CALL FOR STRIKE BY UFBU

[PM]

For Information:

Copy of UFBU circular on call for series of strike from Jan 31st '2020 is attached here below:

[PM]

First impact:

Bank strike on 31st and 1st Feb'2020.

Most of the banks are making the pension credit on last day of the month or on 1st of next month.

Yes few others are making payments earler too.

Any way pensioners,may have a sigh of relief;since Family Pension and Updation of pension too have shown on circular!

[Hariharan K]

If unions are sincere in their pensioners demand without demanding pensioners will pay levy to them. Pensioners will participate in all demos.

It is up to UFBU to utilise pensioners.

Regards.

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[Velayudhan Nair]

Fortunately for us, SBI would credit pension on 27th, thank God...
Would these guys fight for retirees too?
That's a hundred dollar problem.
Would the so called saviours of bank employees-AIBEA and AIBOC decide
on saving the poor retirees?
We will pay levy, no doubt if we get some solace in updation, not FP.
Dear Com CHV, come to the rescue of the retirees.I am sure, you can
save us.The Almighty would reward you.
Please have mercy on retirees, dear comrade.At this age of 72, you
should have some concern over the suffering retirees, who fight for
mere existence.
Please understand our issues.The only mistake we committed was to join
banking service.The Almighty has punished us.
You know why we suffer.
So, please help us, dear comrade...



warm reg



CPVNAIR, 71 years.
e SBT

[Satyanarayana Rao]

The UFBU is becoming more active. Let the agitation continue till all the demands are agreed and a concrete agreement is signed. The UFBU has given a long rope to IBA and government. There is limit for any organisation to peruse. The situation is very bad. The UFBU has to strike. With  strike and strikes alone we have achieved 10 bipartite settlements. The UFBU  should assert its strength and make the government and IBA to concede all the demands. No more dilution. No more compromise. Fight and fight till you succeed. Success comes to those who dare and act seldom goes to timid.With fighting greetings. Unity is strength. 

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For Information:


Views of Convenor,Forum of Bank Pensioner Activists:


UNIONS MUST NOT BECOME LAUGHING LOT, MUST DO ALL TO REVIVE THEIR ALL TIME LOW CREDIBILITY...


UFBU raised 12 issues in their Circular dated 15.1.2020 that need careful appraisal on many counts, since for this a long drawn agitations programs followed with strikes in 3 phases are announced. At first glance, we find issues listed are not according to importance & merits and one most important issue didn't find place in circular, i.e. health insurance from WFs to retirees, as directed by DFS vide their letter 24.2.2012.

Bank men know, out of 4.5 bank pensioners there are 90000 windows, whose economic plights are hidden to none and out of 4.5 lakh pensioners 75% could not take health insurance cover due to 6 time steep rise in premium in 5 years. We may conclude, health insurance for retirees has no importance in UFBU idea, though it's biggest health problem of over 4.5 lakh retirees.

Now to prioritization of issues. According to us, there are two categories among issues like 'core issues' and 'miscellaneous' issues. Hope, nobody would dispute the idea if we say that (i) Pay, allowances increase and improvements in other existing service conditions is one issue; (ii) Updating of Pension/Family Pension, exgratia is other issue; (iii) Merger of Special Pay in Basic from 1.11.2012 is third issue and what not mentioned in demands, (iv) minimum health cover to all retirees from Welfare Funds is fourth one. These are 4 issues we can say as core issues to crack.

We all know remaining other issues like 5 days banking, scrapping NPS, exemption of retrial benefits from IT, uniform business/working, lunch hours, defined working hours, leave Bank etc fall in miscellaneous category and not that way so important as above issues. Well, our concerns in this regard relate to inappropriate order in listing or missing one most important, ie health cover to retirees.

Now, a Bank level issue has been universalized by giving place here. Equal wage for equal work to contract workers. Why to legitimize 'contract' job. Why to legitimize another 'category' of contract workers? Best way has been to fix problem, where it is and stop it by absorbing temporary/casual  employees in service. Is it that need periodical approach or regular at Bank level or just to bulge number of issues in COD?

Yes, equal wage for equal work is most important issue concerning regular employees and officers. Given the fact that all PSBs including SBI are under govt ownership & control. They all are IBA member and party to settlements/ Joint notes. Their nature of jobs, performance, risks, responsibilities are identical. Need is to weed out discrimination in pay, allowance and service conditions at first stage in these banks. Whatever is best available in a particular Bank, that should be made available to all PSBs. Why not this? Why Unions protect or shield such discrimination?



So, talking of contract workers etc is a treachery in our opinion. Unions should be fair and straight in their approach to bring for all what's at present is for few.

In our mail dated 10.1.2020 to Sri S. K. Bandlish, Convenor, UFBU we brought to his kind attention the distress among banking fraternity across cadre that needs proper addressal. We were conclusive as under:

1. Adequate & fair wage & allowances.
2. Minimum 25% load
3. 'Composite & comprehensive'
     settlement.
4. Pension/Family Pension Revision
     as already done in RBI.
5. Minimum Free Health cover to all
     Retirees from WFs.
6. Retirees Unions be included in
    UFBU, allowed as observer in joint
    Talks OR dismantled with an advice
     to retirees to return to their parent
     Unions.

In our mail, we explained the reasons, expediencies, circumstances and necessities. In last settlement banks were given 15% & LIC 17.5%. Thus, Bank men had already suffered by 2.5% less than LIC for last 5 years. Last several settlements, fell short of bank men expectations. Thus their wages, allowances and service conditions continued deteriorating settlement after settlement. We, therefore, opinioned, 25% increase as it  would bridge the widened gap to reasonable extent. We fail to understand, what's the yard that UFBU applies to measure and determine 20% rise as adequate? Further, this is subject to correction and as against bankers 12.25% offer. If bank men get 2.5% compensation over on LIC's last 17.5% it comes to 20% for 5 years from Nov.2017. 20% is just due in view of LIC's 17.5% from Nov.2012.

Most important aspect of Retirees right to Welfare Funds and health cover mises from the list. It means Unions justify denial of health cover from Welfare Funds as given by DFS video letter dated 24.2.2012. IBA was right to deny health cover. Govt directive was wrong.



Special Pay was a deliberate creation to deprive pensionary gains. First you commit blunders and then agitate to remove is a wonderful play. However, it must be corrected from 1.11.2012, not like 1616/1684 from prospective date that people had to fight up to Supreme Court.

One more gimmick that we find. In 9th settlement old pension scheme was scrapped by Agreement. Just within 2 and a half year in charter of Demands of 10th Bipartite, demand was raised to scrape NPS. People want to know when leaders were in hung, while scalping old Pension Scheme or now demanding scraping NPS?

We reiterate 25% increase is legitimate, a composite and comprehensive settlement is necessary covering all core issues as discussed above. Unions must protect themselves to become a subject of mockery and try to raise their all time low bar of credibility. This settlement shall set their level.

(J. N. Shukla)
National Convenor
Forum of Bank Pensioner Activists,
Prayagraj
16.1.2020

-IB News,15th Jan'2020.

[Narasaiah Chintalapudi]

Dear retiree comrades,

Every time UFBU place demands like this only. After achieving their personal goals one day mid night signing of BPS completed. All these game of selfish leaders.

Regards,

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[Suresh Multani]

Dear friends,

What about resignee who was compelled to resign as there was no Exit route.

I was on medical leave.

Bank directed either to resume duties or Resign.

Bank declined VRS saying I am

PF optee hence no VRS is allowed.

Kindly take note of this.

On medical leave 

no other Exit

Bank instructed to Resign.

I resigned because management

compelled me to do so.

Thanks and regards

Suresh Pratap Multani

Worked 32 years with Union Bank of India.

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[Velayudhan Nair]

And levy collection.This is the priority.Let the retirees go to hell,
we want levy.Retirees may not pay levy.


warm reg


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[S.R. CHOWDHRY]

This programme may achieve the objectives of bank unions if adhered to. Leaders should not back out as done in the past many times. 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

All this is match fixing by IBA and UFBU. Govt has recognized BPS and 9 unions have been given authority to negotiate with IBA on behalf of Employees/retirees. It  is up to UFBU to utilize this authority to negotiate efficiently/skillfully with IBA and achieve results.

But the way proceedings going on it seems it is nothing but match fixing.

Every employee and Pensioner know and  understand that Wage revision quantum and Pension Updation are two major important aspects of BPS and should be resolved first. Should we believe that veteran trade union leaders does not understand this?

IBA has devised system of small negotiating committee and big negotiating committee to cheat employees and retirees. Refer UFBU circulars UFBU reports list of misc items that discussed and whenever  wage revision or updation issue is raised it is said it will be discussed in main negotiating committee. As per UFBU reports main negotiating committee meeting always ends in "IBA offered 8% we did not agree and IBA said updation cost to be studied and issues will be discussed in next meeting". Main negotiating committee always ends up like this and after discussing few allowances BPS dragged to 30 months. After that UFBU announces few strikes and after making employees pocket empty signs up agreeing for wage percentage at same level of last year. No retirees issues discussed.

1. Why veteran leaders are not discussing wage revision and Updation first?

2. Why they are not insisting IBA to produce cost details of Updation in first two meetings itself? Why actuary was not appointed in first quarter of 2018?

Both IBA and UFBU want to show that even getting 12% itself is difficult and uFBu after strikes achieved 15% which is historic.

Both does not want to discuss upadation and drag simply by IBA saying cost to be decided in every meeting and Unions outside make campaigns that funds are insufficient.

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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

My Dear Friends,

“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......

 

My Hearty thankful Congratulations to all those who expressed their solidarity in my endevours……

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VyTmj57Lc-lMOr9JEZsWmYGv4Ufq1mf3/view?usp=sharing

 

I express my deep sense of gratitude to all those committed comrades who supported the cause with head and heart.

I thankfully congratulate  the committed cadre of the retiree-fraternity for all the support in my endevours.

 

Your committed support has always been a very valuable source of inspiration in my endevours.

I express once again my deep sense of gratitude to one and all ….. 

NOW THAT THE "HANGING SWORDS" HAVE BEEN KEPT ON THE HEADS OF THE MANAGEMENTS, IT'S UP TO THEM TO REACT POSITIVELY AS SUFFICIENT PRESSURE HAS ALREADY BEEN EXHORTED ON THEM.... IN THE FORM OF CBI PROBE INTO THE PENSION CORPUS FUNDS IN ABOUT 8 BANKS ALREADY.  LET THEM READ THE "WRITINGS ON THE WALL" AND REACT POSITIVELY......  

IT WAS INDEED A STRANGE COINCIDENCE THAT MY ABOVE COMPLAINTS REACHED THE SUPREME COURT REGISTRY AT A TIME WHEN  OFFICERS DRAWN FROM THE CENTRAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (CBI ) WERE OVER SEEING THE DAY-TO-DAY FUNCTIONING THE OFFICE OF THE REGISTRAR AT THE SUPREME COURT -  OWING TO CERTAIN  SERIOUS MALPRACTICES  HAVING BEEN NOTICED IN THE REGISTRY'S DAY-TO-DAY FUNCTIONING AT THAT POINT OF TIME.  

THANKS TO  SRI RANJAN GOGAI, THE THEN  CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA ,  FOR HIS LORDHIP’S  BOLD STEP WHO CAUSED TO INDUCT THE OFFICIALS  DRAWN FROM  CBI FOR INVESTIGATION  OF THE SUPREME COURT REGISTRY, ON DAY-TO-DAY BASIS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUDICIARY.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12cJ-gt1q_kOkGt94UxY5AR3iQqezwn7R/view?usp=sharing

(IN FACT, ONE OF MY ABOVE COMPLAINTS WERE ALSO RECEIVED BY THE HON’BLE SUPREME COURT REGISTRY AS FORWARDED BY THE OFFICE OF THE HON’BLE  VICE PRESIDENT OF INDIA.)

THOUGH MY ABOVE GRIEVANCES WERE NOT  ADMITTED FOR PIL ON TECHNICAL GROUNDS,  THE MATTER REACHED THE NOTICE OF ALL THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED AS TO THE STRONG PRIMA-FACIE EVIDENCES AS EVIDENTLY AVAILABLE IN MY ABOVE COMPLAINT/S.

MORE THAN MY ABOVE EFFORTS, THE COMMITTED LEGAL ACTION INITIATED BY OUR LEARNED SENIOR COMRADE - VIZ: SRI M S SIDHU OF OBC ARE INDEED COMMENDABLE.  MY HEARTY GREETINGS AND REGARDS TO SRI SIDHU GARU FOR HIS ENDEVOURS IN THIS REGARD - A TORCH-BEARER. 

IN THE ABOVE BACK DROP,  IT 'S  NOW RELIABLY LEARNT THAT INVESTIGATIONS BY CBI HAS ALREADY BEEN INITIATED  IN ABOUT 8 TO 10 BANKS IN THIS REGARD.

LET US HOPE  THAT ALL THE CULPRITS WOULD BE BROUGHT TO BOOK SOON.

IT’S A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THE INTEREST OF THE FRATERNITY OF BANK RETIREES. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GFnTDb4Ew8&t=30s  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmdl9V7Yl98&t=21s 

Success shall be ours....


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With Greetings on the eve of Makara Sankranthi and Pongal,

 మీ ఇంటిల్లిపాదికీ సంక్రాంతి శుభాకాంక్షలతో ....

I remain – Yours,
“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......  
I remain – Yours,
 దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి  
DEVULAPALLI SRINIVASA MURTI
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VIJAYAWADA 521108
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[Anantharaman Tg]

A post mortem very well done by Sri Somashekara!

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[Anusha Baskaran]

The two utmost issue to be settled are BP settlement and pension updation. Regarding pension updation, RBI had already implemented and the same has to be followed. Hence, there is no question of negotiation regarding which formula is to be adopted.

In respect of BP, improvement over previous settlement is the expectation of all. Starting at 2% to now  12 % requires 24 months time is untenable.

The reason cited as '' ill-health'' of the Banks is a ploy to drag the matter.

At last, Unions woke-up and given strike notice. Will this translate to achieve our goal is depends on how forceful our strike?

We have to take a cue from Postal Employees Union strike and their result. 

The situation for the present and future pensioners are NOW or NEVER. 

Let us all hope for the BEST in 2020.

Yours.

VEERASAMY BASKARAN. 

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[Anantharaman Tg]

I understand from one of the mails forwarded by

a friend that for LIC retirees and General Insurance

Retirees also updation of pension is yet to be achieved

and there the gentleman had written that they wait for

the issue of Bank pensioners and the result after Court

verdict.

LIC , I believe, is not at all a loss making one, so also the

Genl.Insurance Companies. But they also have to struggle for

getting pension updation!

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

We should remember that organizing strikes to day is no great deal and no organizational skills is required. There is a cartel of Unions called UFBU. If UFBU gives strike call naturally all unions participate and strike would be total. Employees have no option to say no to strikes. This is forced strike. Its impact on managements also is zero as there are more than 10-15 options available for customers to do day to day banking  without visiting any branches. In the past we have seen Banks are closed for 4-5 days due to holidays but no customer has complained. So one or two days strikes have no impact and employees will lose their salary. As regards indefinite strike UFBU know very well that it cannot be implemented. Sword of essential services act (which is renewed every six ninths) is hanging on heads of Union leaders. Govt may strike at any time.

If UFBU had announced strikes on March 30 and 31st it would have really hit the govt where it hurts and would have great impact.

March 28  Second Saturday Holiday

March 29  Sunday.

If 30 and 31st were strike days, Banks would have been closed for continuous 4 days at a time when tax collections were being done and govt would have lost revenue in present financial year. The strike would have incurred great loss to govt. We do not know why indefinite strike was not announced from 30th March. Now as usual RBI would ask all officers sit late night on 30th and 31st to ensure that tax collections is done smoothly. After that govt will not bother if Unions go on strike for few days.

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[KL Rao]

BSNL too , it seems , pension updation is not there . If all of us joining fighting together  , any way helps ?  Kindly speak . For us it is easy as RBI got it. 

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[PM]

For Information;

This time retirees issues,find a place in Badges of UFBU prior to coming banks strike on 31st and Feb 1st!
Resolution of issues,is different !

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

It is most important to see that this time the UFBU is very serious about pension issues. This is very evident from the demand badges that the immediate no 2 demand is pension updation along with wage settlement.This not only confirm that the entire UFBU leadership and its member ship is determined to wage war to fight for updation of pension and improve  family pension. We retirees have to appreciate the stand taken by UFBU and its rank and
file.I am happy to note that all most all veterans have stopped making negative comments against the negotiating team and the UFBU leadership. This will help and boost the authority of UFBU to ensure the pension updation and decent wage revision is achieved. This is the time to all retirees association to Express solidarity and maintain comradeship with fighting UFBU cadres. All the top leadership of all retirees associations should attend the demonstration and agtational programs and address the fighting comrades and enthuse them and share their past strikes experience with striking comrades.The retirees association should call for vide media coverage and give vide publicity and express total  solidarity with striking comrades and need for justice. All members of parliament and press and media  and support of all WELWISHERS and other central trade unions should be saught. This is the time to activate and mobilize support to bank strikes from all quarters. This time  we the retirees should get justice and serving employees a decent wage revision with continuous strike actions. No force on earth can stop the onward march of United approach and struggle of trade unions. Comrades have faith in your banner and your self. The ultimate success is to all . The victory is for both retirees and serving employees. Comrades March on march on for success. We the veterans are with the young fighting comrades shoulder to shoulder. With fighting greetings to all UFBU members and UFBU leadership. 

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FOR INFORMATION:

Copy of IBA letter to Convenor ,UFBU on bank strike declared is attached here below:

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:00:20 UTC+5:30, PM wrote:

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[PM]

[PM]

Copy of CLC letter on conciliation Dt 27.1.2020 attached for information:

_ LIC.PC

[natarajan pv]

Wait for settlement. U will know. Except some improvement in Family pension( that too not at par with RBI), nothing of pensioners demands will happen.

We hve seen in the last 20 years.

Earlier 100% DA was in the charter. Now it's not even there . What happened? 

THANKS AND REGARDS,

P.V.NATARAJAN.‌
9445021712.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr.Satyaanarayana

Wearing badges is no guarantee that they are serious. Shortly wait for UFBU  circular that since IBA has assured to look into the issues strike is withdrawn and after that settlement is signed without discussing retirees issues.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

The copy of the IBA letter is not clear to read.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Please refer IBA response to Bank strike. IBA has taken every care to ensure that any word about demands of retirees does not crept in the letter even by mistake,

IBA, AIBOC. AIBEA Zindabad

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[er iyer]

Respected sir Not even a single word. Reg Retirees issue.i feel this time also Retirees will get halwa.why Ufbu every time cheating retirees.even now AIBRF Aibparc supporting  Aibea going on writing letter to UFBu.

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[mohan p]

Yes.IBA's latest letter to Convenor,UFBU on strike call given by them is an ample proof that ,IBA has not seriously  discussed or arrived on any consensus with UFBU on Retirees issues to be included in that letter ,which high lights on all other issues discussed. 

it is crystal clear that ,they are showing demands like pension updation or family pension at least  in badges ,just to please retirees though no serious discussion took place so far.

Since few months more may take to conclude BPS talks,as usual ,at least in next few round of talks' UFBU can seriously take up retirees issues,to see that some of the major issues are resolved .

UFBU always,mention retirees issues in their circulars after each round of talks' where as in IBA's letter such things have not seen.

Rest we can think.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

Shri. Somasekhara ji.Every day is not Sunday. Every night has day light too.The situation is different to day.The pension updation in RBI has given strength to UFBU to fight for similar updation to all who are governed pension regulations as per the bps .There are instances of 100%day etc which are over looked and the joint note signed in2015 by UFBU are also still fresh in our memories. Still there is scope for ammendment and change of mind set in UFBU. With this background i firmly believe that the UFBU has taken petitioners just issues in right earnest and determined to settle updation and improvement in family pension. Let us fondly expect that this settlement will satisfy all pensioners with improvement in pension benefits and decent wages for serving employees. Beyond this nothing can be expected. With regards. 

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[natarajan pv]

It clearly exposes the false claims of UFBU.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

Shri  Somasekhara ji .This time you have said zindabad to IBA,Aiboc and to Aibea. Really it is good indication and we are sure that your inner heart is also expecting updation and improvement in family pension etc. Pl enthuse the striking UFBU leadership and UFBU members and all retirees till our updation and improvement in family pension is achieved through this 11th history making bps. With regards.Somasekhara ji Zindabad. 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

UFBU and IBA are not discussing retirees officially and as part of BPS but just chatting like discussing weather.

There is also possibility that UFBU not at all discussed retirees issues but simply reporting something. If at all IFBU and IBA officially discussed Updation issue IBA would have mentioned it in Cir.  Though Updation was part of issues in strike notice IBA refrained from making any comment indicates that no discussion has taken place.

Inconsistent reports by UFBU claiming that in one meeting they have discussed common DA and in another saying actuaries appointed and in another report claiming that IBA said Updation not possible and again saying we have demanded merger of DA @ 6352 for all pensioners. and IBA silent on all these matters indicate that nothing has been discussed.

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[Pratima Ghosh]

Mr. Natarajan, how did you come to the conclusion if i may ask, that Family pension, if improved, will not be on the basis of RBI formula? Has IBA or some other party indicated the same or your comment based on assumption?

[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr Satyanarayana the real situation is this.

Day of strikes as weapon is over. Now we have to fight war with IBA with data and documents. Retiree organizations, Individuals have written thousands of letters to DFS but same has been forwarded to IBA. IBA is feeding false data to DFS and DFS is giving false replies in Parliament.

Overall IBA has succeeded in giving impression that Updation cost and 199% DA is high without ever submitting single cost data document.

To fight with IBA Unions need to have accurate cost data but as per their own reports Unions have no clue about cost data and they have not made any attempts to collect the same.

Further AIBOC and AIBEA often mention updation in cir but there is no consensus among them as to which formula they have to demand. You are aware that cost of updation depends  on Type of formula.

Unions have no clear stand on source of funds for updation. If Unions themselves agree that Pension funds are not sufficient  what are the alternative source they have to come to an understanding between them.

XI BPS will conclude within next three months and in that only 2-3 meetings possible. Wage revision offer is to be escalated from 12.25% to 15%. This will consume 2 meetings. As mentioned above there is a lot to discuss about updation apart from collecting cost data.

As IBA disclosed 39 meetings have taken place and UFBU has not  done any home work or discussed updation in these 39 meetings. I cannot believe  UFBU will discuss everything in next one or two meetings as status of Updation negotiation is in same stage as it was on the day of submitting COD.

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[Anantharaman Tg]

Sri Somasekhara's Zindabad is mockery, Rao Sir!

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[Jayaram periyapatna]

Mr. Satyanarayanji:  Kindly stop your preachings.  Please sign off and watch as a mute spectator of happenings like majority of retirees.  It is simply a headache and irritating to read your emails.    Shri Prasad has also advised you recently only who worked really hard day and night to get benefits to many SBM retirees who followed him with total confidence. Did you played any positive role in that?   Anything positive and concrete are never found in your emails.  Recently some blog members wanted your residential address to garland you after the signing of the current bipartite settlement as the pre2002 will definitely get zero benefit this time also. IBA has reconfirmed this in their latest email to UBFU also.

   

Thanks.

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[mohan p]

As per UFBU , considering the cost involved in case of improvement of Family Pension "substantial' increase may happen, if IBA agree.

Retirees demand is improvement in Family pension at  30% uniform to all.

RBI has extended the same years back.

When saying about substantial increase, it is clear that it may not go to 30%, and end up some where between the minimum of 15% to above maximum.

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Mr. Natarajan, how did you come to the conclusion if i may ask, that Family pension, if improved, will not be on the basis of RBI formula? Has IBA or some other party indicated the same or your comment based on assumption?

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[PM]

For Information:


ALL INDIA BANK OFFICERS' ASSOCIATION



Circular No.2/VII/2020

January 20, 2020



To:
ALL UNITS / STATE COMMITTEES



Dear comrades,



AGITATION IS FORCED

ON THE WORKFORCE OF THE BANKING INDUSTRY

FIGHT BACK THE RIGID ATTITUDE OF THE AUTHORITIES.



We are confident that the preparations to make the first phase of two days All India Strike on 31st January 2020 and 1st February 2020, a resounding success by the total workforce.



2. For the past 3 years [ie] 2016-17, 2017-18 and 2018-19, the gross profit booked by the Banks were of Rs.4,64,371 crores and against the gross profit, provisions made to Bad loans etc., were Rs.6,55,832 crores, bearing the net loss of Rs.1,91,461 crores in three years. The bad loan stood at Rs.7,39,541 crores as on 31.03.2019. Though the workforce strained to increase the Gross profit year after year, due to ever increasing bad loans in the Industry the picture emerging was elusive. In reality, it was the failure of the Government of India and RBI to work out serious steps to arrest the trend. Workforce can not be made responsible for the inaction of the authorities at the helm of affairs.



3. The increase in wages is for seeking compensation against the price rise as well as to meet the demands of the various situations in the society. 32 months have elapsed. The progress was in snail’s pace. Our patience has reached the tolerance level. The last resort of the worker is demonstration of the strength through strike and strikes. The inevitable has been forced upon us. But we can not help.



4. Rise as one man against the rigidity of the authorities and make them to realise that they can not throw challenge on the Trade Unions. It will be squarely met.



Make the strike actions a resounding success.



Yours comradely,

/S.NAGARAJAN/

GENERAL SECRETARY

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:00:20 UTC+5:30, PM wrote:
> For Information:
>
> Copy of UFBU circular on call for series of strike from Jan 31st '2020 is attached here below:

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[natarajan pv]

Well said. You hve expressed the opinion of retirees on the sermons of  Mr. Satyanarayanji .

THANKS AND REGARDS,

P.V.NATARAJAN.‌
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Mr. Satyanarayanji:  Kindly stop your preachings.  Please sign off and watch as a mute spectator of happenings like majority of retirees.  It is simply a headache and irritating to read your emails.    Shri Prasad has also advised you recently only who worked really hard day and night to get benefits to many SBM retirees who followed him with total confidence. Did you played any positive role in that?   Anything positive and concrete are never found in your emails.  Recently some blog members wanted your residential address to garland you after the signing of the current bipartite settlement as the pre2002 will definitely get zero benefit this time also. IBA has reconfirmed this in their latest email to UBFU also.

   

Thanks.

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Shri  Somasekhara ji .This time you have said zindabad to IBA,Aiboc and to Aibea. Really it is good indication and we are sure that your inner heart is also expecting updation and improvement in family pension etc. Pl enthuse the striking UFBU leadership and UFBU members and all retirees till our updation and improvement in family pension is achieved through this 11th history making bps. With regards.Somasekhara ji Zindabad. 

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Please refer IBA response to Bank strike. IBA has taken every care to ensure that any word about demands of retirees does not crept in the letter even by mistake,

IBA, AIBOC. AIBEA Zindabad

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Copy of CLC letter on conciliation Dt 27.1.2020 attached for information:

 _ LIC.PC




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> >
> >     Copy of IBA letter to Convenor ,UFBU on bank strike declared is attached here below:
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> >

> > On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:00:20 UTC+5:30, PM  wrote:
> > > For Information:
> > >
> > >         Copy of UFBU circular on call for series of  strike from Jan 31st '2020 is attached here below:
> >

> > 5c

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[natarajan pv]

Dear Mr. Ghosh,

The attachment is the reply. 

THANKS AND REGARDS,

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[PM]

Dear Friends,

Reply given by Convenor,UFBU, to IBA's letter regarding strike call given on 31st Jan,1st Feb '2020 and there after, is furnished here under for information,:

LETTER No.UFBU/2020/02
Date : 24.01.2020



To

Deputy Chief Executive,
Indian Banks’ Association
Mumbai


Dear Sir,

Reg: Ongoing bipartite negotiations for Wage Revision Settlement

Ref: Our Strike Notice and Your Letter No. 8572 dated 21-01-2020


We are in receipt of your above letter and take due note of the contents. We wish to clarify our position as under:

1. It is true that so many meetings, rounds of discussions and negotiations have taken place but our core demand i.e. adequate wage increase has not been resolved by the IBA so far.

2. As early as 12th January, 2016, the Department of Financial Services, Ministry of Finance had advised all the Banks and IBA as under:

“ I am directed to refer to the subject cited above and to request Public Sector Banks to initiate the process of negotiations/next wage revision of the employees and conclude it prior to the effective date i.e. 1.11.2017.”

3. The bipartite talks were commenced by IBA on 2-5-2017 but only on 5.5.2018 i.e. after a period of 12 months, the IBA came forward with their initial offer of 2%. This is proof enough that the delay has been on the part of IBA.

4. Having regard to unabated inflation, increasing workload on the workforce, relativity issues, etc. we have been demanding and expecting a fair and reasonable offer from the IBA so that the issue can be clinched amicably. But IBA had its own plan and had improved the offer to 6% in July 2018 and to 8% in November, 2018, to 10% in February, 2019, to 12% in September, 2019 and now to 12.25% in January, 2020. It took 20 months for IBA to improve their offer to this level knowing fully well that when last time the settlement was at 15% and such lesser offers would not be agreed by the Unions.

5. Hence unless IBA can offer some reasonable and acceptable increase, the issue cannot be clinched so easily as IBA expects.

6. Regarding Performance Linked Incentive, we have repeatedly clarified and IBA too has confirmed that the same would be over and above the wage revision increase agreed at a common level for all the Banks. Now linking it along with the offer on wage revision and giving an impression that the waged revision would be at 12.25% + 2.74% i.e. 14.99% is unfair and hence not proper.

7. Further we have been repeatedly reiterating our demands like adequate additional loading instead of limiting it to 2%, merger of Special Allowance with Basic Pay, 5 Day Banking, defined working hours for officers, updation of pension, etc., but IBA’s standpoint on these issues is totally negative as observed in the recent meeting held on 13-1-2020 also.

8. Even though we are equally eager to resolve the issues and arrive at a mutually acceptable settlement at the earliest, the IBA’s rigid standpoints does not leave any room to do so.

9. Hence, left with no other option, UFBU had to decide to launch agitational programmes and strike action to highlight our just demands. If there is adequate improvement in the offer and change in the approach of the IBA, we shall certainly consider to review our agitational programmes.

Looking forward to the same and thanking you,

Yours faithfully,

S K Bandlish
Convenor,UFBU

[OM PRAKASH SHARMA]

While replying to IBA, Mr Bindlish, convener of UFBU has forgot to mention the demands of the retirees and it is really a poor state of affairs on the part of UFBU. He should have referred about retirees demands also in his letter.  

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

In spite of all these letter exchanges the final out come will be:-

1. Wage revision will be settled around 15% as last BPS.

2. PLI has been agreed by both parties.

3.5 day Banking doubtful

4. Family pension with nominal increase may be possible.

5.  Updation is a mirage.

Bringing all pensioners under Common DA index level of 6352 is out of agenda now.

But some day present leadership and IBA may be replaced with genuine negotiating mechanism and retirees other than those retired before 2002 may get updation. Pre 2002 retirees have to be content with whatever we are getting now.

[JSOMA SHEKARA]

keeping aside all other misc matters UFBU from 2018 itself should have  made

1. wage revision     2. Updation

as major demands and focus should have been only on these issues first.  If UFBU had made strong demand for updation in 2018 iBA would have appointed actuary then and plenty of time would have been available for full fledged discussion on updation. Both wasted 39 meetings  for nothing.

UFBU convenor in its letter to IBA has mentioned Updation as one of misc items.

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[Mohan V.R]

Respected Somasekara ji,

A small correction to your last sentence. The pre Nov 2002 retirees, IF THEY SURVIVE THEN, will continue to get the same paltry pension

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[natarajan pv]

 Very much true.

 last mentioned item before etc....

in the reply to IBA.

UFBU will never do justice as they are not committed nor interested in doing justice to pensioners.

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