Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

[jomi...@sbcglobal.net]

Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. 

Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly appreciated.

-Josephine Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Josephine,

To do research, you need a name, a date, and a place. You have a date of 1882 and a place of Hawaii, yet no name. You need to state what you know about the immigrant ancestor, including all names that you have found. We are unable to help you otherwise.

Thanks, Cheri

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[JOSEPHINE MIGUEL]

Hello Cheri,

I thank you for your replies to my son, Don Miguel, with his question regarding paternal great-grandparents.  It shed valuable light and before now, unknown, information.  Going forward from Passport Registrations and Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii, Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros and wife Antonia Hermina do Rego immigrated to Hawaii in1882.  Through Ancestry.com I found a City Directory (1822-1989) listing Jacintho Miguel at gen store Laniwai nr Cooke (I believe his employment).  All six of their children born in Hawaii, surname Miguel.

Jachinto (another misspelling) Miguel on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco 24 May 1910; son Manuel Miguel on same Passenger List.  Antoia Miguel De Medeiros on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco one week later, 31 May 1910.

Confused with surname Miguel because of "de Medeiros" and "do Rego".  Also, saw Antonia Rega listed, which I then thought was her maiden name.

Thanks, Josephine Miguel 

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[Cheri Mello]

Hi Josephine,

I think I have a private email from you to answer as well. You emailed me when I was at the Portuguese Genealogical Conference and Research Trip in Salt Lake City. I'm home now and playing catch up in the online world as well as my own world! LOL

You'll eventually get used to this changing of surnames at a whim type thing.

Looks like your Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros and wife Antonia Hermina do Rego was probably Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros over there and may have been just Jacintho Miguel, but due to other Jacintho Miguels, tacked on Medeiros to differentiate himself. More research will be needed. You'll also likely find the Medeiros somewhere back in his tree. Jacintho is the old spelling for what is now spelled Jacinto. I'm inclined to say that "Jachinto" was a typo or someone transposing letters.

Antonia Hermina (and it may be Ermina, too), was most likely her name. Women didn't have surnames in that time period, but she somehow knew to state her family name of Rego so you are lucky! Because she was female, you do see them matching the surname to her gender in that time period, hence, the Rega.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Margaret Vicente]

Hello Josephine,

Naming practices and conventions varied in Portugal due to Historic and Religous influences in Portugal.  Perhaps some one will address your question, but you may also find the explanation in the attached link, which in my opinion, is not quite right but it does drive the idea home "A Guide to Naming Practices". 

https://www.fbiic.gov/public/2008/nov/Naming_practice_guide_UK_2006.pdf 

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[JOSEPHINE MIGUEL]

Hello Margaret,

Thank you for sending the link. I will be checking into it. 

Josephine 

Sent from my iPad

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[Kathy Cardoza]

Regarding the Naming Practices of the Azores…… there is also a basic explanation of these traditions and practices ob the Azores GenWeb:  http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-m---z/naming-practices-of-the.html

Kathy

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[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, Kathy! I'm assuming that you arrived home safe-and-sound and my Primo did too! 

Rosemarie

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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[Kathy Cardoza]

Yes, we both did, thank you! 

Kathy

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