Fwd: Document from S R Rajaraman

[S.R. Rajaraman]

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From: S.R. Rajaraman <srraj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 18:20

NALSA INTERVENES IN PENSION ISSUES 

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S R RAJARAMAN

[Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam]

It is misleading to state that NALSA's direction is direction of Supreme Court.  The headline seems to be erroneous. 

NALSA functions from the premises of Supreme Court.  

S Kalyanasundaram 

[JSOMA SHEKARA]

NALSA has not recommended anything but only said 'take appropriate action." DFS will give a standard stock reply as is being done in the past  two decades.

The Only solution is that IBA has to submit a proposal to DFS.

Nothing else will work.

Of late I am getting doubts whether AIBOC and AIBEA preventing IBA to proceed in the matter.

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[Vidya Krishnamachar]

Is there anybody in support of me if I sit for HUNGER UNTO DEATH IN DELHI FOR ACHIEVING PENSION UPDATION. Only moral support. I will sit for FAST UNTO DEATH for PENSION UPDATION. ARRANGEMENTS are to be made in Delhi for my HUNGER STRIKE. Anybody can help me I am in for taking this step.

Vidya S K

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[P. S. SATYANARAYANA]

Referring to Sri Soma Shekara Sir's message:

I do not think IBA can do any thing against the wishes of Ministry of Finance, or remain unresponsive to the wishes of MoF. 

When MoF (of course, as per the wishes of Finance Minister) really, sincerely, genuinely and seriously wants IBA to do certain things, IBA does not have any option except to obey.

AIBEA, AIBOC (or any other) cannot stop IBA, when IBA is doing what MoF expects it to do. Let us recollect how AIBEA and AIBOC were made to sign  11th BPS on that day.

Coming to our pension updation, we do not know exactly what has been happening till now, what is the latest position and what is going to unfold in the near future.

The purpose of extending the tenure of Sri Mallikarjuna Rao and forming a special Committee of IBA on this issue cannot produce a Nil and negative result.

Let us wait patiently for some more time, with positive mind.

-- P. S. SATYANARAYANA.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

I have expressed my opinion based on the attitude of UFBU leaders since the last few months. On 25th August 2020 UFBU leaders said they will meet the new IBA chairman and discuss issues in person. They addressed a letter to this effect on 3rd Sep. Again on 12th Nov UFBU leaders had a meeting and repeated the same assurance and again addressed a letter .

So IBA did not respond to their letters.( We must also note that there is no proof that UFBU has actually sent such letters to IBA or simply circulated the same). So what is the next option for UFBU?

There is difference between IBA scheduling a BPS meeting/inviting UFBU leaders

and UFBU leaders seeking appointment to meet  IBA chairman and lodge protest for undue delay in resolving issues.

Even after meeting the IBA chairman, things do not move forward, UFBU leaders can take a delegation to FM and discuss the issue.

Provided UFBU leaders are serious about the Updation issue.

Even retired organization leaders have met the new IBA chairman and submitted a memorandum. Them what prevents UFBU leaders to meet new IBA chairman and find out reasons for delay in the Updation process unless they are purposefully avoiding the same.

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[sastry n s]

It is pertinent to note that the path of agitation is now thrust upon us by all concerned. It is better we wait till March-end. If the issues are not resolved even by  then, let us all collectively decide the future course of action instead of individual preferences. Let the seniors like Mr Prasad decide lest we may falter. I am sure, all our friends will support our future course of action.

[Shrinivas Parkar]

Respected Vidya Krishnamchar, I am ready to support financially for the  expenses to be incurred for Hunger Strike at Delhi and also I may participate physically. 

I feel that we may take assistance and support of Hon'ble Chief Minister of Delhi Respected Arvind Kejariwal Sir, who is also National Conveyor of Aam Aadmi Party. 

Respected Arvind Kejariwal Sir can be contacted on Phone no. 01123392020/ 01123392030 or by email address "cmd...@nic.in". Respected Kejariwal Sir may also be contacted through Twitter, Facebook or Instagram. 

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[Srirama Murti]

Dear Shri Vidya Krishnamachar,

Greetings. For us Bank Retirees , we look upon you as our Comrade and for us your Life is valuable ,for that 

matter any Bank Retiree employee's Life is precious for all of us.

So we request you not to take extreme step of hunger strike. Only democracy is on Paper in India, In practice,

no values for human life in our Country..Every finance minister down the line from Morarji Desai to Pranab Mukherjee

(Pranab dada) to Harward educated Chidambaram are against the Bank employees.Even the Media is against

the bank men. Only thing is present finance minister Smt. Nirmala Sitha Raman has given a ray of hope by her

soft words towards us,Bank retirees. So still we are hoping for the good to come.It will take some more days,weeks,

months .. so on ,so on. We know that Shri Prakash Javadekar, the Cabinet Minister in Mody Govt (he was former

Bank employee, in Bank of Maharashtra) took representatives of Bank retirees to Late Arun Jaitley, who paid 

Lip sympathy. So even Javadekar nowadays is silent on the genuine grievances of bank retirees.

It is too late to adopt measures like Hunger strike. The hunger strike, dharnas lost all its importance long long ago.

We request you to scrap the idea of sitting for hunger strike. We bank retirees are spent force,. All our energies are

spent to the full extent without leaving any balance of energy. The country has used our services maximum ,but the

so called Retirees unions and the DFS and ministers shed crocodile tears saying bank pensioners are like warriors

in nation build up. This is all ever running music. The society at large still believes the Cash and other deposits are

with the serving Bank employees and the label carried by Bank emplyees and Bank retirees is working as detrimental

to the interests of Bank men in India.. For example once it happened in undivided Andhra Pradesh  like this.

A cashier in course of the day went to a Provisions shop(Kirana shop) to purchase Colgate tooth paste. the Kirana

merchant told the double of the actual price. this Cashier asked why the double price, the Kirana merchant laughed and

exclaimed " You are holding large Cash with you whenever I visit the Branch. What you will do with that amount of cash.

Can't you bear the amount I mentioned."

So it is same case with every citizen other than the Bank employees. So the logic is extended to Bank retirees as well

by the powers be including large number of people's representatives , finance ministers and even our own brothers and

kith and kin of Bank Retirees.Here in India we are facing peculiar situation where the Bank employee 

/retiree employee is not believed by his spouse who feels like the kirana merchant , feels her spouse still holds lot of

Cash and all is portrayed differently.SO better to leave our problems to Hope. as our colleagues freuently say

'HOPE IS WEAPON. SURVIVAL IS VICTORY., 

With Regards to all,

S.S.R.Murthy

(Singampalli Sri Rama Murthy)

ex-canara bank. member of this Blog,

mobile ph; +91 9391147762

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[Nagaraju Kakani]

Sairam, If the occassion arises let us do on our own.But donot join hands with other political  bosses to irritate the govt and spoil the dish, finally they are the ones, 

who have to approve, though we may not like them for the delay.

Let us Have patience to wait till the Budget session or the SC verdict in Feb.

This is my personal opinion.

With regards,

Nagaraju kakani

Hyderabad.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Pension Updation is just One Phone Call Away. Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam to pick the Phone and ask IBA Chairman, "I want Draft Amendment to PSU Bank Pension Regulations updating PSU Bank Pension as per RBI Formula. Send it. I will approve it. Implement it.". That's All. Is this impossible? More or less, same procedure was adopted for Recent Enhancement of Family Pension, where other procedure was just formality.

[Vidya Krishnamachar]

Respected fellow retirees

Greetings from Vidya. Thanks for all the input. I have lived my life. Had to struggle for pension as I retired under EXIT OPTION SCHEME. I have fought for principles and though belated, have received benefits due. As such, no qualms. Atleast the eyes will open to the general public that our plight is genuine.

The arrangements are to be made by the facilitators. Fasting is not a problem for me I am just 60. Can bear anything for the good of community.

Almighty will definitely bestow its favours. 

If my commitment is taken, I assure that we will be able to definitely succeed. Choice is left to fellow retirees to facilitate in case we have to resort. I am just a call away. 9513533443/7795899056

Vidya S K

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

As we are aware, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is retiring as PNB Chairman by end of this Month. Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is also Chairman of High Powered Committee formed by DFS & IBA specifically for Pension Revision, as desired by Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. I am sure that well before his retirement, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may submit a very Positive Pension Updation Proposal with 100% DA to Pre-2002 Retirees, as a result of which act of kindness, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may enjoy a very Happy, Healthy and Peaceful Retired Life with Blessings of 6 lakhs Bank Retirees.       

[Hans Raj Manuja]

Hope sustains life !

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, 3:44 pm 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

As we are aware, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is retiring as PNB Chairman by end of this Month. Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is also Chairman of High Powered Committee formed by DFS & IBA specifically for Pension Revision, as desired by Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. I am sure that well before his retirement, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may submit a very Positive Pension Updation Proposal with 100% DA to Pre-2002 Retirees, as a result of which act of kindness, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may enjoy a very Happy, Healthy and Peaceful Retired Life with Blessings of 6 lakhs Bank Retirees.       

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[Sanjay J]

I too was expecting  Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir  would end the decades-long ordeal of pensioners.

Unfortunately,   Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir has proved himself to be the chip off the old block.

It is a mystery to me what Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir had been doing all these days occupying the seat of the Chairman of a high powered committee.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 2:14 AM 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

As we are aware, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is retiring as PNB Chairman by end of this Month. Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir is also Chairman of High Powered Committee formed by DFS & IBA specifically for Pension Revision, as desired by Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. I am sure that well before his retirement, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may submit a very Positive Pension Updation Proposal with 100% DA to Pre-2002 Retirees, as a result of which act of kindness, Respected Mallkarjuna Rao Sir may enjoy a very Happy, Healthy and Peaceful Retired Life with Blessings of 6 lakhs Bank Retirees.       

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[sastry n s]

We should thank God if our issues are not dragged by UFBU in the meanwhile through their professional maneuvers till next Bipartite Settlement. The Govt. cannot afford to displease them during election year.

It appears we are back to square one and into the hands of UFBU.

If anything positive materializes early, it will only  be by the grace of God. Let us pray God for justice.

[Manoharrao Mamidi]

SRI.MALLIKARJUN RAO JI ,(M.D.EX- ALLAHABAD

 BANK) WILL DEFINITELY

 SUBMIT WITHOUT FAIL, PRIOR TO DATE OF

 EXPIRY....

OF ALL M D' S OF BANKS, HE IS THE MOST

 EFFICIENT ,HONEST & HARD WORKING.

HIS REPORT "IN FAVOUR OF UPDATION

&  DA FOR PRE RETIREES OF YR .2002 

 WILL BE

 SUBMITTED 

ON 31ST JANUARY.

THIS WILL BE A BOLT OUT OF THE BLUE (SKY).

FOR ALL UNION  LEADERS & BANK PENSIONERS.

HAVE PATIENCE AND HOPE .

Thanks.

M.M.RAO

EX- ALLAHABAD BANK

PR- INDIAN BANK.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

I was extremely happy to read in yesterday’s Newspaper that Union Bank of India, under Chairmanship of Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, won the Prestigious “Infosys Finacle Innovation” Runner Up Award 2021 for “Application Programming Interface Management” under category of “Process Innovation”. It was mentioned in the Newspaper that this is an International Award. As an Indian, I am proud of Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir. We are aware that Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir was Chairman of IBA from October 2020 to October 2021. I am unable to understand that how such intelligent, Master of Information Technology and International Award Winner Person namely Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, even in reasonable time of 12 months, could not forward Pension Updation Proposal for the Approval of Hon’ble Finance Minister Most Respected Smt. Nirmala Sitaraman Madam, as directed personally to him by Hon’ble Finance Minister of India namely Most Respected Smt. Nirmala Sitaraman Madam on 30^th October 2020 and peacefully vacates his Office as IBA Chairman after expiry of his Tenor of One year upto October 2021. Is the Job of Forwarding Pension Updation Proposal more Difficult than the Job appearing to be performed by Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, which made his Bank to win the above stated International Award?

[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Why should we proud of these  awards when this person could not even calculate pension updation cost during his tenure

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I was extremely happy to read in yesterday’s Newspaper that Union Bank of India, under Chairmanship of Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, won the Prestigious “Infosys Finacle Innovation” Runner Up Award 2021 for “Application Programming Interface Management” under category of “Process Innovation”. It was mentioned in the Newspaper that this is an International Award. As an Indian, I am proud of Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir. We are aware that Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir was Chairman of IBA from October 2020 to October 2021. I am unable to understand that how such intelligent, Master of Information Technology and International Award Winner Person namely Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, even in reasonable time of 12 months, could not forward Pension Updation Proposal for the Approval of Hon’ble Finance Minister Most Respected Smt. Nirmala Sitaraman Madam, as directed personally to him by Hon’ble Finance Minister of India namely Most Respected Smt. Nirmala Sitaraman Madam on 30^th October 2020 and peacefully vacates his Office as IBA Chairman after expiry of his Tenor of One year upto October 2021. Is the Job of Forwarding Pension Updation Proposal more Difficult than the Job appearing to be performed by Respected Raj Kiran Rai Sir, which made his Bank to win the above stated International Award?

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[Parvatam Veera Bhadra Swamy]

Thank you so much sir,  for giving us hopeful news by January 31st of 2022. 

It's hardly another 10 days and let us wait for the good news patiently. 

Pvbswamy 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Do not give false hopes. If Mallikarjun Rao is going to submit a final report before 31st Jan 2022, what is the need for the reconstituting committee.

Maybe the committee is an eye wash or not allowed to function. If this work was allotted to any of the three software giants WIPRO, INFOSYS or TCS they would finish the job in 15-20 days.

Will Banks ask the IBA why the report could not be submitted even after 6 months?

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Till now, we were not even knowing the Developments in our Pension Updation Matter. Thanks to Hon'ble Supreme Court that at least we got authentic information that even after 14 months, IBA has not prepared any Pension Updation Proposal, as directed by Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam on 30th October 2020. 

During last few months, Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam has been kind enough to allow Bank Retirees, either directly or through various Hon'ble MPs, to meet her for our Pension Updation Matter. It is learnt that in every such 8 to 9 Meetings, Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam has assured to resolve the issue. 

The names of Hon'ble MPs who met Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam for our Pension Updation Matter are, Respected Smt Angadi from Belgavi, Respected Smt Navneet Rana from Amaravati, Respected Smt. Aparajita Sarangi from Orrissa, Respected Shri Teja Surya from Karnataka, Respected Shri Elangovan from Tamilnadu etc. Also AIBRF,  Retirees from Kerala Retirees Association and Ladies Group from Bengaloru (twice) have also met Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam directly. 

I appeal to all the above to once again meet Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam with above Authentic Information and request her to put her Personal Attention, without which Commitment of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam, declared in Public Domain 14 months back,  may not be fulfilled. 

[Shrinivas Parkar]

We have to specifically bring to kind attention of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam that now, through Authenticated Source of Hon'ble Supreme Court, we have come to know that Pension Updation Proposal is not even prepared at IBA Level, despite her instruction given 15 months back. 

[Raj Venkat]

They are waiting for the disappearance from the world of all the pre2002 retirees. This will have toll on these unionists and wasteful IBA.

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[Mani B]

If the chairman of the committee is incapable of completing the task assigned to him within the stipulated time of 6 months ( which could have been done within few days in the oresent tech savy industry) , hiw he is capable of managing a big bank as CMD. Sheer explicit  inefficiency on his part. Guys in that bank are poor guys under his leadership. Shame on him.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

One Union in UFBU namely NOBW is affiliated to BJP. I appeal NOBW to kindly approach Hon'ble Prime Minister our Beloved Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir and request his intervention in our Pension Updation Matter, which is stuck up despite efforts of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. In return, we Retirees extend our active & aggressice support to BJP in forthcoming Important UP Election and in future Elections also. If NOBW succeeds in getting support of Hon'ble Prime Minister our Beloved Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir, then importance of NOBW in Banking Sector may increase Substantially. After full support of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam to Bank Retirees, Bank Pebsion Updation matters  is not that much difficult. 

[Sanjay Velankar]

Very true.

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One Union in UFBU namely NOBW is affiliated to BJP. I appeal NOBW to kindly approach Hon'ble Prime Minister our Beloved Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir and request his intervention in our Pension Updation Matter, which is stuck up despite efforts of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. In return, we Retirees extend our active & aggressice support to BJP in forthcoming Important UP Election and in future Elections also. If NOBW succeeds in getting support of Hon'ble Prime Minister our Beloved Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir, then importance of NOBW in Banking Sector may increase Substantially. After full support of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam to Bank Retirees, Bank Pebsion Updation matters  is not that much difficult. 

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Almost all 8 Members of the IBA  Pension  Updation Committee are near their age of 60 years. I do not know that  after Reconstitution of the Committee, if any Member Retires or Dies before conclusion of the Committee, wheather IBA will again reconstitute the Committe, scrapping the Proceedings of Previous Committee/s.

[mohan p]

It is fact that,the Chairman and Managing committee of IBA,itself  is changed every year.

Naturally any sub.committee may  also function accordingly.

So IBA can drag our issue for any period  assigning any vague reason as per their wish.

They may submit an interim report to court within the time granted.Our issue need not necessarily resolved within the time frame!

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Almost all 8 Members of the IBA  Pension  Updation Committee are near their age of 60 years. I do not know that  after Reconstitution of the Committee, if any Member Retires or Dies before conclusion of the Committee, wheather IBA will again reconstitute the Committe, scrapping the Proceedings of Previous Committee/s.

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[venkateswara madiraju]

WHAT HAPPENED to meeting FM. Every one forgot that.legal course take lot of time. Meeting FM is urgently rewuirwd .

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[Raj Venkat]

IBA is not authority on any issue .it ia group vested interest to average out the performance and benfits of banks by so called research which can be done by banks alone not together depending on their financial position.I don't know why banks like SBI is wallowing in it to delay benefits of their employees and retirees.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

This is a musical chair game. Mr.Rajkiran appointed a committee to examine pension updation claims. Rajkiran retired as IBA chairman in Sep without completing the updation process. New Chairman Mr.Goel took charge in Oct. Now the Committee chairman is retired. Now Mr.Goel may take two or three months to reconstitute the committee. New committee will take another 6 months to complete the job. By then Mr.goel will retire as IBA chairman.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

There are 246 Members of IBA, out of which only 10 Members are PSU Banks. I feel that there should be a separate Association exclusively for  PSU Banks. At present, IBA is working for common interest of all it's 246 Members. Exclusive Association of PSU Banks may work for common interest of only PSU Banks. Most humbly and with due respect, I appeal to Hon'ble Finance Minister of India to declare setting of Exclusive Association of PSU Banks during Budget on 1st February 2022.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Hon'ble Finance Minister is extremely Busy upto 1st February 2022, for preparing Budget to be presented. From 2nd February 2022, we will try to meet Hon'ble Finance Minister for our Pension Updation Matter and will bring to her kind notice the latest Developments (or No Development) in the Matter.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

During 3rd Quarter ending 31st December 2021, Canara Bank has doubled its Net Profit to Rs.1502 Crores from Rs.696 Crores in 3rd Quarter of last Financial Year. Other PSU Banks have also shown more or less similar excellent performance. This shows solid fundamentals of PSU Banks, the strong base of which has been constructed by the Employees, who are now retired. 

I request Hon'ble Finance Minister of India to kindly acknowledge the above stated contribution of past Employees and approve Pension Updation at least from Prospective Date.

Canara Bank's Net Interest Margin (Difference between interest given and received) has also been increased by 14.10% on annual basis to Rs.6945 Crores. From this increased Margin, Provision for Pension Updation, if required, can easily be made.

[Padam Singh]

Sir, don't forget that politician is only politician, never trustable and Sitaraman madam is not exception. 

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

Yes, we know well that Indian politicians and ministers cannot be trusted and their verbal assurance cannot be taken as granted. But at the same time we have also to consider that it was this Finance Minister, Smt.Nirmala Sitharaman of her own came out expressing concern for long time distress of the Bank retirees and whatever development is in sight that is due to her initiative including formation of 6 member IBA special committee on updation of pension. We have continue to pursue exploring all possibilities till updation of pension is achieved and other discriminations are removed.

Debasish Mukherjee. 

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Sir, don't forget that politician is only politician, never trustable and Sitaraman madam is not exception. 

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 10:06 AM 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hon'ble Finance Minister is extremely Busy upto 1st February 2022, for preparing Budget to be presented. From 2nd February 2022, we will try to meet Hon'ble Finance Minister for our Pension Updation Matter and will bring to her kind notice the latest Developments (or No Development) in the Matter.

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<madir...@gmail.com> wrote:

WHAT HAPPENED to meeting FM. Every one forgot that.legal course take lot of time. Meeting FM is urgently rewuirwd .

On Thu, 27 Jan, 2022, 11:47 am mohan p, <moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is fact that,the Chairman and Managing committee of IBA,itself  is changed every year.

Naturally any sub.committee may  also function accordingly.

So IBA can drag our issue for any period  assigning any vague reason as per their wish.

They may submit an interim report to court within the time granted.Our issue need not necessarily resolved within the time frame!

On Thu, 27 Jan, 2022, 9:57 am 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Almost all 8 Members of the IBA  Pension  Updation Committee are near their age of 60 years. I do not know that  after Reconstitution of the Committee, if any Member Retires or Dies before conclusion of the Committee, wheather IBA will again reconstitute the Committe, scrapping the Proceedings of Previous Committee/s.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Hon'ble Finance Minister declared her Commitment/ Assurance in Public Domain. Before such Declaration, Hon'ble Finance Minister asked SBI Chairman to talk to IBA for Pension Updation. Hon'ble Finance Minister also talked to then IBA Chairman. Hon'ble Finance Minister also informed that Banking Secretary was also working for Pension Updation. If even after such steps taken by Hon'ble Finance Minister, if her Subbordinates do not obey her instruction, I feel that it may be Disgraceful to Hon'ble Finance Minister, who is in the World Famous Forbes List of 'World's Most Powerful Women'. The Reputation and Credibility of entire Government under Leadership of Hon'ble Prime Minister Most Respected our Beloved Narendra Modiji Sir, is at stake. 

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Monday 31st January 2022, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is retiring from his Post of Chairman of Punjab National Bank. Sumulteniouslyi, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is demiting from his Post of Chairman  of Special Committee formed by IBA for Pension Updation. I appeal to Retirees residing in Delhi and nearby areas to gather in large numbers before PNB's Head Office in Delhi on 31st January 2022 to offer our Best wishes for Happy, Peaceful and Healthy Retired Life to Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir. 

[Raj Venkat]

Good bye MR Rao.Now you are perhaps a pensioner or may be can afford to live without pension.Please sign the committee report before retirnent to up date pension.Or send the strong recommendations to DFS and FM Madam to get pension benefits for you also.But please don't rue for not updating the pree 2002 retirees pension.They will meet you in heavan where you can enjoy their company later.

On Sun, 30 Jan, 2022, 12:15 pm 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Monday 31st January 2022, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is retiring from his Post of Chairman of Punjab National Bank. Sumulteniouslyi, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is demiting from his Post of Chairman  of Special Committee formed by IBA for Pension Updation. I appeal to Retirees residing in Delhi and nearby areas to gather in large numbers before PNB's Head Office in Delhi on 31st January 2022 to offer our Best wishes for Happy, Peaceful and Healthy Retired Life to Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir. 

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[dr padmanabhaiah]

Excellent proposal. Let him start experiencing the thoughts of lacks of pensioners of his demiting his service on 31-1-2022. 

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Monday 31st January 2022, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is retiring from his Post of Chairman of Punjab National Bank. Sumulteniouslyi, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is demiting from his Post of Chairman  of Special Committee formed by IBA for Pension Updation. I appeal to Retirees residing in Delhi and nearby areas to gather in large numbers before PNB's Head Office in Delhi on 31st January 2022 to offer our Best wishes for Happy, Peaceful and Healthy Retired Life to Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir. 

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[Hans Raj Manuja]

When Mr Mallikarjun did nothing to wish us happy, healthy and peaceful retired life , why should we wish him so ?

On Sun, 30 Jan 2022, 12:15 pm 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Monday 31st January 2022, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is retiring from his Post of Chairman of Punjab National Bank. Sumulteniouslyi, Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir is demiting from his Post of Chairman  of Special Committee formed by IBA for Pension Updation. I appeal to Retirees residing in Delhi and nearby areas to gather in large numbers before PNB's Head Office in Delhi on 31st January 2022 to offer our Best wishes for Happy, Peaceful and Healthy Retired Life to Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir. 

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

I think that we have to follow the Path shown by Mahatma Gandhi. We will start Massive Campaign to send Rose Flowers to IBA and it's All Managing Committee Members. We have also to send Rose Flowers to Banking Secretary, who has been asked to work for Pension Updation by Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. We will thank the above Authorities  for delaying Pension Updation with Message,"Get Well Soon". Simultaneously, we have to approach Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam bringing to her attention Displeasure of Retirees over inordinate Delay by the above Authorities despite her instruction to them on or before 30th October 2020.

[Shrinivas Parkar]

Now after presenting Budget in 1st February2022, Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam may get some time. Those Retirees, who have directly or through Hon'ble MPs have met Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam in the past 18 Months, have again to meet her in the light of Latest Developments (or No Developments) in our Pension Updation Matter. 

[Raj Venkat]

Gandhian agitation. He eats food salted sensibily.

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Originally, the Term of Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir as a PNB Chairman was only upto 18th September 2021. When Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir was appointed as Chairman of Special Committee for Pension Updation on or before 22nd July 2021, IBA was not knowing that his term as PNB Chairman is going to be extended. It was subsequently only on 26th August 2021, Respected Rao Sir was given extension upto his date of Superannuation of 31st January 2022.

When IBA appoints anybody as Chairman for Pension Updation, knowing that he is going to retire within 2 months, it means that as per IBA, 2 Months time is sufficient for Pension Updation Report. 

[mohan p]

Dear Friends,

In fact whether a sub committee under IBA is necessary for look into affairs of Retirees of banks?

Family pension was declared by then Chairman of IBA without having any sub committee.It has became a reality.

Let us not conduct any post mortem on what has already happened.X or Y might have already retired from service of banks.They could not  help us by submitting a proposal to MOF while in service,forget about it.They may draw two pensions too,now! Apart from post retiral assignments elsewhere!

Let us focus on our issues, and persuade retirees organisations to personally meet Hon.FM and remind on concern expressed by her on retirees issues  in 2020.And to follow it up till it is resolved.

Along with let retirees Apex organisations keep good rapport with UFBU to speed up the process of arranging discussion with IBA on our major issues.

We cannot expect that, IBA may do good for retirees,by their own!

On Wed, 2 Feb, 2022, 9:56 am 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Originally, the Term of Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir as a PNB Chairman was only upto 18th September 2021. When Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir was appointed as Chairman of Special Committee for Pension Updation on or before 22nd July 2021, IBA was not knowing that his term as PNB Chairman is going to be extended. It was subsequently only on 26th August 2021, Respected Rao Sir was given extension upto his date of Superannuation of 31st January 2022.

When IBA appoints anybody as Chairman for Pension Updation, knowing that he is going to retire within 2 months, it means that as per IBA, 2 Months time is sufficient for Pension Updation Report. 

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[NSS]

Friends

The following are quotes by Mr.Fred Allen, American Comedian .  

" Committee is a group of people who  individually can do nothing, but who, as a group, can meet and decide that nothing can be done." 

" A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling to do the unnecessary."

N.Sankara Subramanian 

[Shrinivas Parkar]

Hon'ble IBA says that the Pension Updation Committee will be reconstituted due to Retirement of Respected Chairman. I do not know whether the Honorarium agreed to be paid to all Committee Members is or will be paid by Hon'ble IBA. 

[Debasish Mukherjee]

No, IBA officials knew that Mr.Mallikarjun Rao's date of retirement from service (as PNB M.D.) on 31st January,2022. Mr.Rao was appointed Chairman of IBA special committee in July,2021 at the recommendation of the then IBA Chairman Mr. Rajkiran Rai G. It may possible that in spite of Mr. Mallikarjun Rao's good intention to do justice to the retirees wanted to submit report in time he did not receive cooperation from IBA officials who did not provide necessary feedbacks and records to Mr.Rao. We the old retirees are well aware about foul games played by the IBA officials at the dictates of UFBU leaders particularly the AIBEA. It is high time we the retirees should launch wide campaigns in Social medias exposing ugly masks of the UFBU and AIBEA leaders particularly CHV and Soumya Datta.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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Originally, the Term of Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir as a PNB Chairman was only upto 18th September 2021. When Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir was appointed as Chairman of Special Committee for Pension Updation on or before 22nd July 2021, IBA was not knowing that his term as PNB Chairman is going to be extended. It was subsequently only on 26th August 2021, Respected Rao Sir was given extension upto his date of Superannuation of 31st January 2022.

When IBA appoints anybody as Chairman for Pension Updation, knowing that he is going to retire within 2 months, it means that as per IBA, 2 Months time is sufficient for Pension Updation Report. 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mohan Sir, you have given a clear picture.

We have to accept reality.

1. Even after FMs advice we are back to square one.

2. No committee is needed to just arrive at the formula for updation and calculate cost. The Pension cell of every bank is capable of that.

3. Both Members of this special committee and the Regular IBA negotiating team of BPS are MDs of Banks with the same privileges and rights. When IBA negotiating team with more than 100 meetings  available to it with UFBU since 10th BPS could not make any progress in resolving Updation and 100% DA

how can IBA expect this committee ( with the same MDs of Banks) to finish the job within 8-10 meetings?

4. This is another drama ro fool retirees.

5. So AIBPARC should leave alone IBA and the committee, and get status of updation by meeting  Bank MDs directly or through RTI route.

6. And also meet FM and discuss updation issue  only and request her to intervene in the matter.

   

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[Raj Venkat]

Pensioners should meet Amit Shah and give petition during his campaign and also Modi 

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[mohan p]

Nice and apt quote sir!

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[chaudhari shashikumar]

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[Sankara Subramanian]

Thank you very much Mr.Mohan.

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[Prk Murthy]

Well said Sri NSS

PRK MURTHY 

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[Nagaraju Kakani]

Sairam,First let us all come out of the clutches of the unions and associations of the serving and retired employees,stop paying subscriptions ,if we really want to show our strength and stop voting to the non doing politicians.

With regards,

Nagaraju Kakani,

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

It is also a big question why the appealants counsel did not raise objection of IBA seeking three months time from SC? When In today's technology advanced world updation of pension for merely 6 lacs retirees and removal of other discriminations cannot take more than a month's time particularly when the Banks are equipped with advanced technologies.Appealants counsels should have raised objection for IBA seeking three months time citing the Banks having so much advantages in completing reports within a month taking today's technology advanced atmosphere. Why the PNB retired employees Assn.counsel did not raise that point raising a big question whether they are also influenced by the IBA particularly PNB retirees Assn.is also affiliated to AIBRF whose G.S. Mr. S.C.Jain also duped the UBIREWA in 100% D.A.case in the SC in 2018.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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Friends

The following are quotes by Mr.Fred Allen, American Comedian .  

" Committee is a group of people who  individually can do nothing, but who, as a group, can meet and decide that nothing can be done." 

" A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling to do the unnecessary."

N.Sankara Subramanian 

On Wednesday, 2 February 2022 at 09:56:31 UTC+5:30 sppar...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

Originally, the Term of Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir as a PNB Chairman was only upto 18th September 2021. When Respected Mallikarjuna Rao Sir was appointed as Chairman of Special Committee for Pension Updation on or before 22nd July 2021, IBA was not knowing that his term as PNB Chairman is going to be extended. It was subsequently only on 26th August 2021, Respected Rao Sir was given extension upto his date of Superannuation of 31st January 2022.

When IBA appoints anybody as Chairman for Pension Updation, knowing that he is going to retire within 2 months, it means that as per IBA, 2 Months time is sufficient for Pension Updation Report. 

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[NSS]

Friends

The Appellants can mention for early listing even now. In case it is decided not to seek early listing ,on the date of next hearing, if only an interim report is submitted - which is most likely - Appellants may seek hearing of the case with an assurance that in case IBA submits a proposal for updation, the Appellants will consider the same. Appellants may inform in this forum the email addresses and Cell Phone numbers of Persons who can be contacted in case any pensioner wants to give suggestions or wants to clarify anything. 

Appellants should inform the pensioners their plan of action. After each hearing the Appellants may post in brief the developments in the case. After the first hearing  in which our Advocate sought adjournment  stating the formation of IBA Committee, there were posts in social media that Advocate acted on his own and the Appellants did not ask him to seek adjournment. Appellants should shed the cloak of secrecy and come out with more information. The outcome of the appeals will affect all the pensioners and the Appellants are conducting the case as Representatives of all the Pensioners.

N.Sankara Subramanian

[sastry n s]

Can anybody stop the FM to fulfil her promise if she is really on the job ? Now it can safely be assumed that our issues will prolong indefinitely without any resolution. Let us be contented if the existing pension is protected at the least.

[Debasish Mukherjee]

Yes, I agree with Mr.N.Sankara Subramaniam that appealants and their counsels should take useful advice from the retirees and should furnish their contact details i.e. phone/mobile nos.also e.mail addresses & whatsapp.nos.in this blog to enable the retirees to forward useful advice/suggestions. 

FURTHER I REQUEST THE BLOG MEMBERS FROM PNB TO KINDLY FURNISH PNB RETIRED EMPLOYEES ASSN.E.mail address & phone nos.THAT HAD FILED APPEAL IN THE SC AGAINST JUDGEMENTS OF PUNJAB & HARYANA & ANDHRA HIGH COURTS REJECTING UPDATION OF PENSION VIDE SC CASE NO.5561 OF 2016.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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The Appellants can mention for early listing even now. In case it is decided not to seek early listing ,on the date of next hearing, if only an interim report is submitted - which is most likely - Appellants may seek hearing of the case with an assurance that in case IBA submits a proposal for updation, the Appellants will consider the same. Appellants may inform in this forum the email addresses and Cell Phone numbers of Persons who can be contacted in case any pensioner wants to give suggestions or wants to clarify anything. 

Appellants should inform the pensioners their plan of action. After each hearing the Appellants may post in brief the developments in the case. After the first hearing  in which our Advocate sought adjournment  stating the formation of IBA Committee, there were posts in social media that Advocate acted on his own and the Appellants did not ask him to seek adjournment. Appellants should shed the cloak of secrecy and come out with more information. The outcome of the appeals will affect all the pensioners and the Appellants are conducting the case as Representatives of all the Pensioners.

N.Sankara Subramanian

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[bhaskara sarma]

Appointment of committee is just part of a big drama.

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[sastry n s]

As reported in today's 'Times of India, Hyderabad Edition, page 7, Hon'ble Madras High Court, in a case of inaction on the part of the Corporation's Commissioner, commented : ' What is the point in drawing salary when the work is not done ? '. The Bench consisted of Hon'ble Chief Justice also. The Bench also warned the Commissioner that it would restrain the top official from drawing his salary till encroachment of temple lands are removed.

This reminds us of the salary that might have been paid to the ex-IBA Chairman during the period of extension of his tenure by 3 months solely for the purpose of submitting his report on updation. No report has been submitted by him. What has he done ?  Ethically he shouldn't draw salary for the said period. IBA should also recover the salary paid, if any, for his inaction.

[Debasish Mukherjee]

Finance Minister has no say on any of the country's financial & economic matters. Every financial matter is decided by PM.himself taking advice from India's Ex Finance secretary Mr.Hashmukh Adhia. P.M.Narendra Modi trusts only two persons, for financial matters it is Mr.Adhia and for political/administrative matters it is Mr.Amit Shah. So long the Bank retirees updation and other issues are not cleared from PMO Finance Minister or DFS officials cannot approve updation or settle 100%  D.A.neutralisation issue.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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 *Ind. Bk. Viayawada* 

 *Katari Satyanarayana* :

 *How could Mr. Umesh Sharmaji miss  that in respect of 100%DA case decided by the Apex Court on 16 05 2018 , it had deliberately   made certain omissions and commissions   such as* :-

__*where  as the Kolkata case pertains to  its Both the Benches' upholding of clause 6 of industrial level settlement  under ID Act arrived at on 29 10 1993 as valid and enforceable one ,and also   based  on the rationale of DS Nakara's case in favour of retirees*  ,

 *the Apex Court had  insisted  for  tagging up with it the  Madras Court 's Division Bench  verdict on 100% DA case detriment to the  retirees  based on and upholding of the*  *Settlements/ Joint Notes'  as  binding  the pensioners   and also  taking into  consideration of  financial implications  as claimed by* *IBA,   even though  by then  itself it was  already held by another Bench of  similar strength of the Apex* *Court that   such Settlements/joint notes shall not   have  the force of law to  bind  the  retirees  with the  intended  amendments that were  inconsistent with either the    Act  5 of 1970 or the  Regulations,1995 ,  vide para 29 of Judgment dt .13 02 2018 of 1616-1684 points case .* 

--- *there was no valid  prescription of a cut off date 01 11 2002 for denying 100% DA to those retired prior to that date,  in Pension Regulations prior to 31 08 2017 ,the date on which the judgment in  100%DA case was kept in reserve by the Apex Court ( Union Bank Notification dt. 18 09 2017 ).* 

---  *whereas none of the respondent retiree, its impleaded AIBRF  objected to the above tagging up  of SC judgment (SLP against Madras case)  detriment to retirees though not related to the grounds upheld as  in Kolkata Case .* 

---  *there were no valid amendment regulations 2016/2017 of UNITED BANK OF INDIA that ought to have been placed on the table of Parliament on or before the date of judgment of this case dt 16 05 2018.* 

---  *Hence the Union Bank Employees Pension  Amendment Regulations, 2017 were stealthily brought on record of Apex Court by all the parties concerned with the petition  to enable  the Bench call those irrelevant regulations of Union Bank as  of pertaining to the* *REGULATIONS of   United Bank of India  ,which in fact could not be validly brought out by UNITED BANK OF INDIA for various reasons as provided for under RTI.* 

 *Thus the SC lacks jurisdiction to decide the matter relating to United Bank Of India  based on Union Bank of India Regulations, rendering its judgment dt 16 05 2018 completely  void ab initio.* 

-- *Many a  misleading and misrepresentative facts could be brought on record of the judgment by the Executive ( MOF,IBA,BOARD) to enable the Bench speak untruth before delivering its verdict even without speaking any thing  against the  appeal against upholding of conclusion 6 of pension settlement by both the  Kolkata Bench as a valid ground in favour of pensioners.* 

----- *_The author of the said judgment delivered the verdict  just before demitting of his office after which he was reportedly appointed  post his_  _retirement as the Chairman of NGT_ .* ( _*NATIONAL GREEN TRIBUNAL*_ )

----  *Having  had all this herculean task played earlier  detriment to the legitimate expectation of the retirees, how come one should be in a position  to believe that the same EXECUTIVE shall  now come forward  on its volition* ( *and in defiance of the Apex Court Verdict dt 16 05 2018* ) *to accord 100% DA Neutralization to the hapless ones retired prior to 01 11 2002 ?*  *Unbelievable* !

 --_*Katari Satyanarayana*_

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From: "'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner" <bankpe...@googlegroups.com>

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You appear to be correct Respected Inderjit Singh Sir. Yesterday I heard 2 Bank Retirees talking similarly with each other as follows:-

"Maximum Rate of Interest on Bank Fixed Deposit was 11% in the year 1999 but reduced to 5% in the year  2004, during which period, BJP was in-power. This was the main reason for then in-power  BJP Government to lose the Election to Respected Smt Sonia Gandhi, in 2004, even though Respected Sonia Gandhi was new in Politics and was labelled as Foreigner. Now also, during BJP Government, Bank Fixed Deposit Maximum Rates are reduced from 9% to 5% since the year 2014 till date. This has affected Senior Citizens, very adversely. Due to aggressive Speeches of their Star Speaker, Senior Citizens appear to have not noticed this point. But, if Hon'ble Finance Minister does not walk her talk and Pension is not updated, without further delay, Bank Retirees may start massive campaign to Awake Senior Citizens & others, whose main or supplementary Income is Interest on Bank Fixed Deposits. Such Voters may be more than 30%, which is a huge Vote Bank, influencing Election Victory in a great way."

I confidently hope that Hon'ble Finance Minister may not put her Party into Problem and definitely may take suitable steps to Update Bank Pension, without further delay. 

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 10:04, Inderjit Singh

<inderj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes.  Till the time something concrete comes out from MOF, IBA etc., it's like showing lollipop.   Best hope could be close to Lok Sabha elections, that too, if the in-power political outfit fears the road gonna be rough. 

On Thu., Feb. 3, 2022, 3:41 a.m. mohan p, <moha...@gmail.com');" >moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Let us desist from circulating such false information without any authenticity!

Such news may only   increase the  anxiety  of senior/super senior pensioners.

On Thu, 3 Feb, 2022, 3:46 pm Raj Venkat, <vrg...@gmail.com');" >vrg...@gmail.com> wrote:

News

A highly reliable source has informed that ‘ in principle approval of the Government to amend the Public Sector Bank Pensioners’ Pension Regulations to provide 100% DA Neutralisation to pre 2002 Retirees has been received . As directed by Govt , IBAs Managing Committee after obtaining RBI consent has adopted appropriate resolution and had sent the resolution to Govt for approval and to issue Gazette Notification. 

According to him, this should not take more than a week or so ‘

On being asked about similarly placed SBI Pensioners, he told me that SBI Pension Regulations already has such a proviso . 

He further said Pension Updation exercise shall be taken up after receiving Govt approval for 100% DA Neutralisation issue 

For information 

Regards 

Umesh Sharma

03/02/22

On Wed, 2 Feb, 2022, 4:02 pm mohan p, <moha...@gmail.com');" >moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes,sir .You are right.

On Wed, 2 Feb, 2022, 3:41 pm kushal mukhoti, <kush...@gmail.com');" >kush...@gmail.com> wrote:

The calculator calculates the difference of DR for pensioners retired during the 7th to 10th BPS only. Calculators for 5th, 6th, and 11th BPS  are not available there. Please check. 

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 9:26 PM mohan p <moha...@gmail.com');" >moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends

You can also check the increase in DA payable to pensioners  w.e.f 1.2.22 to 31.7.22 under following link in Bank Pensioner blog.

http://bankpensioner.com/dacalculator_feb_2022.html

On Tue, 1 Feb, 2022, 3:03 pm mohan p, <moha...@gmail.com');" >moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Circular on  DA payable to Pensioners,  for the next half year w.e.f 1st February 2022 to 31st July 2022 is attached here below for your information.

On Mon, 31 Jan, 2022, 6:01 pm mohan p, <moha...@gmail.com');" >moha...@gmail.com> wrote:

FOR INFORMATION:

 

ALL INDIA CONSUMER PRICE INDEX NUMBERS FOR INDUSTRIAL WORKERS (AICPIN-IW)2016=100 FOR DECEMBER 2021

As per release made today by Labour Bureau, Ministry of Labour and Employment ,Govt.of India, the All India Consumer Price Index Numbers for Industrial Workers(AICPIN-IW ) Base Year 2016=100 for December 2021, stood at 125.4points  with decrease  of 0.3 points while compared to November 21 figure as furnished here under:

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AICPIN(IW)BASE-2016=100 FOR DECEMBER. 2021
MONTHS	AICPIN(IW)	AICPIN(IW)	AVERAGE		INCREASE
	2016=100	1960=100	INDEX		IN SLABS
October'21	124.9	8210.75
November	125.7	8263.34
December	125.4	8243.62	8239.		74

Thus, the confirmed average index for the quarter comes to 8239 points.

Jh

Accordingly,  there will have  74 slabs increase  in DA payable for  Bank pensioners for next half year w.e.f 1^st February  ’22,to 31^st July 2022.

Detailed chart on DA payable to different categories of pensioners  w.e.f.1^st Feb’22 are furnished here under for information:

 

 

DEARNESS RELIEF PAYABLE TO PENSIONERS W.E.F.1ST FEB'22 TO 31ST JULY'22.
D.A. to those who retired on or after 1st Jan 1986 but before 1st Nov 1992.
Basic Pension		D.A.Payable			Average Index		8239
						Slabs	1909
Up to Rs.1250.				1279.03	℅
Rs.1251 to 2000				1049.95	%
Rs.2001 to Rs.2130.				629.97	%
Above Rs.2130				324.53	%
D.A payable  to those who retired on or after 1st November 1992
Up to Rs.2400				620.2	%	Slabs	1772
Rs.2401 to 3850				513.88	%
Rs.3851 to 4100				301.24	%
				159.48	%
	D.A. payable to those who retired on or after 1st April 1998
Up to To. Rs.3550				393.12	%	Slabs	1638
Rs.3551 to 5650				327.6	%
Rs.5651 to 6010				196.56	%
				98.28	%
D.A.Payable to those who retired on or after 1st November 2002
				267.66	%	Slabs	1487
	D.A.Payable to those who retired on or after 1st November 2007
				202.5	%	Slabs	1350
	D.A.Payable to those who retired on or after 1st November 2012
				94.9	%	Slabs	949
	D.A.Payable to those who retired on or after 1st November 2017
				32.97	%	Slabs	471
pm/31.01.2022.

 

 

 

 

 

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Whether IBA has once again fooled retirees? Is UFBU also part of this? After Hon.Finance Minister advised both SBI and IBA and all MDs to look into pension revision of Bank pensioners during Nov 2020, IBA held the first round of meeting with  officers and workmen association for talks on residual issues including Pension updation. AIBEA/IBA also signed minutes on Pension revision.

Instead of continuing talks on pension updation with Unions and arriving at an agreement why IBA suddenly appointed a committee. Suddenly both IBA and UFBU were out of the picture and this committee occupied center stage. We must note that neither IBA nor UFBU anywhere mentioned how this committee came to be formed and  who authorized it. Infact UFBU also did not protest why bypassing the BPS a committee was formed.

If IBA and UFBU continued talks on updation, it would be part of BPS settlement and both IBA and UFBU would have been responsible for the final decision irrespective of positive or negative. All data was available with IBA and like Family pension, IBA also could have arrived at Updation cost and agreement.

Now this committee neither authorized by DFS nor its  process, is part of BPS and even after the committee submits its report IBA has to hold negotiations with UFBU as usual to arrive at a settlement.

So what is the need of the committee? just to calculate cost and submit its views on updation? Is IBA which is getting several crores from Banks for conducting BPS and other duties not capable of calculating updation cost and arriving at decision, in spite of having separate pension cells for bank pensioners in all Banks?

I think the whole idea is to stop discussing updation issue in BPS and appoint some useless committee whose recommendations have no legal binding as it is not part of BPS or appointed by a notification from govt and postpone resolving the issue indefinitely.

We pensioners unknowingly fell for the trap  and gave a big build up to this committee believing that DFS has authorized it.

Maybe by this time the committee is dissolved and IBA will take another one year to constitute a new committee.

If this committee can take decisions bypassing BPS, the Finace Minister too can issue notification for updation.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 16:34 JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:

IBA committee chairman was extended for three months. But it is 100% fake news that such extention was given to comlete report on pension updation.  Such extention was given due to adminstrative exigencies like delay in appointment of next MD. It has nothing to do with the committee. If anybody has any proof that DFS has authorised  such committee please upload the same. This committee is just a sub committee working under IBA 

This committee is not accountable to anybody.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

IBA committee chairman was extended for three months. But it is 100% fake news that such extention was given to comlete report on pension updation.  Such extention was given due to adminstrative exigencies like delay in appointment of next MD. It has nothing to do with the committee. If anybody has any proof that DFS has authorised  such committee please upload the same. This committee is just a sub committee working under IBA 

This committee is not accountable to anybody.

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[dr padmanabhaiah]

100%correct. He should definitely be penalised as per the analogy of high court observation in a similar situation of non performing the assigned duty. 

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As reported in today's 'Times of India, Hyderabad Edition, page 7, Hon'ble Madras High Court, in a case of inaction on the part of the Corporation's Commissioner, commented : ' What is the point in drawing salary when the work is not done ? '. The Bench consisted of Hon'ble Chief Justice also. The Bench also warned the Commissioner that it would restrain the top official from drawing his salary till encroachment of temple lands are removed.

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[Raj Venkat]

IBA is a toothless advisor.The comittes are ornaments of delay only.Any plural executive is a waste in decision making.Finally oldies suffer by anxiety.We have paid subscriptions to the unions and associations but of no quid pro quo bu where are the brains maturity and dharma of these bodies.?

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[Seshaiyer Devadass]

Sir

It seems that hereinafter instead of pleading to PM or FM for pension updation, let us try with ex-Finance Secretary, Shri.Hashmukh Adhia. It may give us relief

With regards

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[Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran]

Hasmukh Adhia is noted for his anti- bank-employees-attitude and he was the financial adviser for Arun Jaitley. So as long as he is involved, we won't get a favourable decision. 

But the present FM is not Arun Jaitley and that only imbibes confidence. I am sure under the present FM's regime, we will get justice. It is only a matter of time.

G Ramachandran

CB-SVRS.

[Shrinivas Parkar]

Shri Devdass Sir, how, why and in which capacity Ex Finance Secretary Respected Shri Hashmukh Adhia Sir can help us in getting Pension Updation for us?

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Is it possible to file Writ Petition that Retirees issues must be negotiated with Representatives of Retirees in BPS and not with Unions of Working Staff, of whom Retirees are not Members? If yes, we have to file such Writ Petitions in Different Hon'ble High Courts, all over India. I think at least one Hon'ble  High Court may give some relief to us. Now, present BPS will expire in November 2022 and process of next BPS will start from 6 months before means from May 2022. We have to file Writ Petitions well in advance.

We have observed that UFBU may be sure that Writ Petition may bring some good result for Retirees. Therefore, in order that Retirees may not file such Writ Petitions, before every BPS, UFBU has been giving false promises to settle all issues of Retirees and also has been Planting its Stooges in Retirees Blog for this purpose.

[Shrinivas Parkar]

3 days back, Hon'ble Prime Minister Most Respected our Beloved Narendra Modiji Sir inaugurated 'Statue of Equality' in Telangana. I hope now at least inequality in DA Neutralisation to Pre-2002 Bank Retirees may be removed.

[Shrinivas Parkar]

When "All Kerala Bank Retirees Association" met Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam, few months back, for Pension Updation, she quipped that "Otherwise what would happen to my Assurance". This was reference to her Interview to 'Business Line' on 30th October 2020. 

Hon'ble Finance Minister is always busy and is having many matters. I feel again we have to meet Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam and remind her that her Assurance in Public Domain is not yet fulfilled. We have also to bring to her kind attention Attitude of IBA towards Retirees, as revealed from the latest events. 

[Shrinivas Parkar]

It appears that IBA works only at the instruction of DFS and not otherwise. So, we have to follow up with DFS for our Pension Updation matter, which is Commitment of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. I feel that our Retirees Association, if they deem it fit & necessary, may hire some suitable person for following the matter of Pension Updation with DFS. Retirees individually may contribute funds for this Purpose, , if required by Retirees Association. 

[antony rudolf]

Then what this pensioners federation doing?.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022, 15:54 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner, <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It appears that IBA works only at the instruction of DFS and not otherwise. So, we have to follow up with DFS for our Pension Updation matter, which is Commitment of Hon'ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam. I feel that our Retirees Association, if they deem it fit & necessary, may hire some suitable person for following the matter of Pension Updation with DFS. Retirees individually may contribute funds for this Purpose, , if required by Retirees Association. 

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Hon’ble Finance Minister Respected Nirmala Sitaraman Madam,

At the outset, we congratulate you for your selection in the World Famous Forbes List of “World’s Most Powerful Women”. We are happy and proud that we are having such a Powerful Woman as our Finance Minister.

Respected Madam, you may be aware that Pension of the Bank Retirees is not updated during last 25 years, even though the salary of Working Staff has been enhanced 5 times during this period. Every 5 years, our Government allocates certain amount to be utilised for updation of Salary and Pension of Bank Staff. The Distribution of this amount is decided by negotiation between Indian Bank Association and Representatives of Working Staff Unions. Retirees Representatives are not allowed in this Negotiation. As a result, entire amount allocated by our Government is taken by Working Staff only and no amount is utilised for Bank Retirees. This is happening for last 25 years. So far, no Government looked into this injustice. However, now we are having “Modi Government”, led by our Beloved Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir, who cares for everybody suffering injustice. Your honour is also an Important Part of this Government, which believes in “Sabaka Saath, Sabaka Vikas and Sabaka Vishwas”, that means, “Companionship of everybody, Development of Everybody and Trust of Everybody”.    Therefore, when the injustice as above came to your kind notice, immediately you expressed your concern for Bank Retirees by giving Interview to ‘Business Line’ on 30^th October 2020, and clarified your views as follows:-

“Today I had a meeting with newly appointed SBI Chairman Dinesh Kumar Khara. One of the questions that I asked he may or may not be directly involved into it but as a big brother among all the banks, he should be talking to IBA to sort out issues related with bank employees, their pension, family pension and pensions of those who retired long time ago, whose pension does not commensurate with the pension of equal rank. So, that is something I am putting all my energy to make sure. I am communicating with IBA. Secretary (Banking) is also working with them. I told Dinesh Khara that this is something, I am very keen, I want bank employees to be given their dues. A lot of pensioners are waiting for very long time. Yesterday I had meeting with Rajkiran Rai of IBA. I spoke to him too. We need bank employees to be attended too, particularly their families and the pension of retired employees too. Pension matter, staff welfare, these are the issues on which I am definitely concerned.”

It can be observed form your above views and action, that you are not only Powerful but also have a kind heart towards those suffering from Injustice. You proved that you want to work for such suffering people of India. Therefore, your Honour did not only expressed your view, but you have taken proper action in this matter, by directly talking to the concerned. However, we regret to bring to your kind attention that despite your instruction to the concerned, nothing concrete has been done for Pension Updation either by Indian Bank Association or by Banking Secretary, as per your instruction, even though considerable time of 15 months is over, now.

Respected Madam, we are having our beloved “Modi Government”’ which “Jo Bolata hai, woh Karta Hai” means “What it talks, that it does” or in other words, “Walks its Talks”.  We request your honour to kindly take strong steps so that your above quoted words are translated into reality, without further delay, for which act of kindness, we all Retirees remain grateful to you in our entire life, please.

[ganpat dhond]

Appealing and  Appropriate Letter . But has it reached to Honourable Finance Minister?

G J Dhond

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

Respected Dhond Sir, thanks for your compliments. I will be more happy, if this letter is forwarded by number of my Retiree Friends, by various means available to them. A copy may be endorsed to IBA Chairman, Member of Managing Committee of IBA, Member of IBA Special Committee for Pension Updation, DFS Secretary, Banking Secretary and also to our Beloved Honourable Prime Minister Most Respected Narendra Modiji Sir.

We are aware that during last 2 years, various Groups of Retirees have taken pain, directly or through various Honurable MPs, to meet Honourable Finance Minister Respected Nirmalaji Madam and have handed over Memorandum of our Representation. This Letter may be used, with suitable Modification, while drafting Memorandum of our Representation, if deemed fit and necessary.

Also a wide Publicity, by various means of Social Media, may be given, if deemed proper by my Retiree Friends.   

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

I attach herewith an Advance Copy of the Circular of Bank of India on the subject, ‘Farewell Scheme for the Retiring Employees’, please. As stated in the Circular, the Modifications stated in the Circular have already been approved by Board of Directors in their Meeting held on 28.01.2022.

The Objective of “Farewell Scheme for the Retiring “as stated in Point no. 1 Annexure-A is 

“OBJECTIVE Employees retiring on superannuation or voluntary retirement deserve special recognition for their dedication and devotion to the Bank. Such special recognition would go a long way in building 'Brand Ambassadors' in our more than 40,000 retiree workforce.’

[abdul salam]

Sir,

sorry to say that your attachment to the farewell scheme has failed 

to load.

Regards,

A.ABDUL SALAM.

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[Mohan V.R]

Sir, 

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

Pdf did not open. Pls.open from your end and upload detail circular.

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Sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:49:44 GMT+0530
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I attach herewith an Advance Copy of the Circular of Bank of India on the subject, ‘Farewell Scheme for the Retiring Employees’, please. As stated in the Circular, the Modifications stated in the Circular have already been approved by Board of Directors in their Meeting held on 28.01.2022.

The Objective of “Farewell Scheme for the Retiring “as stated in Point no. 1 Annexure-A is 

“OBJECTIVE Employees retiring on superannuation or voluntary retirement deserve special recognition for their dedication and devotion to the Bank. Such special recognition would go a long way in building 'Brand Ambassadors' in our more than 40,000 retiree workforce.’

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Better they recognise the services of retirees by

1. By giving 50% Subsidy to pay insurance premium.

2. Introduce 100% DA and Updation.

Pensioners are deprived of anything between 2 to 8 lakhs by denying 100% DA since 2006. Pensioners were tortured by fixing less than 50% Basic pension and denying 5 years benefit.

All banks have given such a grand farewell to  SVRS retirees by snatching benefits.

Now what they are giving sweet packets?

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[Anantharaman Tg]

Yes. The attachment failed to download.

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[Raj Venkat]

These are piecemeal demands.We should ask for updation like RBI.

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[Seshaiyer Devadass]

Sir

It is correct that retirees issues should be discussed with retirees organisations. But the Himalayan question is to which retiree organisation as there is no umbrella organisation. Every retiree organisation claims to be the real organisation caring for the issues of retirees. If all the retirees organisations come under one umbrella as UFBU, we could strongly fight for the same

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On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:58 PM 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Is it possible to file Writ Petition that Retirees issues must be negotiated with Representatives of Retirees in BPS and not with Unions of Working Staff, of whom Retirees are not Members? If yes, we have to file such Writ Petitions in Different Hon'ble High Courts, all over India. I think at least one Hon'ble  High Court may give some relief to us. Now, present BPS will expire in November 2022 and process of next BPS will start from 6 months before means from May 2022. We have to file Writ Petitions well in advance.

We have observed that UFBU may be sure that Writ Petition may bring some good result for Retirees. Therefore, in order that Retirees may not file such Writ Petitions, before every BPS, UFBU has been giving false promises to settle all issues of Retirees and also has been Planting its Stooges in Retirees Blog for this purpose.

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[Suryakumaran Nair]

Sir, majority of the people here who pretend themselves as arguing for the pensioners issues are really corporate agents and want to sabotage the legitimate claims of the pensioners. The corporate must be paying them  because they want to purchase these banks and  to curtail their expenses in future.

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[Raj Venkat]

All these are in excuses .Nothing is structured and under law in India.

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

Yes, that is main problem. Leaders of most of major retiree Associations viz. AIBRF, CBPRO, CBPRA, UFBRA etc.are in league with the UFBU leaders who have also sabotaged retirees updation and payment of full neutralisation of D.A.to the pre Nov.2002 retirees.They are equally responsible and guilty for doing harms to the retirees interests. As such retirees have to continue with seeking support from members of Parliament, from Social medias and other means for achieving retirees demands.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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Sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:59:09 GMT+0530
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Sir

It is correct that retirees issues should be discussed with retirees organisations. But the Himalayan question is to which retiree organisation as there is no umbrella organisation. Every retiree organisation claims to be the real organisation caring for the issues of retirees. If all the retirees organisations come under one umbrella as UFBU, we could strongly fight for the same

With warm regards

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On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:58 PM 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Is it possible to file Writ Petition that Retirees issues must be negotiated with Representatives of Retirees in BPS and not with Unions of Working Staff, of whom Retirees are not Members? If yes, we have to file such Writ Petitions in Different Hon'ble High Courts, all over India. I think at least one Hon'ble  High Court may give some relief to us. Now, present BPS will expire in November 2022 and process of next BPS will start from 6 months before means from May 2022. We have to file Writ Petitions well in advance.

We have observed that UFBU may be sure that Writ Petition may bring some good result for Retirees. Therefore, in order that Retirees may not file such Writ Petitions, before every BPS, UFBU has been giving false promises to settle all issues of Retirees and also has been Planting its Stooges in Retirees Blog for this purpose.

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[Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam]

I can't control my laugh on this imagination. 

This is the best joke. 

S Kalyanasundaram

[sekhar gupta]

Respected sir, we shall be highly obliged if you would kindly enlighten us about the status of contempt petetion filed about 2 years ago in the supreme court reg.commutation arear in respect of 1616-1684 case probably filed by respected Mr. C.N.Prasad .

Kindly acknowledge.

Regards,.  S.B.Gupta.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Crazy communists rejected by 95% of people in India.

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[P. S. SATYANARAYANA]

Today's banker-communists blame Corporates for anything and everything, to cover up the failures/misdeeds/treachery of their leaders. 

It is only Corporates that create wealth. Doing away with Corporates does not help. I do not think communists can create wealth.

Exploitation in the process of creating wealth, if any, can be resisted and the exploited can be protected - as done by our yester-year leaders like Com. Prabhatkar.

Today's banker-communist leaders, who dumped their own senior colleagues for two-and-a-half decades, cannot call themselves communists. Those who cannot carry their own senior colleagues with them cannot give a call to the Workers of the World to Unite.

Communism is a great concept. But our today's leaders are pseudo-communists.

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

Mr.Suryakumaran Nair, it transpires that you have been assigned by the corporates to defeat the Bank retirees pension updation at the instance of corrupt and unscrupulous IBA officials and UFBU leaders. Most of the members of this Bank Pensioner Google Groups were veteran Bank emplyees in different cadres and many were active Banks trade union leaders.

Debasish Mukherjee.

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From: Suryakumaran Nair <suryaku...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:39:23 GMT+0530
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Sir, majority of the people here who pretend themselves as arguing for the pensioners issues are really corporate agents and want to sabotage the legitimate claims of the pensioners. The corporate must be paying them  because they want to purchase these banks and  to curtail their expenses in future.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:59 AM Seshaiyer Devadass <seshaiyer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir

It is correct that retirees issues should be discussed with retirees organisations. But the Himalayan question is to which retiree organisation as there is no umbrella organisation. Every retiree organisation claims to be the real organisation caring for the issues of retirees. If all the retirees organisations come under one umbrella as UFBU, we could strongly fight for the same

With warm regards

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Cell:9442250104

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On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:58 PM 'Shrinivas Parkar' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Is it possible to file Writ Petition that Retirees issues must be negotiated with Representatives of Retirees in BPS and not with Unions of Working Staff, of whom Retirees are not Members? If yes, we have to file such Writ Petitions in Different Hon'ble High Courts, all over India. I think at least one Hon'ble  High Court may give some relief to us. Now, present BPS will expire in November 2022 and process of next BPS will start from 6 months before means from May 2022. We have to file Writ Petitions well in advance.

We have observed that UFBU may be sure that Writ Petition may bring some good result for Retirees. Therefore, in order that Retirees may not file such Writ Petitions, before every BPS, UFBU has been giving false promises to settle all issues of Retirees and also has been Planting its Stooges in Retirees Blog for this purpose.

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[Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam]

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/the-scepticism-about-corporates-should-go/article34067781.ece

[mohan p]

Sir,

You have said well.

Reality is that  India stands out as a 'poor and very unequal country, with an affluent elite' where the top 10% holds 57% of the total national income, including 22% held by the top 1%, while the bottom 50% holds just 13% in 2021, according to the World Inequality Report 2022.

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[ravi jain]

Sir

Why to demoralise anyone for writing one’s views and great knowledge persons please inform that why active trade unions leaders of 1995 did not show farsightedness for getting updation clause clearly added in final settlement documents at that time when unions were so strong that Govt used to negotiate at the call of unions and leaders were honest and were great well wishers of employees. As per few persons today leadership is dishonest and not well wishers of employees. What to say of pensioners.

So if anyone thinks that he is very much knowledgeable then why he not fight case in court of law.

Be happy 

R k jain

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[Suryakumaran Nair]

Dear  Debasish Mukherjee

There is a proverb, Cat close its eyes while drinking milk and believe that nobody could see it. All active anti trade union elements in this group are agents of the corporate and the proof being: major part of their energy and time they spent here are exclusively to malign trade union movement.

 

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[saradindu basu]

Mr.Suryakumaran Nair has not uttered any personal name. I reququest D. Mukherjee to shed his habit of going personal at least in this forum. 

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