Help reading Groom's parents in older Altares marriage record

[doreen...@gmail.com]

The groom is Matias Goncalves but I can not make out his parent’s names. The record is on the lower right side of the page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P37.html

I’m wondering if it is saying that his father has the same name. I can not read the mother’s name except Mar….

Thank you for your help in this record. Have a great day. Doreen Caetano

 

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[JesseAndDeborah Mendonca]

My goodness, Doreen.  This is worse than Cherie’s scribble scrabble!  The words Cunha Coelho jump out at me, later on I see Coelho again.   And I think he wrote at least 5 words in English.  Did they put  parent names in in the 1600s?

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[Bill Seidler]

Hi Doreen,

These records you've offered lately are very difficult so I am just as unsure about this as I was the last record you posted.  Hopefully someone else will chime in, but I will offer my input.

I do see the groom's name Matias Glz, son of followed by what looks like "Po? Dias? (Possibly Pedro Dias?) defunto, and his wife Barbara? (first line looks like Mar-, but I think it is Bar-) Glz, marrying Maria Nunes, daughter of Amaro Cardoso and Maria Nunes,  I also see the names Cunha and Coelho but I don't think they represent the family; probably either witnesses or clergy.

Bill Seidler

On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 3:01:28 PM UTC-7, Jesse Mendonca wrote:

My goodness, Doreen.  This is worse than Cherie’s scribble scrabble!  The words Cunha Coelho jump out at me, later on I see Coelho again.   And I think he wrote at least 5 words in English.  Did they put  parent names in in the 1600s?

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:13 AM <doreen...@gmail.com> wrote:

The groom is Matias Goncalves but I can not make out his parent’s names. The record is on the lower right side of the page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P37.html

I’m wondering if it is saying that his father has the same name. I can not read the mother’s name except Mar….

Thank you for your help in this record. Have a great day. Doreen Caetano

 

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[doreen...@gmail.com]

Thank you. I saw the same and I have that couple in my database and they are in this time period. I was just think it might have been saying that the father had the same name as the son and of course, I do not have the Portuguese language skills for determining f that was what it was saying. All of these old marriages and baptism were part of my cousin Mel’s maternal tree. This line is not related to me but is in the same village so in some case it did come back to my lines. Now I have a more complete tree for FTDNA. Apparently Mel’s maternal line according to his MtDNA test is very rare and I wanted to give them more lineage to work with in their research. It would not have been possible with out this group’s help. So on behalf of Mel Ormonde and myself I want to thank everyone. Sincerely, Doreen Caetano

 

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