Marriage of Manuel de Medeiros and Ana Pimentel, Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, 1743

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Bill Seidler

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Jul 25, 2019, 6:29:38 PM7/25/19
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Hoping for some clarification on this marriage. I see it as follows:

Date 30 Dec 1743
Groom: Manuel de Medeiros, son of Manuel Barbosa and Maria de Medeiros, both deceased.
Bride: Ana de Pimental, daughter of Manuel Silva and Maria de Pimentel
All are from this same parish.

My question is about a note in the lower right margin that seems to refer to the name Antonia.  A few years ago,some one from this group (George Pacheco I think) posted a part of this family tree that lists Ana's mother as Antonia Pimentel instead of Maria.  Is that margin note some kind of correction or clarification that the bride's mother's name should be Antonia?

Bill Seidler


Bill Seidler

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Jul 25, 2019, 7:11:19 PM7/25/19
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My grandson made me hurry. I'll post the link when I get back to my computer.

Bill Seidler

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Jul 25, 2019, 8:41:54 PM7/25/19
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Margaret Vicente

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Jul 25, 2019, 8:55:07 PM7/25/19
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Hi Bill,

 

Yes, that’s right, it says:  “alias Antonia de Pimentel” the word alias means the same as “digo” which means “it is instead” / differently / correction

 

Margare

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Bill Seidler

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Jul 25, 2019, 10:28:28 PM7/25/19
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Thank you Margaret.  I thought George Pacheco would have it right.  I confirmed that it was him that posted the tree in March 2015 and I have now found records to substantiate about everything he provided. 

If you are still out there George, thank you again!

Bill Seidler



On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:55:07 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

Yes, that’s right, it says:  “alias Antonia de Pimentel” the word alias means the same as “digo” which means “it is instead” / differently / correction

 

Margare

 

From: Bill Seidler
Sent: July 25, 2019 8:41 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage of Manuel de Medeiros and AnaPimentel, Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, 1743

 

Here is my original post but this time with a link:

 

 

Hoping for some clarification on this marriage. I see it as follows:

 

Date 30 Dec 1743

Groom: Manuel de Medeiros, son of Manuel Barbosa and Maria de Medeiros, both deceased.

Bride: Ana de Pimental, daughter of Manuel Silva and Maria de Pimentel

All are from this same parish.

 

My question is about a note in the lower right margin that seems to refer to the name Antonia.  A few years ago,some one from this group (George Pacheco I think) posted a part of this family tree that lists Ana's mother as Antonia Pimentel instead of Maria.  Is that margin note some kind of correction or clarification that the bride's mother's name should be Antonia?

 

Bill Seidler

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Margaret Vicente

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Jul 25, 2019, 10:37:05 PM7/25/19
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You’re welcome Bill.  These are my ancestors, had her as Antonia as per the marriage record.  The children’s birth records also state Antonia.  Here’s Ana Pimentel.  Bottom left

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P142.html

 

Margaret

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Bill Seidler

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Jul 25, 2019, 11:15:58 PM7/25/19
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Thank you Margaret.  We discovered Ana Pimentel as a common ancestor back in 2016.  She is a 6th great grandmother on direct maternal lines for me and my wife, Eduarda.  You show as a distant match for Eduarda, but not for me. Perhaps you and Eduarda have other common ancestors.  She has ancestry from São Jorge, Graciosa, and Santa Maria as well.

Bill

Liz Migliori

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Jul 25, 2019, 11:33:10 PM7/25/19
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He is most amazing 

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JR

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Jul 25, 2019, 11:58:51 PM7/25/19
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Do you guys mean the alias is meant for the mother Antonia de Pimentel who was married to Manuel da Silva? That is what I have. At one point they also used Maria de Pimentel for Antonia as well. And Antonia is actually native of Santo Antonio, the small location recognized as part of Nordestinho freguesia. I have found many records from Nordestinho and Santo Antonio are lost.

JR

Bill Seidler

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Jul 28, 2019, 1:36:25 PM7/28/19
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Yes JR; thanks for the further corroboration.  I have since found baptisms of 9 of her children and her obit that all also confirm the name as Antonia.

Bill Seidler
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