ANSWERS TO 12 QUESTIONS OF MR D S MURTHY

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Niranjan Cn

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Mar 12, 2025, 12:12:58โ€ฏAM3/12/25
to Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli

Dear Friends,

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Mr. D S Murthy, fellow pensioner from Hyderabad โ€“ has raised various questions and sought answers.ย  An attempt has been made to answer each and every question raised by him.ย  We cannot base arguments in court based on conjectures and half truths.ย  The case has to be fought on facts and referring to Judgements with relevant paragraphs/context.ย  It is not a joke to present a case in SC without substance and win the case. Singlas case has been dismissed by Single Judge and then appealย also dismissed by Division Bench of Chandigarh High Court. At present SLP has been filed at SC against the dismissal - for information.

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The Bank reitrees are eagerly waiting for Pension Revision is overdue and it has to come through.ย  I am sure and pray for early revision of pension to all.

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We got

a)ย ย ย ย  Family Pension Revision

b)ย ย ย  100 % DA

c)ย ย ย ย  Pension Option to resignees

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All the above, we got without going to court, without any corresponding Pension Regulation ย and without proving the availability of sufficient funds in Pension Funds.ย  This should be the eye opener and similarly โ€“ the Pension Revision also has to take place.

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Earnest request to MR. Murthy Sir, to go through the clarity/answers provided to each of questions.ย  Any further clarity is required โ€“ feel free to raise the issue/query.ย  I am sure, Murthygaaru โ€“ will read the Pension Regulations, various judgements in full before quoting them.ย 

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Here are the answers/clarity to various questions of MR. D S Murthygaaru.

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Questions posed by Mr D S Murthy

ย Clarity/Answers โ€“ provided

(1)Why Updation of Pensionย  is not offered to PSB Pensionersย  for the last three decades while in every other sections/sectors, Updation of Pension is ensured along with every wage revision to the respective employees?.ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

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Pensions are paid as per pension regulations of respective banks.ย  Kindly refer Regulations and point out which part of Regulations deals with Updation and how updation to be done.ย  Please explain

(2)Why the Legally binding obligation in the MOS dt 29 10 1993 under Section 2(p) and Section 18(1) of the ID Act 1947 and Rule 58 ofย  of the ID(Central) Rules 1957 including DA at par with RBI Pensioners and Updation of Pension on RBI lines have not been complied with, especially when the Apex Courthave been repeatedly affirming through various judgements the following like," The right under contract cannot be taken away and they become enforceable by a court of law" ; "It's binding effect cannot be changedย  on the basis of what parties choose to say afterwards, nor them can be permitted to wriggle out .The contract is required to to be read as a whole" .(CA No 2463/2015 ,dated 02 03 2020 "Asst General Manager SBI &Ors vs Radhey Shyam Pandey" three judges Bench).ย ย  " The true construction of a contract must depend upon the import of words used and not upon what the parties choose to say afterwards.Nor does subsequent conduct of the parties in the performance of the contract affects the true effect of the clear and unambiguous words used in contractย  The nature and purpose of the contractย  is an important guide in ascertaining the intention of the parties.( Bank of India &Anr vs K .Mohandas &Ors (2009) 5 SCC 313.).ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

Please read MOS dated 29-10-1993 and reproduce the relevant clause โ€“ which you are referring to.

In Singlas case, this has been dealt with / discussed in detail in Chandigarh High Court while dismissing the Writ Petition.ย  Please read the judgement , and argue if any fresh points if you have.

(3) ๐–๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Œ๐Ž๐’ ๐๐ญ 29 10 1993ย  ๐š๐ง๐ ๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐‘๐ž๐ ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ“ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ๐ ๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐š๐๐ž ๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐œ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐š๐œ๐œ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐ฒ,๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ž๐ช๐ฎ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐›๐ข๐ง๐๐ข๐ง๐  ๐จ๐ง ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ง๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐š๐ฐ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ง๐จ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ž ๐š๐ญ๐ญ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐ฆ๐š๐๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ž๐œ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฌ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ซ? ๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ฏ๐š๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Œ๐Ž๐’ ๐a๐ญed

ย 29 10 1993 ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฌ๐ž ๐ฒ๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ฌ ๐œ๐š๐ง๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐›๐ž ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐›๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ž๐œ๐ข๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ƒ๐…๐’ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐†๐Ž๐ˆ ๐ก๐š๐ ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž๐ง ๐ข๐ญ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐š๐ฌ๐ข๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ž๐ฑ๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐๐ข๐ง๐  ๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐š๐ซ๐ฒ ๐›๐ž๐ง๐ž๐Ÿ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฒ๐ž๐ž๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐‘๐‘๐๐ฌ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐ž๐ซ '๐ฌ ๐š๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ข๐๐š๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฅ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐€๐ฉ๐ž๐ฑ ๐‚๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ง๐ž๐œ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‚๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐ž๐ฉ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ญ.

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Please refer to Chandigargh Judgements which explains the details regarding the issues with updation.

RRB case was totally different in contextย  and cannot be compared here.ย  Further in RRB also updtion has not taken place.

(4).When the Apex Court through various judgements including,Deokinandan Prasad vsย  State of Bihar: DS Nakara &Ors vs UOI; State of Rajasthan vs Mahendra Nath Sharma: etc have affirmed that Pension is a deferred wages and must be updatedย  along with every Wage revision for serving employees ,why no steps have been taken by IBA/DFS in this regard so far?

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ยฅou are misquoting Nakras case.ย  Nakras case was nothing to do with Pension Updation.

If you find any para โ€“ please refer the same and discuss for getting clarity.

Please quote the relavant para of the judgement where it is said โ€œPension must be updated along with every wage revisionโ€.ย  Be specific in your comments with reference.

(5) When the Parliamentary Committee on Sub ordinate Legislation (Lok Sabha) in the year 2017, recommended Pension Updation for RBI employees ,butย  it was denied by the Ministry of Finance citing the reason that, in case it was done for RBI employees then similar demandย  would be raised by PSB retirees,then whyย  Updation is denied now to PSB retirees while the same is already extended to RBI retirees?

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A)ย ย ย  Parlimentary committee recommendations are not binding.

B)ย ย ย  It was denied that stating that the demand will come from PSBs, and further read the reply to Parlimentary committee recommendations for better understanding.

C)ย ย ย  Quote full โ€“ with para number/material for clarity always

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ย (6).What was the intention in amending Rule 35(1) of Pension Regulations ,as obtaining now,by clearly substituting the words "will be" with"shall be " and adding "Wherever applicable" for Updation of Pension,if not for making it applicable for all Pensioners uniformly. Otherwise,what is the extra improvement made through this amendment?ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

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Unfortunately, Regulation 35(1) amendments has to be read alongwith annexure.

In the amendment, the period beyond 1993 was referred.ย  In view of the above, the from and to period was removed as it was inconsistent with the amended Anx 1.

Selective quoting and misguiding is not desirable โ€“ as it does not serve any pupose.

When there is the word Updationย  in the Rule 35(1)of Pension Regulations,how can IBA declare in its affidavit filed in SC that there is no provision for Updation in the Pension Regulations?.Is it not Perjury inviting Contempt ofย  Court? And how do IBA explain the reference to Rule 35(1) of Pension Regulationsย  by the Apex Court in CA No.5525/2012 dtd. 13 02 2018 ," Bank of Baroda vs G.Palani' vide para 9 of the judgement, especially when the Courtย  says the same is "extracted" from the Pension Regulations?

Please read the Regulation (not Rule) 35(1) in full.ย  Updation to be done as per annexure 1.ย  Please quote which part of annexure 1 is not implemented by the Bank/

Again misquoting of Palanis Judgmentment.ย  Please reproduce โ€“ the said para 9 of the Palanis Judgement of supreme court and explain its relevance.

8).When various Petitioners quote the the Pension Fund position of various Banks as more than sufficient to meet the increasing cost of Updation based on the respective Accounts Statements,how do IBA respond to their argumentsย  in this regard?ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

This statement exposes and shows the poor and totally misunderstanding of the Pension Fund and its working.

Earnest request โ€“ atleast read your Bank Annual Report โ€“ with regard to Pension Fund and provisions and comment.ย  No Bank will make/expected to provide/transfer more funds than required

(9).When the Apex Court in a few judgements have already affirmed that lack of funds cannot be a reason for not extending the Pensionary benefits to the retirees,since once the Employer implements the Pension scheme in an Organisation ,it is for that Employer to find adequate resources to meet the consequential future requirements in this regard,howย  IBA/DFS can argue lack of funds for denying Updation of Pension ?In their recent judgement in" Punjab State Co-operative Agricultural Development Bank Ltd vasthe Registrar Co-operative Societies &Ors"---CA N o 297-298/2022ย  dt of judgement

ย 11 12 2022 affirmed that,

ย " ๐ˆ๐ง ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ฏ๐ข๐ž๐ฐ, ๐ง๐จ๐ง-๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ข๐š๐ฅ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐›๐ž ๐š ๐๐ž๐Ÿ๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ง๐ญ ๐๐š๐ง๐ค ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฒ๐ž๐ž๐ฌ,๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ข๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐ฌ๐จ๐œ๐ข๐จ- ๐ž๐œ๐จ๐ง๐จ๐ฆ๐ข๐œ ๐ฌ๐ž๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ.๐ˆ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐š๐ง ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐จ๐ฅ๐ ๐š๐ ๐ž,๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐ข๐จ๐๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐š๐ฒ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฌ๐ก๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฆ๐š๐ข๐ง ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž๐.๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ข๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฉ๐š๐ข๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐š ๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐ฒ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐œ๐š๐ง ๐›๐ž ๐ฆ๐š๐๐ž ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฒ๐ž๐ž๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ญ๐ž๐œ๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฏ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ. ๐“๐ก๐ž ๐‚๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐จ๐›๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ž ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐š ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ’ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐œ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐œ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐š๐ซ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ž๐œ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐› ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐š๐ญ๐ž ๐‹๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐š๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐๐š๐ง๐ค ๐ญ๐จ๐จ๐ค ๐š ๐œ๐š๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐œ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐š๐Ÿ๐ญ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐†๐จ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ง๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ,๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐๐ฎ๐œ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฌ๐œ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ๐ž,๐ข๐ญ ๐œ๐š๐ง ๐›๐ž ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ž๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐š๐ฎ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐š๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐œ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฉ๐š๐ฒ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ข๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ฌ.". ๐’๐ข๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐ซ ๐š๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ซ๐ฆ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐š๐ฅ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐š๐๐ž ๐›๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‡๐จ๐ง.๐’๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž ๐‚๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐œ๐ก ๐š๐ฌ,(๐Ÿ) ๐Š๐š๐ฉ๐ข๐ฅ๐š ๐‡๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ซ๐š๐ง๐ข ๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐’๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ข๐ก๐š๐ซ,(๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ‘) ๐Ÿ” ๐’๐‚๐‚ ๐Ÿ; (๐Ÿ). ๐‘๐š๐ญ๐ฅ๐š๐ฆ ๐Œ๐ฎ๐ง๐ข๐œ๐ข๐ฉ๐š๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐•๐š๐ซ๐๐ข๐œ๐ก๐š๐ง๐(๐Ÿ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ–๐ŸŽ) ๐Ÿ’ ๐’๐‚๐‚ ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ(๐Ÿ‘)๐ ๐‹.๐–๐š๐๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐š ๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐”๐ง๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ง๐๐ข๐š - ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ(๐Ÿ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ”) ๐’๐‚ย  ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ—.

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Totally out of context.ย  It is responsibility of the Bank to pay the pension irrespective of its financial position.

Anyone โ€“ pension was denied when banks were making loses (2015-18) ?

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Pension Revision is a different issue.ย 

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ย (10).When the Apex Court has clearly affirmed in various judgements that in case of any dispute over a particular clause/section of a particular statute,the interpretation should be in favour of the employees. eg.the judgement in," The State of Rajasthan &Ors vs O.P Gupta --

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ย ๐‚๐€ ๐๐จ.๐Ÿ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’/๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ ๐๐ญ 19 09 2022 ๐“๐ก๐ž ๐‚๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ž ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐šย  ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ– ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐›๐ฌ๐ž๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ: ๐ˆ๐“ ๐ˆ๐’ ๐’๐„๐“๐“๐‹๐„๐ƒ ๐‹๐€๐– ๐“๐‡๐€๐“ ๐–๐‡๐„๐ ๐…๐ˆ๐๐€๐๐‚๐ˆ๐€๐‹ ๐‘๐”๐‹๐„๐’ ๐…๐‘๐€๐Œ๐„๐ƒ ๐๐˜ ๐“๐‡๐„ ๐†๐Ž๐•๐„๐‘๐๐Œ๐„๐๐“ ๐’๐”๐‚๐‡ ๐€๐’๐‘๐”๐‹๐„ ๐๐„๐๐’๐ˆ๐Ž๐ ๐‘๐”๐‹๐„ ๐€๐‘๐„ ๐‚๐€๐๐€๐๐‹๐„ ๐Ž๐… ๐Œ๐Ž๐‘๐„ ๐“๐‡๐€๐ ๐Ž๐๐„,ย  ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐˜พ๐™Š๐™๐™๐™ ๐™Ž๐™ƒ๐™Š๐™’ ๐™‡๐™€๐˜ผ๐™‰ ๐™๐™Š๐™’๐˜ผ๐™๐˜ฟ๐™Ž ๐™๐™ƒ๐˜ผ๐™ ๐™„๐™‰๐™๐™€๐™๐™‹๐™๐™€๐™๐˜ผ๐™๐™„๐™Š๐™‰ ๐™’๐™ƒ๐™„๐˜พ๐™ƒ ๐™‚๐™Š๐™€๐™Ž ๐™„๐™‰ ๐™๐˜ผ๐™‘๐™Š๐™๐™ ๐™Š๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™€๐™ˆ๐™‹๐™‡๐™Š๐™”๐™€๐™€๐™Ž."

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ย  ๐“๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ก๐จ๐ฐ ๐œ๐š๐ง ๐ˆ๐๐€ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ญ/ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐‘๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ž ๐๐จ ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ“(๐Ÿ) ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐‘๐ž๐ ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐š๐ ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฒ๐ž๐ž๐ฌ/๐๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ?

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Please quote what are the two interpretations which are there with regard to 35(1) ?

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And explain โ€“ which one has to be taken and why ?

(Please the Regulation 35 โ€“ in total with anx for better understanding)

(11).When the Hon.Supreme Court had time and again affirmed and reaffirmed that there cannot be a class within the homogeneous class of Pensioners and there cannot be any sort of discrimination between different segments of the same homogeneous classย  by arbitrarily fixing a date ,how can IBA fix different formula for Basic Pension as well as DA pattern?ย  eg Apex Court judgement in," Col.B.J.Akkara(Retd) vsย  Govt of India--(2006) 11 SCC 709 date of judgement 10 10 2006 vide Para 20 says that computation of Pension cannot be by different formula thereby applyinganย  unequal treatment on the ground that some retired earlier and some retired later.

ย 

Please read Regulation 37 for understanding.ย  The retirees under different settlements are paid DA differently.ย  Please quote with example โ€“ where the IBA has fixed different formula for basic pension as well as DA Pattern ?

Further,ย  anywhere in prayer of Singlas case โ€“ this has come up ?

Is it relevant to Singlas case ?ย  Please pond over !!

(12)When the Apex Court had affirmed that irrespective of the date of retirement,a pensioner should receive a Basic Pension based on at least equivalentย  to 50 percent of the corresponding Basic Pay in the running Pay scale for serving employees in relation to the Basic Pay of the Pensioner at the time of retirement, how can IBA ignore the binding verdict of the Apex Court.eg. SC judgement in ,"State of Rajasthan vs Mahendra Nathย  Sharma-CA No.1123/2015 dt of judgement

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Our Pensions are paid as per the Pension Regulations.ย  Please quote which of the Regulations not implemented by the IBA โ€“ with an example โ€“ if any.

Case is quoted out of contextโ€ฆ.

Please quote the full para of the judgement โ€“ for clarity with the issues raised therein.

(13). IBA had earlier written to Shri. R.N.Godbole , on Pension Scheme, vide their letterย  No.PO/DB/566 D/G(2)/1327 dt 17/12/1993 that,inter alia, that,

ย " ๐˜ผ๐™จ ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช ๐™–๐™ง๐™š ๐™–๐™ฌ๐™–๐™ง๐™š , ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™จ๐™˜๐™๐™š๐™ข๐™š ๐™๐™–๐™จ ๐™—๐™š๐™š๐™ฃ ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ค๐™™๐™ช๐™˜๐™š๐™™ ๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ก๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™š๐™จ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฅ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™จ๐™˜๐™๐™š๐™ข๐™š ๐™–๐™ซ๐™–๐™ž๐™ก๐™–๐™—๐™ก๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐˜พ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™–๐™ก ๐™‚๐™ค๐™ซ๐™š๐™ง๐™ฃ๐™ข๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ ๐™€๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™ก๐™ค๐™ฎ๐™š๐™š๐™จ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™š๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™ก๐™ค๐™ฎ๐™š๐™š๐™จ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™๐™š๐™จ๐™š๐™ง๐™ซ๐™š ๐˜ฝ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™  ๐™ค๐™› ๐™„๐™ฃ๐™™๐™ž๐™–",and again vide their letter No.PD/DB/ 566D/G(2) dated 16 03 1994ย  addressed to Shri RN.Godbole inter alia, informed that -" ๐™„๐™‰ ๐™‘๐™„๐™€๐™’ ๐™Š๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™๐˜ผ๐˜พ๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐˜ผ๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™€๐™‰๐™๐™„๐™๐™€ ๐™Ž๐˜พ๐™ƒ๐™€๐™ˆ๐™€ ๐™„๐™Ž ๐™‹๐˜ผ๐™๐™๐™€๐™๐™‰๐™€๐˜ฟ ๐™Š๐™‰ ๐™‡๐™„๐™‰๐™€๐™Ž ๐™Š๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™๐™€๐™Ž๐™€๐™๐™‘๐™€ ๐˜ฝ๐˜ผ๐™‰๐™† ๐™Š๐™ ๐™„๐™‰๐˜ฟ๐™„๐˜ผ ๐˜ฟ๐™€๐˜ผ๐™๐™‰๐™€๐™Ž๐™Ž ๐™๐™Š๐™๐™ˆ๐™๐™‡๐˜ผ, ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™‹๐™€๐™‰๐™Ž๐™„๐™Š๐™‰ ๐™๐™€๐™‚๐™๐™‡๐˜ผ๐™๐™„๐™Š๐™‰๐™Ž ๐™’๐™„๐™‡๐™‡ ๐˜ฝ๐™€ ๐˜ผ๐™Ž ๐™‹๐™€๐™ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™‹๐™๐™Š๐™‘๐™„๐™Ž๐™„๐™Š๐™‰๐™Ž ๐™„๐™‰ ๐™๐™ƒ๐™€ ๐™๐™€๐™Ž๐™€๐™๐™‘๐™€ ๐˜ฝ๐˜ผ๐™‰๐™† ๐™Š๐™ ๐™„๐™‰๐˜ฟ๐™„๐˜ผ ๐™‹๐™€๐™‰๐™Ž๐™„๐™Š๐™‰ ๐™๐™€๐™‚๐™๐™‡๐˜ผ๐™๐™„๐™Š๐™‰๐™Ž"

ย 

It was a fact in 1994 โ€“ the Pension Scheme was drawn on the lines existed at that time in RBI.ย  Any dispute ? please clarify.

ย 

It is on the lines of RBI at the time of implementation.ย  There was no commitment โ€“ for future changes in RBI/Central Government โ€“ for information.

ย 

Further, for your kind information โ€“ 8088 points not yet implemented for anyone in RBI.ย  Please check facts.

ย 

Hope, this will clarify Mr. Murthy DSย  gaaru and our retiree friends.ย  Any pointwise view points/discussion with relavent material is appreciated. (corrections/improvements are welcome)

ย 

Mr. Murthygaaru โ€“ having made an attempt to answer all your questions โ€“ clarify the position.

ย 

Niranjanย 

Vijay Singh

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Sir your achievements point no 2ย  half hearted achievment.because pension option not given to pension optee resignees it's given only those who not opted pension option .in fact 30% resignees covered,70% yet fiting in various courts.


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Surendra Hissaria

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Dear Sir,

Pl guide whether a Bank Pensioner not satisfied with his/her Bank may draw pension through other PSU or any private Bank as per Pension regulations.
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MOHAN P

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Yes, pensioners can draw their pensions from other banks, including private banks, in India, provided the bank is authorized for pension disbursement.ย You can transfer your pension account to another authorized bank branch or even to another authorized bank.ย 

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Hans Raj Manuja

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You will lose benefit of 1% extra interest !

On Sat, 15 Mar, 2025, 12:27โ€ฏpm Surendra Hissaria, <skhis...@gmail.com> wrote:
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