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[vaidya nathan]

Exgratia Increase.

Instead of asking for Exgratia payment amount the RTI or updation,  we can volunteer for IBA and UFBU to increase Exgratia by 1000 rs and can pay DA for the total Exgratia amount also in future in lieu of Updation.   This will improve to a greater extend  pensioners financial strain. Better try alternate options rather than fighting with. Even Govts throughout World are Run like this. 

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Exgratia details under RTI - Indian bank

Ramani Konnayar <knra...@gmail.com>: Dec 25 01:09PM +0530 IBA-UFBU appear to take the stand that a review need not necessarily result in an increase and that in the reviews promptly made in April 2024 and April 2025 as stipulated in the BPS, it was decided to continue the same amounts as no case was made out for a revision (upward/downward). For them, the word 'reviewing' is akin to the word 'considering' which does not always mean considering favourably. We should, in fact, be happy that the reviews did not result in a decrease.   K N RAMANI   On Thu, 25 Dec, 2025, 12:24 pm Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam, <

Niranjan Cn <niran...@gmail.com>: Dec 25 05:20PM +0530 Sirs, Banks should reply with figures without ambiguity - which gives unnecessary doubts in minds of pensioners.   However, what we want to do with these figures ? Even if it is 10 crores or 100 crores - any action/inferance intended ?   Please think it over.   Niranjan   On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 9:21 AM Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam <

JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Dec 26 10:57AM +0530 IBA have only two arguments against Updation in M C Singhla case. 1. Pension regulation does not have provision for periodical rev vision of pension. 2. Banks cannot afford the cost of Updation. UFBU can negotiate the issue with IBA with some modification of the RBI formula for updation. ******************* But in SC updation case the first argument of IBA does not hold much validity after Union government approved updation in RBI. But as far as cost is concerned IBA will get all information from Banks and petitioners will be at great disadvantage. Without authentic information petitioners cannot counter IBA claim of huge cost effectively. This is purely one sided affair. But IBA and Banks attitude towards pensioners is "we are dealing with UFBU, who are you to seek details. You are third party" Pay commission, RBI,LIC are treating their pensioners in dignified manner.

Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam <1952...@gmail.com>: Dec 25 10:21PM -0800 Do we have any information that actually some review has been done?   S Kalyanasundaram   On Friday, December 26, 2025 at 9:57:25 AM UTC+5:30 Ramani Konnayar wrote:

Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam <1952...@gmail.com>: Dec 25 09:51PM -0800 We do not know what exactly is our demand of updation. Is it similar to RBI employees pension or something else? We also do not know what is the cost of any updation exercise. As a temporary measure the ex-gratia system was introduced.   Now the banks have the data of ex-gratia payment. If this data is shared, we can work out the cost of increase in exgratia very easily. There is no requirement of elaborate calculation involving actuary estimation. Only for funding actuary estimation may be required. Based on this, a demand for suitable increase in ex-gratia can be put up for discussion and any possible agreement.   But before getting the data, why to guess that the data will be useless for us?   S Kalyanasundaram           On Friday, December 26, 2025 at 9:57:25 AM UTC+5:30 Niranjan Cn wrote:

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T. SRINIVAS <tsrin...@yahoo.co.in>: Dec 26 07:54AM To भारतीय मजदूर संघ BHARATIYA MAZDOOR SANGH Dattopant Thengadi Bhawan, 27, Deendayal Upadhyay Marg, New Delhi-110002 Tel: 011 23222654 Fax: 91-11-23212648       Shri Girish Chandra Arya please All India Secretary & In-charge: Financial Sector      Dear  Sir,                            "  Namaskaar ".  We seek your best wishes. The Profit or Loss of  Nationalised banks is that of theGovernment.  - Nothing prevents to give equal salary to all employees of Public Sector Undertakings, Central and State GovernmentEmployees.   To improve the character of the nation andreducing the burden of the Courts ( Over 5 Crore cases pending )Judicial Powers should be given to Employees of PSUs. Thiswill enhance the feeling in the mind of Employees of PSUs( e.g. Nationalised Banks / Insurance, etc. ) that they belongto Government.  Merely mentioning " A Government of India Undertaking " below the name of the Nationalised Bank, Insurance Companies etc. will not help the Nation. The Government helps Banks is well known. e.g. - Capital Infusion (Recapitalization): Directly injecting funds (equity) into PSBs to strengthen their capital base, as seen with ₹2.20 lakh crore infusion in the three years ending 2019. - Facilitating Other Funds: Encouraging banks to raise funds from markets (e.g., ₹0.66 lakh crore raised alongside government infusion).   Of course, the MLAs, MPs, IAS Babus, IPS, etc. may notsubscribe for such reformation / progress easily. Sir, we request you to take up the matter suitably withthe Finance Minister to make suitable legislationin the interest of the country please. Thanking you, With kind regards, With greetings, Yours, T.  Srinivas ( Retired - Punjab National Bank )       NEWRY  SHANMITA  FLATS,      BLOCK 4 A……FLAT – 403,   21, BHARATHIYAR STREET, JALLADIAMPET,   NEAR BAYNES ORCHIDS SCHOOL,   PALLIKARANAI,  CHENNAI – 600100.     Phone :  9 4 4 5 6   0 4 2 2 4  Email :  tsrin...@yahoo.co.inBus Stop :  Jeyachandran Textiles, Pallikaranai

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[Ramani Konnayar]

IBA will never agree to give DA on ex-gratia as the cost will be much more than even the cost of updation based on the lines of RBI pensioners' updation.

To elucidate, I belong to the 6th BPS group and am getting an ex-gratia of ₹4400 p.m. The present rate of DA for this group is 729.08%. So, if the ex-gratia is hiked to ₹5400, the DA on it will work out to ₹39370. And the total increase in my pension will come to more than 90%.

K N RAMANI 

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