What SDK version does anMoney use?

[phog...@gmail.com]

I am learning Android development and would like to try to 'update' anMoney as a project. Does anyone know what SDK/API version was used in anMoney?

I know it might be a long shot, but I have a bit of time and this might a project worth doing. 

[Rick Jones]

Hi

I'm not sure what the SDK number is, but the last version of Android that it was built for was 6. I don't know what the earliest supported version was though.

HTH

Rick

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[phog...@gmail.com]

Thanks Rick! The app also has a list of libraries and components. I'll look into those too.

[David Hodges]

Hi,

I've been looking at this on and off for the last few years and come to the conclusion, without the original source files it's just not possible.

The code is so heavily obfuscated that I would go so far as to say it's impossible (please prove me wrong though as I rely on anMoney far too much!)

Android 12.1 has broken some more functionality I've started re-writing it from scratch.  Copying the screens and functionality 1 to 1 but concentrating on the bits I use first.

I was able to extract the SQLite database with my data in it and I've got that working in my "new" app which is pretty cool.  Just got to write the rest of the functionality now.

David

P.S.

Android 12.1 adds some "functionality" which blacks out the screen around the transaction dialog and makes everything which "overflows" the dialog unclickable making it impossible to change the date of a transaction and the status (the "Done" button floats outside the dialog making it unclickable)

My workaround for this every transaction I add with a date not today I need to duplicate another transaction and then in that dialog you set the date to be the one you want and then fill in the correct information.  It's a hack but it works.

[petr.t...@gmail.com]

Hello David,

concerning the new "features" of Android 12.1 with the blacking-out of the screen, I have found another workaround for how to click the buttons and see the background.

I am not sure if this is available on all phones, I use the Pixel phone with a clean Android. And it allows to use a Split Screen - there are two applications on the screen at the same time.

When the anMoney is not running in full-screen mode and it occupies only part of the display, it works the same as before, showing the background behind the dialogue and letting me click all buttons.

I hope this helps some users of anMoney with the latest Android

Regards

Petr

[David Hodges]

Hi Petr,

Wow, good find (Pixel here too).

Have a feeling it won't be long before that loophole is closed but good to stretch the life out a little bit longer :-D

Thanks,

David

[Rick Jones]

Hi David

[I've only just seen this post - Gmail had decided to send messages from this group to spam :-( ]

Great to hear you're making progress with a "replica" app. I thought of trying it years ago, but although I have a long background in development I've done nothing with Android and it's a steep learning curve!

I'd be very interested in trying out anything, when you have something in a state you feel comfortable letting other people get their hands on.

I've just moved "up" to Android 10, having finally ditched my old phone which was stuck at Android 8. (I've now got a Fairphone 3+, which ships with 10, but an 11 upgrade is expected.) It was comforting to find that anMoney still works. I don't see anything revelatory in AOS 10 v 8, beyond some re-arrangement of graphics, and extra annoying restrictions! (clipboard monitoring in particular, so clipboard managers don't work properly any more)

Automatic scheduled transactions in anMoney don't seem to be activating, does anyone else get this in newer Android versions?

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Rick

[Octavio Sampaio]

Hello everybody,

Long time no news. I'm using Android 12 in my phone ( Samsung Flip3), and AnMoney continues to work well in general, perhaps some new features like split screen, sometimes crash the app, but it turns normally ( didn't work well in split screen). Recurring events also had to be manually set, and when you try to change accounts or look at the other side of the transaction, it also crashes. You have to close the account and go to the other to see the transaction made.

I've been using AnMoney for a long time and my accounts are still there since 1999. I can't think of another app ( I tried a lot) to help me with my finance.

Hope it last forever. 

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[Rick Jones]

Just to say my phone's updated itself from Android 10 to 11, anMoney still working :-)

Auto-entry recurring items do seem to be working, though maybe not 100% reliably.

I've notice that "Make recurring" crashes in the same way as "Go to ..." does, annoying but survivable!

[phog...@gmail.com]

Finally learned about Android with Java. I decompiled using Decompiler.com.

David is right about the obfuscation, and this will probably take a lot of time to figure out, but I am willing to play with it and try anyway.

First order of things is still to figure out SDK version to use. Rick responded earlier, however the AndroidManifest.xml has below so I will use SDK 19 (Android 4.4 Kitkat)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<manifest xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" android:versionCode="220141101" android:versionName="1.15.5.20141101" android:installLocation="auto" package="com.zvasvari.anmoneyp" platformBuildVersionCode="19" platformBuildVersionName="4.4.2-1456859">
    <uses-sdk android:minSdkVersion="10" android:targetSdkVersion="19"/>

[Ivan]

Another frustrated alternative software searcher here. Been using this app since 2011 and just can't find a comparable app to switch to.

If you guys can pull that out a lot of people would be happier.

Gmail was trashing this group mails into spam and found this last alert by chance today. I know it's been a while and probably you already know by now, but there's a relatively simple workaround for the unclickable buttons issue. Just rotate the screen. Then those buttons are accessible in landscape mode.

[David Hodges]

Hi Rick and everyone,

Just thought I would update you on my attempts to re-create anMoney like for like, I've got accounts and transactions basically, next I want to get recurring transactions working.

I took a long time off looking at it but I've had a renewed interest in getting it working this week.  I don't know if it will ever be complete but I'd like to get it to a point where I can at least use it myself.

I've created a Play Store listing with a closed testing release so any members of this group can test it out.  It will be a paid app if I ever finish it but I've created some promo codes if anyone does want to install it.

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/dev.hodges.money

Promo codes:

VVK49C5EMRVDFHU3WS5RCMY
358TZ8CC7ENMU9UCC5VLCTR
VSQGJCBR0VCXF0Y5NNTR6S0
2C2AS7S9FJV2QQNNDFYJXDC
GPKL55J4NKN13XGLN62HQ4P

I'd be interested to get any feedback on the work I've done so far.

David

[Rick Jones]

Hi David

That is all very encouraging, congratulations on your efforts!

I'd definitely like to install it and try it using a promo code, but I can't see any way to do so in the Play store without actually forking out £11.99 first. I presume you intended us to be able to try it without paying at this stage?

Am I missing something, or do you need to tweak how the Play store entry is set up?

[David Hodges]

Yes, please don't spend any money - it's very much still a work in progress.

You can redeem the code online here - https://play.google.com/redeem

Or in the app on your device by tapping your user icon in the top right and then Payments & Subscriptions, Redeem a code.

I've never used a code but I think that's all there is to it, then you should have the app permanently.

David

[Rick Jones]

Hi David

That doesn't seem to work. I get to the Redeem page, but it won't accept the code.
It reports: "Error redeeming code. Error Code: PRS-RPCPM-18" (whatever that means!).

It seems to be for codes like gift cards, which give you a blanket Play store credit, not app-specific things.

Has anyone been able to use these codes yet?

Cheers
Rick

[Francesco Argenio Benaroio]

Hi all,

@David it's fantastic!! Thank you for your efforts!

When the app will be finalized I will be so happy to support it.

But right now, as @Rick wrote, the promo codes don't seem to work: maybe they are single use and are already taken?

I will be happy to support your development efforts with testing, especially if the app will feature native import of anMoney backups!

Best,

Francesco.

[David Hodges]

Hi Francesco,

I've logged a ticket with Google about the error with the promo codes and I've also reduced the price of the app to 50p while it's in "Closed Testing" in case anyone is incredibly curious how it's going.

They are single use but none of them have been used yet - and I've tried one that I didn't post as well to double check.

Yes, the restore of the anMoney backup file is probably the thing I am most proud of (children excluded) and absolutely love!

David

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[Deeky Evans]

Dear David, 

Got in there and took the plunge,  restored from my backup file,  the backup appears correct and I will play with it has I go along

Initially it is saying no recurring or other budget yet but it has the familar look in a vibrant colour (we'll done) scheme,  I wish you well and will continue to test

I have note20 ultra 5g running android 13 with 5.1 one ui by the way

Anmoney faithful alumni

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[Rick Jones]

Hi David

I've forked out the massive (!) 59p to download Money. I see you say it will restore anMoney backups, but when I navigate to where I know the backups are it doesn't see any files.

Or does it only import QIF or CSV files?

[Rick Jones]

Mea culpa!

I was getting confused between the emulated SD card and the actual SD card in my phone - DOH!

Looking good, all my accounts show up correctly. Obviously a long way to go, but a great start.

Rick

10 Sep 2025 18:11:31 Deeky Evans <deeky...@gmail.com>:

Hi Rick

i was able to navigate to where my anmoney backup was stored from clicking on the restore.

The backup was stored in my anmoney backup folder on device.

Were you not able to navigate, 

i presume you should be able to put the backup where you want to pick it up from - on my device it iniially went just to the recent files but i could navigate to the on device files

Was it no where on your device?

Philip

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[Rick Jones]

I absolutely concur on forward projections, including reports. I totally depend on that, and it's where all other apps fall down. anMoney is a standout!

Rick

10 Sep 2025 21:09:37 Ed Parr <par...@googlemail.com>:

I too lawd you on your efforts.

The basic requirements are:

- seperate accounts

- recurring transactions 

- multi-part transactions

- forward balance predictions (this is the absolute deal breaker for me on any application)

Anyone who can make that work will likely earn revenue on our beloved platform.

I'm happy to help beta test. My needs are relatively simple yet never met except by MS Money and AnMoney.

A depressing light cast on modern money management,

Ed.

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[Deeky Evans]

Good Evening David,

New update today and the recurring bills and deposits is populated - which is so exciting

But could not edit and it appeared that from my backup it took only the number of the majority in the series ie. a cc bill and salary don't include the chnge of the most recent upcoming reoccuring item 

Keep up what you are doing you are on the right track

I had to restore a backup again to see the reoccuring populated - so peeps you will have to do that

yours in Anmoney

Philip

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[Julie Kemp]

I am having the same issue, not able to redeem any of the codes (I tried all 5). They all give the same error message.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2025, 8:36 AM Rick Jones <rickp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi David

That doesn't seem to work. I get to the Redeem page, but it won't accept the code.
It reports: "Error redeeming code. Error Code: PRS-RPCPM-18" (whatever that means!).

It seems to be for codes like gift cards, which give you a blanket Play store credit, not app-specific things.

Has anyone been able to use these codes yet?

Cheers
Rick

On 09/09/2025 15:44, David Hodges wrote:

Yes, please don't spend any money - it's very much still a work in progress.

You can redeem the code online here - https://play.google.com/redeem

Or in the app on your device by tapping your user icon in the top right and then Payments & Subscriptions, Redeem a code.

I've never used a code but I think that's all there is to it, then you should have the app permanently.

David

On Tuesday, 9 September 2025 at 15:01:43 UTC+1 rickp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David

That is all very encouraging, congratulations on your efforts!

I'd definitely like to install it and try it using a promo code, but I can't see any way to do so in the Play store without actually forking out £11.99 first. I presume you intended us to be able to try it without paying at this stage?

Am I missing something, or do you need to tweak how the Play store entry is set up?

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[Deeky Evans]

Hi Rick

i was able to navigate to where my anmoney backup was stored from clicking on the restore.

The backup was stored in my anmoney backup folder on device.

Were you not able to navigate, 

i presume you should be able to put the backup where you want to pick it up from - on my device it iniially went just to the recent files but i could navigate to the on device files

Was it no where on your device?

Philip

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[David Hodges]

Looks to be a Google issue... I'll see if I can add your email directly or something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/1l8b27l/how_do_i_get_closed_testers_the_app/

On Tue, 9 Sept 2025 at 16:36, Rick Jones <rickp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi David

That doesn't seem to work. I get to the Redeem page, but it won't accept the code.
It reports: "Error redeeming code. Error Code: PRS-RPCPM-18" (whatever that means!).

It seems to be for codes like gift cards, which give you a blanket Play store credit, not app-specific things.

Has anyone been able to use these codes yet?

Cheers
Rick

On 09/09/2025 15:44, David Hodges wrote:

Yes, please don't spend any money - it's very much still a work in progress.

You can redeem the code online here - https://play.google.com/redeem

Or in the app on your device by tapping your user icon in the top right and then Payments & Subscriptions, Redeem a code.

I've never used a code but I think that's all there is to it, then you should have the app permanently.

David

On Tuesday, 9 September 2025 at 15:01:43 UTC+1 rickp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David

That is all very encouraging, congratulations on your efforts!

I'd definitely like to install it and try it using a promo code, but I can't see any way to do so in the Play store without actually forking out £11.99 first. I presume you intended us to be able to try it without paying at this stage?

Am I missing something, or do you need to tweak how the Play store entry is set up?

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[T. J. Colhoun]

Use the shortcut on the post, it will take you to a download site. I thought the same as you but went back to the original post 

Good Luck All.

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[Ed Parr]

I too lawd you on your efforts.

The basic requirements are:

- seperate accounts

- recurring transactions 

- multi-part transactions

- forward balance predictions (this is the absolute deal breaker for me on any application)

Anyone who can make that work will likely earn revenue on our beloved platform.

I'm happy to help beta test. My needs are relatively simple yet never met except by MS Money and AnMoney.

A depressing light cast on modern money management,

Ed.

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[Dave Peck]

Hi,

I've been using anMoney in conjunction with Microsoft Money for years and honestly there is nothing to match it. I'm still using it on my Pixel 7 Pro on Android 16 and everything still works just fine. I have read that Google plans to launch verification for Android apps sometime next year and from what I understand this will effectively block the installation and use of sideloaded apps where the developer is not verified so this will be the death of anMoney going forward.

I would love to help in the development of David's new app, Money. I was a software developer during my career, but not on Android so initially I'd only be able to help with testing. I'd happily pay the £11.99 for a working app, but would not want to pay for testing purposes an so far I have not found a way to install the app for testing purposes by using the promo codes. I just get the same error (PRS-RPCPM-18) as Rick is getting.

Any suggestions?

Dave.

[Sylvain Bouju]

Unsuccessful, for me too...

Sylvain

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[David Hodges]

HI all,

Thanks so much for all the feedback - I agree completely with what's been said about the requirements, in particular:

- seperate accounts

- recurring transactions 

- multi-part transactions

- forward balance predictions

The recurring transactions is where my effort is focussed currently... I'm hoping once I've cracked the projections the reports will "fall in to place" probably wishful thinking.

Despite starting the app over 3 years ago I had a long hiaitus as I hit a bit of a wall but the purpose of making the work in progress available to you all was to try and keep me motivated.

Google have replied about the promo codes but not been very helpful.  Concensus seems to be it needs to be published which it's obviously not ready.  I think 50p is a reasonable (probably too reasonable) amount to pay for an in development app, especially as - if it's ever finished - you'll have the full app at no extra cost so I'm not going to worry about the promo codes and will leave in Google's hands.

Any updates to the Closed testing release will wipe the database and require a fresh restore as everything is still being worked on so don't be surprised when you need to restore again to keep testing.

My plan is to use anMoney and the new app side by side as much as possible to make sure it works as anMoney does.

I'm trying to work on the harder functionality before I sit down to sort some of the "easier" problems but please rest assured my goal is to make a complete anMoney clone in every respect - except the crashes.

David

[Deeky Evans]

Dear David,

I echo all the positive sentiments and will look forward to buying you a large coffee, when complete

Worth every penny,  no money app is close to Anmoney

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[William Wulfken]

This is awesome anmoney has been in use for me since 2012 or before. I have it working on the 26, but it's a little buggy. My son and I tried to get the keys to reconfig the program and that left us with the dev being a gohst. I will def buy this app when you are done !!!!! 

[Jordan Lee Wagner]

I am soooo hungry for this. Please continue and finish it 

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