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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Afis:

De ting tire man for Joe Attueyi!  Luckily for him, 2019 cannot come soon enough.

On this "budget tires/tyres" matter, we should ask:

  (1)  Are "bullet-proof tyres" necessary?  I presume that they are - for some security purposes - but the political "supporter" will give the benefit of the doubt, while the inverterate political "opposer" might be skeptical, even cynical of its necessity.

  (2)  What vehicles will they be used on, and how many tyres 

             (i) were bought in previous years 

             (ii)  are to be bought this year, and why?

  (3)  What are the unit costs of these tyres:

          (i)  as delivered, if they are made in Nigeria?  Probably not.

         (ii)  as delivered, if they are to be imported from abroad.?

     If imported from abroad, I usually go to "Amazon.com" to get an idea of cost - but not dice.   So I went to Alibaba.com:

               https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/bullet-proof-tire.html

    Ex-factory, "bulltet-proof tyres" go from $1-2 per set   to $1600 to $2000 per set

For example:

Compare

bullet proof 16/70-20 spongy solid tire

Henan Dalin Rubber And Telecommunications Apparatus Co., Ltd.

US $1-2 / Set

10 Sets (Min. Order)

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Compare

Light Weight CNGC Run-flat Bullet Proof Tire

Shandong Sanda Scientific And Technological Development Co., Ltd.

US $1600-2000 / Piece

1 Piece (Min. Order)

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So at N305 - 516 per dollar - and when you add shipping and insurance costs, you can better assess.   For example, N100 million will buy 100 tyres for $2000 each at N500 per $ ex-factory.....okay?

And there you have it.  We should be skeptical, but not cynical.

Bolaji Aluko

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:13 PM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning sir, General Williams.

Stop believing everything you read from Motive-Joe Attueyi.

It is one thing to not want Buhari as president, which is mine or Joe's prerogative, however it is quiet vicious and unprogressive to try to destroy the President for your own pecuniary gains.

How much is N100m in good currency?

Motive-Joe runs errands with self-serving, ulterior motives!

Shikena 
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On Feb 17, 2017, at 4:20 AM, Ishola Williams <isholaw...@gmail.com> wrote:

BUDGET PADDING CONTINUES.WHEN WILL IT EVER STOP?WHEN WILL IT EVER STOP?

UNTIL SYSTEMIC CHANGE.iw

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N94m bullet-proof tyres for Buhari, others

Posted By: Onyedi Ojiabor, Abujaon: February 17, 2017

The Federal Government plans to spend N94.5 million on bullet-proof tyres for President Muhammadu Buhari and others this year, State House Permanent Secretary Jalal A. Arabi has said.

Canteen and kitchen equipment will cost N100.8 million.

These are part of the breakdown of the State House  budget presented by Arabi to the Senate Committee on Federal Character and Inter-Governmental Affairs.

The number of treated (bulletproof) tyres that will be bought with N94.5 million was, however, not specified.

Arabi told the committee that N94.5 million (50% of the actual sought for in 2016) is proposed for this year.

 The amount is expected to address the shortfall and complement the requirement of “the sector which are mostly treated tyres procured at exorbitant price”.

On why the tyres should be bought at “exorbitant price”, Arabi explained that “some of the tyres being purchased are actually treated (bulletproof)” and hence constituted the bulk of the purchase cost.

For canteen and kitchen equipment, Arabi said N100.8 million was provided in the 2017 budget.

He added: “This amount is principally the unreleased appropriation for 2016, which was the unpaid balance in 2015 for contracts awarded and executed. The sum of N80.2million appropriated in 2016 has up to this moment not been released hence its rollover and inclusion in 2017.”

Arabi noted that it was important to mention that the proposal covered kitchen equipment in the main residence, VP’s residence, banquet hall, State House medical centre, State House auditorium and 22 guest houses.

On electricity charges, he said N45.3 million was approved in the last year’s budget.

The State House’s electricity bill for 2016, according to Abuja Electricity Distribution Company (AEDC), was N252 million. Another outstanding liability of over N300 million for State House, Lagos facilities.

Arabi noted that the provision in the 2016 budget could not accommodate the outstanding liability.

He said the management of the State House was forced to install meters in 2016 to ensure proper billing “and that was what reduced the bill to a reasonable figure”.

Arabi said that since the bills were subject of reconciliation “we have made a modest provision of the sum of N319.6 million for 2017 to settle current and part of outstanding bills as noted above”.

The committee chairman, Senator Tijjani Kaura said the State House Medical Centre should be properly funded as it does not serve the Presidential Villa alone, but provides services for outsiders.

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[Joe Attueyi]

Prof Aluko

I was going to mention you by name in my response to Afis---but considering your recent slow movement from hailer to wailer I didn't 😂

It is amazing that a news article published by Thisday and posted by me without comments is generating this 'high level intellectual ' analysis by you😎

Wetin for happen if I had made a comment? 

Odikwa egwu o

Joe

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[Ishola Williams]

Prof,Bullet Proof tyres do not make sense if the vehicle body which sits on the tyre  is not bullet proof.

It acceptable if its is to replace worn-out Bullet Proof Tyres of Bullet-Proof Vehicles.But then How many of these vehicles are in the inventory of FG.

The inquiring minds want to know following Pastor J.

It is padding.Period.iw

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Joe Attueyi:

I am a chailer - a critical hailer - not a wailer like yourself and a few others, for who the sky is always falling, and are constantly looking for a scorpion under every rock.

The last time I commented, you stated that I did not give solutions to my critique.  I re-stated them - or clarified - but typical of your ilk, you clammed up - but thankfully others read them.

Is the country where it should be after two years?  Absolutely not, but that is a result of legacy problems, international pressures, delayed/indecisive policies of the government as well as ACTIVE sabotage (or un-enlightened self-interest) by those who have both stocks of Naira and Dollars hidden in various places around the country - including in shanties in Kaduna and elsewhere.  It is the inability of the government to HOLISTICALLY shut down these kinds of torrid discoveries of corruption - some of which MUST still be continuing as we speak, but maybe in lesser amounts - that is galling.

As I wrote in my last piece, corruption may still win this battle, the way the Government is waging it...but we shall see.  

That is chailing, not wailing.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko 

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

GIW:

A bullet-proof car that is also sitting atop non-bullet-proof tyres is also a failed vehicle, a sittipg duck.  But the kind of question you hint at are what to be asked, instead of accusing of "padding" right away:

         (1)  how many bullet-proof cars are in the inventory?

         (2)  how many of their bullet-proof tyres require replacement?

For Joe Attueyi, that is too much "intellectualization".  Whenever it comes to Buhari, Attueyi never wishes to go beyond his St. Gregory's WASC reasoning - maybe due to his hidden biases over PMB's confirmed certification?

And there you have it! :-)

Bolaji Aluko

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[Ishola Williams]

Prof ,Then why waste money  buying  a "Sitting Duck" vehicle at all not to  talk of the Bullet-Proof  Tyres?

Like AG will be laffing taya all the way from Arizona.If it is not padding,what is it?iw

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

GIW:

If you are buying (replacement) bullet-proof tyres, must you state/buy the bullet-proof vehicles ALL OVER again? 

When the bullet-proof vehicles were first bought, they must have had bullet-proof tyres.  Now the tyres are worn, and they are asking for money for replacement.  What is so difficult to understand about this, unless you believe:

     (1)  they should not have bullet-proof vehicles in the first instance?

     (2)  they REALLY don't have bullet-proof vehicles?

I don't get you, General!

Bolaji Aluko

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[Ishola Williams]

Prof and Afis<you know Nigerian system more than I do and how it operates.Let me hold on to my positions o.

Prof,In your earlier response,you used the term" Vehicle Maintenance" which also includes  replacement of worn-out tyres. no matter what type of tyres.

So what is so special about Bullet-proof tyres that will will need a special line in the budget for such a number of tyres.

I have no doubt in my mind that my position is correct. that from past experinece.

You have tolerance for a system that is crying for change.Let us move on sir.iw

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[Joe Attueyi]

The last time I commented, you stated that I did not give solutions to my critique.  I re-stated them - or clarified - but typical of your ilk, you clammed up - but thankfully others read them.

Prof Aluko

Haba! The reason I asked for your suggested solutions is because I find that you put a lot of brain power into these things when you are so minded. Even where I disagree, I still enjoy reading them and the thinking behind them. Where I disagree strongly I so state as you can bear witness 

I read and appreciated your suggested solutions. There was nothing in it that required a response or clarification so I am not sure what I was supposed to do other than 'clam up'!

There are too many emails on irrelevancies clogging up our inboxes. I think many folks should learn to 'clam up' like me when they have nothing to add to an idea. No?

Joe
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[Joe Attueyi]

Nnamochie 

Prof Aluko is from the remote village of Ode Ekiti.  Very much like Otuoke without the crocodiles 😎

If he comes to our 'little london' like my Abriba friends say, he will stay indefinitely 

Joe

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When is Prof Aluko going to visit the neighborhood in retaliation for your visit to Otueke? I can imagine Prof Aluko on Orie Utuh Akwuata Court Road, all smiles, and wanting to stay indefinitely as Buhari is doing in London. 

Yea. I forgot he is from Ekiti. My adopted state when I am away from Anambra. Would you believe there is someone on these forums from Igogo? And he is here in Chicago. He cautioned me never to say "Igogo Ekiti". Why? That is redundant. So from now on, I will just say Igogo. I wonder where Bolaji is from? Don't tell me Igogo or Enyin or Enyio. 

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Joe Attueyi:

Gracious dealing demands that if in an interlocution you disagree, and you point it out, then during that same stream, where you agree, you should point it  out too, lest it looks as if we are always in disagreement.

That is healthy conversation, as different from  the toxic ones that poĺlute our Nigerian forums.

As to my chailng, I seem to have more headache these days, when I see a four-time convicted/jailed Ibori return to Nigeria as a folk hero  or I see the kinds of amounts of dollar bundles recovered from shanty buildings - not all the money that the man has, and he is not alone with such a storehouse.  I ask myself whether we are animals, and where is our outrage.

I am disconsolate about the anti-corruption fight, for it cannot be fought and won by the current kid gloves - tip-of-iceberg arrests and traditional prosecutions . 

Bolaji Aluko

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The last time I commented, you stated that I did not give solutions to my critique.  I re-stated them - or clarified - but typical of your ilk, you clammed up - but thankfully others read them.

Prof Aluko

Haba! The reason I asked for your suggested solutions is because I find that you put a lot of brain power into these things when you are so minded. Even where I disagree, I still enjoy reading them and the thinking behind them. Where I disagree strongly I so state as you can bear witness 

I read and appreciated your suggested solutions. There was nothing in it that required a response or clarification so I am not sure what I was supposed to do other than 'clam up'!

There are too many emails on irrelevancies clogging up our inboxes. I think many folks should learn to 'clam up' like me when they have nothing to add to an idea. No?

Joe
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 1:07 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Joe Attueyi:

I am a chailer - a critical hailer - not a wailer like yourself and a few others, for who the sky is always falling, and are constantly looking for a scorpion under every rock.

The last time I commented, you stated that I did not give solutions to my critique.  I re-stated them - or clarified - but typical of your ilk, you clammed up - but thankfully others read them.

Is the country where it should be after two years?  Absolutely not, but that is a result of legacy problems, international pressures, delayed/indecisive policies of the government as well as ACTIVE sabotage (or un-enlightened self-interest) by those who have both stocks of Naira and Dollars hidden in various places around the country - including in shanties in Kaduna and elsewhere.  It is the inability of the government to HOLISTICALLY shut down these kinds of torrid discoveries of corruption - some of which MUST still be continuing as we speak, but maybe in lesser amounts - that is galling.

As I wrote in my last piece, corruption may still win this battle, the way the Government is waging it...but we shall see.  

That is chailing, not wailing.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko 

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[Joe Attueyi]

Gracious dealing demands that if in an interlocution you disagree, and you point it out, then during that same stream, where you agree, you should point it  out too, lest it looks as if we are always in disagreement.

Ok Prof Aluko. Point taken. 

As per Nigeria and corruption, it requires anthropological, cultural and socio political analysis-- from whence its solutions lies. And it is late right now where I am. We can discuss / debate/ analyse that another day. 

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