RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MIKE OKIGBO]

 I endorse this presentation with all my heart . And to add that during the war General Ike Nwachukwu bore Omar Sanda to hide his identity. Similarly , Theophilus Danjuma , changed his name to Yakubu Danjuma during the war and reverted to Theophilus after the genocidal war.
 
The intention of all these name changers was to help mobilise the Arab world and Cameroun under  Ahmadu Ahidjo against the infidel Biafrans. And so the Governor (a christian) of the Camerounian state that shares border with Eastern Region was removed for expressing sympathy for the plight of Ndigbo . This paved the way for the effective blockade of Biafra. And the Arab pilots , mostly Egyptians and Syrians, were secured to bomb women and children at Biafran Market places.
 
Do not forget that Yakubu Gowon sounds like a moslem name and the Arabs thought he was a moslem fighting a jihad.
 
Ike Nwachukwu's father was not married to a member of Arewa royal family. He married a slave of the royal family.
 
otenkwu 

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:26:24 -0400

Mazi Ogbonna,

 

I admire your passion and dedication but not your candor in your defense of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu.  The candor in your defense is questionable to me because your entire presentation appears to be a total distraction from the core issue (concern) raised by those of us who are offended and insulted by having him as the leader of the Igbo delegates to the national conference.  In your thesis below, you frequently used offensive and derogatory words such as jealousy, envy, hate, crab mentality, internet tigers, etc, to address those of us who have voiced out serious concerns about the character of General Nwachukwu and his loyalty/patriotism regarding the collective interest of Ndi Igbo.  That makes your defense of General Nwachukwu  to sound hollow – my poinion.

 

The core question is this:  What role did General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu play in the cold blooded massacre of about 700 innocent Asaba men, women and children and their burial in a mass grave in September of 1967?  Some of us including myself who participated in the Biafra struggle are still living today and the pain of the Asaba genocide is still ever fresh in our memories.  Dancing around this crucial question in an effort to sell General Nwachukwu to us as a loyal and patriotic Igbo leader, is rather offensive to me.

 

I have no issues with where he  was born or by whom because that was not a decision he made by himself.  You cannot hold his genealogy against him.  However, just like everyone of us, he is accountable and responsible  for the choices and decisions he made as a human being.  He cannot join in shedding  innocent Igbo blood at a time when it was fashionable in Nigeria to do so, and now that Igbos have survived the holocaust, he is being exulted as an Igbo leader by those who care nothing and know nothing about the millions of Igbo lives lost in our struggle to stop Igbo haters in Nigerian form erasing Igbos from the face of the earth.  

 

Did he help Muritala Mohamed in killing and burying about 700 Asaba people in a mass grave? What role did he play in the Asabe genocide?  General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu cannot have it both ways. He needs to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo.  Yes, we know that to err is human but to acknowledge your error and to apologize to your victim is noble and pacifying. To switch sides (jump ship) and parade himself as a leader of those he shed their blood and helped to crush, is very arrogant in my view.

 

General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was appointed the military Governor of Imo State under Buhari at a time when Igbos were trying to recover from the trauma of the 3-year war. It was military rule at that time and Igbos had no voice and were not in a position to question the status quo.  Right after the war, Mazi Agwu Okpanku, was arrested for publishing an editorial titled “Killing Biafra” in the East Central State news paper called the Renaissance, in which he questioned the motives of General Gowon in changing the name of the body of water south of Port Harcourt from the Birth of Biafra to whatever the mane is now.  After his arrest, Igbos in Nigeia got the message that they should be seen and not heard. We practically lived in fear and our Igbo daughters became toys in the hands of Nigerian soldiers who raped them, got them pregnant and abandoned them with babies.

 

My personal opinion is that General Nwachukwu rose to the positions he had because Igbos were too afraid to question his background at the time, coupled with the fact that the Nigerian government he fought for during the war had the power to reward him after the war.  That explains why he became the Senator of Imo State, Federal Minister, Governor of Imo State, etc.  If it were to be now that Igbos are no longer afraid to ask questions, General Nwachukwu would not have risen to those positions.  So, Mazi Ogbonna, don’t confuse your readers with the military and political appointments and even the elected positions held by General Nwachukwu.

 

While we were trying to pick up the pieces of what was left of our wrecked lives after the war, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was busy reaping the rewards of his betrayal of the Igbos.  Now in his old age, he appears to love being pictured and seen in public in his Igbo red cap to depict him as patriotic and loyal Igbo leader.  General Nwacwukwu may have marveled and dazzled people like you, Mazi Ogbonna, with the positions he held.  However, none of that will ever wash away from his hands, the innocent blood of his brothers and sister - unless his hands are clean. If he participated in killing the Asaba Igbos, all he has to do is to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo. Mazi Ogbonna, if you love him so much and want him to lord over us as an Igbo leader, then advise him to come clean and apologize. Anything short of that is just adding salt to the injury.  There are certain things you cannot wash away with convoluted big grammar, such as the blood of the innocent especially when it is the blood of your own people.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, tell me this, if the northerners with the help of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu, had succeeded in wiping Igbos away from Nigeria (ethnic cleansing, holocaust, genocide) the way they had intended in 1966, where will General Nwachukwu find the Igbos to lead today?  We succeeded in resisting the Igbo holocaust by General Nwachukwu and his Nigerian army, the British government, Russian government and the Arab countries. Our strong and prolonged resistance is the reason that we have Igbos left today for him to lead. Mazi Ogbonna, do you get it?  Don’t call it jealousy, envy, hatred, crab mentality or any of your derogatory distractions.  Don’t even try to bring in Zik, Ojukwu or Okpara into your parallel and comparison because that will be an insult to the precious memories of those illustrious sons of Ana-Igbo.  After Judas betrayed Jesus, how can you bring him back to lead the 12 apostles?  After Cain murdered his brother Abel, how can you imagine him sharing in the linage of Adam?  After Absalom tried to overthrow his father, King David, by assassination, how could he partake in the kingdom, even if he had survived?

 

Sorry to say this but your thesis below is convoluted with lots of symbolisms without substance.  You want us to forget the past and face the future.  That may sound good but, what future can anyone have without the past?  Have you ever wondered why they teach history as a major subject in every institution of learning starting from primary schools? It is only in Africa that people do not pay attention to history and you wonder why we keep making the same mistakes?   Africans don’t even preserve and chronicle their own history. If not for the Europeans who started writing down African history, Africans will have nothing of record for posterity.  Most of our history were oral stories which eventually lost their accuracy when it passed through several generations.  Most of us today cannot even name our great grandparents but t we can easily recite the genealogy of European and American leaders and also biblical characters.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, please tell your hero and mentor, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu to please come clean. As you signed off your thesis below, you made no secret of the fact that you are “Nwoke Ovim, Isuikwuato, Abia State, Nigeria”, which explains the you are from the same village as General Nwachukwu, hence your effort to sell him to the rest of us as the new messiah of the Ndi-Igbo. Nice try but I beg you nna, stop this defecation on the graves of our fallen brothers and sister who gave their lives so you may be free today to insult their memory.  I don’t know how old you were during the Biafra struggle and if you participated in the struggle at all.  Assuming you participated, who did you forget the pain so easily? Were you dazzled and baffled out of your mind by General Nwachukwu’s material rewards for his betrayal of Ndi-Igbo?

 

It is good to preach forgiveness to the wounded, but Mazi Ogbonna, it will be more expedient to spend your energy in bringing the perpetrator to admit his wrong and apologize to his victims.  This will bring healing to both parties, and I rest.

 

Dr. Mike Okeke

Ifekanku

Atlanta

 

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Subject: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU - A HUMBLE GIANT WITH UNPRECEDENTED PERSONAL  ACHIEVEMENTS AND DELIVERABLES  NDIGBO REFUSE TO ACCEPT DUE TO JEALOUSY AND PERSONAL HATRED BY A FACTION.

 

I am one of those who strongly believe that our Igbo society is lagging due to bad leadership at all levels both here and abroad. As a result, I applaud people who use their democratic rights to air their views for the sake of improving the lot of Ndigbo.

 

In trying to right the evils of society especially when it concerns  Ndigbo, we should try to refrain from "mob mentality" or ganging against somebody purely based on  circumstances beyond his/her control. 

 

The many write-ups  against General Ike Nwachukwu are  uncalled for because no Igbo man I know has been given such a bad rap with political and social skewing. None of us is perfect, much less expecting another to approximate perfection. We all have our faults as humans and General Ike Nwachukwu has his. We should discard personal animosity and propel forward because the Nigerian-Biafra war ended  forty four (44) years ago.

 

Most of the people writing about General Ike Nwachukwu don't know anything about him or how his great personal accomplishments have nothing to do with Ndigbo as a people.

 

Ndigbo are good at isolating each other without assistance. But we will be the first to expect miracles when the individual survives from his/her educational, economic or political ordeal and begins to shine. 

 

Now let’s get General  Ike Nwachukwu 101:

 

1) General Ike Nwachukwu's father hailed from Ovim, Isuakwuato, Abia State, Nigeria. He was one of the earliest Igbo people who started work with Nigerian Railway Corporation(NRC) in Northern Nigeria. As a young man, he fell in love and married into a Royal family of then Northern Nigeria when Nigeria was intact as one. For those who believe in Royalty which the North, Yorubas and some Ndigbo aspire to, General Ike Nwachukwu’s maternal is as “Royal” as it can get.

 

2) As with so many Nigerian Railway staffs, his father was transferred to several important cities through out Northern and Western Nigeria. With his father’s  stint in Port Harcourt, General Ike Nwachukwu was born.

 

3) Both father and mother were very kind human beings. The mother spoke Igbo more than the average Igbo person I have ever met.

 

In those days, most children lived wherever their parents lived and since the North and West  had more high level Nigerian Railway establishments, General Ike Nwachukwu's orientation became interwoven  with his growth environment much as our children born and bred in the USA. Thy have no clues about our jokes or folk culture nor our sports which centers around soccer. Does any of our children know anything about our culture or language or the boundaries of those plots of land we brag about as our prized acquisitions in Ala-Igbo? Or does any of our children know their extended family members in Ala-Igbo? To our children, they are comfortable in the USA with myriad uncles and aunts, albeit imaginary. If not, we should wind back and imagine if General Nwachukwu committed any crime by being born into two big cultural and religious titans against each other? 

 

He attended his secondary school in Lagos before enlisting into the Nigerian Defense Academy in Kaduna. Mark my word, he was a very brilliant lad, a testament of the hard work of children of the then Nigerian Railways Corporation. Joining the army was a natural as an in-thing in those days for  people who wanted the excellent Free Education, NDA provided then. 

 

General Ike Nwachukwu rose meteorically until the eruption of the coup, counter coup and its uglier and heinous pogrom against Ndigbo in 1966.

 

Those who always want to cast aspersions and insults on General Ikenwachukwu should ask themselves this question. What would somebody in General Ike Nwachukwu's shoes do when Nigeria started to boil uncontrollably? Can we see if Nigeria were to engage in any military conflict, our children will be torn apart? who amongst us will send his son to go and fight for Nigeria? On what basis? Everybody likes to deal with a winner. Consequently,  General Ike Nwachukwu and family are better of with Nigeria being in piece  with no victor and no vanquished. 

 

We can recall, that  General Ojukwu did not want to fight the civil war because of his father's numerous properties dotted all over the Western  and Northern Nigeria. But Ndigbo prevailed on him to lead them into cessation which led to the out-break of a war. If due to  materialistic instinct, Gen. Ojukwu was hesitant about the war; what will a right thinking man expect from somebody whose blood is 50% Igbo and 50% Northerner to do?  Kill the North or Kill Ndigbo when his  family was enjoying milk and honey from Nigeria? Additionally, General Ike Nwachukwu’s family also had numerous edifices in Lagos and Northern Nigeria like many other Ndigbo then.

 

Without going into further plots, General Nwachukwu grew up sandwiched in unsurmountable obstacles as a result of his heritage beyond his control. Just look  at your children bred in the USA or UK. Where is their allegiance? Do they think like you and I? Are they as erudite as we were trying to sponge anything academic as our spring-board for a better life style in future? The answer is no because we as parents have done the hard work that placed them in the land of milk and honor much as  General Ike Nwachukwu. We cannot begrudge him unless we are comfortable when our Children will be discredited for not being Igbo enough.

 

Again, we are being plain short sighted to pass on our natural hatred to a culture or a section of Nigeria through our own son who had nothing to do with Nigerian ills. By birth, education and training, Nigeria has done a lot for General Nwachukwu much as the US has done for most us including  our first, second or third marriages. YES!

 

While growing up, he suffered injustices where the North would look at him and wished he was 100% theirs. For his mixed heritage he meandered through inherent discriminations and injustices where each move he made was checked and analyzed. Can we show some  compassionate by  understanding  what children from culturally mixed marriages go through? For General Ike Nwachukwu, there is a silver lining which Ndigbo are blindly refusing to leverage from. Like Joseph in the Bible, General Ike Nwachukwu is our conduit for higher achievements in Nigeria if we are wise and prudent.

 

Back to the write-ups. There is no way, any of the writers against General Ike Nwachukwu  sounds believable or convincing that General Ike Nwachukwu reversed the gains made under Chief Sam Mbakwe. If anything like that happened, it was the  Military Government and not General Ike Nwachukwu as an individual. It is a baseless charge consistent with giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it. 

 

Another thorny  issue  is that most of those writing against General Ike Nwachukwu are upset because it was under him that the Imo University was concentrated into one solid campus in line with UNN, UNILAG and Ibadan instead of mushrooming campuses all over Imo State. 

 

The Abia State University was sited in Imo soil which happens to be close to  his neck of the woods. Ogbu opi na-ehija ihu ya. At least, we should celebrate him because he built an educational institution  even though he was a military bras. What does that show? He had  the interest of Ndigbo at heart because anybody who supports education which Ndigbo used to admire and cherish  surely has the interest of Ndigbo at heart. Where the University was built should be secondary as long as it was built in Ala-Imo in particular or Ala-Igbo in general. When it comes to education and Ndigbo, Dr. Ukpabi Asika and Dr. Ofia Nwali finished Ndigbo and their academic aspirations when every school was taken over by the Government and debased  as that “high school” with watered down curriculum. Ndigbo have not rebounded even as I write. A man named General Ike Nwachukwu sited a full fledged University in Ala-Igbo and we are still cherry-picking where he sited it. Ndigbo anya ufu adighi nma ma ncha!

 

But there is one historic fact, none of the agitators against General Nwachukwu should know. Leadership through politics or military is very dynamic and opportunistic. Anything one administration failed to accomplish, an incoming will perform it and claim the credit or take the heat. As a result, none of the agitators knows  that the current Abia State University had been slated to be erected at its current location in Isukwuato as far back as during Dr. M.I. Okpara's regime in then Eastern Nigeria. General Ike Nwachukwu knew that fact and fulfilled that age-long void without hesitation. Others were hesitating and General Nwachukwu seized the moment and delivered. I am sure if one of you have the same opportunity, you would do exactly the same thing. So please, get over that. It is called political advantage or political opportunity and nobody should castigate General Ike Nwachukwu for building a University that was overdue. He did not invent the adage “Onye ube ruru ya rachaba”. Another Igbo man who raped us did.

 

Another callous allegation against General Nwachukwu has to do with the war because he did not run back to Ala-Igbo when others ran. He had no reason to. His life was not in danger. Where was he going to run to? From frying pan to fire? Hell no. Life does not work that way otherwise, how come most of us are still holed up here without running to go and change Nigeria with our magic wand. Give me a break, jealous hearts! 

 

Unlike his distractors will erroneously  claim, during the war, General Nwachukwu did not commit any atrocities against Ndigbo. If anything, he put his life on the line to save  Ndigbo. Go and ask some Deltan Ndigbo. He was untouched because of his unique family heritage, of Northern Nobility and Royalty. He also emerged to save his people when the Nigerian military was ravaging our towns and villages. Because he is still alive, certain things cannot be printed about him. Let's just live it at that.

 

Truly Ndigbo have a lot of heavy weights that can be called up to represent us. Yes, it does not have to come from the same crop of individuals. But I take an exception  at the notion that any Igbo man is more qualified than General Ike Nwachukwu.

 

Because of the heavy political weight on his shoulders trying to balance himself through the bad political under currents, it is very hard for many people especially Ndigbo to pinpoint what qualifies General Ike Nwachukwu to continue to be in the lime light in Nigerian affairs.

 

A small list of his accomplishments which I will water down should help us tame our animosity to our noble general:

 

1) General Ike Nwachukwu was the top Hancho  in NDA. During his tenure, he skewed the admission to suite many Igbo people. But knowing Ndigbo, we hardly appreciate each other. All we know is to harmer on 0.01% ill perception while discarding 99.99% of good deeds towards mankind. 

 

If you trace it, I am sure our darling General Onyeabo Azubuike Ihejirika is a bye-product of General  Ike Nwachukwu. You can quote me on that because I know my facts very well.

 

2) General Ike Nwachukwu was the first Military Governor of Imo State, Nigeria and he performed his best given the prevailing circumstances. The second Military Governor for the same Imo State was General Ike Nwchukwu’s brother from the same Town and same Nigerian Railway Corporation’s  educational and military trajectory. That’s what is eating up certain elements and section of Ala-Igbo. My brothers and sisters, hard work pays most of the time and the people from that neck of the wood General Ike Nwachukwu hails from have invested measurable services in Nigeria. Their rewards should not be hampered through baseless petitions and "ntaji anya" that lead nowhere. He that has been chosen is unstoppable.

 

3) General Ike Nwachukwu was elected to the Senate twice and only came out when he ran for the Presidency of Nigeria. If General Ike Nwachukwu is as bad as bemoaners  want us to believe, I am sure his people will be judging him more harshly. That will be enough to stop him from any elected office. 

 

Contrast him with General Ojukwu who is our darling. How come he did not get elected into one office in Nigeria?  Even his Nnewi people could not choose him to represent them in the Senate. What does that tell you? No man is perfect. For General Ike to be elected twice into the Senate speaks volumes. Ga jukwa ese. Ndigbo, we are good at bringing down our kith and kin. When can we stop our endless in-fighting against successful few amongst us?

 

3) General Ike Nwachukwu was  a Federal Labour Minister and he put many Ndigbo into strategic positions. Do you guys know Dr. George Obiozor? Go and ask him who mentored him into prominence as an Ambassador.

 

4) General Ike Nwachukwu was an External Affairs Minister and his record is unmatched by anybody.

 

For the myopics amongst us, General Ike Nwachukwu's vision and leadership were  the impetus upon which the current Nigeria House was built in NYC. He is the only Igbo man whose name is etched at number 5 on the wall in Manhattan, the capital of the World.

 

As I write, most of us are enjoying “Dual Citizenship” all over the globe. That was General Ike Nwachukwu’s handiwork because he realized that Ndigbo needed that leverage to survive. How many Northerners live in the USA? Ndigbo are holed up here with a freedom for economic, social and political success like most civilized societies of the world.

 

As soon as General Nwachukwu became the External Affairs Minister, that was the first assignment his people in NY asked him to do. And he delivered with alacrity. Thanks to him for his foresight of giving Ndigbo the "international hook to catch their  own fishes and feed themselves  comfortably. Let petitioners waste their time.

 

When you stand all other Ndigbo in Nigeria  toe-to-toe, you can begin to see that only a few Ndigbo had reached General Nwachukwu’s zenith. The people he is leading know the facts even though we are here as Internet warriors. 

 

A bunch of us are still stuck in the proverbial “Nwoke lucha ogu, Nwannyi enwere akuko” mentality. General Ike Nwachukwu has fought gallantly without assistance from any Igbo quarters. 

 

That he is tapped to lead Ndigbo means that after all said and done, we need people that  the rest of Nigeria knows their quality and service to Nigeria. We have all  accepted Nigeria as our country irrespective of the unfortunate war. If we have and are mingling with same people that killed us and starved us to death, why can we not forget and forgive one of us who is doing his very best to be one us given his blood line? Do you rather he dies or evaporates from the earth’s surface? Mbanu, God forbids that!

 

We should be tactful to propel forward without counting backwards. The war has been fought with untold losses and numerous mistakes were made. Some Biafran Officers who are still alive today got their nicknames during the war because of how many Igbo soldiers they killed or maimed.During the war, our heroic son, Zik of African ran to Nigeria and he was accepted. How many of you have written anything against him or did that disqualify him from being an Igbo man? That General Ike Nwachukwu’s mother is from the North does not make him less of a human being or less Onye Igbo than any of us. He stands tall as an illustrious son of Ovim, Isukwuato, Abia State, Nigeria.

 

After the war, a Northern President of Nigeria pardoned General Ojukwu and he was assimilated into Nigerian polity. He ran to become a Senator amidst his popularity and lost.

 

Ndigbo, the war has ended and the Military era is over. We are in a democratic era. Let us eschew back biting and the unending crab in a barrel mentality to weave ourselves into political and economic success of today and tomorrow.

 

General Ike Nwachukwu by birth is a son of an Igbo man. He was born in Port Harcourt, a one time part of Eastern Nigeria or Ala-Igbo. He proudly speaks Igbo better than an average Igbo man who has not left his village shores. He is an International titan amongst Ndigbo, external Affairs Minister.  His birth, education, training all culminate to making  him a unique Nigerian. Ndigbo should be proud of him as black people all over the world are proud that a son of an immigrant Kenyan is a leader of the FREE WORLD. Jealousy of extra-ordinary proportion on one of us showcases us as the failures we are as a people. We should act like grown ups  and be ready to be accepted in the pedestal of world maturity.

 

What General Ike Nwachukwu has achieved and done for Ndigbo single handedly can only be dreamed and imagined by arm-chair Internet gurus of no comparison.

 

Why can’t we let General Ike Nwachukwu to be judged by his maker? God is the only person whose judgement matters.

 

Best of luck to you all.

 

Mazi Ogbonna

Nwoke Ovim, Isuikwuato, Abia State, Nigeria. 

 

Long island, New York

 

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[Chukwuemeka Okala]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is absolutely hard to believe that General Ike Nwachukwu, a fine, patriotic and very intelligent gentleman would agree to turn the gun against his kith and kin under any circumstances during the senseless civil war. Impossible!

I would advise that you guys devote more time to properly investigate all the allegations leveled against General Ike Nwachukwu before you kill one of your brightest brothers and father for nothing.

I'm driven by your (our brothers of Igbo extraction in the cyberspace) antecedents to have serious reservations about all the stinkers you have written unbridled against this fine gentleman, by the name of Gen. Ike Nwachukwu, who has served Nigeria meritoriously in many notable capacities. Examples:

You have said many unprintable things -- I mean blatant lies against the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo about the unfortunate civil war and you continue to say them till today for propaganda purposes. You have peddled multifarious lies against the person of late Prof. Sam Aluko about the war. You accused him of nonexistent roles that you said he played during the war and you compel yourselves to believe in your own lies. And you now hate him for no just cause. You have even extended that undeserved hatred to his son Prof. Bolaji Aluko by hammering on a role he never played against Igbo students in Howard where he was a HOD. You have vilified my people and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality and our relationship with you -- Igbo ethnic nationality. And you continue to tell your lies and compel yourselves to believe in them till today. The examples are endless. 

You (I mean those of you that belong to e-groups) have a gang-up mentality that makes you too gullible and vulnerable to fall for cheap propaganda with no room for benefit of doubt or a consideration for investigation. Too bad!

If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference? Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience? Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war? 

You may be surprised to know that, though he was a Nigerian officer during the war, he may not have killed any of his kinsmen or been instrumental to the killing of his brothers and sisters. You may find out that he did the opposite instead. Why not investigate first?

Until, otherwise, the contrary is proved, I find it absolutely difficult to believe your allegations against General Ike Nwachukwu. The man is too good to do what you say he did!

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

 

 

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[Vin Otuonye]

And look who is talking?
 
See how you brought Aluko and Awolowo into it just to get cheap recognition from those that always defend you.
 
And since you claim you and your people are not Igbo, now, you know better than Igbos on who their true leaders are? Go siddon. What do you and Ike Nwachukwu have in common? You are both saboteurs'.
 
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye 

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"..........You have said many unprintable things -- I mean blatant lies against the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo about the unfortunate civil war and you continue to say them till today for propaganda purposes. You have peddled multifarious lies against the person of late Prof. Sam Aluko about the war. You accused him of nonexistent roles that you said he played during the war and you compel yourselves to believe in your own lies. And you now hate him for no just cause. You have even extended that undeserved hatred to his son Prof. Bolaji Aluko by hammering on a role he never played against Igbo students in Howard where he was a HOD. You have vilified my people and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality............You (I mean those of you that belong to e-groups) have a gang-up mentality that makes you too gullible and vulnerable to fall for cheap propaganda with no room for benefit of doubt or a consideration for investigation. Too bad".............BY CHIEF OKALA.

 

 

 

AND THEN TO TOP IT ALL, THEY CALLED AN IKWERRE MAN A DESPICABLE NAME........"IGBO".

IGBO PEOPLE NA WA FOR UNA SEF.

 

IGBOS ARE HATEFUL PEOPLE, BUT THEY TURN AROUND WHEN PEOPLE FIGHT BACK, AND COMPLAIN THEY ARE HATED.

 

IF AN IKWERRE SAYS "I AM NOT IGBO", WHY FORCE HIM TO BECOME IGBO?

EGUN MAN FROM BADAGRY WON'T BE FORCED TO BECOME A YORUBA.

AN EDO MAN, THOUGH A COUSIN, WON'T BE CALLED A YORUBA BY ANY YORUBA PERSON.

AN ITSHEKIRI, THOUGH A COUSIN, WON'T BE CALLED BY ANY OTHER NAME THAN WHICH HE CHOOSES FOR HIMSELF.

EVEN A CONFUSED IJEBU MAN, WON'T BE FORCED TO BECOME A YORUBA IF HE CHOOSES TO BE SUDANESE.

 

IGBOS SHOULD LEARN FROM YORUBA, ON HOW TO LIVE AND LET OTHERS LIVE THEIR LIVES.

IMANJAKIRI BEING SHOWCASED BY PEOPLE LIKE VIN FINE BOY OTUONYE  AND COMPANY WOULD ONLY LEAD TO THE EASTERN MINORITIES HATING THE IGBOS FOR ETERNITY.

I SAY MINE.

SHIKENA,

AFIS, LOVER OF IGBOS. 

 

Shikena.

afis

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is absolutely hard to believe that General Ike Nwachukwu, a fine, patriotic and very intelligent gentleman would agree to turn the gun against his kith and kin under any circumstances during the senseless civil war. Impossible!

I would advise that you guys devote more time to properly investigate all the allegations leveled against General Ike Nwachukwu before you kill one of your brightest brothers and father for nothing.

I'm driven by your (our brothers of Igbo extraction in the cyberspace) antecedents to have serious reservations about all the stinkers you have written unbridled against this fine gentleman, by the name of Gen. Ike Nwachukwu, who has served Nigeria meritoriously in many notable capacities. Examples:

You have said many unprintable things -- I mean blatant lies against the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo about the unfortunate civil war and you continue to say them till today for propaganda purposes. You have peddled multifarious lies against the person of late Prof. Sam Aluko about the war. You accused him of nonexistent roles that you said he played during the war and you compel yourselves to believe in your own lies. And you now hate him for no just cause. You have even extended that undeserved hatred to his son Prof. Bolaji Aluko by hammering on a role he never played against Igbo students in Howard where he was a HOD. You have vilified my people and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality and our relationship with you -- Igbo ethnic nationality. And you continue to tell your lies and compel yourselves to believe in them till today. The examples are endless. 

You (I mean those of you that belong to e-groups) have a gang-up mentality that makes you too gullible and vulnerable to fall for cheap propaganda with no room for benefit of doubt or a consideration for investigation. Too bad!

If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference? Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience? Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war? 

You may be surprised to know that, though he was a Nigerian officer during the war, he may not have killed any of his kinsmen or been instrumental to the killing of his brothers and sisters. You may find out that he did the opposite instead. Why not investigate first?

Until, otherwise, the contrary is proved, I find it absolutely difficult to believe your allegations against General Ike Nwachukwu. The man is too good to do what you say he did!

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

 

 

On Thursday, 20 March 2014, 11:18, MIKE OKIGBO <ote-nk...@msn.com> wrote:

 I endorse this presentation with all my heart . And to add that during the war General Ike Nwachukwu bore Omar Sanda to hide his identity. Similarly , Theophilus Danjuma , changed his name to Yakubu Danjuma during the war and reverted to Theophilus after the genocidal war.
 
The intention of all these name changers was to help mobilise the Arab world and Cameroun under  Ahmadu Ahidjo against the infidel Biafrans. And so the Governor (a christian) of the Camerounian state that shares border with Eastern Region was removed for expressing sympathy for the plight of Ndigbo . This paved the way for the effective blockade of Biafra. And the Arab pilots , mostly Egyptians and Syrians, were secured to bomb women and children at Biafran Market places.
 
Do not forget that Yakubu Gowon sounds like a moslem name and the Arabs thought he was a moslem fighting a jihad.
 
Ike Nwachukwu's father was not married to a member of Arewa royal family. He married a slave of the royal family.
 
otenkwu 

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Olodo Afis:

What do you think the Igbo golden rule of Egbe bere Ugo ebere, nke si ibeya ebere, nkwu kwa ya, mean? Olodo Afis, it means live and let live.

The Igbos have been practising that since time immemorial. You sure did not disappoint mebecause I said sabo Emeka Okala is pandering to people like you and here you are swallowing his baits. 

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"AND THEN TO TOP IT ALL, THEY CALLED AN IKWERRE MAN A DESPICABLE NAME........"IGBO".

IGBO PEOPLE NA WA FOR UNA SEF"-Baba Afis

Afis the smart one, don't be fooled by that gimmick. Nobody is forcing anybody to be who they are by nature. If you chose tomorrow to say you are not black or Yoruba...in your inner mind, in peoples mind and in reality your claim doesn't make you not to be either black or Yoruba. It just remains your opinion.

Now follow me brother, survival instinct is inherent in everyman, and people adopt every strategy; and some Igbo speakers who claim not to be Igbo to avoid the fall out of the civil war are only playing their survival instinct the time demands...and they are not alone in this game.

Read the qoute below from a popular jewish site, The Tablet Magazine 

"But 68 percent of Jews said in a survey they hide their Jewishness sometimes"- Tablet Magazine.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/166678/in-europe-anti-semitism-looks-like-other-hate-crimes?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=9291b25c53-3_20_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-9291b25c53-207087501#undefined

My brother, the Igbos: whether in the Eastern heartland, South or West of the Niger are playing the chess game well and its sweet that you will continue to have a loong guess. Welcome brother.

Peace!

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[afis]

I only add-on to what Chief Okala stated so eloquently, below as excerpted:  

 

"..........You have said many unprintable things -- I mean blatant lies against the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo about the unfortunate civil war and you continue to say them till today for propaganda purposes. You have peddled multifarious lies against the person of late Prof. Sam Aluko about the war. You accused him of nonexistent roles that you said he played during the war and you compel yourselves to believe in your own lies. And you now hate him for no just cause. You have even extended that undeserved hatred to his son Prof. Bolaji Aluko by hammering on a role he never played against Igbo students in Howard where he was a HOD. You have vilified my people and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality............You (I mean those of you that belong to e-groups) have a gang-up mentality that makes you too gullible and vulnerable to fall for cheap propaganda with no room for benefit of doubt or a consideration for investigation. Too bad".............BY CHIEF OKALA.

 

Shikena.

afis

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Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"AND THEN TO TOP IT ALL, THEY CALLED AN IKWERRE MAN A DESPICABLE NAME........"IGBO".
IGBO PEOPLE NA WA FOR UNA SEF"-Baba Afis

Afis the smart one, don't be fooled by that gimmick. Nobody is forcing anybody to be who they are by nature. If you chose tomorrow to say you are not black or Yoruba...in your inner mind, in peoples mind and in reality your claim doesn't make you not to be either black or Yoruba. It just remains your opinion.

Now follow me brother, survival instinct is inherent in everyman, and people adopt every strategy; and some Igbo speakers who claim not to be Igbo to avoid the fall out of the civil war are only playing their survival instinct the time demands...and they are not alone in this game.

Read the qoute below from a popular jewish site, The Tablet Magazine 

"But 68 percent of Jews said in a survey they hide their Jewishness sometimes"- Tablet Magazine.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/166678/in-europe-anti-semitism-looks-like-other-hate-crimes?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=9291b25c53-3_20_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-9291b25c53-207087501#undefined

My brother, the Igbos: whether in the Eastern heartland, South or West of the Niger are playing the chess game well and its sweet that you will continue to have a loong guess. Welcome brother.

Peace!

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Emeka, everything said about late AWO who was Satanic in action were true, as living witness of all his devilish activities. About General Ike Nwachukwu who was not known during the war until he became the governor of Imo State. I think much investigation should be carried about him and if he is guilty as charged, he should step aside and should not represent Ndi Igbo in any level, that will be his pay price.

Sir Ugo G.C.Umunnakwe.

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:21:36 +0000 (GMT)

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is absolutely hard to believe that General Ike Nwachukwu, a fine, patriotic and very intelligent gentleman would agree to turn the gun against his kith and kin under any circumstances during the senseless civil war. Impossible!

 

I would advise that you guys devote more time to properly investigate all the allegations leveled against General Ike Nwachukwu before you kill one of your brightest brothers and father for nothing.

 

I'm driven by your (our brothers of Igbo extraction in the cyberspace) antecedents to have serious reservations about all the stinkers you have written unbridled against this fine gentleman, by the name of Gen. Ike Nwachukwu, who has served Nigeria meritoriously in many notable capacities. Examples:

 

You have said many unprintable things -- I mean blatant lies against the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo about the unfortunate civil war and you continue to say them till today for propaganda purposes. You have peddled multifarious lies against the person of late Prof. Sam Aluko about the war. You accused him of nonexistent roles that you said he played during the war and you compel yourselves to believe in your own lies. And you now hate him for no just cause. You have even extended that undeserved hatred to his son Prof. Bolaji Aluko by hammering on a role he never played against Igbo students in Howard where he was a HOD. You have vilified my people and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality and our relationship with you -- Igbo ethnic nationality. And you continue to tell your lies and compel yourselves to believe in them till today. The examples are endless. 

 

You (I mean those of you that belong to e-groups) have a gang-up mentality that makes you too gullible and vulnerable to fall for cheap propaganda with no room for benefit of doubt or a consideration for investigation. Too bad!

 

If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference? Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience? Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war? 

 

You may be surprised to know that, though he was a Nigerian officer during the war, he may not have killed any of his kinsmen or been instrumental to the killing of his brothers and sisters. You may find out that he did the opposite instead. Why not investigate first?

 

Until, otherwise, the contrary is proved, I find it absolutely difficult to believe your allegations against General Ike Nwachukwu. The man is too good to do what you say he did!

 

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thursday, 20 March 2014, 11:18, MIKE OKIGBO <ote-nk...@msn.com> wrote:

 I endorse this presentation with all my heart . And to add that during the war General Ike Nwachukwu bore Omar Sanda to hide his identity. Similarly , Theophilus Danjuma , changed his name to Yakubu Danjuma during the war and reverted to Theophilus after the genocidal war.
 
The intention of all these name changers was to help mobilise the Arab world and Cameroun under  Ahmadu Ahidjo against the infidel Biafrans. And so the Governor (a christian) of the Camerounian state that shares border with Eastern Region was removed for expressing sympathy for the plight of Ndigbo . This paved the way for the effective blockade of Biafra. And the Arab pilots , mostly Egyptians and Syrians, were secured to bomb women and children at Biafran Market places.
 
Do not forget that Yakubu Gowon sounds like a moslem name and the Arabs thought he was a moslem fighting a jihad.
 
Ike Nwachukwu's father was not married to a member of Arewa royal family. He married a slave of the royal family.
 
otenkwu 

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Subject: RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:26:24 -0400

Mazi Ogbonna,

 

I admire your passion and dedication but not your candor in your defense of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu.  The candor in your defense is questionable to me because your entire presentation appears to be a total distraction from the core issue (concern) raised by those of us who are offended and insulted by having him as the leader of the Igbo delegates to the national conference.  In your thesis below, you frequently used offensive and derogatory words such as jealousy, envy, hate, crab mentality, internet tigers, etc, to address those of us who have voiced out serious concerns about the character of General Nwachukwu and his loyalty/patriotism regarding the collective interest of Ndi Igbo.  That makes your defense of General Nwachukwu  to sound hollow – my poinion.

 

The core question is this:  What role did General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu play in the cold blooded massacre of about 700 innocent Asaba men, women and children and their burial in a mass grave in September of 1967?  Some of us including myself who participated in the Biafra struggle are still living today and the pain of the Asaba genocide is still ever fresh in our memories.  Dancing around this crucial question in an effort to sell General Nwachukwu to us as a loyal and patriotic Igbo leader, is rather offensive to me.

 

I have no issues with where he  was born or by whom because that was not a decision he made by himself.  You cannot hold his genealogy against him.  However, just like everyone of us, he is accountable and responsible  for the choices and decisions he made as a human being.  He cannot join in shedding  innocent Igbo blood at a time when it was fashionable in Nigeria to do so, and now that Igbos have survived the holocaust, he is being exulted as an Igbo leader by those who care nothing and know nothing about the millions of Igbo lives lost in our struggle to stop Igbo haters in Nigerian form erasing Igbos from the face of the earth.  

 

Did he help Muritala Mohamed in killing and burying about 700 Asaba people in a mass grave? What role did he play in the Asabe genocide?  General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu cannot have it both ways. He needs to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo.  Yes, we know that to err is human but to acknowledge your error and to apologize to your victim is noble and pacifying. To switch sides (jump ship) and parade himself as a leader of those he shed their blood and helped to crush, is very arrogant in my view.

 

General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was appointed the military Governor of Imo State under Buhari at a time when Igbos were trying to recover from the trauma of the 3-year war. It was military rule at that time and Igbos had no voice and were not in a position to question the status quo.  Right after the war, Mazi Agwu Okpanku, was arrested for publishing an editorial titled “Killing Biafra” in the East Central State news paper called the Renaissance, in which he questioned the motives of General Gowon in changing the name of the body of water south of Port Harcourt from the Birth of Biafra to whatever the mane is now.  After his arrest, Igbos in Nigeia got the message that they should be seen and not heard. We practically lived in fear and our Igbo daughters became toys in the hands of Nigerian soldiers who raped them, got them pregnant and abandoned them with babies.

 

My personal opinion is that General Nwachukwu rose to the positions he had because Igbos were too afraid to question his background at the time, coupled with the fact that the Nigerian government he fought for during the war had the power to reward him after the war.  That explains why he became the Senator of Imo State, Federal Minister, Governor of Imo State, etc.  If it were to be now that Igbos are no longer afraid to ask questions, General Nwachukwu would not have risen to those positions.  So, Mazi Ogbonna, don’t confuse your readers with the military and political appointments and even the elected positions held by General Nwachukwu.

 

While we were trying to pick up the pieces of what was left of our wrecked lives after the war, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was busy reaping the rewards of his betrayal of the Igbos.  Now in his old age, he appears to love being pictured and seen in public in his Igbo red cap to depict him as patriotic and loyal Igbo leader.  General Nwacwukwu may have marveled and dazzled people like you, Mazi Ogbonna, with the positions he held.  However, none of that will ever wash away from his hands, the innocent blood of his brothers and sister - unless his hands are clean. If he participated in killing the Asaba Igbos, all he has to do is to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo. Mazi Ogbonna, if you love him so much and want him to lord over us as an Igbo leader, then advise him to come clean and apologize. Anything short of that is just adding salt to the injury.  There are certain things you cannot wash away with convoluted big grammar, such as the blood of the innocent especially when it is the blood of your own people.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, tell me this, if the northerners with the help of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu, had succeeded in wiping Igbos away from Nigeria (ethnic cleansing, holocaust, genocide) the way they had intended in 1966, where will General Nwachukwu find the Igbos to lead today?  We succeeded in resisting the Igbo holocaust by General Nwachukwu and his Nigerian army, the British government, Russian government and the Arab countries. Our strong and prolonged resistance is the reason that we have Igbos left today for him to lead. Mazi Ogbonna, do you get it?  Don’t call it jealousy, envy, hatred, crab mentality or any of your derogatory distractions.  Don’t even try to bring in Zik, Ojukwu or Okpara into your parallel and comparison because that will be an insult to the precious memories of those illustrious sons of Ana-Igbo.  After Judas betrayed Jesus, how can you bring him back to lead the 12 apostles?  After Cain murdered his brother Abel, how can you imagine him sharing in the linage of Adam?  After Absalom tried to overthrow his father, King David, by assassination, how could he partake in the kingdom, even if he had survived?

 

Sorry to say this but your thesis below is convoluted with lots of symbolisms without substance.  You want us to forget the past and face the future.  That may sound good but, what future can anyone have without the past?  Have you ever wondered why they teach history as a major subject in every institution of learning starting from primary schools? It is only in Africa that people do not pay attention to history and you wonder why we keep making the same mistakes?   Africans don’t even preserve and chronicle their own history. If not for the Europeans who started writing down African history, Africans will have nothing of record for posterity.  Most of our history were oral stories which eventually lost their accuracy when it passed through several generations.  Most of us today cannot even name our great grandparents but t we can easily recite the genealogy of European and American leaders and also biblical characters.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, please tell your hero and mentor, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu to please come clean. As you signed off your thesis below, you made no secret of the fact that you are “Nwoke Ovim, Isuikwuato, Abia State, Nigeria”,which explains the you are from the same village as General Nwachukwu, hence your effort to sell him to the rest of us as the new messiah of the Ndi-Igbo. Nice try butI beg you nna, stop this defecation on the graves of our fallen brothers and sister who gave their lives so you may be free today to insult their memory.  I don’t know how old you were during the Biafra struggle and if you participated in the struggle at all.  Assuming you participated, who did you forget the pain so easily? Were you dazzled and baffled out of your mind by General Nwachukwu’s material rewards for his betrayal of Ndi-Igbo?

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[afis]

"What do you think the Igbo golden rule of Egbe bere Ugo ebere, nke si ibeya ebere, nkwu kwa ya, mean? Olodo Afis, it means live and let live.".............By Vin fine Boy Otuonye.

Afis comment: To say it.......one thing.

To live it........another thing.

Igbos that we all know in the Nigeria we grew up, can't "live and let others live".

If an Igbo man owned a stall in the market, he engages in burglarizing his neighbors, and until they move away.

That is not an "Ugo ebere......." philosophy.

To steal and bankrupt others.......yep that's about it, bro.

Shikena.

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[afis]

Igo Umu-Dey-Cry or Umuman-kwe, I am sure you ain't talking about Chief Obafemi Awolowo. I saw it the first time and ignored you, I can see you wanted my attention, well Bisimillahi, you gat it.

 

Probably, Igo-na-bottle Imu-Dey-Cry, you are too confused and too inebriated on Ogogoro, to know the difference between your Satanic Father and Awo?
Check your history again, and let's yabis.

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Nwanna Emeka Okala:

 

One thing that I have come to know about you is that once you like a person, all your sense of objectivity in discussing his/her mistakes and or failings go out the window. To you, everything about your person of admiration becomes fully subjective and one sided. For you one I consider well read, that makes not for sound education and advancement of learning.

 

You are free to make spirited defence of Awo, Aluko, Ike Nwachukwu, etc., based on your subjective perception of them. But please, do it in avoidance of cheap recognition from their followers. You could have made your points that support Ike Nwachukwu as you know him without the unnecessary analogy of what you perceive as propaganda pot shots against Awo, and Alukos. I see no bearing(s) there with the case in discussion. Apparently, you are hoping for a reinforced endearment from the Awoists in the e-forums, including Bolaji Aluko. I believe Awoists can and do a better job of defending Awo than the cheap recognition you sought; the same way that Bolaji Aluko remains ably capable defending his late father and self anytime the need arises.

 

Now about Ike Nwachukwu; I have read your two spirited defence of him in this matter. You see, your defence cannot be because you really believe that he is being falsely accused. What you are doing is just a proxy fight against those you have locked horns with severally on your chicanery of “Ikwerre is not Igbo” and “Ikwerre is Igbo”. Put it this way, yours is a case of my enemy’s enemy is my friend and my friend’s enemy is my enemy. A subterfuge, I say.

 

That stated, let me turn to retired General Ike Nwachukwu being a member talkless leading the Igbo delegation to the National Conference; I will repeat my earlier stated views on it. And that is, if I had anything to do with that decision, he will neither be a member nor Igbo leader to the Conference. It is like an Arab Israeli with PLO sympathy as a lead member of an Israeli delegation to an Arab/Israeli peace conference. The Igbo like the Yorubas have a way of thumbing their noses at sons that betray their cause(s). And betrayal of our Biafra cause arouses serious hard feeling. Till today, the name Ukpabi Asika remains a pariah in any Igbo gathering. As I stated prior, the only crime of Obasanjo against the Yorubas for which most of them hate him is that he did not hand over to Awo in 1979. Now, imagine that he joined forces with an enemy bent on exterminating the generality of the Yorubas and in the end, have the bloods of over 3000 thousands Yorubas wasted on his hands. Names like, Olu Onagoruwa, Lateef Jakande, Ebenezer Babatope, etc., are not endeared in Yoruba gatherings simply because of their roles in Abacha’s government and turning their backs on NADECO and late Abiola’s democracy mandate. Amongs the Yorubas, there are those that will not name their children after Akintola or Fani-Kayode on account of Awo. It is all on account of politics and not tragic war that took millions of lives. Imagine that!

 

The role of Ike Nwachukwu along with Murtala Mohammed, Alani Akirinade, etc., in the Asaba massacre of Delta Igbos is documented. You asked for investigation and documented evidence, right? Very well Emeka; please, go read Chief Emma Okocha’s “Blood on the Niger”. I have an autographed copy he sent to me when it was published. If you read it and you are not objectively disordered, you may have a feel of those against his membership in the Igbo delegation to the National Conference. I also feel that the many years after that orgy of bloodletting, he could be regretting and feeling bad for his actions. Perhaps, he found himself in a situation he could not help as articulated by Mazi Ogbonna. He may have also gone on to do other good works for Ndi-Igbo. But the three words, “I am sorry” for whatever role I may have played during the war will go a long way in ameliorating the hurt feelings by most Igbo, his brothers and sisters.

 

If I may respond to some questions you posed; come with me. You asked,

“If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference?”

 

Comments - Emeka, it is not a case of him being “bad” or good; it is some hurt feelings for innocent bloods wasted while he watched and or participated in the butchery. Those that nominated him to the delegation on National Conference may have thought his presence would get the Igbo some good mileage. It could also, be because he lobbied for it as a way to say, my mistakes not minding, please, I am one of you. It could also, be on the basis of personal friendship with those “at home [that] nominated him to lead the Igbo team for national conference.”

 

You asked,

“Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience?”

 

Comments – Emeka, you of all persons should know elections to any public office in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder and with the most money to spend and bribe the electorate. It is not because of how much you are loved or political manifesto. Amidst punishing poverty, whoever spends the most gets the most votes cast. In the senatorial zone he represented, he has the money to buy most peoples votes and he did.

 

You asked,

“Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin?”

 

Comments – Why not? Especially, if such will rehabilitate his name, image and standing among “his kith and kin” Everyone in life at one time or the other looks for the appreciation and acceptance of his people, particularly, if at some time past, he/she wronged them.

 

You asked,

“Has he no conscience?”

 

Comments – You may be the one best fit to asked him that question when next you see him. He is in a better position to answer your question. Anyone else answering question about conscience for another will be simply, conjecture(s), guess work.

 

You asked,

“Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war?” 

 

Comments – It is not propaganda but rather aggrieved brothers and sisters cries based on documented facts. He has not denied the role(s) he played but justified them, he may have. And it is not “simply because he served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war” but that, he could have still used that position to save the lives senselessly massacred.

 

Emeka, remember that Chief Obi Nwali, your fellow Ikwerre iconic man was murdered for holding and asserting publicly that he was an Igbo and thumbing his nose at those Ikwerre like you that rejected their Igbo ethnicity. Imagine that it is documented he fought with Ndi-Igbo in the killings of Ikwerre sons and daughters. Well; knowing you this analogy my not ring true to you.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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[Wilson Iguade]

"... You have vilified my people [Ikwerre ethnic nationals] and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality and our relationship with you -- Igbo ethnic nationality. And you continue to tell your lies and compel yourselves to believe in them till today." By Mazi Okala

Where "YOU" in the above could mean or means, according to the author of the above cited quote "... those of you [of Igbo extraction] that belong to e-groups"

NB: italicized comments or phrases in the bracket, outside the cited quotes, and below statement are mine for clarifications or emphases.

There is nothing to add on my end, above is crystal clear with regards to the intended message. 

Lord have mercy, Nigeria is growing up oOo! Peace! "I"

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On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:36 PM, "Dr. Mike Okeke" <dr.o...@ebonypages.com> wrote:

Mazi Asagwara,

 

That was a very sound, wise, objective, mature and on-point response you gave to Emeka Okala – void of emotion, sentiment and insult.

 

Thank you immensely.

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[Afis]

Wilson Iguade, my Iguana man, I have stated it here in the past that the Ijaws and the rest of those oppressed minorities in the East and North, are now open-eye.
To top it all, the Eastern region minorities own the bulk of the crude oil.

Eledumare haa great sense of humor. I can imagine God sitting or standing or laying down or whatever position comfortable for Baba God, and Him just laughing at the Foolishness called Naija Tribal majority.

The last dance belongs to the minorities.

The last laugh wholly belongs to Eledua.

Waiting to Exhale!

Shikena,

Afis

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[Afis]

"Nwanna Emeka Okala:

One thing that I have come to know about you is that once you like a person, all your sense of objectivity in discussing his/her mistakes and or failings go out the window. To you, everything about your person of admiration becomes fully subjective and one sided. For you one I consider well read, that makes not for sound education and advancement of learning."........By Dr Asagwara.

.........Afis thinks Dr Asagwara should use his own advise more often than wishing others to take his. 

Once Nwanna Ken is fixated on a person and hated the person, all cautions go into the wind.

"Sound education......blah and blah...." should start from taking your own "sound advise" first, not in learning from others.

 

The Conscience is the greatest of all teachers, which tells even the child when not to cross a street to pick a lost ball. 

The Conscience gives advise, and cautions when error seems inevitable, and Conscience never quits, and Conscience never goes on strike, never demands Udoji, and Conscience never ever retired on the Owner of Conscience. 

So therefore, Afis concludes that if Nwanna Ken Asagwara could have taken his own first adviser seriously, he won't be seeing Awo as his lifetime focus of Hatred.

Dr Asagwara, you are wearing yourself down fixated on Hating Chief Awolowo and others that you wrongly accused of causing the havoc that destroyed your people.

Your Conscience must for once have told you of how wrong you were, but with the Igbo's "Girimonkayi" I-no-go-gree Mentality, you must have wished away or pushed aside your Conscience, and then continued on your Hateful sojourn to Perdition.

Shikena,

Afis

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[Vin Otuonye]

Olodo Afis:
 
Pick a dictionary and check the meaning of the word conscience before you start regurgitating what you don't know.
 
Safety reasons tell a child when not to cross the street to pick a stray ball not conscience.
 
Conscience is a person's moral sense of right and wrong.
 
Awolowo's policies of starvation is a weapon of war contributed to the starvation of Eastern children during the war. Even your own conscience, if you have any, should prick you.
 
I have said all along that you are olodo and you quickly fell and took Emeka Okala's bait by getting involved in this issue immediately Emeka Okala mentioned Awolowo's name. It was a deliberate attempt by Emeka Okala to curry sympathy from Awoist like you and you fell for it. This has always been Emeka Okala's modus operandi and discerning minds among us know it.
 

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[afis]

"..........Awolowo's policies of starvation is a weapon of war contributed to the starvation of Eastern children during the war. Even your own conscience, if you have any, should prick you.".........By Vin Fine Boy, Friend of Olodo hahahahaha!

Afis comment: If Vin Fine Boy Otuonye believed Chief Obafemi Awolowo was the planner and policy-maker of the War strategies for Naija Army boys during the Uncivil War, including the "starvation of Igbos", then Vin Otuonye is the biggest Olodo-Rapata that eats fish-eye for lunch.

 

Chief Obafemi Awolowo never put on an Army Khaki in his lifetime, he never joined the Nigerian Army, never served in any military rank or unit all in his lifetime.

And as any keen observer of Nigeria will attest to, no one is more dictatorial, more arrogant, more force-driven than an Army Officer in the Nigerian Army. 

No civilian, including Awo, can give a Nigerian Army officer an order, the officer gives the orders.

 

In your sanest of minds as Human not Igbo, Vin fine Boy Otuonye, how then could Awo had given orders on starvation policies no civilian or Awo had no control over?

You Igbos let your Hatefulness eat you up inside out, to the extent that little things that are illogical to anyone, become magnifinied into sensible products of Hate in your Igbo Minds.

Awo was the Finance minister, the Army boys made War policies, and the Army boys enforced it on all Fronts.

 

By the way, like the Hiroshima bomb that stopped the WWII, I fully support the "Starvation policy" because it helped save more lives on the Nigerian side.

My relative, Sabitiu-Oriaran, after three years of dilly-dallying "to be or not to be", the day he summed up courage and joined the Army, was the day Effiong Surrendered.  You see, a life was saved.  

 

Is that not what warring is all about?

To minimize your material and human losses, while maximizing the Enemy's casualties until an Effiong surrendered?

Shikena.

afis

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Olodo Afis:
 
Pick a dictionary and check the meaning of the word conscience before you start regurgitating what you don't know.
 
Safety reasons tell a child when not to cross the street to pick a stray ball not conscience.
 
Conscience is a person's moral sense of right and wrong.
 
Awolowo's policies of starvation is a weapon of war contributed to the starvation of Eastern children during the war. Even your own conscience, if you have any, should prick you.
 
I have said all along that you are olodo and you quickly fell and took Emeka Okala's bait by getting involved in this issue immediately Emeka Okala mentioned Awolowo's name. It was a deliberate attempt by Emeka Okala to curry sympathy from Awoist like you and you fell for it. This has always been Emeka Okala's modus operandi and discerning minds among us know it.
 

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[MIKE OKIGBO]

"War is too dangerous to be left for the military alone to prosecute." If there was a Nuremburg, Awo also would go to the gallows.
 
The only thing I accept and would defend in any forum is, an Awo prime minister at independence would have made Nigeria a great country. There would not be need for January 15th and the civil war that followed. Awo was an Economist and at Independence Nigeria needed an Economist.
 
Zik was a Philosopher and an Idealist and it was his idealism that set the stage for the problems of Ndigbo.
 
Don,t forget that it was the Yoruba members of NCNC that were vigoruos in the opposition to NCNC/Action Group alliance because of  Folake Solanke/ TOS Benson engagement/ring incident. TOS Benson nearly went to jail in London and Awo and his AG were accused of instigating the incident to ruin Benson. The stage was set for what we have today, after Awo made a tactical mistake by engaging NCNC and NPC for alliance at the same time , not being aware of the agitation of Yoruba member of NCNC- this time the Yorubas in NCNC were threatening to decamp from the party if any alliance with AG is effected. A defection of the Yorubas would have turned NCNC into a purely Igbo party. The rest is History.
 
My on conclusion is that Zik was not a visionary leader, Awo was pragmatic and Saduana was the primus interpares. Saduana refused to leave the North so that he would  unite and make it strong. The 1953 massacre of Igbos in the North should have been an eye opener for a visinonary leader, instead Zik created minority problem in East by sacking Prof. Eyo Etta and later handed over to another Igboman, Okpala. 
 
Eyo Etta as the Gov. of Eastern Region would have reassured the minorities. The Efik/ Ogoja axis fought along with the Biafrans because the 2i/c was General Effiong.  This is why I see Ikemba as a visionary and he demonstrated this at Aburi.
,while  Zik demonstrated idealism at the London Constitutional Conference that allowed the North to get everything.
 
otenkwu.
 

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Dr. Okeke:

 

Thanks for thanking me. It is our bounden duty to redirect, re-educate and inform compatriots if and when they get it wrong. Or try to miss-educate, misinform, disinform the gullible in our readers’ forums.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Mazi Asagwara,

 

That was a very sound, wise, objective, mature and on-point response you gave to Emeka Okala – void of emotion, sentiment and insult.

 

Thank you immensely.

 

Dr. Mike Okeke

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Nwanna Dan:

 

Thanks for the goodwill wishes. I wish you as much, too.

 

As I said earlier to Nwanna Dr. Okeke, it is our bounden duty to redirect, re-educate and inform compatriots if and when they get it wrong. Or try to miss-educate, misinform, disinform the gullible in our readers’ forums.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

 

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Subject: RE: [TalkNigeria] Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken.
The Ken that will live forever .
Emeka Okala would have been as bad or worse than  Ike  Nwachukwu or Murtala  Mohamed in handling Igbo children and women during the war if he was of an age to cary a club during the war.
Emeka Okala is another Awolowo in the budding.
His saintly Ike Nwachukwu had opportunities to reverse his war time roles as a governor, minister and a nominal row Senator . He missed all that.
Emeka Okala ( a self professed none Igbo) thinks he now has the moral authority to force his likes on us.
Akusobi, Dan.

On Mar 20, 2014 8:36 PM, "Dr. Mike Okeke" <dr.o...@ebonypages.com> wrote:

Mazi Asagwara, 

That was a very sound, wise, objective, mature and on-point response you gave to Emeka Okala – void of emotion, sentiment and insult. 

Thank you immensely.  

Dr. Mike Okeke

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference? Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience? Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war? 

Until, otherwise, the contrary is proved, I find it absolutely difficult to believe your allegations against General Ike Nwachukwu. The man is too good to do what you say he did!" . . . Emeka Reuben Okala

 

The people that want to portray the Igbo leaders and elders that appointed General Ike Nwachukwu South East leader at the National Conference as foolish must have under-rated our intelligence. The same with their pretenses as representing Ndigbo in the various views and opinions they express about Nigeria and other Nigerian ethnic nationalities. They are determined to continue to live in the 1967-1970 time period, and determined to drag others back from moving on. Those who take them seriously must have learned that these neo-biafrans should not be taken seriously.

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

 

 

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Afis, I have followed the debate...but I have noticed you are the one always talking about oil, resources.

Is it that you have special interest in the oil and resources? I am sure that Igbos of the South who for truth sake identifies with their Igbo brothers and other ethnic nationalities in the South are not doing that because of resources. I have never heard them say so...

I am convinced that your like and those you represent who always sing about these resources are actually loathe after the resources and the share of the oil wells reflectes who covets such resources.

I have stated here before that human resources accentuated by good governance are the greatest resources. I want to let you know that Igbos by nature doesn't look like people who must depend on oil to survive. East were even doing far better and depended on coal and palm oil.

Let me explain to you brother: a parents who seeks after her wayward or renegade but wealthy child is not necessarily after the child's wealth but the kinship and the connection. So when you hear igbos rightfully identify with their brothers...they are not after the so called wealth you so much sing and loath after.

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Afis,

Well said, I could not agree more with you. To be clear, I agree with you wholeheartedly. In deed the last dance belongs to the minorities and yes the majority nations have screwed the minorities since independence, let's say.

As someone in the minorities, am just wishing that this movement escalates to end the domination by the majority nations of the minorities nations in order for BALANCE. Balance in ideas, balance in representations at the Federal levels, and balance in the polity, as balance is required for prosperity to come in Nigeria. 

Thanks Afis, appreciate your input. Peace. "I"

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[Wilson Iguade]

"... these neo-biafrans should not be taken seriously." By Ayo Ojutalayo

Hmmmmmm! Ehn! NEO-BIAFRANS!

Wow!

Now, that is an interesting phrase that can mean all sorts of things.

I have a question: is anything "neo" a good or bad thing? Know-what-I-mean? 

Hehehehe! 

God help me oOo! with the neo's. I wish for a group called the Neo-Iguades, LOL! 

Lord have mercy on my fucked up mind. Ise! "I"

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"I have a question: is anything "neo" a good or bad thing?" . . . Wilson Iguade

 

Wilson, go figure it !!!

 

Ayo Ojutalayo

 

 

 

 

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[Wilson Iguade]

Ayo,

Perhaps, you think that question was directed at you personally and you acted defensively, as below. I understand. However, since this is a public forum my question was intended for the public of which you are a part of.

I got your response, though not an answer to my question, because if I could figure it out there would be no need for the question. Right! Do you understand this? 

Hopefully, someone else would have a better answer. No problem, Ayo, you have done your best to answer my question, but came out short. Let's see what others have to offer, perhaps someone from the neo-awoists group can help out. Hehehe!

Lord have mercy oOo! These neo groups are beginning to spring up from every nooks and crannies, first Neo-Biafrans, now Neo-Awoists. 

Hehehe!  Peace be with u. "I"

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Wilson,

 

You saw Neo-biafrans and you are writing Neo-Biafrans. Don't you know you can confuse your readers?

 

Ayo

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Ayo,

From yours below, am confused. Thus, if am confused, I guess am confusing the readers. "I"

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[Adeniran Adeboye]

Dear Mike Okigbo,

You wrote:

The stage was set for what we have today, after Awo made a tactical mistake by engaging NCNC and NPC for alliance at the same time

We need to correct certain old wives' tales about the events of the past.

1. Akintola, Ayo Rosiji, and K.O. Mbadiwe all served as Federal ministers in the government of national unity headed by Alhaji Tafawa Balewa in the last two years before independence.

2. It was during that period that the NPC was working on breaking the back of the NCNC in the EAST and AG in the WEST by cultivating the above ministers in the Balewa cabinet. The NPC was making substantial progress in that endeavor by December 12, 1959 when we had federal elections in Nigeria.

3. The DPNC formed by Mbadiwe to run against NCNC candidates in the EAST failed woefully, scoring BA A KO DAYA in the federal elections. An immediate reconciliation with the NCNC made him the emissary of the NCNC in negotiating with the NPC for a coalition government.

4. Up to that point, Ayo Rosiji and Akintola had formally remained in the AG, but they felt that they could negotiate the AG into a coalition government with the NPC. As Awolowo and the majority in the AG did not want any such coalition, except with the NCNC, Akintola and Rosiji's unauthorized visit to the Sardauna became the basis of rancor within the party from about January 1960 until everything blew apart in May 1962. It is therefore FALSE to say that was negotiating with the NPC and the NCNC at the same time. In fact, it must be remembered that the AG interest in coalition with the NCNC was a overt statement of intention right after the elections, the fact of which was published in the newspapers. It would have therefore been very foolish to do that and then expect the Sardauna to pay any attention to any covert negotiation with the AG.

In the overt proposal made by Awolowo and the AG to Azikiwe and the NCNC for a coalition government, Awolowo had proposed Azikiwe as the Prime Minister, and himself as the Minister of Finance. Your point about Awolowo being an economist, while germane, would not have been suitable enough to make him the PM since both Azikiwe's NCNC and Sardauna's NPC had more seats in the Parliament than Awolowo's AG. 

In any event, Awolowo eventually got to be simultaneously the Commissioner for Finance [Minister of Finance] and Vice-Chairman of the FEC [civilian head of government] under the military rule of Yakubu Gowon during a period of emergency. He however refused to continue to serve in that capacity and under military rule, when the civil war was safely over.

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KC Prince Asagwara,

Please see my response interspersed:

"One thing that I have come to know about you is that once you like a person, all your sense of objectivity in discussing his/her mistakes and or failings go out the window. To you, everything about your person of admiration becomes fully subjective and one sided."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

What you call "all your sense of objectivity...go out the window" is actually my concrete objectivity to analysing issues and seeing things. They seem to you as subjective because they don't tally with your subjective ways of seeing things.

"One thing that I have come to know about you is that once you like a person, all your sense of objectivity in discussing his/her mistakes and or failings go out the window."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

 What you call "your sense of objectivity...go out the window" is actually the variance between my objective sense of analysis and your subjective ways of seeing things that satisfy your whims and caprices.  

"To you, everything about your person of admiration becomes fully subjective and one sided. For you one I consider well read, that makes not for sound education and advancement of learning."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

 

Comment:

You are totally wrong. You say so because you don't know the embodiment that make up the personality of this writer.

"You are free to make spirited defence of Awo, Aluko, Ike Nwachukwu, etc., based on your subjective perception of them."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Everything I have said about Awo, Aluko and now Ike Nwachukwu is purely based on objectivity. On the contrary, you and your brothers are the ones judging them based on your subjectivity and parochialism as evidenced in your unenviable mod actions.

"But please, do it in avoidance of cheap recognition from their followers."  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

How do you mean?

 

"You could have made your points that support Ike Nwachukwu as you know him without the unnecessary analogy of what you perceive as propaganda pot shots against Awo, and Alukos. I see no bearing(s) there with the case in discussion."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

I'm surprised that you cannot see the glaring similarity in my analogy. I referenced the cases of Awo and Aluko purely to prove your (discussants of Igbo extraction in e-groups) antecedents. You guys have a "gang mentality". Once a member of your "gang" starts up a campaign - mostly of calumny against some perceived heavyweights or titans -- living or dead that he loves to hate and, sugar-coats it with an imaginary action that his target took against the Igbo nation vis-a-vis the Biafran war, you sheepishly jump into a zombie mob action to fight the person without asking yourselves simple questions. You did it and still do it to Awo. You did it and still do it to Aluko and his son. In the same vein, you are now doing it to one of your own -- General Ike Nwachukwu. How does my analogy not add up in your calculation?

 "Apparently, you are hoping for a reinforced endearment from the Awoists in the e-forums, including Bolaji Aluko. I believe Awoists can and do a better job of defending Awo than the cheap recognition you sought; the same way that Bolaji Aluko remains ably capable defending his late father and self anytime the need arises."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Honestly I didn't know you are this mean. Lord have mercy!

"Now about Ike Nwachukwu; I have read your two spirited defence of him in this matter. You see, your defence cannot be because you really believe that he is being falsely accused. What you are doing is just a proxy fight against those you have locked horns with severally on your chicanery of “Ikwerre is not Igbo” and “Ikwerre is Igbo”. Put it this way, yours is a case of my enemy’s enemy is my friend and my friend’s enemy is my enemy. A subterfuge, I say."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

If I had seen things on this occasion through the prism of your perception, could you have stated the senseless opinion that you expressed above? You are the one calling me an enemy for stating the obvious reality about the relationship that has ever existed between the two sister ethnic nationalities of Ikwerre and Igbo. I don't see you as my enemy. You are my brother anytime. I only state things objectively the way they are. If I may ask, whenever I state things clearly about the pogrom and senseless killing of the Igbos in the north by the northerners in the 60s, why don't you classify my opinion on this issue as subjective? Because it favours you abi? You see, you are the very one that is subjectively opinionated! Check yourself.

"That stated, let me turn to retired General Ike Nwachukwu being a member talkless leading the Igbo delegation to the National Conference; I will repeat my earlier stated views on it. And that is, if I had anything to do with that decision, he will neither be a member nor Igbo leader to the Conference."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Yours truly that's why you were not and will never have anything to do with the decision that led to the nomination of Gen. Ike Nwachukwu as the leader of the Igbo team to the National Conference.

"It is like an Arab Israeli with PLO sympathy as a lead member of an Israeli delegation to an Arab/Israeli peace conference."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Ah, Ah! What are you talking about? The last time I checked Israel and Palestine are two different countries. But Ike Nwachukwu is Igbo of Nigeria, the team he is leading is Igbo of Nigeria and National Conference is purely Nigerian. How does your analogy of Israel, PLO and Arab add up here?

 

"The Igbo like the Yorubas have a way of thumbing their noses at sons that betray their cause(s). And betrayal of our Biafra cause arouses serious hard feeling. Till today, the name Ukpabi Asika remains a pariah in any Igbo gathering."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

Yes, of course, every Nigerian who cares to know recognises that late Governor Ukpabi Asika a bad son to his people - going by the style of his governance of the defunct East Central State. Is anyone singing his praises?

 "As I stated prior, the only crime of Obasanjo against the Yorubas for which most of them hate him is that he did not hand over to Awo in 1979."  -  KC Prince Sagwara

Comment:

Yes, I agree that for not allowing Awo to go to the electoral college as stipulated by the Constitution, he denied Awo the chances of becoming the President in 1979. And you don't have to be Yoruba to be upset with Obsanjo for that unfair, fraudulent and frustrating act of his administration!

"Now, imagine that he joined forces with an enemy bent on exterminating the generality of the Yorubas and in the end, have the bloods of over 3000 thousands Yorubas wasted on his hands."  -  KC Prince Asagwara 

Comment:

But there was nothing like that. You are merely stating your imagination. Sorry, I have no room to accommodate imaginations. I deal with realities.

"Names like, Olu Onagoruwa, Lateef Jakande, Ebenezer Babatope, etc., are not endeared in Yoruba gatherings simply because of their roles in Abacha’s government and turning their backs on NADECO and late Abiola’s democracy mandate. Amongs the Yorubas, there are those that will not name their children after Akintola or Fani-Kayode on account of Awo. It is all on account of politics and not tragic war that took millions of lives. Imagine that!"  -  KC Prince Asagwara

 Comment:

Yes. And how does that add up here? Tell me!

"The role of Ike Nwachukwu along with Murtala Mohammed, Alani Akirinade, etc., in the Asaba massacre of Delta Igbos is documented. You asked for investigation and documented evidence, right? Very well Emeka; please, go read Chief Emma Okocha’s “Blood on the Niger”. I have an autographed copy he sent to me when it was published. If you read it and you are not objectively disordered, you may have a feel of those against his membership in the Igbo delegation to the National Conference."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

KC Prince Asagwara, you are Igbo and you are a Chief, Chief Emma Okocha is Igbo and Gen. Ike Nwachukwu is Igbo. As an Igbo Chief, why did it not occur to you to have an appointment with Gen. Ike Nwachukwu to discuss those nagging areas that Chief Emma Okacha put down in his book? Why did you swallow all that Chief Emma Okacha wrote hook, line and sinker? I won't do like you did if I were you. I would do as I have stated before joining in the mob action against Gen. Ike Nwachukwu in public if I were you!

"I also feel that the many years after that orgy of bloodletting, he could be regretting and feeling bad for his actions."  -  KC Prince Asagwara 

Comment:

That is if he ever took any bad action to regret of and not what you imagine he did.

"Perhaps, he found himself in a situation he could not help as articulated by Mazi Ogbonna. He may have also gone on to do other good works for Ndi-Igbo. But the three words, “I am sorry” for whatever role I may have played during the war will go a long way in ameliorating the hurt feelings by most Igbo, his brothers and sisters."  -  KC Prince Asagwara

 

Comment:

In the world, you say sorry when you have wronged someone and not when no wrong was done. You say sorry to someone when you have not wronged them only if you are Christ-like. But we are purely talking about the world here and if it turns out that Ike Nwachukwu did not wrong you, why do you expect him to say sorry?

 

"Emeka, remember that Chief Obi Nwali, your fellow Ikwerre iconic man was murdered for holding and asserting publicly that he was an Igbo and thumbing his nose at those Ikwerre like you that rejected their Igbo ethnicity."  -  By KC Prince Asagwara

Comment:

KC Prince Asagwara, please stop insulting the memory of the dead. How can you come in the cyberspace to state blatant and bleeding lie miserably? Late Dr. Obi Wali, the revered "Onukwuganuohna 1 of Ikwerreland" whom I was very, very close to at family level ( he saw me as one of his young friends) to assert publicly or secretly that he was Igbo? KC Prince Asagwara, please stop lying through your teeth. Dr. Obi Wali's spirit must be turning in his resting place. Lord have mercy!

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[Wilson Iguade]

"As per the governor's wife, her's could not have been a problem. I had my dick then, good and ready to bribe her with." By Akus

Danny, ehn! My dear friend, u don start your palaver again oOo!

What you talking about - You had your dick then, but not now, huh? Wow!

What happened that you no longer have your dick as of now. Wow! That hurts just thinking about it, not to talk if for real, dick gone! Hehehe!

Am glad mine is with me all the fucking time, permanently attached, ready, but maybe not willing. LOL

Peace, lord have mercy my buddy no longer has his dick now as was then, he lost it in his efforts to become LGA boss, hehehe! "I"

PS: that is why I stay the hell away from politics, shit happens.

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On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:40 PM, "daniel Akusobi" <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ayo
Those processes - normination and elections of Ike Nwachukwu to the National conference and Senatorial seats did not take place.
May be such things happen in your place. Good luck. In  the type of Nigeria I know, people  buy such positions thereby nullifying the intents of the best and more popular candidates.
Ike Nwachukwu's greatest achievement for "his people"
( his senatorial zone)  is the Imo People's university( Imo Sate University) he, as expected of any Igboman with Biafran blood in his hands ,   stole and relocated to  his home town or nearby,  Uturu.
Any human that participated in denying Igbos of the savior
Dee Sam Mbakwe ( may he rise and lead again) was in Igbo land can hardly be a darling to a sobar people.
My brother, I intended running for LGA election in my town. My exploratory committee came with suggestions they thought would guarantee my being the chair. They never mentioned campaigns , rather I got a list of people including Arthur Nzeribe, Orange Drugs, the then Governor, his wife, PDP party chairman  , speaker of the house and some connection I had with OBJ via the then National vice chairman of PDP in the South East and South south,  Nze Ozichukwu Chukwu.
They wanted me to visit each one of them with a bag of money, enough to beat my competitors.
I remember reading that chief Arthur Nzeribe made his first  £1000, 000 when he was 29 years old.
Poor me cleaning shit in the USA to pour a cup of water into an ocean would mean that I sleep with a fellow man.
It would take me the selling of whatever I have including my life to settle Orange drugs alone, whom , according to the report may be given 5 million Naira.( the cheapest)
As per the governor's wife, her's could not have been a problem. I had my dick then, good and ready to bribe her with.
That is how people get norminated and "elected" to anything in Igbo land.
So bro invite me to your nake of woods. It must be that paradise we have been praying for as far as elections are concerned.
So your Ike Nwachukwu may not have been elected into anything. He took them same way he took Imo state university ,  he took Dee sams sulos, gutters, drainage systems  Imo zonal development programs, dreams. . He took all these and fed them on his Awo and Hauwusa masters.
Akusobi. Dan.

[Vin Otuonye]

Emeka Okala:
 
Accept you lost the argument and move on. While at it, one don't have to be physically involved in the civil war and act against his people in that war to be considered a sabo. Your incessant actions against Igbo, despite your denial that Ikwerre is not Igbo, to me is sabo.
 
Again despite your denial and attempt to twist his title, Obi Wali's title is still Igbo. Onukwuruganuoha is still Igbo word and title. And despite whatever way you want to spell it, the meaning is not lost. Besides, Anambra Igbo spell the earth/land/soil "Ani". Imo and Abia Igbo spell it "Ala". We both understand we are saying the same thing. So, no matter how you try to spell Obi Wali's title, the meaning is not lost to any Igbo person. It is the same - he is/was the spokesperson of the people.
 
If you know language and dialectical differences, we won't be talking this rubbish of whether Ikwerre is Igbo or not. In most languages, there are dialectical difference. It doesn't change anything from the body/main language.
 
But I know you know it but you want to keep denying it. Keep on. It won't do you any good.
 
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
 

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Brethren,

When you tell a child to bath, he will surely bath only his stomach. Emeka you write like a child who based his argument on the story told by wasted biased sabotage mindset. Many people that write about the despicable atrocities of some people against Igbo race, during the war, write with facts and live experience as adults during the war. If you did not witness that inhumane/dehumanizing war, make comprehensive research with objective mindset. Open your eyes and see what is in front of you. They way I see your write up and you call yourself pastor, I have doubt that you are representing the Living God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Bible said spell out the truth and the truth shall set you free but if you fail tell the truth, you will die in shame and hell fire will be your dwelling place. Awo, Aluko and others played ungodly roles that fit people of darkness. Darkness will never over come daylight and anybody that support people of darkness is one of them. The best you can do should be wash your hands clean and step out of the bad omen of the devilish Awo whom I believe is in hell fire. If Ike Nwachukwu is guilty, he should not represent Ndi Igbo and let a core Igbo son lead Igbo in both national conference and other levels. Gen Ike Nwachukwu will not lead us for now until he is cleared of the charges against him simple.

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 Some"Gen Ike Nwachukwu will not lead us for now until he is cleared of the charges against him simple."  -  Sir Ugo G. Ummunnakwe

Comment:

But the man is already leading you in the National Conference as we talk. So, how do you mean?

Your comment on Chief Obafemi Awolowo betrays your naivety about the actual role  the man played during the crisis that preceded that actual war. He worked indefatigably hard to make sure that the federal government did not bully the East. In the physical absence of Zik, Awo was the de facto father of the South (East & West) at the time. And that's why Ojukwu always respected him. Go and find out!

The only portion of your statement that made sense is where you said as follows: "If Ike Nwachukwu is guilty, he should not represent Ndi Igbo and let a core Igbo son lead Igbo in both national conference and other levels." By Sir Ugo G. Umunnakwe

This shows that General Ike Nwachukwu has not yet been tried before any Assembly of the Igbo people anytime, anywhere, yet you guys keep shouting all over the cyberspace; "Stone him! Kill him!" Let the man be tried first and if found guilty, which I very much doubt, then you have the justification to say that he shouldn't represent you.

By the way what do you mean by core Igbo? Are you more Igbo than Ike Nwachukwu? Some of you are just too naive and childish. Grow up!

Emeka Reuben Okala

London, UK 

   

 

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Nwana Colly:

I don't think Joe's comment will hurt him. Awolowo left s good legacy for his people.  However,  I don't know if he's the only Nigerian leader to do so.

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You will seek one kind of public office or the other in Igbo land one day. You will make a good candidate --especially given your various comments that are now on record.

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Agreed! Please leave Awolowo to rest. He remains the only Nigerian leader that left positive legacy for his people!
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Emeka Okala:
Leave Obafemi Awolowo out of this discussion.
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>>>That was a very sound, wise, objective, mature and on-point response you gave to Emeka Okala - void of emotion, sentiment and insult.

>>>Comments - Emeka, you of all persons should know elections to any public office in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder and with the most money to spend and bribe the electorate. It is not because of how much you are loved or political manifesto. Amidst punishing poverty, whoever spends the most gets the most votes cast. In the senatorial zone he represented, he has the money to buy most peoples votes and he did.

>>>
>>>You asked,
>>>"Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election
that would need the votes of his kith and kin?"
>>>

>>>Comments - Why not? Especially, if such will rehabilitate his name, image and standing among "his kith and kin" Everyone in life at one time or the other looks for the appreciation and acceptance of his people, particularly, if at some time past, he/she wronged them.

>>>
>>>You asked,
>>>"Has he no conscience?"
>>>

>>>Comments - You may be the one best fit to asked him that question when next you see him. He is in a better position to answer your question. Anyone else answering question about conscience for another will be simply, conjecture(s), guess work.

>>>
>>>You asked,
>>>"Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior
military officer during the war?"
>>>

>>>Comments - It is not propaganda but rather aggrieved brothers and sisters cries based on documented facts. He has not denied the role(s) he played but justified them, he may have. And it is not "simply because he served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war" but that, he could have still used that position to save the lives senselessly massacred.

- my poinion.

>>>
>>>The core question is this:  What role did General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu play in the cold blooded massacre of about 700 innocent Asaba men, women and children and their burial in a mass grave in September of 1967?  Some of us including myself who participated in the Biafra struggle are still living today and the pain of the Asaba genocide is still ever fresh in our memories.  Dancing around this crucial question in an effort to sell General Nwachukwu to us as a loyal and patriotic Igbo leader, is rather offensive to me.
>>>
>>>I have no issues with where he  was born or by whom because that was not a decision he made by himself.  You cannot hold his genealogy against him.  However, just like everyone of us, he is accountable and responsible  for the choices and decisions he made as a human being.  He cannot join in shedding
  innocent Igbo blood at a time when it was fashionable in Nigeria to do so, and now that Igbos have survived the holocaust, he is being exulted as an Igbo leader by those who care nothing and know nothing about the millions of Igbo lives lost in our struggle to stop Igbo haters in Nigerian form erasing Igbos from the face of the earth. 
>>>
>>>Did he help Muritala Mohamed in killing and burying about 700 Asaba people in a mass grave? What role did he play in the Asabe genocide?  General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu cannot have it both ways. He needs to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo.  Yes, we know that to err is human but to acknowledge your error and to apologize to your victim is noble and pacifying. To switch sides (jump ship) and parade himself as a leader of those he shed their blood and helped to crush, is very arrogant in my view.
>>>
>>>General Ike Omar Sanda
Nwachukwu was appointed the military Governor of Imo State under Buhari at a time when Igbos were trying to recover from the trauma of the 3-year war. It was military rule at that time and Igbos had no voice and were not in a position to question the status quo.  Right after the war, Mazi Agwu Okpanku, was arrested for publishing an editorial titled "Killing Biafra" in the East Central State news paper called the Renaissance, in which he questioned the motives of General Gowon in changing the name of the body of water south of Port Harcourt from the Birth of Biafra to whatever the mane is now.  After his arrest, Igbos in Nigeia got the message that they should be seen and not heard. We practically lived in fear and our Igbo daughters became toys in the hands of Nigerian soldiers who raped them, got them pregnant and abandoned them with babies.
>>>
>>>My personal opinion is that General Nwachukwu rose to the
positions he had because Igbos were too afraid to question his background at the time, coupled with the fact that the Nigerian government he fought for during the war had the power to reward him after the war.  That explains why he became the Senator of Imo State, Federal Minister, Governor of Imo State, etc.  If it were to be now that Igbos are no longer afraid to ask questions, General Nwachukwu would not have risen to those positions.  So, Mazi Ogbonna, don't confuse your readers with the military and political appointments and even the elected positions held by General Nwachukwu.
>>>
>>>While we were trying to pick up the pieces of what was left of our wrecked lives after the war, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was busy reaping the rewards of his betrayal of the Igbos.  Now in his old age, he appears to love being pictured and seen in public in his Igbo red cap to depict him as patriotic and
loyal Igbo leader.  General Nwacwukwu may have marveled and dazzled people like you, Mazi Ogbonna, with the positions he held.  However, none of that will ever wash away from his hands, the innocent blood of his brothers and sister - unless his hands are clean. If he participated in killing the Asaba Igbos, all he has to do is to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo. Mazi Ogbonna, if you love him so much and want him to lord over us as an Igbo leader, then advise him to come clean and apologize. Anything short of that is just adding salt to the injury.  There are certain things you cannot wash away with convoluted big grammar, such as the
blood of the innocent especially when it is the blood of your own people.
>>>
>>>Mazi Ogbonna, tell me this, if the northerners with the help of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu, had succeeded in wiping Igbos away from Nigeria (ethnic cleansing, holocaust, genocide) the
way they had intended in 1966, where will General Nwachukwu find the Igbos to lead today?  We succeeded in resisting the Igbo holocaust by General Nwachukwu and his Nigerian army, the British government, Russian government and the Arab countries. Our strong and prolonged resistance is the reason that we have Igbos left today for him to lead. Mazi Ogbonna, do you get it?  Don't call it jealousy, envy, hatred, crab mentality or any of your derogatory distractions.  Don't even try to bring in Zik, Ojukwu or Okpara into your parallel and comparison because that will be an insult to the precious memories of those illustrious sons of Ana-Igbo.  After Judas betrayed Jesus, how can you bring him back to lead the 12 apostles?  After Cain murdered his brother Abel,
how can you imagine him sharing in the linage of Adam?  After Absalom tried to overthrow his father, King David, by assassination, how could he partake in the
kingdom, even if he had survived?
>>>
>>>Sorry to say this but your thesis below is convoluted with lots of symbolisms without substance.  You want us to forget the past and face the future.  That may sound good but, what future can anyone have without the past?  Have you ever wondered why they teach history as a

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Tunji Timi Kola:

Apparently you don't know me. But note Emeka Okala will disagree with you that he is Igbo despite his names.

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FAMOUS Igbo quotes on Pa Awolowo - Incredible!!!

"Your comment on Chief Obafemi Awolowo betrays your naivety about the
actual role  the man played during the crisis that preceded that actual
war. He worked indefatigably hard to make sure that the federal
government did not bully the East. In the physical absence of Zik, Awo
was the de facto father of the South (East & West) at the time. And
that's why Ojukwu always respected him. Go and find out!"

                                                     - Emeka Reuben Okala London, UK

"Agreed! Please leave Awolowo to rest. He remains the only Nigerian leader that left positive legacy for his people!"

                                                    -  Joe

"Leave Obafemi Awolowo out of this discussion."

                                                    - Vin

Even Vin, Vin maintaining a  positive stand! Am beginning to have a warmer heart already towards our Okoro future country neighbours.

I can see Vin trying to 'behave' himself (LOL) now that the National Conference is going on, fearing the unexpected.

As for Gen Ike Nwachuckwu (Rtd), that is one other officer and a gentleman I have encountered. Very humble and easy to get along with. I do not see him as a deceptive Igbo man. He is one of the people I would love to visit in Igbo land should he choose to move from Oodua land despite our would be entreaties for him to remain in future Oodua country.

TTT

[vincentotuonye]

TTT:

Sorry,  I forgot to add that you are too shallow to be jumping on your feet because others say something about your hero. Awolowo's role in Nigeria is there for all to read. I just want Emeka Okala to stop calling Awo's name to curry favor from naive people like you. Each time one or two Yoruba will fall for Emeka Okala's baits. The other day it was Afis. Today it's you. Grow up man.

[Afis]

Alagba TTT,

If you noticed I refrained from joining in the discourse about Ike Nwanchukwu. I heard about him but I hardly read about him.
However, anyone the majority of Igbos call Evil, must be Good.

Igbos are generally Evil, and accord respect only to Evil people like themselves.

Have you ever read anywhere Dr Asagwara praised any Good Human?

Of all Evil personified, what "brightens Dr Asagwara's morning" is the writings of Gay-Pastor Ode-Ara-Igbo.

Go figures!

Shikena,

Afis

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On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Tunji Timi Tola <rote...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

FAMOUS Igbo quotes on Pa Awolowo - Incredible!!!

"Your comment on Chief Obafemi Awolowo betrays your naivety about the actual role  the man played during the crisis that preceded that actual war. He worked indefatigably hard to make sure that the federal government did not bully the East. In the physical absence of Zik, Awo was the de facto father of the South (East & West) at the time. And that's why Ojukwu always respected him. Go and find out!"

                                                     - Emeka Reuben Okala London, UK

"Agreed! Please leave Awolowo to rest. He remains the only Nigerian leader that left positive legacy for his people!"

                                                    -  Joe

"Leave Obafemi Awolowo out of this discussion."

                                                    - Vin

Even Vin, Vin maintaining a  positive stand! Am beginning to have a warmer heart already towards our Okoro future country neighbours.

I can see Vin trying to 'behave' himself (LOL) now that the National Conference is going on, fearing the unexpected.

As for Gen Ike Nwachuckwu (Rtd), that is one other officer and a gentleman I have encountered. Very humble and easy to get along with. I do not see him as a deceptive Igbo man. He is one of the people I would love to visit in Igbo land should he choose to move from Oodua land despite our would be entreaties for him to remain in future Oodua country.

TTT

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TTT:

Olodo. Now that you've learnt eat your hearts out, that's the only phrase you know.  Let me teach you another one. Fuck yourself.  You're ass asshole.

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: NEO-BIAFRANS! /// RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vin, Vin,
Eat your heart out! LOL.
I don't know you, agreed, except your comments make me roll on the floor with the exception of those not containing your glass-holding signature.

As for you general Afis, I may have to start suing you for any comment of yours that don't get me spinning with laughter, even though they are frantic and valid.  Good job always bro!

Have a good weekend.
TTT





On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:55:43 PM, daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis
Don't pray to have a Yoroba horse mount on your mother.
Akusobi

[Wilson Iguade]

"You sound like you have not heard that some politician babes and spouses keep some young boys overseas just for some banging whenever they visit."

Dan, 

You right! Not aware of above, am not in the loop and as connected as you are to have "heard" that. Frankly, that is not a good thing, because it paints some or not "politician babes and spouses" as sluts, hehehe!

When u become LGA boss, I hope no revenge against yours, LOL!

Cheers. God bless. "I"

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "daniel Akusobi" <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Willy.
You caught that drift there.
There was a time my planned revenge on our looters was to corner their spouses for consensual one on the go or a contract for regular service whenever they bring their loots across.
My properties were ready for such adventures with such special species of babes.
I still  have all my junk hanging on there and active too and ready should any mis her route.  I have abandoned those plans of sexing up any politician's spouse since I have realized I can beat them up by shouting here like a lot of us do.
I can say the shouts here helped to kick madam aviation minister out.
I have noted too that use of D would not have been as effective and beneficial to the general public than this blogging. It would have been like a landlord having sex with his female tenant. Try it and watch your house go!.
Do you think our politicians have time to warm up their cars?
Some of the highly placed politician's wives suffer sexual deprivations and neglect.
You sound like you have not heard that some politician babes and spouses keep some young boys overseas just for some banging whenever they visit. That was the only contract I wanted from any of them then.
I repented will be another reason. I am however ready should there be any spill over from your end!!! Lol.
Dan. Akus.

[Wilson Iguade]

Akus,

Glad you took the opportunity as intended to provide a clear and conspicuous clarification. We got it. God bless. "I"

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:49 AM, "daniel Akusobi" <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Willy
I won't have to have my wife hire anyone to service her when I become a local government chair because I won't replace her for any reason NOW or THEN with yonger girls or with another woman. NO WAY !!!!!! .
Some married women that do such things as hiring yonger guys to service them do so out of revenge. They feel their husbands do same or have been abandoning or denying them of their legitimate bed rights.
More seriously,  some of our politicians starve their wives of service.  Some surround themselves with concubines and some do believe, by the nonsense  diabolical oaths they took, won't attempt touching their wives some days of the week.
I have not implied that our politicians' wives are sluts. No. A lot of them are very decent and dedicated and faithful wives. The few bad ones that may engage in such behaviors I described must have been loose from get go. Being married to a governor won't curtail her sweet waist syndrome.
Any woman that has gone off chain cover will do whatever she likes even if she is married to a Pope.
Ask some of your friends if they have heard such stories. Mark you bro, it does not have to be female politicians or politicians' wives. Some single more advanced women do same. The practice is more common among male Nigerian politicians.
Akusobi. Dan.

[MIKE OKIGBO]

Thanks.
 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:49:42 -0400

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[Asagwara, Ken (EAL)]

Afis:

 

How too bad that in your frequent cacophonous mood, you do not think things over before getting carried away in your effort to entertain. Else, you will have known that indeed, anyone the majority of Yorubas call “Evil”, must be Good; It’s just that Yorubas like Afis do not have the intellect to realise it. The late Adelabu aka Penkelemesi, Akintola, Omoboriowo, Fani-Kayode, TOS Benson, Onogoruwa, of late, Jakande, Babatope, Obasanjo and more being good examples. Yorubas such as Afis “are generally Evil, and accord respect only to Evil people like themselves.”

 

It is no surprise that Afis never ever have anything good to write about any Igbo person. He ignorantly believes most Igbo are as “Evil” as he is. Afis get his hard-on and mindless ejaculation when he cahoots with his fellow Yoruba Igbo haters and misguided miscreants to insult decent folks who do not see issues from their ethnic primordial atavistic prisms.

 

If the Afis of Yoruba land had any modicum of intelligence, he will have known that without the contributions made by the Yoruba likes of the late Adelabu aka Penkelemesi, Akintola, Omoboriowo, Fani-Kayode, TOS Benson, Onogoruwa, of late; Jakande, Babatope, Obasanjo, Yoruba land will be less than what it is today.

 

Hopefully Afis, you now see how much I do appreciate and “...praise Good Human[s]” noted above as you expect of me.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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[afis]

Alagba TTT, see what you started?  If you read Dr Asagwara using "cacophonous" and all colloquial grammar plus baba-Latin that Oyinbo people threw away, you know you have scraped his flesh to the barest bone.

All I pointed out was: "Of all Evil personified, what "brightens Dr Asagwara's morning" is the writings of Gay-Pastor Ode-Ara-Igbo."

Any Awoist should avoid responding directly to Dr Asagwara's noise-making below, especially the names of Yoruba he mentioned as his heroes. 

He's just playing a childish game.  

He wants so bad to denounce Ike Nwanchukwu, and all he could used to set up his dummies were the names he "carefully" chosen, that would create that avenue for his well planned response. 

If anyone fell for his not-so-brilliant trap, Dr Asagwara will then come out smelling like a Rose dipped into Ogogoro. 

Even when plastered he may come out smelling drunk but Rosy. 

He may even win sympathy, among some Swegbe-Yoruba with rented handkerchief who love to cry, by comparing the "feelings" of Awoists against ANY OF THOSE NAMES with how Igbos are now feeling due to the emergence of Ike Nwanchukwu.  

It is a brilliant political and tribal chess move......Only.......if one is a Nigerian. Afis ain't gon' fall for it. Nice try!

Instead of dabbling into the names he presented, let's check out Dr Asagwara's penchant for loving Evil:

Everyone knows that Odera hates Yoruba, and if Dr asagwara finds the evil words of Odera very "delighting", he must love Evil. No two ways about it, love Hitler, love for Evil.....love Evil Odera, love for Evil.

Dr Asagwara never disputed that of all Good Things in the world, his mornings are "brightened" by Evil words from the Smelly-Augean-Stables of the Gay-Pastor Stanley Ode-Ara-Igbo. 

Instead, Dr Asagwara went into some tirades, some form of Igbo Incantations of which no one have ever read or heard of, until this day!

Who knew igbos had "Ogede" or "Ayajo"?

Inteh-rehs-ting, TTT, na your fault o! The only one that could bite Dr Asagwara's bait is Ayo Ojutalayo, who never learned how to read beyond the printed words. 

Shikena.

afis

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[Peter Claver Oparah]

 

Power generation drops by 963MW

-FG to import electricity from DR Congo.

March 25, 2014 by Okechukwu Nnodim 18 Comments

 

Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo

The erratic supply of electricity to homes and business premises in the last two weeks is as a result of the drop in power generation by about 963 megawatts as a result of gas supply constraints.

The electricity generation, which was put at 3,463.40MW as of March 20, dropped to 2,500MW on Mondy.

The Board Chairman, Transmission Company of Nigeria, Mr. Ibrahim Waziri, who disclosed this to journalists on Monday on the sidelines of the investors’ conference organised by the firm in Abuja, said the worsening state of power supply in the last two weeks was as a result of the series of incidents that had bedevilled the sector lately.

He said, “Gas supply has dropped significantly in the last two weeks; in fact, it is exactly two weeks. That has resulted in reduced generation to about 2,500MW as of this (Monday) morning; we are back to square one. But we are addressing all these issues.

“Then, of course, we had accidents along the Benin-Sapele road and a lot of transmission lines collapsed due to fire incidents. These affected a very small area in that locality in terms of giving them power. But like I said earlier, these issues are being addressed.”

At the conference proper, the Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo, said the Federal Government was in bilateral and multilateral relationships with the governments of other countries for the importation and exportation of electricity.

Nebo, who was represented by the Minister of State for Power, Mr. Mohammed Wakili, told the investors that the country needed about $8bn to boost its power transmission infrastructure in the next five years.

He said the Federal Government had signed a Memorandum of Understating with the Democratic Republic of Congo to supply electricity to Nigeria.

Nebo said, “The government of Nigeria is in bilateral and multilateral relationships at various stages of advancement with other governments for the importation and exportation of power. For example, Nigeria has signed an MoU with the Democratic Republic of Congo for the importation of electricity from the Inga Dam Power Plant for both local consumption and export to other countries.

“The Inga is envisaged to exceed 40,000 megawatts on full exploitation. The TCN network spreads to all parts of the country and across the borders to some neighbouring countries to form part of the West African Power Pool.

“With the realisation of Inga and other initiatives, Nigeria will become a regional hub in international electricity trade, exporting large swathes of internally generated as well as imported power to the WAPP countries.”

Nebo said the measures would greatly ramp up the total generation on the TCN grid, necessitating the massive and rapid expansion of the transmission and other infrastructure.

He said, “It is projected that the TCN requires $8bn in the next five years to prosecute its capacity expansion programme. We hereby invite all and sundry to partake in this investment bonanza. Government has established various mechanisms to safeguard and protect your investments in the TCN and elsewhere in the Nigerian electricity supply industry.

“The electricity supply industry has undergone radical changes. Traditionally, the ESI involved itself with the generation, transmission and distribution of electric power, usually by vertically integrated utilities. Today, we have trading in electricity with well-developed spot futures market in some places.”

On the level of investment to be undertaken by the TCN, Waziri said the company had $1.5bn annual target to boost power transmission.

He said, “What we are looking at in our template is $1.5bn per annum for the next five, six years.”

The Managing Director/Chief Executive Officer, TCN, Mr. Mack Kast, said although the company had garnered some funds from the Federal Government and donor agencies, more was still needed to effectively boost transmission.

He said, “What we are asking for over the five-year period is in the neighbourhood of $7.7bn and we believe that we can reach our goal. We already have some funding; we have the Federal Government funding, the secured debt and we have potential proceeds from the sale of the NIPP assets, but that isn’t enough.”

 

 

Comments.

·         akara • 10 hours ago

lolxxx.. As the wiseeman said, the only country in the orld where people pay for darkmess.. Na today??

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Rommel • 3 hours ago

There are some scenarios that I wish that we can understand.The former minister for energy under whom Nigeria nearly broke the jinx of 5000 MW Bartholomew Nnaji was promptly removed by the GEJ administration,secondly the recent removal of the minister of sports points to the fact that we may be cursed with visionless and most wicked leadership.It must be noted that after more than $800bn in oil revenues since oil was discovered in Nigeria and especially more than $500Bn since 1999 in oil revenues,Nigeria has not been able to generate 5000MW of electricity in our history,I want every Nigeria to ponder on possible reasons why we have this sorrowful fact

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Toy Rommel • 11 minutes ago

• God bless you. If ever it was obvious that there are forces that don't want power to be stable in Nigeria, it was the removal of that man. I remember vividly before I left Nigeria and Nnaji was still minister that a lot of petroleum companies were complaining that the constant power was causing them to lose revenue on diesel and petrol sales since people were no longer buying their products to run their generators. Few weeks after that, he was removed, now we are back to square one. Electricity generation is not rocket science and does not need 8 billion dollars. Its one of the oldest form of engineering. These people are making too much from their diesel and generation sales to make our power stations work. that my brother is the sad reason.

 

Boluwaji • 8 hours ago

Since I know this man, the only thing i hear about him is drop, drop and drop. Let him drop from that position. Sometime , i think all Nigerian are fools. Will you vote PDP in next coming election?. Let their be a change and see whether things will change or not. Your future is in your hand o.

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·         DaddyD • 3 hours ago

I wonder when power generation would continuously cease to drop in this country.If there is no other yardstick to measure this administration's incompetence, POWER(Generation,Distribution) alone is enough to tell any right thinking person without sentiments that this administration has failed Nigerians. I am beginning to lose my faith in this administration because this is the only country I know where people are forced to pay fore estimated power which they never consumed. Posterity will judge.

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Guguru • 10 hours ago

Amazing. Nigeria is now going to be importing power from the Congo. Who would have thought that one day, a small country will be providing the power Nigeria needs? Nigeria is a sad basket case and a collateral waste of time and energey. They pay these government monkeys monumental amounts to sit around to discuss where they will get their first and next bananas for the day.

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AS-COME-GO Guguru • 2 hours ago

Point of correction Guguru, the Democratic republic of Congo is not a small country. The size is so big you can put two Nigeria's into it and there will be space for more. DR Congo land mass if cultivated can feed the whole of Africa and there will be 'change' remaining. Please Google the second largest country in Africa after Algeria and u will find that it is DR Congo. Even Japan a super power in our modern world imports electricity from DR Congo, sir. I am a full bloodied 24 Car rat Nigeria but my brother wen person pass you make you agree. Congo pass us. Dem get light pass us. They have natural resource pass us. Oh did I mentioned I have been to DR Congo? My wife Na Congolese she be so I sabi that koro well.

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Adeola AS-COME-GO • an hour ago

Japan imports power from Congo? Haba, na by remote control? Are you serious? Where will the power lines be laid? In the ocean? Come on, ignorance is sometimes infectious and you will spread the virus if you are not checked on time.

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Folahan Guguru • 6 hours ago

Im shocked that a country like congo will be the one giving us Electricity, what a shame for the giant of africa. After 15yrs of democratic governance we still cant even produce up to 5000MW and congo is doing 40000MW

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Guguru Folahan • 5 hours ago

Nigeria presents practical aberrations that defy all known human and celestial laws. LOL! Welcome to the land of the unimaginable.

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sunday322 • 2 hours ago

·         The darkness,the PDP corruption and racketeering goes right on while the misery of the masses at large continues
Tell me,what are Nigerians enjoying,with all the oil money available to this government and the past ones
No good roads,pot holes everywhere you go,no pipe borne water,no affordable government houses,educational system is only good enough for play acting
No social security for the poor,no real developmental markers anywhere
All we hear are billions of dollars being budgeted for phantom and invisible projects with Okonjo Iwuala and Doyin Okupe feeding the masses with endless fairy tales

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Golden Boy • 14 minutes ago

Prof Barth Nnaji must really be a genius, there was a lot of progress while he was there and Nigerians were hopeful. Pls Mr. President, forgive this man for whatever sin he committed and give him a second chance.

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Okoko • 15 minutes ago

This is very bad news. One day Nigeria will import feces into this country. Has Nebo given up on Nigeria's ability to generate its electricity? Its a pity how a country that calls itself giant is being trampled upon by ants.

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Adeola • an hour ago

We need 1.5 billion dollars every year right? What about the 3.5 billion dollars every year we receive from the UN that the UN is asking how we have spent 51 billion dollars since ten years till date on the same electricity. Maybe the money goes directly to people in power who shares it among themselves.
I pity us in this could try.

 

 

Femi • 2 hours ago

If Nigerians will ever have constant power supply in the next 10 years, it has to be distributed and it is renewable energy sourced(most especially Solar, that's the way to go). I relocated to Nigeria 9 months ago, before i moved I decided I was not going to buy a generator and I have had constant electricity supply for 9 months. Go Solar today

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·          philipe de pip • 4 hours ago

I think this is same old story....If you pick up the newspaper issues under Obasanjo the same old stories were repeated, same report under YarArdua, and unfortunately the Ministers rep admitted that they are back to square one!!..Imoke celebrated 4000MW landmark achievement and it is way back since then ..are we progressing???.. As it is now,.....excuses...excuses...excuses....!!!...We left the real issues to deal with our greed first....The electricity subsidy regime is perhaps about to start.......

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Gerald Essien • 4 hours ago

Lmao........Nigeria is now Comedy Central Republic. Now we are gonna be importing electricity, what a shame to the PDP govt afta 15years no remarkable achievement

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L-Jay • 8 hours ago

They are not even saying anything about the money Barack Obama promised to give African countries for power generation.

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Danalkali • 10 hours ago

This is another unfortunate and laughable cases we always wake up and go to bed with. May Allah continue to protect us amen.

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·         arewethishopeless • 11 hours ago

Cart before the horse until they have now realised we where never going anywhere .....

Transmission has always been the key, not generation .... Fools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[vincentotuonye]

So the imbecile TTT is still with us? What is it about go fuck yourself that you don't understand? You understand eat your heart's out. You also understand that you're an ass-hole but how come you don't understand go fuck yourself? 

Well get this: stew and die in your venom. Idiot! 

Vin

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Subject: Re: Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon

The Okoro Prof have not been able to combat the "devil" that has been working against the power supply in Nigeria, whereas, we thought he would have prayed the devil out by now.

We can see what the Igbos are capable of, which besides buy and sell, including anything fake, they are a gross failure.

TTT

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:25:11 AM, eze Chukwuemeka <ezemedia...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Shameless, clueless, visionless fools!
Chf Eze C

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Subject: Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon

[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa)]

Congo is in a civil war. Did I not tell you that the approach the energy problem is wrong? They just wasted our money for nothing.

Otitigbe.

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[Vin Otuonye]

TTT:
 
You sure did not disappoint me. Once an imbecile, always an imbecile.
 
Further, learn to separate Awolowo from Yoruba. Criticism of Awolowo is not criticism of Yoruba. So, who is amused about the other's comment? But quite honestly, I am not surprised. Once a dullard or imbecile, always a dullard. The problem with some people is there is no limit to their envy and jealousy of Igbo. Anything Igbo drives them crazy. So it is with you.
 
Vin
 

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 07:47:06 -0700
From: rote...@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon
To: africanw...@googlegroups.com; vincent...@msn.com

Vin, Vin,
Unmmm! The phrase "eat your heart out" is a jovial phrase, but seeing your response/comment, I notice you are not cut for it. Yes I am still here, except I have had no time to respond to some useless discussions. You can only bring me out of my closet if you or anyone runs your/their foul mouth(s) against anything Yoruba.

On a serious mode, I have always been amused by your comments, and with regard and a some respect, I must have committed grave errors in overrating your personality. It won't happen again.

TTT

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[Vin Otuonye]

Olodo, there is no word like efufulele. Use words that you know, imbecile. Well, thank the Brits for bringing us together because we would have colonized your ass. If not, how come you guys are always afraid and envious of Igbo? You cry that Igbos have taken over Lagos. In the 60s you cry that ndi Igbo dominate Nigeria. When will your cry stop? Even yesterday, one Yoruba idiot by the name Kayode Ogundamisi with the group, "group for the salvation of Nigeria army and motherland" is crying that Ndi Igbo are dominating the Nigeria army. This was your swan song in the 60s. When will your envy, jealousy and hatred stop?

 

I told you to go fuck yourself. I also told to stew and die in your hate and venom. What part of it don't you understand, idiot?

 

Go to hell.

 

Vin
 

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:05:23 -0700
From: rote...@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon
To: vincent...@msn.com; africanw...@googlegroups.com; Omo...@yahoogroups.com; odide...@yahoo.com

Wao! I must say it takes an imbecile to recognize one. I certainly have overrated a well mannered personality in you, nont knowing you have been hiding under the palm tree in your ape-swinging chair sipping vodka, no wonder why you all of a sudden gone bananas in your cognition.
It is not your fault, but the fault of the Brits who have bundled people like your sorry asswipe tribe together with us.

Come back to me with more stupid comments, and I will be ready to put some curses on your stupid wasting life, omo karanbani, omo a fi ipa ji baba. Omo ti ko ni oriki.

If Igbo people get anything to be envious about, they would restrict themselves to their land and their people. Your craze head like the crayfish (efufulele) head is so empty and deceptive you guys think una get something wey anyone want. Go examine your head as it is about to turn haywire now leading you to the psychiatric hospital.

A dey wait for you.
TTT

[Tunji Timi Tola]

Vin, Vin,
Eat your heart out! LOL.
I don't know you, agreed, except your comments make me roll on the floor with the exception of those not containing your glass-holding signature.

As for you general Afis, I may have to start suing you for any comment of yours that don't get me spinning with laughter, even though they are frantic and valid.  Good job always bro!

Have a good weekend.

TTT

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:55:43 PM, daniel Akusobi <daku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis
Don't pray to have a Yoroba horse mount on your mother.
Akusobi

On Mar 22, 2014 2:01 PM, "Afis" <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Tunji Timi Tola]

Wao! I must say it takes an imbecile to recognize one. I certainly have overrated a well mannered personality in you, nont knowing you have been hiding under the palm tree in your ape-swinging chair sipping vodka, no wonder why you all of a sudden gone bananas in your cognition.
It is not your fault, but the fault of the Brits who have bundled people like your sorry asswipe tribe together with us.

Come back to me with more stupid comments, and I will be ready to put some curses on your stupid wasting life, omo karanbani, omo a fi ipa ji baba. Omo ti ko ni oriki.

If Igbo people get anything to be envious about, they would restrict themselves to their land and their people. Your craze head like the crayfish (efufulele) head is so empty and deceptive you guys think una get something wey anyone want. Go examine your head as it is about to turn haywire now leading you to the psychiatric hospital.

A dey wait for you.
TTT

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:34:44 AM, Vin Otuonye <vincent...@msn.com> wrote:

[Tunji Timi Tola]

Vin, Vin,
Unmmm! The phrase "eat your heart out" is a jovial phrase, but seeing your response/comment, I notice you are not cut for it. Yes I am still here, except I have had no time to respond to some useless discussions. You can only bring me out of my closet if you or anyone runs your/their foul mouth(s) against anything Yoruba.

On a serious mode, I have always been amused by your comments, and with regard and a some respect, I must have committed grave errors in overrating your personality. It won't happen again.

TTT

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[Tunji Timi Tola]

FAMOUS Igbo quotes on Pa Awolowo - Incredible!!!

"Your comment on Chief Obafemi Awolowo betrays your naivety about the actual role  the man played during the crisis that preceded that actual war. He worked indefatigably hard to make sure that the federal government did not bully the East. In the physical absence of Zik, Awo was the de facto father of the South (East & West) at the time. And that's why Ojukwu always respected him. Go and find out!"

                                                     - Emeka Reuben Okala London, UK

"Agreed! Please leave Awolowo to rest. He remains the only Nigerian leader that left positive legacy for his people!"

                                                    -  Joe

"Leave Obafemi Awolowo out of this discussion."

                                                    - Vin

Even Vin, Vin maintaining a  positive stand! Am beginning to have a warmer heart already towards our Okoro future country neighbours.

I can see Vin trying to 'behave' himself (LOL) now that the National Conference is going on, fearing the unexpected.

As for Gen Ike Nwachuckwu (Rtd), that is one other officer and a gentleman I have encountered. Very humble and easy to get along with. I do not see him as a deceptive Igbo man. He is one of the people I would love to visit in Igbo land should he choose to move from Oodua land despite our would be entreaties for him to remain in future Oodua country.

TTT

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:06:51 AM, vincentotuonye <vincent...@msn.com> wrote:

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[Tunji Timi Tola]

I know say the dog (Vin) who is bent on getting lost, will not heed the whistle of the hunter. One yeye lawyer you be with less self resKet (respect) will never heed the warning of the elders. You may just be tired of holing up out there in Atlanta, or may be your ass they fry already for Nigeria.
I wonder why you dey bring other Kayode into this matter as if I am not enough trouble for you, which you will soon find out.

Your Igbo ppl's usurpation of major offices posts in Nigeria  since the advent of GEJ (whom you adopted as Igbo man) is coming to an end pretty soon. You can keep this email.

Your yeye ogogoro head, is totally intoxicating your head despite your frantic effort to stay imbecilic but reasonable.

You go hear wien!

TTT

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[Tunji Timi Tola]

Vin, Vin,
Unmmm! The phrase "eat your heart out" is a jovial phrase, but seeing your response/comment, I notice you are not cut for it. Yes I am still here, except I have had no time to respond to some useless discussions. You can only bring me out of my closet if you or anyone runs your/their foul mouth(s) against anything Yoruba.

On a serious mode, I have always been amused by your comments, and with regard and a some respect, I must have committed grave errors in overrating your personality. It won't happen again.

TTT

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:22:34 PM, Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa) <otit...@oviri.com.ar> wrote:

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[Tunji Timi Tola]

The Okoro Prof have not been able to combat the "devil" that has been working against the power supply in Nigeria, whereas, we thought he would have prayed the devil out by now.

We can see what the Igbos are capable of, which besides buy and sell, including anything fake, they are a gross failure.

TTT

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:25:11 AM, eze Chukwuemeka <ezemedia...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Shameless, clueless, visionless fools!
Chf Eze C

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Subject: Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon

[vincentotuonye]

When mental problems run, it runs deep with this idiot TTT. Posting previously posted emails all at the same time is nothing but insanity. 

Vin

From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon
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Vin, Vin,
Unmmm! The phrase "eat your heart out" is a jovial phrase, but seeing your response/comment, I notice you are not cut for it. Yes I am still here, except I have had no time to respond to some useless discussions. You can only bring me out of my closet if you or anyone runs your/their foul mouth(s) against anything Yoruba.

On a serious mode, I have always been amused by your comments, and with regard and a some respect, I must have committed grave errors in overrating your personality. It won't happen again.

TTT

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:22:34 PM, Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe (The Okatakyie Otitigbe of Africa) <otit...@oviri.com.ar> wrote:

Congo is in a civil war. Did I not tell you that the approach the energy problem is wrong? They just wasted our money for nothing.

Otitigbe.

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Subject: [africanworldforum] Power Generation Drops by 963MW, FG to Import Electricity From DR Congon

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On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:49 PM, "sen...@gmail.com" <sen...@gmail.com> wrote:

Afis, I have followed the debate...but I have noticed you are the one always talking about oil, resources.

Is it that you have special interest in the oil and resources? I am sure that Igbos of the South who for truth sake identifies with their Igbo brothers and other ethnic nationalities in the South are not doing that because of resources. I have never heard them say so...

I am convinced that your like and those you represent who always sing about these resources are actually loathe after the resources and the share of the oil wells reflectes who covets such resources.

I have stated here before that human resources accentuated by good governance are the greatest resources. I want to let you know that Igbos by nature doesn't look like people who must depend on oil to survive. East were even doing far better and depended on coal and palm oil.

Let me explain to you brother: a parents who seeks after her wayward or renegade but wealthy child is not necessarily after the child's wealth but the kinship and the connection. So when you hear igbos rightfully identify with their brothers...they are not after the so called wealth you so much sing and loath after.

Peace!

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wilson Iguade, my Iguana man, I have stated it here in the past that the Ijaws and the rest of those oppressed minorities in the East and North, are now open-eye.
To top it all, the Eastern region minorities own the bulk of the crude oil.

Eledumare haa great sense of humor. I can imagine God sitting or standing or laying down or whatever position comfortable for Baba God, and Him just laughing at the Foolishness called Naija Tribal majority.

The last dance belongs to the minorities.

The last laugh wholly belongs to Eledua.

Waiting to Exhale!

Shikena,

Afis

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On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Wilson Iguade <igu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

"... You have vilified my people [Ikwerre ethnic nationals] and propagated many unprintable lies against us - Ikwerre ethnic nationality and our relationship with you -- Igbo ethnic nationality. And you continue to tell your lies and compel yourselves to believe in them till today." By Mazi Okala

Where "YOU" in the above could mean or means, according to the author of the above cited quote "... those of you [of Igbo extraction] that belong to e-groups"

NB: italicized comments or phrases in the bracket, outside the cited quotes, and below statement are mine for clarifications or emphases.

There is nothing to add on my end, above is crystal clear with regards to the intended message. 

Lord have mercy, Nigeria is growing up oOo! Peace! "I"

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On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:36 PM, "Dr. Mike Okeke" <dr.o...@ebonypages.com> wrote:

Mazi Asagwara,

 

That was a very sound, wise, objective, mature and on-point response you gave to Emeka Okala – void of emotion, sentiment and insult.

 

Thank you immensely.

 

Dr. Mike Okeke

Ifekanku

Atlanta

 

 

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Subject: RE: [TalkNigeria] Re: [africanworldforum] RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Nwanna Emeka Okala:

 

One thing that I have come to know about you is that once you like a person, all your sense of objectivity in discussing his/her mistakes and or failings go out the window. To you, everything about your person of admiration becomes fully subjective and one sided. For you one I consider well read, that makes not for sound education and advancement of learning.

 

You are free to make spirited defence of Awo, Aluko, Ike Nwachukwu, etc., based on your subjective perception of them. But please, do it in avoidance of cheap recognition from their followers. You could have made your points that support Ike Nwachukwu as you know him without the unnecessary analogy of what you perceive as propaganda pot shots against Awo, and Alukos. I see no bearing(s) there with the case in discussion. Apparently, you are hoping for a reinforced endearment from the Awoists in the e-forums, including Bolaji Aluko. I believe Awoists can and do a better job of defending Awo than the cheap recognition you sought; the same way that Bolaji Aluko remains ably capable defending his late father and self anytime the need arises.

 

Now about Ike Nwachukwu; I have read your two spirited defence of him in this matter. You see, your defence cannot be because you really believe that he is being falsely accused. What you are doing is just a proxy fight against those you have locked horns with severally on your chicanery of “Ikwerre is not Igbo” and “Ikwerre is Igbo”. Put it this way, yours is a case of my enemy’s enemy is my friend and my friend’s enemy is my enemy. A subterfuge, I say.

 

That stated, let me turn to retired General Ike Nwachukwu being a member talkless leading the Igbo delegation to the National Conference; I will repeat my earlier stated views on it. And that is, if I had anything to do with that decision, he will neither be a member nor Igbo leader to the Conference. It is like an Arab Israeli with PLO sympathy as a lead member of an Israeli delegation to an Arab/Israeli peace conference. The Igbo like the Yorubas have a way of thumbing their noses at sons that betray their cause(s). And betrayal of our Biafra cause arouses serious hard feeling. Till today, the name Ukpabi Asika remains a pariah in any Igbo gathering. As I stated prior, the only crime of Obasanjo against the Yorubas for which most of them hate him is that he did not hand over to Awo in 1979. Now, imagine that he joined forces with an enemy bent on exterminating the generality of the Yorubas and in the end, have the bloods of over 3000 thousands Yorubas wasted on his hands. Names like, Olu Onagoruwa, Lateef Jakande, Ebenezer Babatope, etc., are not endeared in Yoruba gatherings simply because of their roles in Abacha’s government and turning their backs on NADECO and late Abiola’s democracy mandate. Amongs the Yorubas, there are those that will not name their children after Akintola or Fani-Kayode on account of Awo. It is all on account of politics and not tragic war that took millions of lives. Imagine that!

 

The role of Ike Nwachukwu along with Murtala Mohammed, Alani Akirinade, etc., in the Asaba massacre of Delta Igbos is documented. You asked for investigation and documented evidence, right? Very well Emeka; please, go read Chief Emma Okocha’s “Blood on the Niger”. I have an autographed copy he sent to me when it was published. If you read it and you are not objectively disordered, you may have a feel of those against his membership in the Igbo delegation to the National Conference. I also feel that the many years after that orgy of bloodletting, he could be regretting and feeling bad for his actions. Perhaps, he found himself in a situation he could not help as articulated by Mazi Ogbonna. He may have also gone on to do other good works for Ndi-Igbo. But the three words, “I am sorry” for whatever role I may have played during the war will go a long way in ameliorating the hurt feelings by most Igbo, his brothers and sisters.

 

If I may respond to some questions you posed; come with me. You asked,

“If General Ike Nwachukwu were as bad as you want the world to believe, do you think that your fathers, brothers and sisters at home would nominate him to lead the Igbo team for the national conference?”

 

Comments - Emeka, it is not a case of him being “bad” or good; it is some hurt feelings for innocent bloods wasted while he watched and or participated in the butchery. Those that nominated him to the delegation on National Conference may have thought his presence would get the Igbo some good mileage. It could also, be because he lobbied for it as a way to say, my mistakes not minding, please, I am one of you. It could also, be on the basis of personal friendship with those “at home [that] nominated him to lead the Igbo team for national conference.”

 

You asked,

“Do you think they would elect him Senator once upon a time to represent a senatorial zone in your ethnic nationality? Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin? Has he no conscience?”

 

Comments – Emeka, you of all persons should know elections to any public office in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder and with the most money to spend and bribe the electorate. It is not because of how much you are loved or political manifesto. Amidst punishing poverty, whoever spends the most gets the most votes cast. In the senatorial zone he represented, he has the money to buy most peoples votes and he did.

 

You asked,

“Do you think he, himself, would bring himself forward for an election that would need the votes of his kith and kin?”

 

Comments – Why not? Especially, if such will rehabilitate his name, image and standing among “his kith and kin” Everyone in life at one time or the other looks for the appreciation and acceptance of his people, particularly, if at some time past, he/she wronged them.

 

You asked,

“Has he no conscience?”

 

Comments – You may be the one best fit to asked him that question when next you see him. He is in a better position to answer your question. Anyone else answering question about conscience for another will be simply, conjecture(s), guess work.

 

You asked,

“Don't you think that someone amongst you has wrongly carried this propaganda against Ike Nwachukwu simply because the man served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war?” 

 

Comments – It is not propaganda but rather aggrieved brothers and sisters cries based on documented facts. He has not denied the role(s) he played but justified them, he may have. And it is not “simply because he served on the Federal side as a senior military officer during the war” but that, he could have still used that position to save the lives senselessly massacred.

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Subject: RE: THE GENERAL IKE NWACHUKWU THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:26:24 -0400

Mazi Ogbonna,

 

I admire your passion and dedication but not your candor in your defense of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu.  The candor in your defense is questionable to me because your entire presentation appears to be a total distraction from the core issue (concern) raised by those of us who are offended and insulted by having him as the leader of the Igbo delegates to the national conference.  In your thesis below, you frequently used offensive and derogatory words such as jealousy, envy, hate, crab mentality, internet tigers, etc, to address those of us who have voiced out serious concerns about the character of General Nwachukwu and his loyalty/patriotism regarding the collective interest of Ndi Igbo.  That makes your defense of General Nwachukwu  to sound hollow – my poinion.

 

The core question is this:  What role did General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu play in the cold blooded massacre of about 700 innocent Asaba men, women and children and their burial in a mass grave in September of 1967?  Some of us including myself who participated in the Biafra struggle are still living today and the pain of the Asaba genocide is still ever fresh in our memories.  Dancing around this crucial question in an effort to sell General Nwachukwu to us as a loyal and patriotic Igbo leader, is rather offensive to me.

 

I have no issues with where he  was born or by whom because that was not a decision he made by himself.  You cannot hold his genealogy against him.  However, just like everyone of us, he is accountable and responsible  for the choices and decisions he made as a human being.  He cannot join in shedding  innocent Igbo blood at a time when it was fashionable in Nigeria to do so, and now that Igbos have survived the holocaust, he is being exulted as an Igbo leader by those who care nothing and know nothing about the millions of Igbo lives lost in our struggle to stop Igbo haters in Nigerian form erasing Igbos from the face of the earth.  

 

Did he help Muritala Mohamed in killing and burying about 700 Asaba people in a mass grave? What role did he play in the Asabe genocide?  General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu cannot have it both ways. He needs to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo.  Yes, we know that to err is human but to acknowledge your error and to apologize to your victim is noble and pacifying. To switch sides (jump ship) and parade himself as a leader of those he shed their blood and helped to crush, is very arrogant in my view.

 

General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was appointed the military Governor of Imo State under Buhari at a time when Igbos were trying to recover from the trauma of the 3-year war. It was military rule at that time and Igbos had no voice and were not in a position to question the status quo.  Right after the war, Mazi Agwu Okpanku, was arrested for publishing an editorial titled “Killing Biafra” in the East Central State news paper called the Renaissance, in which he questioned the motives of General Gowon in changing the name of the body of water south of Port Harcourt from the Birth of Biafra to whatever the mane is now.  After his arrest, Igbos in Nigeia got the message that they should be seen and not heard. We practically lived in fear and our Igbo daughters became toys in the hands of Nigerian soldiers who raped them, got them pregnant and abandoned them with babies.

 

My personal opinion is that General Nwachukwu rose to the positions he had because Igbos were too afraid to question his background at the time, coupled with the fact that the Nigerian government he fought for during the war had the power to reward him after the war.  That explains why he became the Senator of Imo State, Federal Minister, Governor of Imo State, etc.  If it were to be now that Igbos are no longer afraid to ask questions, General Nwachukwu would not have risen to those positions.  So, Mazi Ogbonna, don’t confuse your readers with the military and political appointments and even the elected positions held by General Nwachukwu.

 

While we were trying to pick up the pieces of what was left of our wrecked lives after the war, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu was busy reaping the rewards of his betrayal of the Igbos.  Now in his old age, he appears to love being pictured and seen in public in his Igbo red cap to depict him as patriotic and loyal Igbo leader.  General Nwacwukwu may have marveled and dazzled people like you, Mazi Ogbonna, with the positions he held.  However, none of that will ever wash away from his hands, the innocent blood of his brothers and sister - unless his hands are clean. If he participated in killing the Asaba Igbos, all he has to do is to come clean and apologize to Ndi-Igbo. Mazi Ogbonna, if you love him so much and want him to lord over us as an Igbo leader, then advise him to come clean and apologize. Anything short of that is just adding salt to the injury.  There are certain things you cannot wash away with convoluted big grammar, such as the blood of the innocent especially when it is the blood of your own people.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, tell me this, if the northerners with the help of General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu, had succeeded in wiping Igbos away from Nigeria (ethnic cleansing, holocaust, genocide) the way they had intended in 1966, where will General Nwachukwu find the Igbos to lead today?  We succeeded in resisting the Igbo holocaust by General Nwachukwu and his Nigerian army, the British government, Russian government and the Arab countries. Our strong and prolonged resistance is the reason that we have Igbos left today for him to lead. Mazi Ogbonna, do you get it?  Don’t call it jealousy, envy, hatred, crab mentality or any of your derogatory distractions.  Don’t even try to bring in Zik, Ojukwu or Okpara into your parallel and comparison because that will be an insult to the precious memories of those illustrious sons of Ana-Igbo.  After Judas betrayed Jesus, how can you bring him back to lead the 12 apostles?  After Cain murdered his brother Abel, how can you imagine him sharing in the linage of Adam?  After Absalom tried to overthrow his father, King David, by assassination, how could he partake in the kingdom, even if he had survived?

 

Sorry to say this but your thesis below is convoluted with lots of symbolisms without substance.  You want us to forget the past and face the future.  That may sound good but, what future can anyone have without the past?  Have you ever wondered why they teach history as a major subject in every institution of learning starting from primary schools? It is only in Africa that people do not pay attention to history and you wonder why we keep making the same mistakes?   Africans don’t even preserve and chronicle their own history. If not for the Europeans who started writing down African history, Africans will have nothing of record for posterity.  Most of our history were oral stories which eventually lost their accuracy when it passed through several generations.  Most of us today cannot even name our great grandparents but t we can easily recite the genealogy of European and American leaders and also biblical characters.

 

Mazi Ogbonna, please tell your hero and mentor, General Ike Omar Sanda Nwachukwu to please come clean. As you signed off your thesis below, you made no secret of the fact that you are “Nwoke Ovim, Isuikwuato, Abia State, Nigeria”, which explains the you are from the same village as General Nwachukwu, hence your effort to sell him to the rest of us as the new messiah of the Ndi-Igbo. Nice try but I beg you nna, stop this defecation on the graves of our fallen brothers and sister who gave their lives so you may be free today to insult their memory.  I don’t know how old you were during the Biafra struggle and if you participated in the struggle at all.  Assuming you participated, who did you forget the pain so easily? Were you dazzled and baffled out of your mind by General Nwachukwu’s material rewards for his betrayal of Ndi-Igbo?

 

It is good to preach forgiveness to the wounded, but Mazi Ogbonna, it will be more expedient to spend your energy in bringing the perpetrator to admit his wrong and apologize to his victims.  This will bring healing to both parties, and I rest.

 

Dr. Mike Okeke

Ifekanku

Atlanta

 

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[Afis]

Baba mi TTT, please watch your words, especially around Igbos.

You can't use words like "eat your heart out".

That's like telling a cat to "eat the roasted meat".

You know that Igbos eat peoples, I mean they chopping Bisikit. 

Since you used that phrase, Vin Fine Boy Otuonye has been having sleepless nights, tossing and turning like the "time to make the Donut" guy in the Dunkins Donuts commercial. 

Vin just can't believe a Yoruba could find out his well kept secrets of "chopping Bisikit".

'Nuff said.

Shikena,

Afis

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You go here wien!
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[Tunji Timi Tola]

General Afis,

LOL! You are very right. Your analysis of the 'ewu' was demonstrated in his response, as he came back to me like a wild dog. But I have sent him some bones, even for his law practice in Georgia, he'd have so much to keep himself busy. He has nominated himself as a candidate for the psychiatric treatment, and am sure he'll get there soon.

TTT

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[Vin Otuonye]

Afis:
 
After beating the idiot TTT like a panel beater beat what he's working on, you're trying to help him out. But check this out. You know I was born and raised in Yoruba land. So if I eat people, I must have learnt it from the Yoruba people around me.
 
The idiot TTT knows any day any time I'll give it to him. In fact, I give him 10 times more than he bargain for. The sucker is an imbecile and he knows it.
 
Vin 
 

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