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JesseAndDeborah Mendonca

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Sep 2, 2019, 4:54:51 PM9/2/19
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Hi All,

I've been doing pretty well with google translate, but this marriage record has so many people listed and I want to be sure of the relationships and names.  I believe this may show that the Luiz surname was taken from the grandfather's FIRST name-- instead of his Souza surname.  What do you think?  Thank you in advance, any help is greatly  appreciated.

Link to record #10, top left of page 12, starts bottom right on previous page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html  

Date: 10 June 1861 in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada, Ilha de Sao Miguel

Groom: Manoel Luiz, parents are 
   Jose Luiz, deceased, son of Luiz de Souza and Marianna de Pimentel
   Anna de Conceicao, daughter of Antonio de Souza and Maria de Conceicao
  
Bride: Maria de Gloria, parents are 
   Antonio Cabral, son of Joao de Souza and Maria Joaquina
   Theresa Julia, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Maria Magdalena


This is the first time I have found ANY surnames other than Luiz for my husband's mother who was born in 1909   I want to make sure I am correct about the names and relationships.  

Is there any other info I am missing.  This is a longer marriage record than I have seen so far.

Thank you for your help!

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca
(jessdebmendonca at gmail.com)

Researching:
1. Luiz surname on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, Hawaii, Hawaii

2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, California


Bill Seidler

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Sep 2, 2019, 5:11:11 PM9/2/19
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I believe you are correct on everything, at least I see the names and relationships the same as you do. 

Other useful information might help find the baptisms of the bride and groom.  He was 23 years old and baptized in São Roque and she was 21 years old and was baptized in Livramento.

Bill Seidler 

Cheri Mello

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Sep 2, 2019, 5:11:12 PM9/2/19
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Groom is 23. Maternal grandmother is Maria da Encarnacao. After the Conceicao, he says "digo" for "I mean to say" but abbreviates it as "dig."
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Bride is 21.

The priest went to town listing the grandparents. That is rather unusual and lucky for you!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


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Bill Seidler

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Sep 2, 2019, 5:14:21 PM9/2/19
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Cheri is correct on the maternal grandmother's name.  I missed that.

Bill
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