What does this mean after name

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am working on some baptisms in Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, and this Record on page 28 (right side) has me puzzled, It  starts with Jose filho ligtime digo then Jose, then two words which I me having difficulty with, . then filho legitima and so on, So what does this mean?

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859_item1/index.html?page=29 

Rick

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

[Cheri Mello]

I wonder if the baby died and those words have something to do with that? I tried Google Translate, but I'm not coming up with anything. I've never seen those words in a baptism before.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Bill Seidler]

I've never seen that before but I am fairly sure it is "post unum" which is Latin for "after one".  At first I thought it might be another expression for "póstumo" (posthumous) which is what they would write it the father had died during the pregancy.  I do not think that is it since I could not find an óbido.  There are more instances in the book with the same phrase (without the "digo").  I did find one that said "post terciam" (after 3rd).  https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859_item1/index.html?page=15 (right side).  I wonder if there were 3 Marias for this couple before this one?  Just a thought.

Bill Seidler

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It would not be that the father died as the couple had two other children after this one.

Rick

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[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I just checked the family of the record you posted Bill with the "post Terciam"  There are nine children I have found with two Maria's before the one you found. It has me wondering if it has what was done in later records  where the added "first of the name, second of the name and so on" ?  The only problem I have is that in the two baptisms we are looking at I am short a Jose  and a Maria.

Rick

On 8/12/2025 4:20 PM, Bill Seidler wrote:

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[Gustavo Martins]

Bill,

Couldn’t it mean after one year old?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12/08/2025 um 17:20 schrieb Bill Seidler <bsei.azo...@gmail.com>:

I've never seen that before but I am fairly sure it is "post unum" which is Latin for "after one".  At first I thought it might be another expression for "póstumo" (posthumous) which is what they would write it the father had died during the pregancy.  I do not think that is it since I could not find an óbido.  There are more instances in the book with the same phrase (without the "digo").  I did find one that said "post terciam" (after 3rd).  https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1856-1859_item1/index.html?page=15 (right side).  I wonder if there were 3 Marias for this couple before this one?  Just a thought.

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[Bill Seidler]

He was born on 13 May of 1857 and baptized on day 16 of the same month and year.  It seems he was 3 days old.  I have not seen this term used before but my best guess is that the child is not the first of that same name for the parents.  If someone knows it to mean something else, I welcome your input.

Bill