Hi Everyone!
Just saw this report on the annual Christmas bonus that UK State
Pensioners in
get - see https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/16713379/millions-state-pension-christmas-bonus-2021-date-paid/
I know that it's only £10, but I hadn't heard about it before.
I guess that at least we can be comforted that pensioners outside of Europe also miss out.
Paul
Hello everyone,
Just a ‘heads-up’ to share that (as an individual) I’ve emailed the below content to mo...@the-sun.co.uk
Hi,
Just seen the below article on your website.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/16713379/millions-state-pension-christmas-bonus-2021-date-paid/
Talk about ‘rubbing salt into a wound’.
Do you, and your readers, realise that hundreds of thousands of other people who during their working life (including, sadly now dwindling numbers of, service personnel during WW2) paid the compulsory NIC (National Insurance Contributions) are excluded?
The exclusion doesn’t just apply to such (one-off) initiatives.
The same people also only found out, after eventually retiring, that they are no longer entitled to receive the same DWP payments as other people who made the same (or very similar) payments into the NIC scheme.
You may well ask why?
The reason is simple.
Apparently, according to UK government policy decisions, they (before, or even after, retiring) had the ‘audacity’ to move and now live other than in the UK.
The discrimination doesn’t just end there.
It can be also, quite specifically, depend on their exact geographical location.
For example, former UK residents who now (as retirees) live in either Detroit (Michigan, US of A) or literally across the border in Windsor (Ontario, Canada) will/do get different amounts paid (having made identical amounts into the NIC over identical periods of time) by DWP now based only on their current location.
If they are in Detroit (i.e. anywhere in US of A) their payments from the DWP will increase annually (as if they were still resident in UK) but if they are in Windsor (i.e. anywhere in Canada, or many other Commonwealth country) then they get no such increase (unless of course they are forced to relocate elsewhere (such over the border, back to UK or one of a ‘few’ chosen countries based on the UK Government ‘whims list’.) due to a lack of finance in their remaining twilight years.
Bizarrely, if they even relocated for a short period (e.g. their now grown children paid for them to travel to spend time with the grand kids) they would ‘magically’ be paid the appropriate increased payment amount. That, of course, is assuming they knew how to do so and able submit a fully completely correct application to the DWP in the (short) time available.
If you want to help and make a real difference to such people’s lives (especially ex-veterans personnel) why not bring this discriminatory issue to the attention of general public?
Hopefully yours,
John Wilson
I don’t expect a reply back, from mo...@the-sun.co.uk
However life does provide often expected surprises.
Bye for now,
John (w.)
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Hi Paul
Are we sure that the USA is missed out or has the Sun made a mistake?
Tony
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Tony Walsh wrote on 15/11/2021 10:47 am:
Are we sure that the USA is missed out or has the Sun made a mistake?
Hi Tony!
I was relying on The Sun to get it right, and checking, it looks like they were generally correct https://www.gov.uk/christmas-bonus/eligibility
There is a question about people in the EU, but it looks way too difficult to check that, so I'm not going to bother.
Paul
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[bapanews] Annual Christmas discrimination
The
government, or should I say the Tory party, in its manifesto 12 years ago
promised to remove the 15 year voting rule. Boris promised Harry S. faithfully
in a personal letter the 15 year rule will go ASAP. So what’s the hold up? Well it’s
like this. The powers to be had to make sure they were going to be safe not
having to have thousands of rather irate frozen pensioners demanding answer as
to when the Tory government will also remove the frozen pension policy whim.
The up to recent times part of the “MP’s
job” description was to answer to his constituents and registered
overseas expats. The Tory gov’t had to get that changed before the 15 year rule
was finally removed! Well it now seems
OK to go ahead and remove it as the job description for MPs has dropped the “and
registered overseas expats” bit. How does that affect you? You can vote but don’t
expect your MP answer your calls! (they can grab your votes but still will not
talk with you!)
[bapanews] Annual Christmas discrimination
The
government, or should I say the Tory party, in its manifesto 12 years ago
promised to remove the 15 year voting rule. Boris promised Harry S. faithfully
in a personal letter the 15 year rule will go ASAP. So what’s the hold up? Well it’s
like this. The powers to be had to make sure they were going to be safe not
having to have thousands of rather irate frozen pensioners demanding answer as
to when the Tory government will also remove the frozen pension policy whim.
The up to recent times part of the “MP’s
job” description was to answer to his constituents and registered
overseas expats. The Tory gov’t had to get that changed before the 15 year rule
was finally removed! Well it now seems
OK to go ahead and remove it as the job description for MPs has dropped the “and
registered overseas expats” bit. How does that affect you? You can vote but don’t
expect your MP answer your calls! (they can grab your votes but still will not
talk with you!)
Hi John Feltham
Your MP should be for the constituency you last registered to vote. You will need to confirm that by emailing the local Electoral Registration Office. If you go to https://www.gov.uk/contact-electoral-registration-office there is an online link to find if you are or was registered in that constituency you last lived in? If not registered you may have to do some digging with that office, (and or the local authority). if you can prove your last UK address it would help. Best of luck! Let me know how you get on please.
Clive
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Hi John Feltham
Your MP should be for the constituency you last registered to vote. You will need to confirm that by emailing the local Electoral Registration Office. If you go to https://www.gov.uk/contact-electoral-registration-office there is an online link to find if you are or was registered in that constituency you last lived in? If not registered you may have to do some digging with that office, (and or the local authority). if you can prove your last UK address it would help. Best of luck! Let me know how you get on please.
Thank you for that response.
I have voted in every election during the time that I been in Australia.
On 17 Nov 2021, at 5:18 pm, 'elizabeth cardoo' via BAPA <bapa...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Please do not shoot me down I’m curious…….but why would you be bothered about politics in UK?You left the country so why bother !!
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Dear Elizabeth. Tony et al.
I believe Australians retiring to the UK have their pensions indexed by Australia. Australia also tops up people suffering financially under the frozen pension policy with a pension.
Why bother with UK politics?. Simple explanation. It is only UK politicians who can end the immoral, inequitable, unfair, dishonest and disgraceful treatment given under the frozen pension policy. My opinion is that trying to embarrass UK politicians into change through a PR campaign is not working. Neither is personal lobbying.
If some politicians were likely to lose their seats then things might change. Unfortunately, funding is probably not available to engage some expert researchers to bring this about.
In my opinion, and others I’m sure have thought the same way, what is needed is for ex pats to vote at election time. Research needs to be carried out to find the seats that are most at risk to sitting members. Then to find all the ex pats who lived in these vulnerable constituencies and are living in countries where they are subjected to the frozen pension policy and left the UK in the last 15 years. A huge task but not impossible. If they were to vote against the incumbent it might clarify a few minds. The threat of losing their seat might goad some MPs into action.
Regards
Dr Bruce Englefield OAM.
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