||NaijaObserver|| Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
vincent modebelu
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All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies
Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is. Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere. If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
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On Oct 15, 2017, at 10:23 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeeeIGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.It has never paid off and will never pay offthey know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this eventsHausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.But.....Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him.Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.What are they going to do now/Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
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A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is. Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere. If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
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Ejo.
What a statement you made below. You should ask Osinbajo's Church how the members feel now.
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DIPO ENIOLA
The Great Oha is too big for a commoner like you to be answering your questions. I am a Titled personality. When the Oha makes statements of facts, you accept them in good faith and move.
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 12:21 PM, 'Chukwuma S. Agwunobi' agw...@yahoo.com [AfricanWorldForum] <AfricanW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
You are an ingrate just like most of your Igbo people have been a bunch of ingrates to Yoruba people. By DJ DipoDJ Dipo:Okay, Okay I agreed Igbos are ungrateful people but tell us how and why? Then list all the the things the Yorubas did for Igbos that Igbos didn't acknowledge it or show appreciations. It is not okay to say Igbos are ingrate but refused to tell us how and why?I am sure that if you give one reason Igbos will match it with 4-5 corresponding match up to your list.DJ leave all these argument to the Aluko, Ayos, AFIS, Abodenjo, Femi Olaijides so that we can respond to them beastly and negatively. You don't fit into Yoruba group that deserved negative responses at all. Your face is too good for Igbos like me to scratch it.DJ take it easy.And with this, I rest my case.Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" AgwunobiSeattle, Washington U. S. A
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Mazi Vin:
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari.. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
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DIPO ENIOLA
Region? No way! Could you imagine a situation whereby a Yoruba man would become the premier of Northern or Eastern Nigeria during that time? Almost 50 years later citizens of one state in SE cannot become even an elected official in another.
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Rex Marinus
The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
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vin.....///
Does it mean that The Great Yoruba people are much smarter? It seems so..
The Oha 1Ahu Nze Ebie Okwu
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:24 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeee
IGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.
It has never paid off and will never pay off
they know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.
One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this events
Hausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.
But......
Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him..
Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.
Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.
What are they going to do now/
Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?
remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is.. Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere.. If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:50:25 AM EDT, DIPO ENIOLA dipoe...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Vin Modebelu of Ndi Olumbe:
You are just being dishonest. Igbo people have cooperated and worked with Hausa and Fulani far more than Yoruba. From Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe to Dr. Ekwueme to Odimegwu Ojukwu to Arthur Ezeribe, etc., they have done it all. It is true that Igbo people have NOT gotten any appreciable rewards for their slave work to Hausa and Fulani.. But Yoruba people with far less cooperation appear to have gotten more than the Igbo people.
Does it mean that The Great Yoruba people are much smarter? It seems so..
The Oha 1Ahu Nze Ebie Okwu
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:24 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeee
IGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.
It has never paid off and will never pay off
they know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.
One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this events
Hausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.
But......
Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him..
Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.
Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.
What are they going to do now/
Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?
remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is.. Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere.. If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
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The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
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The Great Chief Obafemi Awolowo, a great friend of Igbo people died a natural death and he is resting in the bosom of the Lord. You are an ingrate just like most of your Igbo people have been a bunch of ingrates to Yoruba people.
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On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 11:32 AM, 'Wharf A. Snake' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Mazi Vin:
Regret and Yoruba go hand in hand. Remember Awolowo had one of those regrets and ended up taking his own life by suicide. It is a shame that the lesson of regret seemed so hard for them to learn.Ejo ni Mushin - PrinceSent from my iPhone
On Oct 15, 2017, at 10:23 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeeeIGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.It has never paid off and will never pay offthey know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this eventsHausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.But.....Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him.Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.What are they going to do now/Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
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It is not a question of a mistake.. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing.. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
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vin.....///
Does it mean that The Great Yoruba people are much smarter? It seems so...
The Oha 1Ahu Nze Ebie Okwu
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:24 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeee
IGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.
It has never paid off and will never pay off
they know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.
One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this events
Hausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.
But.......
Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him...
Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.
Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.
What are they going to do now/
Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?
remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is... Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere... If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:50:25 AM EDT, DIPO ENIOLA dipoe...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Vin Modebelu of Ndi Olumbe:
You are just being dishonest. Igbo people have cooperated and worked with Hausa and Fulani far more than Yoruba. From Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe to Dr. Ekwueme to Odimegwu Ojukwu to Arthur Ezeribe, etc., they have done it all. It is true that Igbo people have NOT gotten any appreciable rewards for their slave work to Hausa and Fulani... But Yoruba people with far less cooperation appear to have gotten more than the Igbo people.
Does it mean that The Great Yoruba people are much smarter? It seems so...
The Oha 1Ahu Nze Ebie Okwu
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:24 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeee
IGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.
It has never paid off and will never pay off
they know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.
One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this events
Hausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.
But.......
Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him...
Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.
Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.
What are they going to do now/
Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?
remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
A close associate of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and an elder statesman, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE talks about what President Muhammadu Buhari needs to do to save the country from collapse and the role of Chief Bola Tinubu in the current state of the economy
What’s your reaction to the revelation by the World Bank Group boss that President Muhammadu Buhari directed the financial institution to carry out more of its developmental projects in northern Nigeria?
The disclosure of the President of the World Bank Group only confirmed what I have been saying that President Muhammadu Buhari is president of the North and not president of Nigeria. It is unfortunate that even the international community is also aware of this nepotism – of Buhari’s unbridled desire to favour a section of the country to the detriment of the others. Is it only the North that is devastated? What about the Niger Delta region? What exactly has been done to salvage the area? He should focus on productive areas to engender development in the country. Buhari’s body language, words and actions show he is president of the North. Only those who are gullible will accept what his mouthpieces are saying – it’s mere damage control.
You will notice of late that while the world is doing the best they can to shift their economic focus away from crude oil, the current administration of Buhari is doing the opposite. Despite repeated calls by economic experts, both local and foreign experts, that Nigeria should diversify its economy and be less dependent on oil, Buhari has continued to spend the country’s meager money in our treasury for oil exploration in the North – he is wasting our money. Everything that Buhari has done so far since he assumed office as president shows where he belongs to. It is apparent he belongs to nobody but the northerners – he does not belong to everybody in this country. He turns a blind eye to everything happening outside the northern region.
He has confirmed all the fears I had expressed about him. He has presided over a country that is insecure and has demonstrated intolerance. He claimed to be a born-again democrat when he was contesting the presidency. Buhari will not bother to restructure the country because his people are the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness in the country. Buhari only sent the 2014 National Conference report to the National Assembly because he was pressured to do so. He has no interest to restructure. The confusion Buhari and APC are creating about restructuring shows that they are taking the people for granted. How can they be asking what restructuring is? It was made as part of their manifesto. The APC is doing all it can to confuse the people.
They shouldn’t tell us Nigeria’s unity isn’t negotiable. The unity is negotiable and we negotiated it in 1954 and that happened when there was a crisis in the House when (Anthony) Enahoro moved the motion and the Western Region withdrew its cabinet and the federal cabinet was disrupted, leading to the colonial rulers to send for the leaders of the party. We went to London, Lancanster House, and there, the unity of the country was negotiated and the principle of federalism was agreed upon and confirmed in the constitution that came up thereafter – when each of the regions back then had its own constitution. It is that constitution we had in 1962/93 when the country became a republic. Our problem began with the constitution foisted on us in 1966 by the military. Then in 1999, the military gave us another constitution that does not represent the will of the people. We protested against it. Nnamdi Kanu is called a terrorist today because he wants justice for his people. The military put us where we are today. I am a Kanu man; where I don’t agree with him is the use of force.
Are you saying Buhari is part of the country’s problem?
Yes, he is... Anybody opposed to restructuring is the greatest enemy of Nigeria’s unity. All the South-West governors are in support of restructuring but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan recently; all the governors contributed morally and financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their deputies. If Buhari is honest and interested in the unity of this country, why didn’t he have a dialogue with Nnamdi Kanu? Buhari will not listen to the voice of reason because he has an element of force in him. If Buhari is honest, why didn’t he call for a dialogue? Why are people agitating for a secession? It is because the government has refused to restructure.
Do you think APC national leader, Bola Tinubu, made a mistake helping Buhari to become the president?
It is not a question of a mistake. I warned Tinubu against supporting Buhari ahead of the 2015 presidential election. What is for Tinubu in this government? He has been sidelined. This government is all about Buhari. The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president. It is Tinubu and all his supporters you should be asking: ‘Are you regretting you helped to bring Buhari to power or you’re happy with his administration?’ The problem that Yoruba and Nigerians have today was caused by Tinubu. If Tinubu had not gone into an alliance with Buhari, would we be in this position? Tinubu is the cause of Yoruba’s suffering now. He is the cause of Nigerians’ suffering now. He helped a dictator to come to power in the person of Buhari, knowing that he’s a born dictator; an unrepentant conservative and an irredeemable religious jingoist. What has he done in his life that does not show he’s a dictator? By birth and by training, he’s a dictator – go and check his past records as a military head of state.
When I campaigned against him before the election, people accused me of collecting money from (ex-President Goodluck) Jonathan. I am one of those who fought for Nigeria’s independence and I am not a happy man with the way this country is being run. If Buhari does not restructure Nigeria, this country will break (up) and I am not afraid to be prosecuted if they regard that as hate speech. Buhari wants to shut down the opposition completely; that’s why he branded Kanu a terrorist. Buhari is running the country the way he likes because he has all the instruments of force in his hand. All the military top brass are northern Muslims – I said ‘northern Muslims’; I didn’t say ‘northerners’.
Does that have anything to do with the current military operations in the three southern regions of the country?
The ongoing military operations – Operation Crocodile Smile and Operation Python Dance – are designed to militarise the country. In every civilian situation, the military is there. Question: when did the military take over the police’s job in a civilian regime? Similarly, where the military is absent, the Fulani armed militia are present – they are all over the country committing all sorts of crimes like raping, kidnapping and killing. What has Buhari said about the violent acts of those people? Another question: since when did rearing cattle with AK-47 become fashionable? I want Buhari and his co-travellers to answer these questions. Why is he hesitating to ban the herdsmen from carrying arms? Is he honest? The same Buhari was quick to label Kanu and other members of the Indigenous People of Biafra terrorists. Is this the country whose unity they are saying is not negotiable, where criminals are allowed to roam the country and agitators are being crucified? The Buhari government wants us to keep quiet as if nothing is happening. I want to tell Buhari that this is not the state we were in when we got independence in 1960. We will neither abandon this country nor succumb to any Fulani domination.
How should the restructuring of the country be done?
Who is in this country that has not supported the restructuring of Nigeria? It is only Buhari. Many responsible and credible Nigerians have expressed their support for the restructuring of Nigeria.
What about former President Olusegun Obasanjo?
Obasanjo is the only exception. The restructuring we are clamouring for is not a strange word at all. It is another way of saying, ‘Let us go back to where we came from – to the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.’ Why should it be a problem to resist the constitution foisted on us by the military? Nobody is talking about unity; we are already united. It is this government that is putting in a condition of disunity – this is what the Soviet Union did and failed and it is the same thing that Czechoslovakia did and failed. You can’t keep people forcefully together under a unitary government; they will break (apart) eventually. To save the country, we came together in 2014 by means of the national conference, but Buhari said he has thrown the report of that confab somewhere and he is not going to look at it. Buhari believes he has all the forces of enslavement. But I want to assure him that the South and the Middle Belt will rely on God to destroy the forces of Buhari. Buhari is confusing Nigerians; he and his party, the APC, are confusing the country. They are doing things that are unacceptable to the majority of the people. Buhari should be told that he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina. If he is the president of Nigeria and not the president of Katsina, he should embark on the restructuring of the country immediately.
He must let the country be restructured before any election if he is sincere... If a marriage is successful, will anybody seek divorce in that marriage? But when you have serious disaffection in a marriage, things will no longer be at ease. We know what we fought for to attain independence. Our togetherness was settled upon attaining independence. What we have now was forced on us by the military. If Buhari truly loves this country and is sincere about keeping it together, he will make a name for himself by going back to the 1960 constitution – then, I can heartily tell him, ‘Welcome to the democratic fold.’ The Buhari administration should stop the fake news they are spreading around that those calling for the restructuring of Nigeria want the country to break up – that is an evil propaganda. On the contrary, those against the restructuring of the country are the people who really want the country to break up.
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If Zik had agreed with Awo for a Zik led NCNC-AG government after independence, Nigeria would not be where it is today.
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The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
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Fact 1: Dododawa,
Neither you nor your V.C. Aluko have enough fact or capacity to educate me on Nigeria history. What impudence! You particularly cannot read, or be able to discern facts even if you could. You and Aluko rely on the revisions of a junior party hack and thug by the name Dawodu, who had o idea what was taking place in 1952. This "Dawodization" of that history is now the mantra of revanchists like you and Aluko. Here, I'm going to give you a link of the informed accounts of two independent scholars, Sklar: https://books.google.com/books?id=xD7WCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=adedoyin+action+group&source=bl&ots=OImkkyXeao&sig=QdI4ycKGVuiE-yHRs5xwEM0hb6I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_iMSN3_PWAhVLNSYKHbMFCdEQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=adedoyin%20action%20group&f=false, and Post and Jenkins:https://books.google.com/books?id=djE9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA118&lpg=PA118&dq=adedoyin+action+group&source=bl&ots=7GwhhaIlNV&sig=Lul0YASilHX0-dI8X5GgFr7vgTU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_iMSN3_PWAhVLNSYKHbMFCdEQ6AEILDAC#v=onepage&q=adedoyin%20action%20group&f=false After betraying Zik in 1952, Adedoyin went to the AG, and could never again win any election in Lagos; and Olorunnimbe became politically dead thereafter. That's how much Zik and the NCNC controlled Lagos. Macaulay had died in 1944. Awo did not need to run in Lagos; his party fielded candidates, and they routinely lost their deposits until 1966. By the way, one of the important fall-outs of Zik's leadership of the opposition in the West was that very astutely, he forced Awo and the Action Group, to the consternation of the British, to begin to speak more and more like the NCNC, in ways that scuttled all the British plans with Awo which was the entire reason of preventing Zik from getting to the center in 1951/52. You will of course not understand this because you do not have the context.
Fact 2: Fred Macewen could not have been Macaulay's "follower" if he remained with Zik as a member of the NCNC executive board until 1966. Nor could A.K. Disu, whom Zik basically sent to Lincoln. Nor for that matter Adeniran Ogunsanya, who is perhaps the closest of the younger politicians to Zik, and who had given accounts of how he became a die-hard Zikist as a student at King's college. I know that Olu Akinfosile is not from Oyo, and folks from Ondo remained, and sent in NCNC candidates consistently to parliament. M. Otun and Zik formed the Zik Atheltics club in Yaba. So, how was he a Macaulay follower? Aluko is just being silly, period! This idiotic revision of Nigerian history when it comes to Zik is strange and laughable, because in fact, the records are there and are permanent, including some of the memoirs of these fellows. H.O. Davies could not have been "sympathetic" to Awo. Otherwise, why did he leave the Action Group, and the Egbe Omo Oduduwa, to join Zik's NCNC? He was the leading lawyer with Kola Balogun, sent by Zik and the NCNC to defend Jomoh Kenyatta and the Mau-Mau in Kenya; he was a childhood friend of Zik's, and he could not stand Awo. You can read his memoirs published by Evans, for starters before engaging with me, or talking much of the stinking rot from your terrible ignorance. To learn, you must be patient and open-minded, and you're neither. I feel insulted every time mediocre folks like you challenge me on these questions. I expect to learn. I usually expect rigor. But you have neither the mind nor the ability for both. Go back to primary school, idiot, and read up on Nigeria's civic history before making statements of which you have little clue. Did you know why Adedoyin left the NCNC on whose platform he was elected? Did you know why in the end he also stabled Awo in the back by joining up with Akintola during the AG crisis? It is simply because you father's cousin, Adedoyin, was a political hack and jobber who had no principles. He was a political climber, period! And that is Nigeria's history. Get a life, Dodo!
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
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"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] ||NaijaObserver|| Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
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Rex Marinus
Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.
Obi Nwakanma
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Mobolaji Aluko
Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.
Obi Nwakanma
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Obi,
Stop confusing yourself. "Union government" is not a political system. Google "system of government in India" and you will see federation. Union government is a temporary arrangement put in place for exigency. It is put in place in whatever political system is in place (unitary or federal). Zik, Aguyi Ironsi and Igbo wanted unitary system for selfish reasons. Turning Nigeria unitary was Ironsi's first major act as Head of State. And he did it at the advice/counsel of Igbo politicians. Northerners said the act confirmed Igbo's plan to dominate.
Your long stories in which you repeat falsehood cannot change Nigeria's history. With Igbos like you, Nigerians (especially Southerners) will continue to be suspecious of Igbo because you are not ready to take responsibility for Igbo's role in getting Nigeria to the chaos Nigeria is in: Zik's choice to be a ceremonial President (in Northern People's Congress' majority government) instead of being Prime Minister in his NCNC majority government - with Awo's AG), the Igbo coup and the civil war (which was Igbo taking up arms to settle political disagreement with Northerners).
Zik was the first in Nigeria to voluntarily foist a Northerner on Nigeria as political leader. Zik with PhD preferred working under Prime Minister Balewa with Teachers Training Certificate, to being Prime Minister himself with Barrister Awolowo as one of his Ministers. We know how Zik's choice worked out for Nigeria.
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
-Ayo Ojutalayo
Wrong again, Ojutalayo. Please get your historical facts: Azikiwe did not propose a unitary state. He proposed a "Union government" such as we still have in India. There is a material difference, and if you are versed in constitutional law and constitutionalism, you'd understand that difference. Zik was a constitutionalist. He wanted the establishment of Nigeria as a democratic republic. India was as a good a model as any. The descent of Nigeria into chaos began with the unraveling of the Action Group Party. Having campaigned vigorously to form the government of the Nigerian state, and having relied on promises made to him by his British handlers, Awo was sourly dissapointed at the outcome of the 1959 elections. The Nationalist Party, the NCNC polled the highest nation-wide voters; the regionalist NPC polled almost neck to neck with the Action Group Party, which was just beginning, by 1958 to position itself outside of a mostly Western Nigerian regional party in preparations for the December 1959 elections.
The NPC had threatened to secede from Nigeria if the Southern parties were to form the national government, and the North itself had been gerrymandered by British colonial interests to provide half the number of seats in the House of Representatives. During that 1959 election, NCNC coalition partners in the north, the popular NEPU led by Mallam Aminu was suppressed, its candidates refused election forms before deadlines; various parts where they sought to contest declared "unopposed." Had the elections been free in the North, the NCNC which was still the most widely influential party nation-wide and the NEPU would have formed the first national government without needing a coalition partner. But as far back as 1953, it was clear the British despaired of that scenario from declassified empire documents now available, and made their own plans to make certain that the Nationalists did not come to power. The threat of the North to secede was one critical move prompting Azikiwe's famous letter to the Northern leaders warning them against the consequences of secession.
There were three factors that compelled Zik's choice of the NPC: one, was the internal dynamic of his own party. The western Nigerian committee of the NCNC vowed to exit the party should the National committee decide to work with the Action Group. The Eastern Nigerian party committee were all for working with AG, but Awolowo's kinsmen in the NCNC refused to work in a coalition with him. The threat to dismember the party should the NCNC work with AG was a serious enough threat that Zik acceded. Secondly, the internal dynamics within the AG itself was beginning to point towards a serious crisis. Zik and the NCNC had weathered their own crisis in 1958, but the AG at the end of that election was afloat. A section of the party wanted to work with the NPC, or at best, be party to a national unity government as was in existence from 1957, to secure at the very least, Yoruba stake in the new national government. Awo and a faction were adamant against working with the North, whom they had absolute disregard for. It was Awo's serious disregard and hatred of the North, particularly the Sarduana, that made him decide against even considering a third-party coalition. The result was that, the NCNC, understanding that it would be irresponsible of a nationalist party to leave the power to form the new, critical government of a new nation in the hands of a revanchist and unprepared NPC, chose to enter that coalition as a way of giving Nigeria a small chance of survival. Awo chose to lead opposition from parliament which is alright for a parliamentary democracy. Every good thing that was achieved in that first republic were NCNC programs - from the expansions in public education, to the establishment of the National Provident Fund, the expansion of National Railways network, and the framework of the Ist National Economic Development plan crafted by Okigbo whom Balewa took from the East to be his Economic adviser. It is arguable that Nigeria saw a great momentum in that period, although the political framework collapsed. The third factor was the urging by Nkrumah in his letter to Zik, to make the kind of personal sacrifice that would make Nigeria survive, for the sake of the African continent, and forestall what they anticipated was the British "neocolonial agenda" which was already at play.
In the end, because it was outside of power, the Action Group imploded, and it took with it, the west. First, two factions emerged from the AG fissure. One of those factions, led by Akintola blamed Awo for the decision against joining a national unity government, and attempting rather to ursurp the powers of the elected Premier of the west. They fought to the death. Second, Awo's disdain for Balewa's government moved him and his faction in 1960/61 to begin to make plans for a coup, which was discovered, and they were jailed for it. That was the beginning of the Nigerian chaos. The "restless" west or the "wild west" had collapsed. It was in the effort to save it that compelled the January 1966 coup. We need to be clear on this. The consequences of the January 15 coup, led to the civil war. The Civil war may not have happened had the West asserted the agreement reached in Enugu between Ojukwu and Awo, to establish a common "Southern Front" and compel the North either to accede to negotiations, or secede. Awo and the west betrayed that agreement, and rather, joined in the war against the East for clearly two reasons (a) to secure the then clearly incredible resources of the East for its own use, and (b) to upstage Easterners in the competition for ascendancy in Nigeria. Zik warned seriously about all these moves. And when it came to the crunch, his deft international moves led to the end of the war. That again is the legacy of Zik. Let these facts speak for themselves, and not the colored shebeen narratives that you all are used to from seeping too frequently of the koolaid at Risikatu's Bar by the Ogunpa.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
"If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of!" . . . . . Obi Nwakanma
You cannot eat your cake and have it. Zik's choice of NPC instead of AG, and the Igbo coup of January 15, 1966 are the begining of the "chaos that is Nigeria today". The coup "trashed" the Constitution we now claim is the way out of the chaos. There would have been no need for the January 15 coup but for Zik's choice. And there would not have been no biafra war and all the coups that followed if there was no January 15, 1966 Igbo coup. By the way, your "Zik's idea of nation" was a unitary system instead of a federal system. That was Aguyi Ironsi's idea too. In actual fact, it was Igbo's idea of a nation because unlike Yoruba, Igbo wanted to take advantage of the less educated Northern Nigerian (with shortages of man power). No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria.
And if there was going to be fragmantation of Nigeria, it would have been done by the politicians without war.
Ayo Ojutalayo
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr
If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of! It was the decision of a man who placed nation, above self. That's the true meaning of nobility and patriotism. Zik was not about personal power and agrandizement, he was all about the cohesion of nation in an era of decolonization. His offer remained the most viable: the formation of a tripartite coalition government for a transitional government of "national unity." Awo and a faction of his party refused, and thus the AG party crisis that snowballed into a national crisis. That is Nigerian history.Obi Nwakanma
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If Zik had agreed with Awo for a Zik led NCNC-AG government after independence, Nigeria would not be where it is today.
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The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
"If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of!" . . . . . Obi Nwakanma
You cannot eat your cake and have it. Zik's choice of NPC instead of AG, and the Igbo coup of January 15, 1966 are the begining of the "chaos that is Nigeria today". The coup "trashed" the Constitution we now claim is the way out of the chaos. There would have been no need for the January 15 coup but for Zik's choice. And there would not have been no biafra war and all the coups that followed if there was no January 15, 1966 Igbo coup. By the way, your "Zik's idea of nation" was a unitary system instead of a federal system. That was Aguyi Ironsi's idea too. In actual fact, it was Igbo's idea of a nation because unlike Yoruba, Igbo wanted to take advantage of the less educated Northern Nigerian (with shortages of man power). No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria.
And if there was going to be fragmantation of Nigeria, it would have been done by the politicians without war.
Ayo Ojutalayo
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr
If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of! It was the decision of a man who placed nation, above self. That's the true meaning of nobility and patriotism. Zik was not about personal power and agrandizement, he was all about the cohesion of nation in an era of decolonization. His offer remained the most viable: the formation of a tripartite coalition government for a transitional government of "national unity." Awo and a faction of his party refused, and thus the AG party crisis that snowballed into a national crisis. That is Nigerian history.Obi Nwakanma
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If Zik had agreed with Awo for a Zik led NCNC-AG government after independence, Nigeria would not be where it is today.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Rex Marinus rexma...@hotmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]<NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
Obi Nwakanma
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I'd like to repeat it: until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, Nigeria will remain a wasteland. And Igbo like me do not care what the likes of Aluko thinks of them. And yes, the "divine" Zik spoke the mind of a great many Igbo when he declared:" It would appear that God has specially created the Igbo people to suffer persecution and be victimized because of their resolute will to live. Since suffering is the label of our tribe, we can afford to be sacrificed for the ultimate redemption of the children of Africa. t would appear that God has specially created the Igbo people to suffer persecution and be victimized because of their resolute will to live. Since suffering is the label of our tribe, we can afford to be sacrificed for the ultimate redemption of the children of Africa. " It is true: it is what drives the Igbo - the redemptive urge; the impetus that comes from a sense of sacrifice for the greater good. Zik said it. I'm affirming it. If you do not like it, take a leap into the omambala. As I have told you, this "supermenchen" shit no longer flies. About Goebel, we have learnt from the best: it is his incarnation Aluko. So, when I "Goebelize" as you say, I'm following in your footsteps, and heeding the injunction: "do not let anyone tell your story for you," because since the Alukos have learnt to shoot the Igbo with no intention of missing, the Igbo have learnt then to fly with no intention of perching. And there you have it!
Obi Nwakanma
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Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement.." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.
Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Obi,
Stop confusing yourself. "Union government" is not a political system. Google "system of government in India" and you will see federation. Union government is a temporary arrangement put in place for exigency. It is put in place in whatever political system is in place (unitary or federal). Zik, Aguyi Ironsi and Igbo wanted unitary system for selfish reasons. Turning Nigeria unitary was Ironsi's first major act as Head of State. And he did it at the advice/counsel of Igbo politicians. Northerners said the act confirmed Igbo's plan to dominate.
Your long stories in which you repeat falsehood cannot change Nigeria's history. With Igbos like you, Nigerians (especially Southerners) will continue to be suspecious of Igbo because you are not ready to take responsibility for Igbo's role in getting Nigeria to the chaos Nigeria is in: Zik's choice to be a ceremonial President (in Northern People's Congress' majority government) instead of being Prime Minister in his NCNC majority government - with Awo's AG), the Igbo coup and the civil war (which was Igbo taking up arms to settle political disagreement with Northerners).
Zik was the first in Nigeria to voluntarily foist a Northerner on Nigeria as political leader. Zik with PhD preferred working under Prime Minister Balewa with Teachers Training Certificate, to being Prime Minister himself with Barrister Awolowo as one of his Ministers. We know how Zik's choice worked out for Nigeria.
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
-Ayo Ojutalayo
Wrong again, Ojutalayo. Please get your historical facts: Azikiwe did not propose a unitary state. He proposed a "Union government" such as we still have in India. There is a material difference, and if you are versed in constitutional law and constitutionalism, you'd understand that difference. Zik was a constitutionalist. He wanted the establishment of Nigeria as a democratic republic. India was as a good a model as any. The descent of Nigeria into chaos began with the unraveling of the Action Group Party. Having campaigned vigorously to form the government of the Nigerian state, and having relied on promises made to him by his British handlers, Awo was sourly dissapointed at the outcome of the 1959 elections. The Nationalist Party, the NCNC polled the highest nation-wide voters; the regionalist NPC polled almost neck to neck with the Action Group Party, which was just beginning, by 1958 to position itself outside of a mostly Western Nigerian regional party in preparations for the December 1959 elections.
The NPC had threatened to secede from Nigeria if the Southern parties were to form the national government, and the North itself had been gerrymandered by British colonial interests to provide half the number of seats in the House of Representatives. During that 1959 election, NCNC coalition partners in the north, the popular NEPU led by Mallam Aminu was suppressed, its candidates refused election forms before deadlines; various parts where they sought to contest declared "unopposed." Had the elections been free in the North, the NCNC which was still the most widely influential party nation-wide and the NEPU would have formed the first national government without needing a coalition partner. But as far back as 1953, it was clear the British despaired of that scenario from declassified empire documents now available, and made their own plans to make certain that the Nationalists did not come to power. The threat of the North to secede was one critical move prompting Azikiwe's famous letter to the Northern leaders warning them against the consequences of secession.
There were three factors that compelled Zik's choice of the NPC: one, was the internal dynamic of his own party. The western Nigerian committee of the NCNC vowed to exit the party should the National committee decide to work with the Action Group. The Eastern Nigerian party committee were all for working with AG, but Awolowo's kinsmen in the NCNC refused to work in a coalition with him. The threat to dismember the party should the NCNC work with AG was a serious enough threat that Zik acceded. Secondly, the internal dynamics within the AG itself was beginning to point towards a serious crisis. Zik and the NCNC had weathered their own crisis in 1958, but the AG at the end of that election was afloat. A section of the party wanted to work with the NPC, or at best, be party to a national unity government as was in existence from 1957, to secure at the very least, Yoruba stake in the new national government.. Awo and a faction were adamant against working with the North, whom they had absolute disregard for. It was Awo's serious disregard and hatred of the North, particularly the Sarduana, that made him decide against even considering a third-party coalition. The result was that, the NCNC, understanding that it would be irresponsible of a nationalist party to leave the power to form the new, critical government of a new nation in the hands of a revanchist and unprepared NPC, chose to enter that coalition as a way of giving Nigeria a small chance of survival. Awo chose to lead opposition from parliament which is alright for a parliamentary democracy. Every good thing that was achieved in that first republic were NCNC programs - from the expansions in public education, to the establishment of the National Provident Fund, the expansion of National Railways network, and the framework of the Ist National Economic Development plan crafted by Okigbo whom Balewa took from the East to be his Economic adviser. It is arguable that Nigeria saw a great momentum in that period, although the political framework collapsed. The third factor was the urging by Nkrumah in his letter to Zik, to make the kind of personal sacrifice that would make Nigeria survive, for the sake of the African continent, and forestall what they anticipated was the British "neocolonial agenda" which was already at play.
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Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement.." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.
Obi Nwakanma
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Obi,
Stop confusing yourself. "Union government" is not a political system. Google "system of government in India" and you will see federation. Union government is a temporary arrangement put in place for exigency. It is put in place in whatever political system is in place (unitary or federal). Zik, Aguyi Ironsi and Igbo wanted unitary system for selfish reasons. Turning Nigeria unitary was Ironsi's first major act as Head of State. And he did it at the advice/counsel of Igbo politicians. Northerners said the act confirmed Igbo's plan to dominate.
Your long stories in which you repeat falsehood cannot change Nigeria's history. With Igbos like you, Nigerians (especially Southerners) will continue to be suspecious of Igbo because you are not ready to take responsibility for Igbo's role in getting Nigeria to the chaos Nigeria is in: Zik's choice to be a ceremonial President (in Northern People's Congress' majority government) instead of being Prime Minister in his NCNC majority government - with Awo's AG), the Igbo coup and the civil war (which was Igbo taking up arms to settle political disagreement with Northerners).
Zik was the first in Nigeria to voluntarily foist a Northerner on Nigeria as political leader. Zik with PhD preferred working under Prime Minister Balewa with Teachers Training Certificate, to being Prime Minister himself with Barrister Awolowo as one of his Ministers. We know how Zik's choice worked out for Nigeria.
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
-Ayo Ojutalayo
Wrong again, Ojutalayo. Please get your historical facts: Azikiwe did not propose a unitary state. He proposed a "Union government" such as we still have in India. There is a material difference, and if you are versed in constitutional law and constitutionalism, you'd understand that difference. Zik was a constitutionalist. He wanted the establishment of Nigeria as a democratic republic. India was as a good a model as any. The descent of Nigeria into chaos began with the unraveling of the Action Group Party. Having campaigned vigorously to form the government of the Nigerian state, and having relied on promises made to him by his British handlers, Awo was sourly dissapointed at the outcome of the 1959 elections. The Nationalist Party, the NCNC polled the highest nation-wide voters; the regionalist NPC polled almost neck to neck with the Action Group Party, which was just beginning, by 1958 to position itself outside of a mostly Western Nigerian regional party in preparations for the December 1959 elections.
The NPC had threatened to secede from Nigeria if the Southern parties were to form the national government, and the North itself had been gerrymandered by British colonial interests to provide half the number of seats in the House of Representatives. During that 1959 election, NCNC coalition partners in the north, the popular NEPU led by Mallam Aminu was suppressed, its candidates refused election forms before deadlines; various parts where they sought to contest declared "unopposed." Had the elections been free in the North, the NCNC which was still the most widely influential party nation-wide and the NEPU would have formed the first national government without needing a coalition partner. But as far back as 1953, it was clear the British despaired of that scenario from declassified empire documents now available, and made their own plans to make certain that the Nationalists did not come to power. The threat of the North to secede was one critical move prompting Azikiwe's famous letter to the Northern leaders warning them against the consequences of secession.
There were three factors that compelled Zik's choice of the NPC: one, was the internal dynamic of his own party. The western Nigerian committee of the NCNC vowed to exit the party should the National committee decide to work with the Action Group. The Eastern Nigerian party committee were all for working with AG, but Awolowo's kinsmen in the NCNC refused to work in a coalition with him. The threat to dismember the party should the NCNC work with AG was a serious enough threat that Zik acceded. Secondly, the internal dynamics within the AG itself was beginning to point towards a serious crisis. Zik and the NCNC had weathered their own crisis in 1958, but the AG at the end of that election was afloat. A section of the party wanted to work with the NPC, or at best, be party to a national unity government as was in existence from 1957, to secure at the very least, Yoruba stake in the new national government.. Awo and a faction were adamant against working with the North, whom they had absolute disregard for. It was Awo's serious disregard and hatred of the North, particularly the Sarduana, that made him decide against even considering a third-party coalition. The result was that, the NCNC, understanding that it would be irresponsible of a nationalist party to leave the power to form the new, critical government of a new nation in the hands of a revanchist and unprepared NPC, chose to enter that coalition as a way of giving Nigeria a small chance of survival. Awo chose to lead opposition from parliament which is alright for a parliamentary democracy. Every good thing that was achieved in that first republic were NCNC programs - from the expansions in public education, to the establishment of the National Provident Fund, the expansion of National Railways network, and the framework of the Ist National Economic Development plan crafted by Okigbo whom Balewa took from the East to be his Economic adviser. It is arguable that Nigeria saw a great momentum in that period, although the political framework collapsed. The third factor was the urging by Nkrumah in his letter to Zik, to make the kind of personal sacrifice that would make Nigeria survive, for the sake of the African continent, and forestall what they anticipated was the British "neocolonial agenda" which was already at play.
In the end, because it was outside of power, the Action Group imploded, and it took with it, the west. First, two factions emerged from the AG fissure. One of those factions, led by Akintola blamed Awo for the decision against joining a national unity government, and attempting rather to ursurp the powers of the elected Premier of the west. They fought to the death. Second, Awo's disdain for Balewa's government moved him and his faction in 1960/61 to begin to make plans for a coup, which was discovered, and they were jailed for it. That was the beginning of the Nigerian chaos. The "restless" west or the "wild west" had collapsed. It was in the effort to save it that compelled the January 1966 coup. We need to be clear on this. The consequences of the January 15 coup, led to the civil war. The Civil war may not have happened had the West asserted the agreement reached in Enugu between Ojukwu and Awo, to establish a common "Southern Front" and compel the North either to accede to negotiations, or secede. Awo and the west betrayed that agreement, and rather, joined in the war against the East for clearly two reasons (a) to secure the then clearly incredible resources of the East for its own use, and (b) to upstage Easterners in the competition for ascendancy in Nigeria. Zik warned seriously about all these moves. And when it came to the crunch, his deft international moves led to the end of the war. That again is the legacy of Zik. Let these facts speak for themselves, and not the colored shebeen narratives that you all are used to from seeping too frequently of the koolaid at Risikatu's Bar by the Ogunpa.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
"If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of!" . . . . . Obi Nwakanma
You cannot eat your cake and have it. Zik's choice of NPC instead of AG, and the Igbo coup of January 15, 1966 are the begining of the "chaos that is Nigeria today". The coup "trashed" the Constitution we now claim is the way out of the chaos. There would have been no need for the January 15 coup but for Zik's choice. And there would not have been no biafra war and all the coups that followed if there was no January 15, 1966 Igbo coup. By the way, your "Zik's idea of nation" was a unitary system instead of a federal system. That was Aguyi Ironsi's idea too. In actual fact, it was Igbo's idea of a nation because unlike Yoruba, Igbo wanted to take advantage of the less educated Northern Nigerian (with shortages of man power). No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria.
And if there was going to be fragmantation of Nigeria, it would have been done by the politicians without war.
Ayo Ojutalayo
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr
If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of! It was the decision of a man who placed nation, above self. That's the true meaning of nobility and patriotism. Zik was not about personal power and agrandizement, he was all about the cohesion of nation in an era of decolonization. His offer remained the most viable: the formation of a tripartite coalition government for a transitional government of "national unity." Awo and a faction of his party refused, and thus the AG party crisis that snowballed into a national crisis. That is Nigerian history.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
If Zik had agreed with Awo for a Zik led NCNC-AG government after independence, Nigeria would not be where it is today.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Rex Marinus rexma...@hotmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]<NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.
Obi Nwakanma
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Region? No way! Could you imagine a situation whereby a Yoruba man would become the premier of Northern or Eastern Nigeria during that time? Almost 50 years later citizens of one state in SE cannot become even an elected official in another.
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Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] Zik's Union Government (according to Obi)
Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement.." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Obi,
Stop confusing yourself. "Union government" is not a political system. Google "system of government in India" and you will see federation. Union government is a temporary arrangement put in place for exigency. It is put in place in whatever political system is in place (unitary or federal). Zik, Aguyi Ironsi and Igbo wanted unitary system for selfish reasons. Turning Nigeria unitary was Ironsi's first major act as Head of State. And he did it at the advice/counsel of Igbo politicians. Northerners said the act confirmed Igbo's plan to dominate.
Your long stories in which you repeat falsehood cannot change Nigeria's history. With Igbos like you, Nigerians (especially Southerners) will continue to be suspecious of Igbo because you are not ready to take responsibility for Igbo's role in getting Nigeria to the chaos Nigeria is in: Zik's choice to be a ceremonial President (in Northern People's Congress' majority government) instead of being Prime Minister in his NCNC majority government - with Awo's AG), the Igbo coup and the civil war (which was Igbo taking up arms to settle political disagreement with Northerners).
Zik was the first in Nigeria to voluntarily foist a Northerner on Nigeria as political leader. Zik with PhD preferred working under Prime Minister Balewa with Teachers Training Certificate, to being Prime Minister himself with Barrister Awolowo as one of his Ministers. We know how Zik's choice worked out for Nigeria.
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
-Ayo Ojutalayo
Wrong again, Ojutalayo. Please get your historical facts: Azikiwe did not propose a unitary state. He proposed a "Union government" such as we still have in India. There is a material difference, and if you are versed in constitutional law and constitutionalism, you'd understand that difference. Zik was a constitutionalist. He wanted the establishment of Nigeria as a democratic republic. India was as a good a model as any. The descent of Nigeria into chaos began with the unraveling of the Action Group Party. Having campaigned vigorously to form the government of the Nigerian state, and having relied on promises made to him by his British handlers, Awo was sourly dissapointed at the outcome of the 1959 elections. The Nationalist Party, the NCNC polled the highest nation-wide voters; the regionalist NPC polled almost neck to neck with the Action Group Party, which was just beginning, by 1958 to position itself outside of a mostly Western Nigerian regional party in preparations for the December 1959 elections.
The NPC had threatened to secede from Nigeria if the Southern parties were to form the national government, and the North itself had been gerrymandered by British colonial interests to provide half the number of seats in the House of Representatives. During that 1959 election, NCNC coalition partners in the north, the popular NEPU led by Mallam Aminu was suppressed, its candidates refused election forms before deadlines; various parts where they sought to contest declared "unopposed." Had the elections been free in the North, the NCNC which was still the most widely influential party nation-wide and the NEPU would have formed the first national government without needing a coalition partner. But as far back as 1953, it was clear the British despaired of that scenario from declassified empire documents now available, and made their own plans to make certain that the Nationalists did not come to power. The threat of the North to secede was one critical move prompting Azikiwe's famous letter to the Northern leaders warning them against the consequences of secession.
There were three factors that compelled Zik's choice of the NPC: one, was the internal dynamic of his own party. The western Nigerian committee of the NCNC vowed to exit the party should the National committee decide to work with the Action Group. The Eastern Nigerian party committee were all for working with AG, but Awolowo's kinsmen in the NCNC refused to work in a coalition with him. The threat to dismember the party should the NCNC work with AG was a serious enough threat that Zik acceded. Secondly, the internal dynamics within the AG itself was beginning to point towards a serious crisis. Zik and the NCNC had weathered their own crisis in 1958, but the AG at the end of that election was afloat. A section of the party wanted to work with the NPC, or at best, be party to a national unity government as was in existence from 1957, to secure at the very least, Yoruba stake in the new national government.. Awo and a faction were adamant against working with the North, whom they had absolute disregard for. It was Awo's serious disregard and hatred of the North, particularly the Sarduana, that made him decide against even considering a third-party coalition. The result was that, the NCNC, understanding that it would be irresponsible of a nationalist party to leave the power to form the new, critical government of a new nation in the hands of a revanchist and unprepared NPC, chose to enter that coalition as a way of giving Nigeria a small chance of survival. Awo chose to lead opposition from parliament which is alright for a parliamentary democracy. Every good thing that was achieved in that first republic were NCNC programs - from the expansions in public education, to the establishment of the National Provident Fund, the expansion of National Railways network, and the framework of the Ist National Economic Development plan crafted by Okigbo whom Balewa took from the East to be his Economic adviser. It is arguable that Nigeria saw a great momentum in that period, although the political framework collapsed. The third factor was the urging by Nkrumah in his letter to Zik, to make the kind of personal sacrifice that would make Nigeria survive, for the sake of the African continent, and forestall what they anticipated was the British "neocolonial agenda" which was already at play.
vin.....///
vin.....///Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Joseph Onuorah
Indeed White folks relish this foolishness and self-destructive attitudes of us. They succeeded in “stealing our brains” and leaving us to think with our hearts (a situation that many of us had recognized and have consistently cautioned our people against this “thinking with our hearts” while leaving billions of neurons in the brain untouched!) but many still ignore such calls and in so doing, fulfill the prophecy of White folks who now use and spit us as they like. But here is the good news:
Since the brain has billions of neurons that are being wasted by us, we can re-charge and re-activate many and put them to useful purposes! If we do so consistently with diligence and honesty, the damage caused by past and current generations of our “dear Oyibo” often in collaboration with our ignorant, selfish and naive folks, can be gradually reversed. Precedents abound: Black
Americans were so hurt (more than any other group of humans on earth!) but look at what has been going on for the past 30 years and they have not even started! The Jews were also badly hurt but look at where they are now! And so on. So we can reverse the course but to do so, we must let go of this negativism and its ugly partners. Our goal must be to solve problems not just to identify them and then used them to support our set narratives. We must accept that regardless of what tribes, what religion, and differences we have, we must commit to making what we have now good for all! I reject this idea that “there is nothing good in what we have now”! That is a lie and an assertion developed to foster the ugly narrative! There is a lot of good in what we have, we just need to open our eyes and hearts in order to realize the good in there! The sad part is that while we attack each other and while we focus on the negatives in there, the children of those same oyibo people who endowed many of the ugliness in our society, continue to take the good in there!
I equally reject this idea that once we get “what we want”, all will be good and it will be merriment, Merry-go-round will be running, bells of happiness ringing, etc., everywhere, na lie! Dreams feel but situations rarely come out as dreamt! For one thing, most do not even know what they want and the few who may know do not have what it takes to make what they want endure with goodness! One important lecture in management 101 is that only in rare situations, extremely rare, does a poor performer (especially one with lots of negativity) suddenly becomes a great candidate for a management position! Even in such rare cases, the resources needed to bring that poor performer to a manager’s level is such that most companies would just pass and move on!
Thank you Mr. Ayotunde for a great write up!
Joe
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Date: Tuesday, October 17, 2017, 9:49 AM
the South-West governors are in support of restructuring
but they are afraid of the dictatorial tendency of this
present administration. We had a conference in Ibadan
recently; all the governors contributed morally and
financially. They couldn’t come but they sent their
deputies
The
greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The
South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is
regretting
now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping
Buhari to become the president
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Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] Zik's Union Government (according to Obi)
Ayo, I'm actually quite no longer in the mood for this discussion because frankly you do not bring anything fresh to it. You do not even know what a "union government" is. A union government is not a "temporary arrangement.." it is about the NATURE of the CENTRAL government in relation to affiliate or federating states. I could go on and on and give you insight into Azikiwe's political philosophy based on his writings and propositions, but it would be like casting rubies to sows. And so Ayo, believe what you want: what is clear is very simple though, and history will bear this witness of Zik and Ironsi: they were the examples of the nobility of the Igbo spirit - they chose to sacrifice themselves for the greater national good. We do hope that Nigeria survives, and as history is often written in the tranche of a hundred years, in spite of the current revisionist agenda of your faction of the Yoruba, history will record that Awo was a felon, was a fascist and tribalist, and that his faction of the Yoruba were reactionaries and revanchists who practiced and propagated the African version of the Nazi national socialism, and that the great greed for power spiraled into that lurch of madness called "the wild, wild west," which later led to events that destroyed the early foundations of Nigeria as a nation-state. You can erect all the statues you want of him today, whitewash AND lionize him all you want, but the children of tomorrow will piss on that image, because the history books of the nation are already open, and try all the revision you can, the voice that would be heard down the ages would be that of the historian Tekena Tamuno, who wrote unambiguously: "the Igbo are the makers of modern Nigeria. When they left Nigeria collapsed... ." Until the Igbo return spiritually to Nigeria, it will continue to be a wasteland. That is the real Igbo challenge. We just dey look una as you keep going to the well until you smash all your calabashes. Then you will rise as one, and in a great cry of anguish, plead with the Igbo to right things. That day is coming, Ayo. That's all I should say here.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
Obi,
Stop confusing yourself. "Union government" is not a political system. Google "system of government in India" and you will see federation. Union government is a temporary arrangement put in place for exigency. It is put in place in whatever political system is in place (unitary or federal). Zik, Aguyi Ironsi and Igbo wanted unitary system for selfish reasons. Turning Nigeria unitary was Ironsi's first major act as Head of State. And he did it at the advice/counsel of Igbo politicians. Northerners said the act confirmed Igbo's plan to dominate.
Your long stories in which you repeat falsehood cannot change Nigeria's history. With Igbos like you, Nigerians (especially Southerners) will continue to be suspecious of Igbo because you are not ready to take responsibility for Igbo's role in getting Nigeria to the chaos Nigeria is in: Zik's choice to be a ceremonial President (in Northern People's Congress' majority government) instead of being Prime Minister in his NCNC majority government - with Awo's AG), the Igbo coup and the civil war (which was Igbo taking up arms to settle political disagreement with Northerners).
Zik was the first in Nigeria to voluntarily foist a Northerner on Nigeria as political leader. Zik with PhD preferred working under Prime Minister Balewa with Teachers Training Certificate, to being Prime Minister himself with Barrister Awolowo as one of his Ministers. We know how Zik's choice worked out for Nigeria.
Ayo Ojutalayo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Rex Marinus<rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:"No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria."
-Ayo Ojutalayo
Wrong again, Ojutalayo. Please get your historical facts: Azikiwe did not propose a unitary state. He proposed a "Union government" such as we still have in India. There is a material difference, and if you are versed in constitutional law and constitutionalism, you'd understand that difference. Zik was a constitutionalist. He wanted the establishment of Nigeria as a democratic republic. India was as a good a model as any. The descent of Nigeria into chaos began with the unraveling of the Action Group Party. Having campaigned vigorously to form the government of the Nigerian state, and having relied on promises made to him by his British handlers, Awo was sourly dissapointed at the outcome of the 1959 elections. The Nationalist Party, the NCNC polled the highest nation-wide voters; the regionalist NPC polled almost neck to neck with the Action Group Party, which was just beginning, by 1958 to position itself outside of a mostly Western Nigerian regional party in preparations for the December 1959 elections.
The NPC had threatened to secede from Nigeria if the Southern parties were to form the national government, and the North itself had been gerrymandered by British colonial interests to provide half the number of seats in the House of Representatives. During that 1959 election, NCNC coalition partners in the north, the popular NEPU led by Mallam Aminu was suppressed, its candidates refused election forms before deadlines; various parts where they sought to contest declared "unopposed." Had the elections been free in the North, the NCNC which was still the most widely influential party nation-wide and the NEPU would have formed the first national government without needing a coalition partner. But as far back as 1953, it was clear the British despaired of that scenario from declassified empire documents now available, and made their own plans to make certain that the Nationalists did not come to power. The threat of the North to secede was one critical move prompting Azikiwe's famous letter to the Northern leaders warning them against the consequences of secession.
There were three factors that compelled Zik's choice of the NPC: one, was the internal dynamic of his own party. The western Nigerian committee of the NCNC vowed to exit the party should the National committee decide to work with the Action Group. The Eastern Nigerian party committee were all for working with AG, but Awolowo's kinsmen in the NCNC refused to work in a coalition with him. The threat to dismember the party should the NCNC work with AG was a serious enough threat that Zik acceded. Secondly, the internal dynamics within the AG itself was beginning to point towards a serious crisis. Zik and the NCNC had weathered their own crisis in 1958, but the AG at the end of that election was afloat. A section of the party wanted to work with the NPC, or at best, be party to a national unity government as was in existence from 1957, to secure at the very least, Yoruba stake in the new national government... Awo and a faction were adamant against working with the North, whom they had absolute disregard for. It was Awo's serious disregard and hatred of the North, particularly the Sarduana, that made him decide against even considering a third-party coalition. The result was that, the NCNC, understanding that it would be irresponsible of a nationalist party to leave the power to form the new, critical government of a new nation in the hands of a revanchist and unprepared NPC, chose to enter that coalition as a way of giving Nigeria a small chance of survival. Awo chose to lead opposition from parliament which is alright for a parliamentary democracy. Every good thing that was achieved in that first republic were NCNC programs - from the expansions in public education, to the establishment of the National Provident Fund, the expansion of National Railways network, and the framework of the Ist National Economic Development plan crafted by Okigbo whom Balewa took from the East to be his Economic adviser. It is arguable that Nigeria saw a great momentum in that period, although the political framework collapsed. The third factor was the urging by Nkrumah in his letter to Zik, to make the kind of personal sacrifice that would make Nigeria survive, for the sake of the African continent, and forestall what they anticipated was the British "neocolonial agenda" which was already at play.
In the end, because it was outside of power, the Action Group imploded, and it took with it, the west. First, two factions emerged from the AG fissure. One of those factions, led by Akintola blamed Awo for the decision against joining a national unity government, and attempting rather to ursurp the powers of the elected Premier of the west. They fought to the death. Second, Awo's disdain for Balewa's government moved him and his faction in 1960/61 to begin to make plans for a coup, which was discovered, and they were jailed for it. That was the beginning of the Nigerian chaos. The "restless" west or the "wild west" had collapsed. It was in the effort to save it that compelled the January 1966 coup. We need to be clear on this. The consequences of the January 15 coup, led to the civil war. The Civil war may not have happened had the West asserted the agreement reached in Enugu between Ojukwu and Awo, to establish a common "Southern Front" and compel the North either to accede to negotiations, or secede. Awo and the west betrayed that agreement, and rather, joined in the war against the East for clearly two reasons (a) to secure the then clearly incredible resources of the East for its own use, and (b) to upstage Easterners in the competition for ascendancy in Nigeria. Zik warned seriously about all these moves. And when it came to the crunch, his deft international moves led to the end of the war. That again is the legacy of Zik. Let these facts speak for themselves, and not the colored shebeen narratives that you all are used to from seeping too frequently of the koolaid at Risikatu's Bar by the Ogunpa.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
"If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of!" . . . . . Obi Nwakanma
You cannot eat your cake and have it. Zik's choice of NPC instead of AG, and the Igbo coup of January 15, 1966 are the begining of the "chaos that is Nigeria today". The coup "trashed" the Constitution we now claim is the way out of the chaos. There would have been no need for the January 15 coup but for Zik's choice. And there would not have been no biafra war and all the coups that followed if there was no January 15, 1966 Igbo coup. By the way, your "Zik's idea of nation" was a unitary system instead of a federal system. That was Aguyi Ironsi's idea too. In actual fact, it was Igbo's idea of a nation because unlike Yoruba, Igbo wanted to take advantage of the less educated Northern Nigerian (with shortages of man power). No where in the world has unitary system worked in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria. That is why it has not worked in Nigeria.
And if there was going to be fragmantation of Nigeria, it would have been done by the politicians without war.
Ayo Ojutalayo
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr
If Zik had a greed with Awo, there would have been no Nigeria to speak of! It was the decision of a man who placed nation, above self. That's the true meaning of nobility and patriotism. Zik was not about personal power and agrandizement, he was all about the cohesion of nation in an era of decolonization. His offer remained the most viable: the formation of a tripartite coalition government for a transitional government of "national unity." Awo and a faction of his party refused, and thus the AG party crisis that snowballed into a national crisis. That is Nigerian history.Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Buhari belongs to northerners, S’West regrets voting for him – Adebanjo
If Zik had agreed with Awo for a Zik led NCNC-AG government after independence, Nigeria would not be where it is today.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Rex Marinus rexma...@hotmail.com [NIgerianWorldForum]<NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The chaos that is Nigeria today is because the ideas of Awo and the Sarduana became dominant and triumphant as Nigeria's national ethos: it is the heritage of fascism, tribalism, intolerance, extremism, xenophobia, and ethnic irrendentism. Awo and Bello were created by the British to subvert and undermine the nationalist movement. We continue to suffer from that colonial legacy and the fear of the "true Nigerian nationalist" - those who saw every Nigerian from every part as human, as citizens, and as the rightful inheritors of nation. Nigerians suffer today because Zik's idea of nation was defeated. Yes indeed, a man born in the west, could, under Azikiwe's nationalist movement, be the premier of the East, if he lived, grew, and worked in the East. That is why Solomon Akenzua could become Permanent Secretary in the Eastern regional Service in 1954 under Zik's premiership. That is why A.K. Disu, would be the powerful General Manager of the Eastern Nigerian Information Service and principal Adviser to the Premier of Eastern Nigeria (basically one of the most powerful people in the government of the Eastern region), and then longtime Principal Secretary to the President of Nigeria; that is how come Umaru Altine became the Mayor of the city of Enugu; etc. etc. That is why a minority could become the first head of government in the East - the only region in Nigeria where that might be possible. That is in fact why Zik chose to represent Lagos, and that is why from 1951 - 1957, he was the most influential politician in Lagos, and while he remained, Awo never won election in cosmopolitan Lagos.
Nigeria today is the basic product of those who campaigned, and fought Zik and insisted on "the north for the north, the west for the west, and the center for us all." In other words, to keep the primordial boundaries of ethnicity and regionalism, while Zik and his Igbo compatriots were campaigning and sacrificing for an ideal pan-Nigerian nationhood, because, of course, it was in their best interest, this idea of a Nigerian state. Now that Zik's idea has lost out, Nigeria has descended into chaos. The Igbo today blame him for being "more Nigerian than Igbo," and most have now rejected what Azikiwe stood for: a pan-African, pan-Nigerian humanism, for a very narrow Igbo nationalism that has now bought into Awo and Sarduana's message that all must stay and fight in their corner of Nigeria. The Igbo now say, "whatever did Zik's idea and defence of Nigeria gain for us?" The withdrawal of the Igbo from the Nigerian idea is now the basis of the Nigerian crisis because, no one now believes in Nigeria. The only nationality that believed in, and fiercely defended the idea of Nigeria has now said, well, we cannot be the only ones who can be more Nigerian than everybody else, and they have taken the path of difference. That is why Nigeria cannot survive: the idea that you are first an Igbo man before being a Nigeria, and not Zik's idea that you can be Nigerian and Igbo or Yoruba, or Hausa, or Akan, or Saro, or Bachama, without contradiction. The idea of Nigeria as a coherent, single nation no longer has its greatest defenders - the Igbo: they have bought into the mantra of radical difference. So, Nigeria fails because there is no Zik to unify it. There is no visionary impetus of the kind that Zikism gave to Nigeria; that made it seem possible in a particular generation; that gave it the ideological lift, and that shaped the consciousness of the age of Zik in Nigeria; there is no one left with the kind of charismatic energy or force - that super-human capacity to draw people to a single idea - that Zik embodied, and that could calm the current of friction. There is no more Zik to pull Nigeria from the brink. The decline of Zikism is the end of Nigeria, and the rise of fragmentation is the triumph of Awo and Sarduana, and so be it! This is what this bumbkin, Eniola Dumpling cannot comprehend. No sense of history.
The great Yoruba advocates and followers of Zikism - H.O. Davies, T.O.S Bee, Ade Ogunsanya, Coker, Fred Macewen, Odumbaku, "Penklemes," Olu Akinfosile, A.K. Disu, Kola Balogun, M. Otun, Raji Abdallah, and so many more, who always delivered between 48% and 51% of the Yoruba votes to Zik puts a lie to his claims, because that half the great Yoruba people of Nigeria, the enlightened and wise ones, always loved and voted Zik, and actually gave him their mandate. That mandate was stolen in 1951. It is this half of the Yoruba, and the half of the North who also always loved the idea of Zik - liberty, fraternity, equality, progress, freedom and prosperity for Nigerians without boundaries - that the great Igbo people of Nigeria must ally with and restore the nation, and give it the "renascent" promise that Zikism held. Zik's party, the NCNC won the elections nation-wide in 1960, polling more than half a million votes above its closest rival, but was gerrymandered out of power by the British colonial interests who had threatened the survival of Nigeria as a common nation if the nationalists formed a government. As a compromise for the sake of the nation, Zik and his party agreed to enter a coalition government with one of the British Trojan Horses, just simply as to "get the bull out of the China shop." They did not reckon with the immense size of that bull. But whatever else anybody would say, Zik led Nigeria out of colonialism. And that is his true legacy. Whatever else was the shape of the postcolonial state is now to be determined by his followers - all those who understood that Zikism is about freedom, equality, liberty, and a pan-Nigerian humanism.Obi Nwakanma
vin.....///
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:50:25 AM EDT, DIPO ENIOLA dipoe...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
Vin Modebelu of Ndi Olumbe:
You are just being dishonest. Igbo people have cooperated and worked with Hausa and Fulani far more than Yoruba. From Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe to Dr. Ekwueme to Odimegwu Ojukwu to Arthur Ezeribe, etc., they have done it all. It is true that Igbo people have NOT gotten any appreciable rewards for their slave work to Hausa and Fulani. But Yoruba people with far less cooperation appear to have gotten more than the Igbo people.
Does it mean that The Great Yoruba people are much smarter? It seems so.
The Oha 1Ahu Nze Ebie Okwu
On Sunday, October 15, 2017, 10:24 AM, 'vincent modebelu' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@ googlegroups.com> wrote:
He He heeeeeee
IGBo does not take chances with those people but Yoruba keeps hedging with them.
It has never paid off and will never pay off
they know what they are doing that makes them keep making the same mistakes..Will do it again 2019 ..hoping to collect again without IGBO.
One renegade Yoruba told me it was a smart constructive opposition to checkmate IGBO
Side story to this events
Hausa + Fulani knows that Yoruba wants to collect with out IGBO as they did during the war.
But.....
Hausa + Fulani is handling Yoruba worse that a run away girls looking for a hand out but now wants to make demands on his master and tries to blackmail him.
Throw the girl out into the street in Mushin.
Yoruba cannot come to IGBo to complain...Yoruba cannot blackmail Hausa + Fulani.
What are they going to do now/
Go back to the master and be a good girls and take it ?
remember..this is the Awoist talking...it is now hurting to the bones
The greatest mistake made was for Yoruba to vote for Buhari. The South-West is regretting voting for Buhari. Tinubu is regretting now – he and his supporters are now regretting helping Buhari to become the president
vin.....///
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Zik's Union Government (according to Obi)
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The problem, Ayo, is that half the time, you have no idea what you're talking about. As I said, you still have no idea what a union government is. And even as you read Azikiwe's text that now convinces you that he was proposing a federal union of Nigeria, you still cannot comprehend the subtle categories that underscore that relationship. And to say that "Azikiwe, Ironsi, and the Igbo political establishment" promulgated a decree that turned Nigeria into a unitary state is the height of mischief. As far as the records show, Azikiwe was the president that was overthrown in a military putsch in 1966. He was no adviser to Ironsi. There was no Igbo "political establishment" that backed Ironsi. Ironsi ran a "Supreme Military Council" that debated, voted and ratified any decrees, including the decree that unified the services and created a Republic of Nigeria rather than a "federal republic of Nigeria" - which was stop gap law for effective military administration under the emergency. Ironsi did not preclude the FRA Williams commission which he constituted at the same time from discussing any forms which the state should take in the future. Ironsi's Supreme Military Council had only two Igbo: Ironsi himself and Col. Ojukwu. How then did the "Zik and the Igbo political establishment" back Ironsi to create a unitary state? I doubt that they taught you folks Nigeria's political history, or Political Theory, in Ife where you've said you took you law degree, otherwise, the shallowness of your thinking in these matters should not be too obvious. It is scary. In fact, I'm going to have to examine the roll of the Nigerian Bar from 1963 to see if there is an Ayo Ojutalayo on that roll, because very frequently you make me doubt that you have a law degree if you cannot understand elementary theories of state and government!
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Ayo, I used the deductive principle to situate your statement, because its very context is the same. It would mean this, since "Azikiwe, Ironsi, and the Igbo political establishment were for a unitary system after independence," Zik, Ironsi and the political establishment therefore had to promulgate the decree that turned Nigeria into a unitary state with Ironsi in power. Otherwise, what is your context? Your statement also means that Zik for instance has a record of statements, actions, and considerations that not only suggests, but asserts that once he became president after independence, he called for and supported the creation of a unitary state. In the logic of language we call it correspondence, which is what we test for with comprehension tasks. Effective users of language detect parallels and correspondence when patterns of structure are in what linguists call "syntagmatic relationship." So, you must be very clear what you say, so that what you mean may not be ambiguous even to you as this situation clearly is. Now, I will give you a benefit of doubt to provide proof that Zik was "for a unitary system" after independence. Show me just one paragraph of statement made by Zik that supports your claim. Zik wrote volubly as a journalist, essayist, and philosopher. He has documented work on political and constitutional development and theory; he has newspaper columns on nation, national belonging, and nation-formation; he wrote poetry on every subject - personal and public; he granted interviews; presented numerous papers, speeches, and had memos which he personally drafted as Premier, President of the senate, Governor-General and finally president; he in fact had one autobiography published after independence, and he had biographies of him published. I would like you to excerpt from any of these, any single statement where Azikiwe, after independence, abjured his position on a federal union for Nigeria. What we know is that Ironsi was an apolitical soldier and Zik was the president whose office was abolished by decree.
You say you were a witness to Nigeria's history, and therefore you need not be taught what you have witnessed. Well, then, I do not have much to tell you on that. You probably then have all the minutes of the meetings of Ironsi's Supreme Military Council, and you know its details. You were also present in the chambers on 15th and 16th January when as you say Igbo federal parliamentarians advised Ironsi not to hand power to the politicians. But that aside, you ask this question: how then did the North come to accuse the Igbo of turning Nigeria into a unitary state? You might want to go to his grave and wake the now dead Suleiman Takuma who first broached this, and the New Nigerian newspaper in Kaduna, and their later echo chambers in the Lagos press, and the Nigerian plebes, in typical fashion, who went with it, often without reflective insight. It was not only the North, it was very self-invested adversary of anything Igbo, who turned obloquy into truth. The question for any intelligent, educated, and sophisticated interlocutor of that event should be: why did Ironsi's Supreme Military Council promulgate that decree? Which members of the Supreme Military Council voted for it? How did the Igbo - with only two people in the Supreme Military Council - Ironsi and Ojukwu - single handeldly enact a unitary decree? Whivch member of the Igbo military establishment did Ironsi consult? Okpara who was in house arrest? or Azikiwe who was in self-exile? or Mbadiwe whose moves was to be Premier? Have you read the minutes of the meetings of the council that promulgated and enacted that decree? Why have Ejoor and Gowon, the two surviving members of that council kept quiet about the provenances of that decree? The simple answer to your question is that it was an accusation leveled on Ironsi in order to justify (a) his killing and the July 29 coup, and (b) justify the Igbo pogrom. This has been said over and over, but dumb asses, and those self-invested in that narrative will continue act like blind herds. Anybody with a decent education will ask just these elementary questions: why is it that in the Nigerian narrative, only few ask why Azikiwe, on whom the 1963 Republican constitution invests executive power, would cede power to Ironsi if it was all an Igbo plot to rule and create a "unitary state." The logic should be that Ironsi would secure Zik's emergency powers as president, who would declare parliament closed sine die, and assume full emergency powers granted him under the republican constitution until such a time when he would recall parliament and restore parliamentary governance, by which time he would have effected a massive purge. And no, Ayo, I do not suggest that Rotimi Williams had anything to do with Ironsi's unification decree. But there is some evidence that Simeon Adebo did suggest it as one of Ironsi's advisers. But again, show me where Zik and the Igbo political establishment suggested and agreed to create a "unitary state" after independence. To what end?
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Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo Ojutalayo
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr
Omoluabi
Are there any statements attributable to Zik where expounded on this "Union Government"? Or is this an inference/deduction from his advocacy for a federation regions and sub-regions/nations?
Just curious? Any citations will be appreciated.
Viscount
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Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: [africanworldforum] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Zik's Union Government (according to Obi)
Date: Thursday, October 19, 2017, 2:53 PM
Obi: Ayo, I used the deductive principle to situate your
statement, because its very context is the same. It would
mean this, since "Azikiwe, Ironsi, and the Igbo
political establishment were for a unitary system after
independence," Zik, Ironsi and the political
establishment therefore had to promulgate the decree
that turned Nigeria into a unitary state with Ironsi in
power. Otherwise, what is your context? Your
statement also means that Zik for instance has a
record of statements, actions, and considerations that not
only suggests, but asserts that once he became
president after independence, he called for and
supported the creation of a unitary state. In the
logic of language we call it correspondence, which
is what we test for with comprehension tasks. Effective
users of language detect parallels and correspondence when
patterns of structure are in what linguists call
"syntagmatic relationship." So, you must be very clear what
you say, so that what you mean may not be ambiguous
even to you as this situation clearly
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