressing my thoughts on the LTH and CSB.  First of all, you must agree a general saying that no body is perfect except God.  Of course, LTH is not perfect, since he is also a regular person.

 

My personal observations from the past several years made me to feel that

 

1. LTH has assisted CSB to take over the "throne" peacefully to complete the first "政權轉移". 

 

2. LTH also joined CSB for the "手牽手" movement for helping the CBS' presidential campaign.

 

For the above, CBS should appreciate LTH very much. Instead, during CBS' presidency, he once hinted that LTH was corruptive in the arm sale investigations.  This might have made LTH mad.  In the contrary, in the past several years, it seems that most people consider that CBS was corrupted.  But I felt strongly that CBS' sentence is something to do with the Taiwan's injustice.

 

Actually, CBS is very naïve as evident from a small sue happened in Hua-Lien.  For that case, CBS walked alone as a president to face a no-body judge in Hua-Lien's local court.  He never knew that he could exercise his executive powder to delay such a small case.  CBS' naivety can further be revealed from the fact that LTH has been old enough to be his father, and LTH is a former president who has assisted him to have "政權轉移", some respects must be given to LTH.  Obviously CBS did not.  I wonder if you were LTH,  how would you respond to CBS' attitude?  I personally believe that "IT" could have nothing to do with 選舉恩怨. 

 

Lastly, it is also not understandable why CBS with a presidential experience did not know how to properly advice his son not to run for his congressional effort some 3~4 years ago, resulting in a bad DPP's defeat in Kao-hsiung.  From this regional election, CBS did not have a broad "顧大局" concept, only for his personal gain.  I hope that CBS has changed all those years, and he is improving his health.  

 

God bless Taiwan!!  

 

Bang Hwang

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


From: Patrick Huang [pathu...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 4:36 PM
To: 許重義Chung Hsu
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Subject: Re: 李總統訪問記要

Hwang, Bang H.

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Hi Frank,

 

Thank you for an insightful response. 

 

From your reply, I would like to further extend to an elucidation on mayor KO's wisdom from which the politicians can learn from KO Wen-Jer, who cared for CBS, and deeply respects LTH.  During KO's campaign for Taipei mayoral election, KP has ever visited LTH at least 4 times asking for president Lee's advice which should have in part contributed to the KP's landslide victory for his mayoral election.

 

With the KP's heart-felt warmth to the society, his gut to reveal corruption, his patriotism toward Taiwan, his tender care for CBS and his respect to LTH, in my opinion, KP is one of the best politicians in Taiwan at this moment who may become a great statesman.  KP has revolutioninzed Taiwan's politics.

 

God bless KP, and Taiwan!

 

Bang

 

 

 

 


From: Frank S T Hsiao [frank...@Colorado.EDU]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:47 AM
To: Hwang, Bang H.; Patrick Huang; 許重義Chung Hsu
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Subject: RE: 李總統訪問記要

Bang, your answer makes sense. It is regrettable that the two cannot get together.

 

But it is stupidity of some Taiwanese using the rift between the two to divide the Taiwanese camp. What the Taiwanese should do is ignore the rift and respect their respective contributions to the Taiwanese society. Let the history be the ultimate judge.

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Hi Frank,

My dIsclaimer: I don't intend to create a rift between LTH and CSB camps or even to discuss LTH per se.

My post was just to remind Chung Hsu, who in his original post praising LTH as not 小鼻子小眼睛, that he may have over-rated LTH.

Patrick 

On Feb 21, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Frank S T Hsiao <frank...@Colorado.EDU> wrote:

Bang, your answer makes sense. It is regrettable that the two cannot get together.

 

But it is stupidity of some Taiwanese using the rift between the two to divide the Taiwanese camp. What the Taiwanese should do is ignore the rift and respect their respective contributions to the Taiwanese society. Let the history be the ultimate judge.

 


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Patrick老大:

有空請關在自家的廁所間備有洗澡設施,打開電燈24小時,規定自己一天出來三十分鐘至一小時,關三天試試看感覺如何?

台灣歷屆的總統好幾位,只有阿扁前總統被囚禁超過六年,目前為止,他還在Medical Parole 當中,為什麼? 

請想一想:

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