Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage 1643, Vila Nova, Terceira

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Bill Seidler

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Sep 5, 2019, 7:09:20 AM9/5/19
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Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage.  The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left)

What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas.  

Thanks for any help.

Bill Seidler

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:58:20 AM9/5/19
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I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras,

Hope this helps,

Doreen Caetano

 

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Sep 5, 2019, 9:01:12 AM9/5/19
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I would say that is Francisco Piz (Pires) filho de Encensso (Asenco) Roiz Vra. Check page 56 and you will see Joao Pereira filho de Mel Piz Pereira to compare. It is clear that Piz and Pr.a Pereira are different.

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JR

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Sep 5, 2019, 9:37:03 AM9/5/19
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After seeing your comments, Doreen, I revisited and agree, the name is Fructuozo. Just goes to show, I shouldn't be so hasty.

JR


On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote:

I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras,

Hope this helps,

Doreen Caetano

 

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From: Bill Seidler
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira

 

Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage.  The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts.  

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left)

 

What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas.  

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Bill Seidler

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Sep 5, 2019, 9:58:56 AM9/5/19
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Look, I’m wrong so many times and would have the worst datebase if it wasn’t for this group’s constant assistance. This just happened to be part of a line that I had Joao Ventura do for me so I was sure it was correct.

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Bill Seidler

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Sep 5, 2019, 1:11:21 PM9/5/19
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Thank you both.  This is the answer I was hoping for since it matches another record.  I have never seen this "Piz" before but was sure it couldn't be Pereira as the index said.

Bill

Margaret Vicente

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Sep 5, 2019, 2:28:10 PM9/5/19
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The first name of the Groom’s father is Ascensso [currently, Ascenso]

 

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Philippe Garnier

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Sep 8, 2019, 11:43:28 AM9/8/19
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Hi Bill,


Hi Bille,

In the marge is written : "Pasei certidao deste termo em 20de julho 1795".

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Philippe Garnier
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