Sidenote, Santa Maria, Sao Pedro

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Sam (Camas, WA)

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Dec 28, 2019, 9:05:09 PM12/28/19
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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1900-1906_item1/P44.html

 

I believe the side note says that Manoel Soares de Freitas died on 22 of April of current year (1960) and the second side note says that his wife, Virginia Eugenia Cabral, died on 21 of current (can’t read the rest)

 

Can sks help me out here?

 

Thanks, Sidenote Sam

 

 

Cheri Mello

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Dec 28, 2019, 9:16:15 PM12/28/19
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Manuel died 23 April 1960 (at least in this light). Maybe someone with better eyes can look.

Virginia died 21 Dec? 1966 (?) That's my best guess. Maybe they recorded it on Virginia's baptism too?

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Bill Seidler

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Dec 28, 2019, 10:13:05 PM12/28/19
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For what it's worth, I completely concur with Cheri.

The body of the record has something I've never seen.  Does it say that she is a 17-year-old orphan that is legally authorized to marry by a judge at city hall?

Bill Seidler 

On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 6:16:15 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
Manuel died 23 April 1960 (at least in this light). Maybe someone with better eyes can look.

Virginia died 21 Dec? 1966 (?) That's my best guess. Maybe they recorded it on Virginia's baptism too?

Cheri Mello
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 6:05 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1900-1906_item1/P44.html

 

I believe the side note says that Manoel Soares de Freitas died on 22 of April of current year (1960) and the second side note says that his wife, Virginia Eugenia Cabral, died on 21 of current (can’t read the rest)

 

Can sks help me out here?

 

Thanks, Sidenote Sam

 

 

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Cheri Mello

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Dec 28, 2019, 11:13:59 PM12/28/19
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I didn't read the body. It kinda looks like that, yet Virginia has parents that are named (maybe they died and that's not mentioned?). They also got a dispensation to marry, so they are cousins. A native speaker will have to tell us what that "orphan that is legally authorized to marry by a judge at city hall" thing says.
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Ângela Loura

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Dec 29, 2019, 1:22:28 PM12/29/19
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Hi Sam,

Do you know if the bride's father was deceased at the time of the marriage? If so, i think the bride would need the father's legal permission if she was under 25, but then again, i'm not sure if that applies to that time period.

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Sam (Camas, WA)

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Dec 29, 2019, 6:21:34 PM12/29/19
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Hi Angela;  I found Virginia’s birth and I believe it says when her father died, in the margin, but; I can’t quite read the date.  Below that I think it also says when she died?

 

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Sam (Camas, WA)

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Dec 29, 2019, 6:24:35 PM12/29/19
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Thanks, Cheri.  I found Virginia’s birth and it verifies her death date but; I can’t quite read the date, in the sidenote. I think it does say 21 Dec 1966.

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello
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Manuel died 23 April 1960 (at least in this light). Maybe someone with better eyes can look.

Cheri Mello

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Dec 29, 2019, 7:19:58 PM12/29/19
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Did you mean to attach Virginia's baptism?

Her parents' deaths would be in their baptism, not all the kids' baptisms.
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Ângela Loura

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Dec 29, 2019, 7:19:59 PM12/29/19
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Hi Sam,

I just checked her baptism record, the sidenote states #1 her marriage, #2 her husband's death, #3 and her own death.



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Bill Seidler

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Dec 29, 2019, 7:40:09 PM12/29/19
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My wife verified that a  judge's order legally authorized her to marry since she was an orphan.

I did find obitos for her parents.  Her mother died 6 months before she married and her father two years before.

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Cheri Mello

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Dec 29, 2019, 7:47:51 PM12/29/19
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OK, now it makes perfect sense.

Cheri Mello
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