12th BPS talks with IBA

[Harihara Subramanian]

Sir,

The IBA is conducting negotiations with UFBU, headed by retirees, on serving employees ' issues. But IBA is declining to talk to Retirees' organisations whose leaders are retired bankers. Is it not a glaring paradox ?

S H Subramanian 

[Chellappa Renganathan]

Sir.IBA's Contention is that they do not have any mandate from the member Banks for discussing Retirees'Grievances in the negotiation Talks.Retirees r asking when they do not have any mandate,how they negotiated for IBA Health Insurance alone.Silence is the reply both from UFBU and IBA..

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[Suryakumaran Nair]

You are absolutely wrong in perspective and concept.  It is the prerogative  of the workforce to decide as to by whom they should be represented before any forum.  Management can not  be allowed to decide the leaders of the trade union movement in any case.  Retirees organisation is a different issue in this regard.

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[Chandrasekaran V]

That is the tragedy.   Reasons can be many.  Important being (1) Union leaders do not groom young activists.   The youngsters are made to focus on transfer/postings of their members, rather than on policy matters etc.  (2) Bright youngsters quit service at an early age for greener pastures, given that the compensation in banking industry gettting lower comparatively.  (3) Seniors , more specifically retired, do not want to give up union posts  .   (3) Management is hand in glove in this respect, as they do not demand that they will negotiate ONLY with the beneficiaries ( serving employees ) and not with those who are no longer in  service.     These are some points. 

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 3:50 PM Harihara Subramanian <canma...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[vrsivaram...@yahoo.in]

Bank unions are worst unions. They behave like the owners of the bank. They are not trade union leaders. 

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[asve...@gmail.com]

Very correctly said

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[Jose Tk]

Sir,

UFBU and IBA  will not favor retirees. However , now, I feel that Finance Minister ( or Finance Ministry ) has taken over the role of UFBU and IBA in respect of bank retirees' issues , hence bank  retirees can expect some favors .

JOSE  T K      Retiree from SBT.

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[Narendra Maller]

yes, they are not trade union leaders. They have become trading union leaders.

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