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Abraham Madu

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 Kayusee 

I shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine . 
The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962. 

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On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Imperial:

Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.

Kayode

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial



Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !


Preamble

Few days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings. 

How They Met
Akintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.
He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader. 

The Real Issue
Let me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.

If I may ask  WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER? 

NOTE
I checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.

Victor Ogundipe, PhD

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On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 12:13:20 PM CDT, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Imperial:

That's not an opinion. That's an innuendo. It's a propaganda.  You're smarter than that. You should be able to separate facts from fictions.

Kayode

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 1:08 PM, Imperial
 Kayusee 

I shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine . 
The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Imperial:

Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.

Kayode

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial



Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !


Preamble

Few days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings. 

How They Met
Akintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.
He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader. 

The Real Issue
Let me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.

If I may ask  WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER? 

NOTE
I checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.

Victor Ogundipe, PhD

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“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.”  - Victor Ogundipe, PhD

 

Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!

 

I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.

 

Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.

 

Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.

 

Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.

Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.

 

Cyril Anyanwu

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION

 

A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him. 

 

Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.

 

 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 01:08:01 PM EDT, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 Kayusee 

 

I shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine . 

The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962. 

 

Sent from my iPhone



On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Imperial:

 

Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.

Kayode

 

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial





 

Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !

 

 

Preamble

 

Few days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings. 

 

How They Met

Akintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.

He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader. 

 

The Real Issue

Let me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.

 

If I may ask  WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER? 

 

NOTE

I checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.

 

Victor Ogundipe, PhD

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Stevek

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Bravo, Cyril.

In this place, arguments consists only of baseless condemnation by declarative proclamations.

To wit, none of the arguments against the author have provided no single contrary facts that the dispute by fiat.

That doesn’t mean that disagreeing is wrong or unacceptable.

It means that one has to advance facts to argue against ‘facts’ that one contests.

You are right that it is irrelevant whether the poster has a Ph.D or not because nothing he wrote require academic citation. Indeed, most of the critical information - except that part about Akintola ‘writing the party constitution’ is already in Wikipedia.

And, as you said, no tree exists without roots. And, Awolowo, as a founding father, is part of the tap root of our country.

And that includes corruption.

Personally, I don’t expect any better from the contestants, so far.

Afis

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 You and your phony knight (Stevek) Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.”………..Nebu.



Hahahahaha!
The two of them are clowns.
Two idiots praising each other with bullshit the colonial masters left on their necks:

Stevek: Sir brother Sir.
Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo no knight is as big as you Sir.

Two dumb blind mice.
🤣🤣🤣
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Apr 21, 2022, at 9:13 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:


Lasherief of North Dallas,
I didn’t see your bitchiness, you’ve likely joined the deranged ape in my spam folder. In any case, if you are poorly educated, don’t brag about it because doing so makes you seem dumb.

When a PhD holder writes something and appends PhD to his name, underneath the article, he/she is conveying to the recipients of the article that it was properly researched and constitutes an expert’s position. What Ogundipe wrote is not commonly knowledge, and since he didn’t apply academic methodology in writing it, it is his personal opinion and he should not have appended his PhD underneath it. Equally, no one needs to follow or honor his hollow and dishonest demand for a “verified contrary opinion” in rejecting his piece since he lacked the academic discipline to have written in a verifiable format.

You and your phony knight Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.

I don’t want you in my spam folder because I appreciate your thought when you aren’t aping African American teenage girls and trans women, so I am going to ensure that I didn’t accidentally block you. By the way. I now know from where, in Obowo, you hail. If you ever disrespect me, youngsters from there would ask you one or two questions.

Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.

Afis

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Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial. 
He’s a troublemaker.🤣
No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.
The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.
No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.

Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.
Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.

Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.
Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.
Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.
You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.
He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!

Afis
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Alagbo Afis, when we tell you that the Imbecilic Imperial is a Fulani hegemonist foot soldiers you guys were preaching for us to take things easy with him 
Imagine the Yeye man, who claimed to have Ibarapa/ Okeogun heritage to have acceded to all these caliphate propelled opprobrium  against the Great Sage AWO 
Like Nebu said, it would have been easier and cheaper to have jailed an AWO with corruption charges if there was any than the ill contrived Treasonable felony case 
Anyway, it is good we all know the kind of character this imperial muppets is 

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Baba Buska, it’s the best thing to give him Maalu rope to hang himself.
We know him, but most people may not remember who he was when he was a follower of Amala politics and Alao-Akala.
Right now he’s about to climb his Iroko tree to the edge of its leaves!!
Na fall be dat.
Afis
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Alagbo Afis, when we tell you that the Imbecilic Imperial is a Fulani hegemonist foot soldiers you guys were preaching for us to take things easy with him 

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Imperial, if not for Alagba like Afis, Dr Ola Kazeem, Olajide and co, some of us will never Ashe our time engaging you
Seeing that you will never post any stuff here without blind copying your Arewa paymaster’s forum, you should know what that means 
You have the gut to link the revered name of AWO to corruption when you don’t even know we have the facts of your role in the financial industry and the handy man job you did for the IBB’s Inglorious foreign exchange police tagged SECOND TIER, how you and your ilk circumvented the rules to help your mother military apparatchiks to feather their illicit nest, part of the major reason our naira is where it is today 
You have the gut to cast aspersions against AWO, when we all know that Sardauna Ahamadu Bello, runs the account of the Northern region like his personal account, probably you were not old enough to have known how top notch Awo’s administration’s machineries are, even the British government back then acknowledged it 
Sure you have eyes to see the vanguard newspaper reference posted by Stevek on this issue below 
We know you and what you represents and there’s no way we will allowed an Atounrinwa like you to try to rewrite our history 
Akoyiletas masquerading as patriots  

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On 22 Apr 2022, at 11:10 AM, 'Imperial' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Afis 

If we genuinely have better Nigeria in mind, let’s not be sectional or partisan in our various comments .

 Without doubt, Awolowo achieved a lot for Western Region when there was a strong Institution in place, thanks to the British colonial government . The way you see Awo is the same way many Igbos see Zik and many northerners see Ahmadu Bello . If the institution is weak - as we have in Nigeria of today - there is a little a leader can achieve. Let’s be honest, Awolowo, Zik and Ahmadu Bello can’t cope with the turbulence in Nigeria of today except they rule with iron hands like Lee Kwan Yew of Singapore . 
The fact that Awolowo government was indicted for corruption by the Coker Commission of Inquiry  in 1962 is settled  and gazetteed . What some of his top supporters were saying then is that the commission‘s  report should have been extended to cover the regime of his erstwhile  deputy, SL Akintola . Let’s stop hiding behind a needle if we truly like to move forward . 



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Kayode,

Clearly, you have never written or defended a thesis nor have you ever published a paper in a peer-review publication nor produced a public document for use in government regulation or lawmaking. 

Such a reference is, necessarily, validated or confirmed by at least one independent source. 

Thus, a reference is a document or source that contains a verified or established fact, such as exposure to COVID-19 virus causes COVID-19 symptoms and is validated by one or more independent source.

What you are contriving as a ‘reference’ is concurrent individual opinions, either personally acquired or read in the newspaper - such as you and I had when these events under discussion is going on. Even the Coker Report is not a reference because it is a mere collection of testimonies that could have been lies. At least, the Coker Commission did not put those who testified under a polygraph test.

Merely repeating hearsay from those who heard the same story you heard at the time, no matter how highly placed, is just hearsay; it is not a reference!

You do very well here in the things you do but you poison your own excellent contribution with your strange behavior.

On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 9:44 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nebukadimental Adiele To Dummy Cyril Anyanwu:

"In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago." --- Nebukadimental Adiele

Hahaha!

Kayode

On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 6:27 PM, Kayode Adebayo
Brainless Biafran Idiot Called Cyril Anyanwu:

"I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite" --- Brainless Biafran Dummy Called Cyril Anyanwu

Why wouldn't you agree with your fellow idiot who concocted the lies? It's a Biafran wish that Awolowo was corrupt because of the role he played during Gowon Regime against Biafra. The liar who wrote the article who claimed he has a PhD didn't cite any authority as a source of his research. Of course, he is from Ogbomosho, the home of Akintola trying to rewrite history that never happened. He knows stupid people like you would jump on it and run with it, because you have a dubious and mischievous motive like him.

You're a disgrace to humanity.

Kayode

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Mr. Osuji,

I, read all the books of another English writer, like Evelyn’s Underhill, while I was in Form 2 in secondary school before I became a seeking Catholic and learned all the philosophy, logic, and science thereafter in the university. It set a path for my life… knowledgewise.

Her name was Marie Corelli. 

It prepared my mind to look out for and validate the extraordinary concepts she put fort in her writing, especially, in “Ardith’, ‘Temporal Power’, ‘The Sorrows of Satan’, and others. This while my mates were reading novels by James Hardley Chase and Ian Fleming.

I just saw this. I will respond to it soon.

On Friday, April 22, 2022, 7:52 AM, Ozodi Osuji <ozodi...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Stevek:

 

You seem to have been trained in logical reasoning, could you help me out with the below dilemma?

 

 

EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW IS SHOWN TO ME THROUGH MY FIVE SENSES, SEEING, HEARING, SMELLING, FEELING AND TOUCHING; SUPPOSE THAT THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO LIMIT MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE PHENOMENAL WORLD IT SHOWS ME AND THERE ARE OTHER WORLDS THAT THEY CANNOT SHOW ME?

 

Ozodi Osuji

 

    Everything that I know or think that I know is through the auspices of my five senses, seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, feeling; they show me what is called the empirical world, the phenomenal world of space, time and matter.

    Now, suppose that there are other worlds that they cannot show me? This is the shortcoming of knowledge derived from empiricism, perceiving what is in front of us; whereas we can observe the phenomenal world, verify it, experiment on it and use science to understand it, and do technology based on that science, that still does not answer the question of whether there are other worlds that our five senses cannot show us.

     Mystics claim to have suspended their five senses and experienced the world of light forms and the formless light world of God.

     If one is not a mystic one does not have proof for those worlds and would be cowardly to accept them; all that one can do is have an open mind that many things may exist that given our methodology that perceives with our physical senses, we do not know.

      I am currently rereading:

 

Evelyn Underhill (1911/2006). Mysticism. New York: Dover Books.

 

     The lady is incredibly smart; her book shows erudition seldom found in ordinary human beings like me. She is a first-rate English writer; reading every chapter is like reviewing what you studied in philosophy (ontology, epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, beauty and so on).

     She delt a devastating blow to David Hume, August Comte and Saint Simon’s insistence on us relying only on our five senses in ascertaining what is knowledge. May be George Berkeley’s solipsism and Henri Bergson’s vitalism have a place in knowledge?

     Whereas we must rely on our senses we also know that our senses sometimes show us what is not there (illusions), thus, the need to question the stimuli from the physical environment picked up by our senses.

    For now, I am going to allow the logical positivist, empiricist and scientist in me to prevail. I am not going to do what Soren Kierkegaard suggested and make a leap of faith and accept what I do not see, God.

      I will limit myself to the world of the here and now and see whether it really can make a convincing argument that this empirical world is all there is to existence; I am going to suspend my judgement and accept Richard Dawkins barking that the clock was made by a blind watch maker, even though something tells me that there needs to be intelligence outside of matter, space and time to make that watch that he talks a lot about; I do not see how a monkey can keep banging away at a type writer and pound out William Shakespeare’s immortal plays!

 

Ozodi Osuji

April 22, 2022

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Our Yoruba say, abanije koni gbayi lailai forever and ever!

When as usual Imperial brought out an opinionated and biased concoction written by a Victor Ogundipe, this drunken Stevek wrote this:

To wit, none of the arguments against the author have provided no single contrary facts that the dispute by fiat.”……..Retired Pesticides Fumigator, Stevek.

But when evidence were posted, historical facts from the Coker Commission report, this inebriated fool, Stevek a Pesticides Fumigator, turns anti-clockwise with this Idiocy:

Even the Coker Report is not a reference because it is a mere collection of testimonies that could have been lies. At least, the Coker Commission did not put those who testified under a polygraph test.”……….Dumb Ass Stevek.


I think Stevek believes we’re all inebriated like he’s always plastered.
It was his lapdog, Imperial, who touted and pointed us towards the Coker report.  Someone did a brilliant research and posted it for all to read.

Stevek the fool at 80yrs old, is now claiming the Coker Commission report  was only full of opinions and lies, because the report proved Imperial and “PhD” Ogundipe as liars and destroyers of good people.
Stevek now rejects the same Coker report they hung their arguments on. 

In his stupid opinion, because in 1962 the Coker Commission “ did not put those who testified under a polygraph test”, the report is full of lies………let me repeat it, in 1962, Coker Commission did not order polygraph tests on those who testified, says omugo Stevek.🤣🤣🤣

These are the morons we have to debate issues with!
How many Commissions of inquiry in Nigeria have ever performed polygraph tests before presenting their findings in Nigeria, even in UK or USA.
We saw the 9/11 commission in 2002, live on tv.
Was there any person put under the polygraph test?

These guys are a waste of time.
They just know how to destroy people’s names. If this is how they choose to live their lives badmouthing good people, most of these guys are going to die poor and unsung!!

Oloobuuku kan dede ni awon omo ti nkankan ko biyi.
Awon people yi won le ri batise ooo, kii sepe.
Afis
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Ok Imperial, let’s not discuss it out of anger.
Let’s start from the beginning again.
When you posted the biased opinion from one Ogundipe, and you were challenged, you pointed us to the Coker Commission report.
Someone posted probably parts of the report, I’m guessing the summary which did not show any indictments of Awo.
You came back again referring us to the same report…….my question:
Please, don’t you think you should post the Coker Report in full texts so that we all can share in your knowledge?

I won’t lie, I read bits and pieces of the Coker report in the past, not the whole report, but as far as I have read including the parts posted by someone here, I did not read about any indictments.
Now another question:
Was there a court proceedings stemming out of those indictments you mentioned casually?
If so, please post the court proceedings.

Hope I sound civil enough.
I apologize if I got carried away, Awolowo is not someone to soil while I’m alive.
Shikena 
Afis
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Afis 

I am not a politicians and don’t hero-worship any Nigerian politician, dead or living. 

It’s only those with poor judgement or those victims of bandwagon that lack full information about the events of past that would see any Nigerian politician as superhuman.

Please don’t behave like a common Afenifere thug call Buska . 





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 Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial. 
He’s a troublemaker.🤣
No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.
The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.
No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.

Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.
Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.

Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.
Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.
Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.
You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.
He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!
Afis
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You are just a dishonest person lacking also in honor.

Hence my reluctance to have further interactions with you.

 

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Brother Sir!

Just a few minutes ago when I was in the shower, I was wondering what should precede a response I should ever give this creature, if he ever wrote something so damaging to the Res Republica (The Common Good) that I had to respond to him; I don’t respond to him, no matter what, since he called The Mother of God that unprintable name.

Thank you, Sir, for providing me the words!

Cyril Anyanwu

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Imagine a Court Jester like Afis, alien to the ethos of decorum calling others clowns?

 

Cyril Anyanwu

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Why do illiterate Yoruba people always revert back to Yoruba language, as if all the audience being addressed understand the language?

I have never met a single educated - even marginally educated - Yoruba who revert to Yoruba language unless their intended audience are Yoruba speaking or are trying to communicate a concept that is not in English, such as ‘orita meta’ or ‘ebora’!.

Would someone tell this ugly obese thieving fool without even a GED to go get some minimal education before he comes here to continue inserting himself where he doesn’t belong and disgracing himself?

Imagine this kind of of an unprincipled nonentity calling anyone ‘drunken’. 

This guy is probably drinking continuously to drown his sorrows from his multiple afflictions that include estrangement from even his own family!

Abraham Madu

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"You came back again referring us to the same report…….my question:
Please, don’t you think you should post the Coker Report in full texts so that we all can share in your knowledge?

I won’t lie, I read bits and pieces of the Coker report in the past, not the whole report, but as far as I have read including the parts posted by someone here, I did not read about any indictments." by Afis.

Afis ,
.my question:
Please, don’t you think you should post the Coker Report in full texts so that we all can share in your knowledge?.
Why wouldn't you read the whole report lazy Afis?
A.A.Madu


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Imagine a fully grown African slave called Cyril Anyanwu, whose life is still mirroring that of his colonial masters, a slave in his mind and a village clown to all listening to him.
That’s why “The two of you, Stevek and Cyril are clowns.”
There are real God fearing Christians here on CyberWorld, you don’t see their posts trying to impress on everyone that they are morally superior.
It is only the fake Christians that always make mention of their unholy holiness just to impress the Munguns among us.

Two idiots praising each other with bullshit invisible ropes the colonial masters left on their necks:

 Read their salutation here if it isn’t clownish.

Stevek: Ha! Sir brother Sir.

Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo, no knight is as big as you Sir.

Stevek: My Girlie-man my head dey swell oo. You call me Sir Knight. Haba! Only me? Ha, my rotten teeth greet you ooo.


Two dumb blind mice.

🤣🤣🤣
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Afis

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Stevek:
You seem to have been trained in logical reasoning, could you help me out with the below dilemma?”……..Dr Osuji.


Dr Osuji, Stevek wasn’t “trained in logical reasoning”, he’s neither logical nor does he reason well. Have you read one of his gibberish mumbo jumbos?
Facts:
Stevek was trained like a dog at the Bowie County College (BCC two yr), as a Pesticides mixer and Fumigating personnel.
It’s a crash program introduced by the liberal govt of Bowie County in Maryland, for the African-American high school dropouts.
Stevek took the opportunity in both hands, and he was ahead of all dunderheads.
After spending four years in a two yr college with prayers and Ekpe, Stevek eventually passed out without feinting, in crawling colors…..abi na flying colors sef.
Dr Osuji, please stop flattering Stevek.
🤣🤣🤣
Afis
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 04:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:



 Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial. 
He’s a troublemaker.🤣
No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.
The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.
No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.

Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.
Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.

Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.
Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.
Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.
You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.
He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!

Afis
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 This guy is probably drinking continuously to drown his sorrows from his multiple afflictions that include estrangement from even his own family!”…….Drunken Stevek.



Stevek is projecting outward again.
Sorrow is not in my orbit.
May sorrow always be yours, Stevek Kerewawa.🤣 
Estranged, isn’t that what happen between you and one of yours whose name starts with J?
Watch your steps, Stevek, don’t let me open book on you. I’m well armed nowadays and very dangerous!

Warn yourself, Stevek, don’t go into family matters, you do it I will surprise you without holding back.
You will have to explain how your blood moved out of Bowie to live in Calif.
You are warned.

Afis
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 Why do illiterate Yoruba people always revert back to Yoruba language, as if all the audience being addressed understand the language?

Afis

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Imagine a fully grown African slave called Cyril Anyanwu, whose life is still mirroring that of his colonial masters, a slave in his mind and a village clown to all listening to him.
That’s why “The two of you, Stevek and Cyril are clowns.”
There are real God fearing Christians here on CyberWorld, you don’t see their posts trying to impress on everyone that they are morally superior.
It is only the fake Christians that always make mention of their unholy holiness just to impress the Munguns among us.

Two idiots praising each other with bullshit invisible ropes the colonial masters left on their necks:

 Read their salutation here if it isn’t clownish.

Stevek: Ha! Sir brother Sir.

Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo, no knight is as big as you Sir.

Stevek: My Girlie-man my head dey swell oo. You call me Sir Knight. Haba! Only me? Ha, my rotten teeth greet you ooo.


Two dumb blind mice.

🤣🤣🤣

Afis
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EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW IS SHOWN TO ME THROUGH MY FIVE SENSES, SEEING, HEARING, SMELLING, FEELING AND TOUCHING; SUPPOSE THAT THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO LIMIT MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE PHENOMENAL WORLD IT SHOWS ME AND THERE ARE OTHER WORLDS THAT THEY CANNOT SHOW ME?


Osuji,

I will keep this short and go straight to the point since the bane of the topic, human psychology, is more in your field than in mine.

Our five senses (some believe that there are a few more that we are not aware of or fully evolved) are intended to be like flashlights in darkness to aid us to interact with phenomenology in the physical universe. 

And logic or INTELLIGENCE is the innate operational part of sentiency or self-awareness that allows us to KNOW the relationships of the things we detect with our senses (flashlights).

The relationships we KNOW become our KNOWLEDGE that is stored in an ever-expanding MIND as we KKNOW more and more.

And our instruments or tools are also, necessarily, limited to the physical innate potential of our senses - since we have no receptors for inputs from instruments intended for senses we don't have; the rest of the qualities of the universe different from what our senses are designed for remaining UNKNOWING and UNKNOWABLE to us.

And all this is only for the physical universe which is only like the tip of the iceberg of the Cosmos or Reality; the rest being the more extensive base or Metaphysical Universe of which the physical universe is its iceberg of visible and tactile manifestation.

But even in the workings of our own bodies, most of what keeps us alive is the Autonomous System in the Limbic Brain (Medulla) that uses more intelligence and coordination than our mighty Cerebral Cortex that is responsible for our Awareness.

Therefore, we are more than only what we are aware of. And, clearly, there is more to Reality the Cosmos than just the physical and tactile universe.

And we have glimmers of this flashing occasionally through our iceberg of Awareness when we KNOW things in processes we poorly understand, such as serendipity, intuition, premonition, and precognition.

This is a higher form of interconnection with the metaphysical world that is higher than a mere flashlight intended to be used in the darkness of the ephemeral physical universe (logic); it is a continuation of where logic ends and true Sentiency begins.

St. Paul alluded to this in Ephesians 5: 25-32 and 1 Corinthians 13:12.


My former metaphysics professor at Catholic University, Dr. aul Weiss, in his book, Beyond All Appearances, - which we used in class as a textbook, called the connections between the physical and metaphysical universe quasifalia.
  


And I believe that, even now, we have that potential of innate ability to evolve beyond logic to full-blown Sentiency to be the Masters of the Universe that we are intended to be. 

After all, our evolutionary status allows us to use only 1/6 of our brains...and we are still evolving (some of us!Emoji).

Stevek

Gloria in excelsis Deo!



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Under SL Akintola’s bio, this is excerpted:

Decisions over the direction of strategic alliances by the party, the adoption of democratic socialism as the party's platform and the battle for supremacy in the party led to disagreement between Chiefs Akintola and Awolowo. Akintola disagreed with Awolowo's decision not to join the coalition government. Akintola wanted to align the Action Group party with the Northern People's Congress. He also opposed the party's decision to adopt democratic socialism as its ideology, preferring a more conservative stance.”……..SL Akintola’s bio.



Another info on what caused the rift between the two leaders:


Excerpted: 

“It was gathered that differing interests for strategic alliances in Action Group party led to a political crises between Akintola and his friend, Chief Awolowo. The battle for supremacy in the party led to disagreement between them as Akintola disagreed with Awolowo’s decision not to join the coalition government. 
Akintola felt the Yoruba people of the West were losing their pre-eminent position in business, university and administration in Nigeria to the Igbo people of the East simply because the Igbo-controlled NCNC had joined the government and the AG had not. He also opposed the party’s decision to adopt democratic socialism as its ideology, preferring a more conservative stance“……End.


Awo lived a consistently predictable life.
Above in that excerpt, Awo’s decision not to join in a coalition was the main disagreement between Awo and Akintola.
Before IPOB’s enforcers threats to kill Igbos who join Hausa/Fulani Terrorists, Awolowo already knew the Fulani Terrorists as The Deplorable Elements in Naija politics.
Awo refused to be dragged into a coalition with NPC, headed by Sardauna of Sokoto. Akintola badly wanted the coalition, when it failed to materialize he became a TRAITOR.
From then on Akintola worked tediously to destroy the Action Group and its leaders. 
According to Pa Ayo Adebanjo, “ There was an allegation that Awolowo was planning to stage a coup against the government. That was Akintola’s allegation against him. That was the crisis that divided the party. However, this was not the truth.”
Imperial brought out the above quote, not I.

The same scenario played out during the NPN regime when Shagari invited UPN to join in some form of collaboration, Awo maintained his dignity and declined.
That was Chief Awolowo we knew and respected, and greatly admired.
When Awo declined the offer to join Shagari, the same Jegudu-jera elements in Yorubaland accused Awo of rigidity and that he wasn’t a politician.

What caused the rift between the two leaders is explained above, not by me, but facts according to history.

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This is for Cyril Lasherif Girlie-man:

Only a moron asks a person who is accused or maligned in public to bring evidence to disprove the allegations.
You gotta be uneducated.
You’ve to be a compound fool to think it’s reasonable to state:  “If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.”  - Victor Ogundipe, PhD



Only a Nigerian will say “you are guilty until you prove me wrong!”
It’s quite surprising how a PhD holder, probably an igbo calling himself Victor Ogundipe, will claim he made thorough research but presented zero references.


Hey Cyril Anyanwu, go do the finding yourself. You this moron!

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:



“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.”  - Victor Ogundipe, PhD

 

Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!

 

I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.

 

Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.

 

Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.

 

Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.

Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.

 

Cyril Anyanwu

 

 

 

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A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him. 

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Afis

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For the first time I agree with Stevek’s observation;
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Here come that ugly black as coal, old no GED illiterate con-man again!”……Says Stevek, the Retired Pesticides Fumigator.


I concur. He’s butt ugly and pretentiously dangerous.
He’s lying Afis is “googling” him.
Nope.
I sent for your records and know more about an enemy!

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Apr 22, 2022, at 11:15 PM, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Here come that ugly black as coal, old no GED illiterate con-man again!

Any friend this life-beached old man here?

If there is, Google the college he just named (Bowie Community College) if it exists in Maryland…or anywhere in the world, for that matter…of if there is Bowie County in Maryland at all!

What kind of an adult - and one old as this oaf - does stuff like this?

He even spends time Googling information about me and he doesn’t even know me nor I, him!

The life of an old con man must be worse than a decommissioned and abandoned old dog in a dog pound with nothing to do but look and bay at the moon and looking for company in his misery.

Go get that GED, con man. 

I know that you have tried several times but keep trying so you’d know what the rest of us went through ti belong here.


On Friday, April 22, 2022, 2:03 PM, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Stevek:
You seem to have been trained in logical reasoning, could you help me out with the below dilemma?”……..Dr Osuji.


Dr Osuji, Stevek wasn’t “trained in logical reasoning”, he’s neither logical nor does he reason well. Have you read one of his gibberish mumbo jumbos?
Facts:
Stevek was trained like a dog at the Bowie County College (BCC two yr), as a Pesticides mixer and Fumigating personnel.
It’s a crash program introduced by the liberal govt of Bowie County in Maryland, for the African-American high school dropouts.
Stevek took the opportunity in both hands, and he was ahead of all dunderheads.
After spending four years in a two yr college with prayers and Ekpe, Stevek eventually passed out without feinting, in crawling colors…..abi na flying colors sef.
Dr Osuji, please stop flattering Stevek.
🤣🤣🤣
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On 22 Apr 2022, at 04:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:



 Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial. 
He’s a troublemaker.🤣
No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.
The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.
No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.

Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.
Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.

Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.
Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.
Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.
You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.
He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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