[Vijay Singh]

[RAMANI NV]

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From: RAMANI NV <ramani...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 8:42 AM
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[Hans Raj Manuja]

Since inception we had a doubt that Bahenji would really help us ! Is IBA more powerful than Bahenji ? The way she requested IBA to consider retirees also as their family members, it was clear that she was shedding crocodile tears !

    She has already made a cut in our DA by reducing the conversion factor from 4.63 to 2.88 in price index ! 

    Let us pray she does not snatch the food that we are eating ! She can do it for the sake of her vote bank !

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[Srinivasan K]

Superb sir! Thanks very much for ur efforts in writing this letter .

Pl send a copy of this to all ufbu leaders without fail.

[Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran]

It is most uncharitable comment on the FM. She only initiated the 100%DA for us, though the IBA implemented it prospectively.

She is the most favourable FMs compared to earlier people.

Even now she says if a settlement is arrived for updation, between IBA and UFBU, she will consider it. We are not able to force our UFBU to insist for updation, how we can hope the FM to take suo moto decision to implement updation. Pressure should be exerted on UFBU to speak to IBA and bring the latter to the negotiating table. But UFBU seems least unbothered. And we blame the FM.

G Ramachandran 

CB-SVRS 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Benefits of retirees are decided through Bilateral negotiations between IBA/Banks and UFBU.

Will UFBU agree if FM passes direct orders ?

IBA and UFBU signed minutes on 08.03.2024 agreeing to consider 1. Amendment to pension regulations to make way for periodical  updation of pension in every settlement. 2. Merger of DA 3. Shifting of base year for DA calculation. Now  18 months have passed and UFBU has not followed up the issue with IBA and not a single reminder to IBA.

Though there is no stay by any court iBA claims Sub Judice and no discussion on Updation and UFBU did not protest. But how come both IBA and UFBU submitted before CLC that discussions are held and  continuing? IBA twice suggested UFBU to submit a proposal for merger of DA? How come UFBU is silent on the issue?

AIBOA is part of UFBU and very well aware that Updation  discussions are stalled because of iBA claim of subjudice.  So why AIBOA instead of convincing IBA to start discussions subject to court verdict. filed one more case in Bombay High Court?

IBA in its reply to CLC stated that Ex gratia review was held during 2024 and 2025 to the mutual satisfaction of Unions and Banks. Did UFBU agree that there will be no ex gratia improvement?

Supply depends on demand. And absolutely there is no demand from UFBU for updation, Merger of DA etc.

So there is no logic in blaming FM.

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[Veera Reddy]

Yes, improvement in family pension did not take place in the minutes of the meeting dated 22/07/2020, but announced by IBA chairman separately, presumably at the instance of Hon'ble FM.

Regards

Veera Reddy P

On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 9:39 AM Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran <chandra...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Updation case filed by AIBOA is in the admission stage and adjourned to Sep 2025.  There is a message from advocate Mr,Sevaram pensioners advocate in Late M C Singhla case. that the said case may not be listed during Aug 2025 as the concerned judge is sitting in Constitution bench. 

IBA and UFBU will wait for the next CLC meeting  but pensioners' issues are not listed in the agenda.

Both AIBRF and AIBPARC instead of finding ways  to resolve the stalemate by considering withdrawing from the case are busy in Dharnas as they were doing for the last 5 years.

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[Hans Raj Manuja]

आपको कष्ट हुआ, उसके लिए माफी चाहते हैं ! शुक्र है और किसी को कष्ट नहीं हुआ ! 

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[Ramani Konnayar]

Dear Shri Somashekar ji,

Whatever you have mentioned are hard truths and realities. As pointed out by you, there is a definite disinclination on the part of UFBU, especially since the signing of BPS, to secure any additional financial benefits for Pensioners, after the increase in Family pension, 100% DA to pre 2002 pensioners and ex-gratia were granted. To cite an example, even the anomaly in ex-gratia for the pre 2002 group is yet to be rectified, although none other than Sri CHV himself, gave an assurance, as far back as in April 2024 that IBA would soon be issuing a circular to banks to calculate the ex-gratia based on 100% DA for October 2022 notionally.

The reasons for this lackadaisical attitude are too obvious to be explained.

K N Ramani 

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[Hans Raj Manuja]

गोपालकृष्णन जी, आपको बधाई हो आपको 100% DA तो बहिन जी ने दे दिया; आपके लिए तो उनका गुणगान करना बनता है ! और भी आप जैसे बहुत से सेवानिवृत्त भाईयों को फायदा हुआ,  हमें आपके लिए खुशी है ! उनसे कह कर कुछ फायदा हमारा करवा दो !

[Veera Reddy]

Dear Friends,

Nowadays, it's becoming difficult to get the agreed settlements implemented in true spirit.

While anomalies are reported in implementation of another option for pension to resignees, it is not implemented in few banks

especially in private sector banks though well documented in the 12th BPS/9th Joint Note dated 08/03/2024 while Ex gratia was consented on 26/08/2024 though initially listed in residual issues. 

Helplessly waiting for the private bank unions convention and its outcome , simply to know what should be done.

Regards

Veera Reddy P

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[kushal mukhoti]

 " Faults are thick where love is thin".  

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[Hans Raj Manuja]

In my opinion, pension updation through court will not happen !  It is a Bipartite Settlement, mutually agreed by two parties with their free will and without any outside pressure, why will the court involve itself unless there is violation of the terms of the agreement by one party ? Some friends write that the BP allows updation but it is not true ! 

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