Before You Crucify Dasuki, By Pius Adesanmi

[Joe Attueyi]

1) money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land....Pius Adesanmi 

Well if the Igbos did not get a share of the loot, that should not let them off the hook. We can still blame Iweala!

Before You Crucify Dasuki, By Pius Adesanmi

Posted on December 12, 2015 by Bode Dolu

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Those of you blaming Colonel Sambo Dasuki for facilitating prayers with N750 million should remember one thing: he is Nigeria’s most effective practitioner of Federal character and non-discrimination in recent memory.

1)The money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land. One may be inclined to blame him here for marginalizing the Igbo but given his painstaking efforts to admit every ethnicity into Ali Baba’s cave, I’d appeal strongly to the Igbo to forgive him. It’s an honest mistake. President Buhari says that some people have been returning looted funds (name them sir, let them have their day in court). My suggestion is to put Dasuki in charge of these newly-returned funds. He will address his error by making sure that Andy Ubah and Chris Ubah get a piece of the action. Some Yoruba are also grumbling that their own thieves got only roughly N100 million. Don’t be greedy at least your own thieves were present in the cave.

2) The Nobel Prize hero under whose irresponsible non-supervision this mindless plundering took place spent more time on church pulpits than at the presidential desk. There was practically no church he did not attend, kneeling at altars from Abakaliki to Zungeru, flying wealthy Pastors on Presidential trips to Israel, making pastors so comfortable their bling bling began to compete with 50 Cents’, making pastors so comfortable they started to build private Universities and lend their private jets to the Federal Republic of Nigeria for illegal shipment of funds to South Africa.

3) In view of number 2 above, my assessment of things is that Sambo Dasuki’s sensibilities as an inclusive pan-Nigerian visionary was offended by his boss’s over facilitation of Christianity with all the yams flying around. He merely sought to balance the equationby also organizing Islamic prayers with N750 million. Put yourself in the shoes of all the Muslim clerics who for five years saw Pastors become honorary citizens of the vaults of the Central Bank of Nigeria. Dasuki sought to restore a little religious balance in the yam business.

If you ask me, I think he deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace more than his boss but the decision on who clinches the Prize ultimately belongs to the supporters and facilitators of this era.

Credits: Pius Adesanmi, Facebook

 

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[Philip Achusim]

You mean Halliburton Bribery Scandal List is not the only one where Igbo are missing? And some idiots still don't see the reason for the agitations for Biafra? And some idiots still want to blame any and every Igbo for the Nigerian woes. Idiots even blamed Ihejirika for the Army incompetence in facing Boko Haram. Boko Haram and Biafra are on the same mission. Put Nigeria out of her lingering miseries. Biafra, Oodua Republic and Boko Haram Republic are in the offing. Oyibo will bomb Boko Haram republic to blazes as they defeat ISIS everywhere. 

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[Wharf A. Snake]

Yep it is the Igbo. The Igbo must be guilty somehow and since they did not get money lets hang Iweala for some made up reason.

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[Philip Achusim]

Nwanna:

Did I not tell you that in Nigeria, it is crime to be Igbo. Every and any Igbo is guilty of any and every charge. The Fulani loot Nbillions and share it with the Yoruba, blame Igbo. The Army can't battle Boko Haram, Igbo are guilty. Viagra does not work when they attempt to screw their wives, it is the Igbo they blame. Nigeria is broke according to their president and oil minister, the Igbo are guilty before any changes. No Igbo got the Halliburton Bribery Scandal $184million, blame the Igbo. Clueless Buhari is unable to start his war on corruption, the Igbo are guilty of that. Igbo want their Biafra, and they really let you know Nigerians are bloody idiots. Who in their right mind would not let the often guilty Igbo leave except for idiots? 

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[olaka...@aol.com]

Pastor Joe:

We see what we want to see and perceive what we readily would prefer to be the reality.
                                                                             
I also noticed that beyond the two chief gate keepers--Iweala and Amaefuele--
the former signing the go ahead and loot (and report yourself to the President later) Memo and
the latter providing the secret code for Dasuki's operatives
to open the safes at the CBN and abscond with $305 million USD of the people's funds,
that there were also no Igbo at the top of the food chain who have so far been indicted.

I wondered for a few seconds if this could be one of the undisclosed grievances for the current clamor for Biafra.:)
If the exclusion, either intentional or intentional of the Igbo in the sharing of the  proceeds from the re-stolen repatriated Abacha loot
is not an instance of marginalization what else would qualify as one?

After wading through my inbox looking for some eye catching headers from Wharfsnake decrying the Yoruba,
(whom he has collectively stigmatized as the congenital looters of Nigeria)
as the main looters in the latest heist, I suspected that the Yoruba just like the Igbo could also have been shortchanged
as I do not see any Yoruba at the top of the rogue food chain..

Then I suddenly remembered that the Yoruba were settled through Afenifere during the campaign and that the PDP and
APGA leaders in the SE were complaining then that their zone was being marginalized as there was no sign that
the stomach infrastructure funds were trickling down through them to the grassroots members in their zone.

Give it to our brothers and sisters in the SE: Even after being deprived of their share of the Abacha loot, they still voted with 
their conscienced for their adopted favorite son GEJ.

Some of the Yoruba leaders who collected some of the proceeds of the heist, threw a few stomach infrastructure crumbs  on the floor to the poor masses
to feed
their hungry stomachs, but still advised them to vote for the APC--which they did with the exception of those in Ekiti and Ondo states.

Nigeria--We Hail Thee!!!!

Seriously now, I believe it is time to punish these rogues by sentencing them to long or lifetime jail terms--sparing no one including
GEJ if the evidence leads to his desk! GEJ would only escape being indicted if being asleep at the job is an acceptable excuse
in our judicial system.

We are in a through mess.

Bye,

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[Nowa Omoigui]

The embattled former Minister of State, Bashir Yuguda, has told the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) that he gave a total of N600million cash to six chairmen of the Contact and Mobilisation Committee of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) for the 2015 general election.

He listed the beneficiaries as Bode George (South-West); Amb. Yerima Abdullahi (North-East); Peter Odili (South-South); Attahiru Bafarawa (North-West);  Jim Nwobodo (South -East); and Ahmadu Ali (North-Central).

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Nowa:

Thanks for the info.

I believe it is safe to assume that while all
zonal leaders of the PDP throughout Nigeria
received mobilization slush funds, most
kept the bulk of the funds for their own personal use
while distributing the balance down the PDP
food chain.

Some of the zonal PDP leaderss probably  just keot the
entire proceeds for their own personal use.

I think we are yet to hear more birds singing
as this Dasuki-gate affair continues to unfold.

Bye,

Ola

[Rex Marinus]

Abba:

All you need to establish behavior is to examine a pattern of consistent occurrence. From the Haliburton case to the current Dasukigate, take a look at the regional distribution of the names of the perpetrators, and you will have an answer to Nigeria's problems, and the sources of its corruption. It is a pattern, and you are a scientist, and there is an empirical evidence, right there before you.  Until any further evidence emerges, it is safe to say that the Igbo are generally not involved in the looting of Nigeria. They have made this point consistently. If the Jonathan administration was corrupt, and there was indeed widespread corruption in that administration, you can only imagine what went on before him. Jonathan's was the least corrupt of all the administrations before him. Any examination of the Nigerian government from 1970-2015, will show the same pattern of looting. And it is the same people that have looted Nigeria. There's no escaping that fact.

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Subject: Re: [Raayiriga] Before You Crucify Dasuki, By Pius Adesanmi

 

So, Nwobodo no be Igbo?  Chei, na war for Pius and una wo.   In any case, Naija's culture of corruption knows no ethnic (or any other) bound.  Thankfully, the current government is determined to exterminate the deadly cancer off Naija's shores....and this, as our beloved Martha Stewart would say, is a good thing.

Abba

On 13 December 2015 at 10:16, Joe Attueyi topc...@yahoo.com [Raayiriga] <Raay...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

1) money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land....Pius Adesanmi 

Well if the Igbos did not get a share of the loot, that should not let them off the hook. We can still blame Iweala!

Those of you blaming Colonel Sambo Dasuki for facilitating prayers with N750 million should remember one thing: he is Nigeria’s most effective practitioner of Federal character and non-discrimination in recent memory.

1)The money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land. One may be inclined to blame him here for marginalizing the Igbo but given his painstaking efforts to admit every ethnicity into Ali Baba’s cave, I’d appeal strongly to the Igbo to forgive him. It’s an honest mistake. President Buhari says that some people have been returning looted funds (name them sir, let them have their day in court). My suggestion is to put Dasuki in charge of these newly-returned funds. He will address his error by making sure that Andy Ubah and Chris Ubah get a piece of the action. Some Yoruba are also grumbling that their own thieves got only roughly N100 million. Don’t be greedy at least your own thieves were present in the cave.

2) The Nobel Prize hero under whose irresponsible non-supervision this mindless plundering took place spent more time on church pulpits than at the presidential desk. There was practically no church he did not attend, kneeling at altars from Abakaliki to Zungeru, flying wealthy Pastors on Presidential trips to Israel, making pastors so comfortable their bling bling began to compete with 50 Cents’, making pastors so comfortable they started to build private Universities and lend their private jets to the Federal Republic of Nigeria for illegal shipment of funds to South Africa.

3) In view of number 2 above, my assessment of things is that Sambo Dasuki’s sensibilities as an inclusive pan-Nigerian visionary was offended by his boss’s over facilitation of Christianity with all the yams flying around. He merely sought to balance the equationby also organizing Islamic prayers with N750 million. Put yourself in the shoes of all the Muslim clerics who for five years saw Pastors become honorary citizens of the vaults of the Central Bank of Nigeria. Dasuki sought to restore a little religious balance in the yam business.

If you ask me, I think he deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace more than his boss but the decision on who clinches the Prize ultimately belongs to the supporters and facilitators of this era.

Credits: Pius Adesanmi, Facebook

 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

While the rogues (of public funds) befriend themselves irrespective of where each comes from, dumb Nigerians defend rogues from their respective ethnic groups!

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[Joe Attueyi]

Abba my brother it does not work that way. Obaigbena confirmed he collected a portion of the loot and distributed to newspaper houses. We now know that SOME of the houses did not get any money! ( and as if to confirm a pattern one of the newspaper houses not paid is Orji Kalu's. Hehehehe. Na wao for Naija o)

So right now the only thing we know for certain is that Bashir Yuguda collected more than N600 million of the loot. He ALLEGES that he gave Nwobodo N100 million. We have not heard from Nwobodo and EFCC has not arrested Nwobodo--- so a reasonable person ought to take Bashir's allegations with a pinch of salt FOR NOW. 

In the interim we should all join hands in castigating Okonjo Iweala. Until such a time we find Ezeana Igirigi in the confirmed list of those who shared the loot. Then we can crucify Iweala for allowing her brother loot Nigeria 

Joe

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Bro. Joe the Pastor (plus Mallam Ezeana):  I ask again:  is Jim Nwobodo not Igbo?  Hehehehhehehe.

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Jonathan was UMYA's Vice-President, and in many ways his was a continuation of Umaru's presidency. Fair enough, Mr. Yar Adua was a fine gentleman, and some did say, but for his ill-health, a man who would have made a great difference in Nigeria's public leadership as president. Yet the 3 years  of his presidency has not come to this close scrutiny. As for Buhari/Idiagbon, it was still an era when the great mandarins like Alhaji Abubakar Alhaji, lived above the law, and there was selective justice, and there were 24 suitcases of God knows what allowed through Nigeria's customs unchecked. The two years between 1983 and 1985 has also not been scrutinized, but there is clear evidence of a pattern, much of the evidence of which were squelched by decree silencing the media. Nigerians have very short memory, but there was a time when N1.2 billion, the equivalent today of $120 billion allegedly disappeared in 1979, under the watch of Obasanjo as military HOS, and Buhari as Petroleum minister. Afidavits were sworn to by the likes of the late Professor Ayo Awojobi and Fela, and a senate inquiry under the senate leadership of Senator Olusola Saraki, father of the current president of senate concluded that there was missing money, which compelled President Shagari to institute the Irikefe judicial panel of inquiries, which dismissed the case, albeit unsatisfactorily to many Nigerians. In that same allegation, the money was allegedly transported in cash in a Nigerian Airways Boeing to a British bank straight from the Nigerian Central Bank. Jonathan was a mild-mannered president, whose style of administration was decentralized and by delegation. Nothing wrong with that.  But as I said three years ago in my column, the man seemed spineless; and his payoff of the likes of Tompolo with defence contracts seemed to me egregious and ill-advised, and prebendal. I still think so.  But even at that, in spite pf my really deep reservations of about that administration, I still think that his was not the most corrupt administration in Nigeria. Obasanjo, Babangida, and Abacha, may share that (dis)honour. 
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Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [Raayiriga] Before You Crucify Dasuki, By Pius Adesanmi

 

You said ``.... Jonathan's was the least corrupt of all the administrations before him".

Can you prove this?   Can you, in all honesty, say Jonathan's was less corrupt than UMYA's or Buhari/Idiagbon's?

I submit to you that the astronomical corruption we have seen during Jonathan's regime (the missing billions from the NNPC, the trillions expended on import waivers; the squandamania of money they appropriated for ``national security", the billions they said they ``spent" in the Niger Delta etc.) is at a level unseen in Nigeria since the beginning of time.  GEJ is in a class of his own....and more revelations (in the coming weeks and months) will further cement this fact.

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Abba:

All you need to establish behavior is to examine a pattern of consistent occurrence. From the Haliburton case to the current Dasukigate, take a look at the regional distribution of the names of the perpetrators, and you will have an answer to Nigeria's problems, and the sources of its corruption. It is a pattern, and you are a scientist, and there is an empirical evidence, right there before you.  Until any further evidence emerges, it is safe to say that the Igbo are generally not involved in the looting of Nigeria. They have made this point consistently. If the Jonathan administration was corrupt, and there was indeed widespread corruption in that administration, you can only imagine what went on before him. Jonathan's was the least corrupt of all the administrations before him. Any examination of the Nigerian government from 1970-2015, will show the same pattern of looting. And it is the same people that have looted Nigeria. There's no escaping that fact.

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So, Nwobodo no be Igbo?  Chei, na war for Pius and una wo.   In any case, Naija's culture of corruption knows no ethnic (or any other) bound.  Thankfully, the current government is determined to exterminate the deadly cancer off Naija's shores....and this, as our beloved Martha Stewart would say, is a good thing.

Abba

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1) money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land....Pius Adesanmi 

Well if the Igbos did not get a share of the loot, that should not let them off the hook. We can still blame Iweala!

Those of you blaming Colonel Sambo Dasuki for facilitating prayers with N750 million should remember one thing: he is Nigeria’s most effective practitioner of Federal character and non-discrimination in recent memory.

1)The money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land. One may be inclined to blame him here for marginalizing the Igbo but given his painstaking efforts to admit every ethnicity into Ali Baba’s cave, I’d appeal strongly to the Igbo to forgive him. It’s an honest mistake. President Buhari says that some people have been returning looted funds (name them sir, let them have their day in court). My suggestion is to put Dasuki in charge of these newly-returned funds. He will address his error by making sure that Andy Ubah and Chris Ubah get a piece of the action. Some Yoruba are also grumbling that their own thieves got only roughly N100 million. Don’t be greedy at least your own thieves were present in the cave.

2) The Nobel Prize hero under whose irresponsible non-supervision this mindless plundering took place spent more time on church pulpits than at the presidential desk. There was practically no church he did not attend, kneeling at altars from Abakaliki to Zungeru, flying wealthy Pastors on Presidential trips to Israel, making pastors so comfortable their bling bling began to compete with 50 Cents’, making pastors so comfortable they started to build private Universities and lend their private jets to the Federal Republic of Nigeria for illegal shipment of funds to South Africa.

3) In view of number 2 above, my assessment of things is that Sambo Dasuki’s sensibilities as an inclusive pan-Nigerian visionary was offended by his boss’s over facilitation of Christianity with all the yams flying around. He merely sought to balance the equationby also organizing Islamic prayers with N750 million. Put yourself in the shoes of all the Muslim clerics who for five years saw Pastors become honorary citizens of the vaults of the Central Bank of Nigeria. Dasuki sought to restore a little religious balance in the yam business.

If you ask me, I think he deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace more than his boss but the decision on who clinches the Prize ultimately belongs to the supporters and facilitators of this era.

Credits: Pius Adesanmi, Facebook

 

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It really is a beauty to behold !

I can't laugh.....

Anyway, e mi o je gbi, so mi o ni ku gbi!

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While
the rogues (of public funds) befriend themselves
irrespective of where each comes from, dumb Nigerians defend
rogues from their respective ethnic groups!
Ayo
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13, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Rex
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Abba:
All you need to establish behavior is to examine a
pattern of consistent occurrence. From the Haliburton case
to the current Dasukigate, take a look at the regional
distribution of the names of the perpetrators, and you will
have an answer to Nigeria's problems,
and the sources of its corruption. It is a pattern, and you
are a scientist, and there is an empirical evidence, right
there before you.  Until any further evidence emerges, it
is safe to say that the Igbo are
generally not involved in the looting of Nigeria.
They have made this point consistently. If the Jonathan
administration was corrupt, and there was indeed widespread
corruption in that administration, you can only imagine what
went on before him. Jonathan's
was the least corrupt of all the administrations
before him. Any examination of the Nigerian government
from 1970-2015, will show the same pattern of looting. And
it is the same people that have looted Nigeria. There's
no escaping that fact.
Obi Nwakanma

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Obi Nwakanma:

And from your astute GENERAL observation below, what are now supposed to do: EXCLUDE in general ALL non-Igbos from where there might be corruption? Exclude the goats from the yam?  Remember that in making your observation, you are INCLUDING in general Tiv, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ogoni, Tapa, along with your obvious targets: Yoruba, Hausa and Fulani - at least until and unless you make the exceptions more explicit.

So what do you say when you are reminded that IN GENERAL all the commanding heights of the finances and economy and administration of GEJ's administration were occupied by Igbo or Igbo affiliates, starting with GEJ himself (an adopted Igbo son called Azikiwe); Okonjo-Iweala (FMF-CME), continuing with Allison-Madueke (MOP), to Emefiele (CBN), to Okongwu (BO), to Oti (SEC), to Nwanze (AFMF), to Nwankwo (DMO), to Obi (NSE), Eze (BPP) , not to talk of Anyim (SGF), Ekwerenmadu (SDP), Ihedioha (HDS), Oduah (FMA) and Ihejerika (Army)?

What were they all doing when all this roguery was going on - sleeping at the helms of being guardians of our society?  Will it be better if they switched places with the Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani and Tiv and Urhobo ....

Please tell this audience.....

No, Obi Nwakanma, don't go there:  counting our own rogues as fewer as other peoples rogues will do the country no good, because the total devastation is equal to the number of rogues multiplied by the average amount of roguery - both known and unknown.  And remember that our rogues may be more clever that other rogues in hiding their loot.  

Some of the roguery that I am reading are pretty silly and easily discovered,  except that they did not expect to be discovered, which happened when the sitting party lost.  I mean: if you are given a N300 million consultancy project - as Dr Iyorcha Ayo or Maazi Nduka Obaigbena were given -  where is the advertisment and  contract paper?  Dates and names and work description?  Payment schedule and completion certificates?

See....

No, Obi Nwakanma, in the simplest sense, 

(1)  a polity is comprised of the Governed, the Governors and the Governing Institutions and Laws in between them.   

(2)  It must be presumed that the purpose of the polity is to ensure the greatest good for the greatest number of the Governed, not the Governors, which is not the present case in Nigeria.   

(3)  In a democracy the MOST IMPORTANT institution is the Election Institution and Related Laws, because if the Governed cannot choose and change their Governors right, then the Governors can do ANYTHING that they wish with impunity.    We must get our ELECTIONS right.....we must improve on what we currently have, and we will get there..

(4)  The next important institution is the Legislative Assembly and the Constitution, with the presumption that laws (and the Constitution, which is the grund norm of all laws) are established for the purpose of ensuring the greatest good for the greatest number of the Governed.  Our legislators must not become our masters.......

(5) Finally, is the importance of equality before the Law of both the Governed and the Governors, so that no one of them is ABOVE the law, or BENEATH it either, and that EACH one is PERSONALLY responsible for both rewards AND sanctions for obeying or disobeying the law.  For example, the concept whereby a GOVERNED believes that he is exonerated from sanction because he has been so directed to carry out an illegal act (like sign off cash from the official till) by a GOVERNOR (by which I mean SUPERIOR here) must be banished from Nigeria.....along with protection of those who refuse to act illegally upon such instruction.  All who act illegally must be punished.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

PS:  In the ongoing roguery, may I suggest that:

(1)  we recover all loot - or as much as possible.

(2)  where we don't believe that we have recovered enough from a given person - including after selling off their known property - we substitute a jail term, like 5 years for every un-recovered N100 million.

(3)  that we BAN from political office for 15 years (or even for life) every one so convicted, and ban from directorship of companies that do work for government.

(4)  And so on....

There is too much roguery being revealed...

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Rex Marinus <rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Abba:

All you need to establish behavior is to examine a pattern of consistent occurrence. From the Haliburton case to the current Dasukigate, take a look at the regional distribution of the names of the perpetrators, and you will have an answer to Nigeria's problems, and the sources of its corruption. It is a pattern, and you are a scientist, and there is an empirical evidence, right there before you.  Until any further evidence emerges, it is safe to say that the Igbo are generally not involved in the looting of Nigeria. They have made this point consistently. If the Jonathan administration was corrupt, and there was indeed widespread corruption in that administration, you can only imagine what went on before him. Jonathan's was the least corrupt of all the administrations before him. Any examination of the Nigerian government from 1970-2015, will show the same pattern of looting. And it is the same people that have looted Nigeria. There's no escaping that fact.

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So, Nwobodo no be Igbo?  Chei, na war for Pius and una wo.   In any case, Naija's culture of corruption knows no ethnic (or any other) bound.  Thankfully, the current government is determined to exterminate the deadly cancer off Naija's shores....and this, as our beloved Martha Stewart would say, is a good thing.

Abba

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1) money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land....Pius Adesanmi 

Well if the Igbos did not get a share of the loot, that should not let them off the hook. We can still blame Iweala!

Those of you blaming Colonel Sambo Dasuki for facilitating prayers with N750 million should remember one thing: he is Nigeria’s most effective practitioner of Federal character and non-discrimination in recent memory.

1)The money he stole went around every ethnicity except the Igbo. No thief from any ethnicity was left behind except Igbo land. One may be inclined to blame him here for marginalizing the Igbo but given his painstaking efforts to admit every ethnicity into Ali Baba’s cave, I’d appeal strongly to the Igbo to forgive him. It’s an honest mistake. President Buhari says that some people have been returning looted funds (name them sir, let them have their day in court). My suggestion is to put Dasuki in charge of these newly-returned funds. He will address his error by making sure that Andy Ubah and Chris Ubah get a piece of the action. Some Yoruba are also grumbling that their own thieves got only roughly N100 million. Don’t be greedy at least your own thieves were present in the cave.

2) The Nobel Prize hero under whose irresponsible non-supervision this mindless plundering took place spent more time on church pulpits than at the presidential desk. There was practically no church he did not attend, kneeling at altars from Abakaliki to Zungeru, flying wealthy Pastors on Presidential trips to Israel, making pastors so comfortable their bling bling began to compete with 50 Cents’, making pastors so comfortable they started to build private Universities and lend their private jets to the Federal Republic of Nigeria for illegal shipment of funds to South Africa.

3) In view of number 2 above, my assessment of things is that Sambo Dasuki’s sensibilities as an inclusive pan-Nigerian visionary was offended by his boss’s over facilitation of Christianity with all the yams flying around. He merely sought to balance the equationby also organizing Islamic prayers with N750 million. Put yourself in the shoes of all the Muslim clerics who for five years saw Pastors become honorary citizens of the vaults of the Central Bank of Nigeria. Dasuki sought to restore a little religious balance in the yam business.

If you ask me, I think he deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace more than his boss but the decision on who clinches the Prize ultimately belongs to the supporters and facilitators of this era.

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Obi,

This Dasukigate is the worst corruption (known to the public) in Nigeria's history and from all indications the public will get to know of more corruption of the same proportion on the same Jonathan's watch. Until evidence of worse corruption under another regime is presented, Jonathan's regime is the most corrupt.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Joe Attueyi]

Abba my brother, as a scientist I am sure you like to stick with the facts:

1. Obaigbena has confirmed he collected a share of the loot on behalf of newspaper houses and distributed same. 2 newspaper houses denied receiving money from him. His office has now confirmed that the 2 newspaper houses did not get their share. One of which is Kalu's. 

2. Bashir Yuguda has confirmed to EFCC IN WRITING that he collected a share of the loot. He claims to have given Nwobodo et al N100 million each. So far we have not heard from Nwobodo. So far EFCC has not arrested Nwobodo et all. Therefore Yuguda's claims are still in the realm of allegations. 

3. What reasonable folks are saying is that since it will not be right to be prosecuting folks for looting Nigeria without an Igbo man in the mix we should all join hands in castigating Okonjo Iweala   It is our patriotic duty--- until the fullness of time when all shall be revealed 

Joe

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On Dec 13, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Abba Gumel <abba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bro. Joe the Pastor:

So, Kalu's newspaper was not paid because Kalu happens, by omission or commission, to be Igbo?  Using your own logic, it is only Obaigbena making the claim of ``distributing the money"....so, we should ``take his word with a pinch of salt".  Further, Dasuki was the one allegedly claiming to have distributed all these humongous sums....and we did here from the alleged recipients (it isn't just Nwobodo who didn't deny or confirm the receipt of such...so, why Nwobodo is singled out?)  The point is that no ethnic group is marginalized in this massively corrupt racket. 

Things are beginning to unravel... things that were hitherto hidden, are now seeing the light of the day.  In the fullness of time, all will be revealed...and all those that have something to hide will be made to account for their crimes against the Nigerian nation.  Folks. you ain;t seen nothing yet (vis a vis PDP mega corruption).  Believe me.  More earth-shattering revelations lie ahead.

Abba

[Mobolaji Aluko]

Abba:

Let us NOT allow Joe Attueyi to OBFUSCATE.  

Originally, only 12 newspapers were listed by Obaigbena's NPAN and Kalu's paper The New Telegraph was one of them.  Then suddenly, AFTER the money for 12 had been negotiated, he wanted a 13th Newspaper (Blueprint) paid, but NPAN said, "Ha, but we have money only for 12"  Anyway, during all the wahala,  that Blueprint paper was paid what should have been paid to the New Telegraph paper, with the agreement with Maazi Kalu (who owns both papers) that the New Telegraph would still be paid, not from new money from the NSA - Dasuki was already tired of them - but from money that should have gone to NPAN.

So Kalu's stable will end up getting the LION SHARE (N20 million) of ALL the money - whenever NPAN coughs up the money.

And there you have it.  We are entitled to our opinions, but not our facts.

Bolaji Aluko

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[Rex Marinus]

Abba, Jonathan was UMYA's Vice-president whether you like it or not. So, ok, the names Dasuki, Yuguda, Bafarawa, etc. - jonathan's gang as you have called them - are rolled into one Alhaji A. Alhaji, or even the elder Dasuki, who sat atop one of the greatest banking scandals in modern history, the BCCI. You remember that, right? Abba, it would take too long to hash through these patterns of infamy. It is now emerging that the "loose link" in Jonathan's administration, the corrupt part of his administration, were those from the North whom he trusted with money to fight Boko Haram.  So, if you say Jonathan's was the most corrupt administration, you know where to look. In any case, in 1993/4, there was the $12 billion missing Gulf war oil windfall, exposed by the Okigbo reports. Take a look at that report, you'd notice the same pattern of involvement. The Haliburton scandal is by all its dimensions a far more terrifying affair than this arms scandal; but even that is a tip of the iceberg. From 1999-2007, Nigeria had no idea how much it earned actually in oil revenue. There was no accounting, and that was at the height of global oil sales. Abba, corruption in Nigeria has it roots and sources in what I call the nature of the decadence of the Ottoman courts which is the tradition inherited by the oligarchs of the North. Whatever they touch, turns to rust.

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See mine interspersed

On 13 December 2015 at 14:30, Rex Marinus <rexma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jonathan was UMYA's Vice-President, and in many ways his was a continuation of Umaru's presidency.

I disagree.  Jonathan was not a particularly involved member of the UMYA regime (he was essentially sidelined).  UMYA was not corrupt....at least he was not anywhere near Jonathan and his gang.   Your claim that Jonathan's was the least corrupt falls flat on its face....because I have given you a simple counter example.   

 

Fair enough, Mr. Yar Adua was a fine gentleman, and some did say, but for his ill-health, a man who would have made a great difference in Nigeria's public leadership as president. Yet the 3 years  of his presidency has not come to this close scrutiny.

But despite the lack of ``close scrutiny", you made the general claim that GEJ's was less corrupt than all others before him (including UMYA's).  To this I say, fah, fah, fah FOUL.

 

As for Buhari/Idiagbon, it was still an era when the great mandarins like Alhaji Abubakar Alhaji, lived above the law, and there was selective justice, and there were 24 suitcases of God knows what allowed through Nigeria's customs unchecked.

 

I know Alhaji Abubakar Alhaji very well.  He never ``lived above the law", and he wasn't a player in PMB's government of 1983-85.  In any case, having one person ``live above the law" (even if true...and it ain't) doesn't make the Buhari regime a corrupt one.  The issue of the suitcases has been comprehensively addressed by Buhari ad nauseaum.  Nothing more to add here.

 

The two years between 1983 and 1985 has also not been scrutinized, but there is clear evidence of a pattern, much of the evidence of which were squelched by decree silencing the media.

You are changing the goal post.  You claimed Jonathan's was less corrupt than previous governments.  Now you are talking human rights violation.  totally different.   Again, you have not proven that Buhari's 1983-85 government was corrupt....talkless of being more corrupt than Jonathan's.  

 

Nigerians have very short memory, but there was a time when N1.2 billion, the equivalent today of $120 billion allegedly disappeared in 1979, under the watch of Obasanjo as military HOS, and Buhari as Petroleum minister.

Afidavits were sworn to by the likes of the late Professor Ayo Awojobi and Fela, and a senate inquiry under the senate leadership of Senator Olusola Saraki, father of the current president of senate concluded that there was missing money, which compelled President Shagari to institute the Irikefe judicial panel of inquiries, which dismissed the case, albeit unsatisfactorily to many Nigerians.

Who were the ``many Nigerians" who were ``unsatisfied"?  The above is a non issue....if it was an issue, someone would have taken OBJ or PMB or both to court by now.  In any case, you have not provided an iota of evidence that justifies your ``Jonathan is the least corrupt" leader claim. 

Abba

[Afis Deinde]

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Only the deaf, the blind and the Dumbos among Nigerians think otherwise.
From day one PDP are looters, they should be taken to bar beach for some target practices.
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[afis 'Deinde]

Baba Wharfy, you are now seeing it the right way!

Shikena 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

The embattled former Minister of State, Bashir Yuguda, has told the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) that he gave a total of N600million cash to six chairmen of the Contact and Mobilisation Committee of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) for the 2015 general election. He listed the beneficiaries as Bode George (South-West); Amb. Yerima Abdullahi (North-East); Peter Odili (South-South); Attahiru Bafarawa (North-West);  Jim Nwobodo (South -East); and Ahmadu Ali (North-Central).

(SOURCE:  VANGUARD)

Joe,

Do we need to hear from Nwobodo to believe this story? Except he was not the SE Chairman of PDP Contact and Mobilisation Committee. If every Chairman collected, why would Nwobodo not collect? This idea that Igbos were marginalized in corrupt practices or Igbos were not as corrupt as other Nigerians or we must defend corrupt officials from our neck of the woods is ridiculous!

I remember telling you that Ngozi should have resigned (to protect her name and integrity) in protest if she knew that public funds were being misused (using public money for ruling political party) and she could not stop it. For someone of her global status, she was a disappointment even if she did not take part in corrupt practices. She cannot claim not to have known what was happening around her. She had no business in a government that would not take her professional advice concerning corrupt practices.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Wharfery Snake]

Nwanna Rex Marinus, ya gazie o! I have cried and hollered to no one listening that the looters of our destiny are Yoruba, Fulani. Some have termed me an anti Yoruba even though I am a full fledged Yoruba man. Some of my fellow Yoruba have disowned me but I won't relent. Yoruba and Fulani have destroyed Nigeria and will continue until somebody stops them. It is that simple folks.

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[Wharfery Snake]

Ayo my man, 

Your vision  appear to be clouded by the numerous women in your life. If not, how does 2.1 billion compare to Obasanjo's 16 billion? 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

Cursed snake,

I am not aware that any of Obasanjo's corrupt practices is made known to the public as Dasuki's yet. Until then, Jonathan's regime has the most corrupt record.

Ayo Ojutalayo

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[Rex Marinus]

Bolaji Aluko:

 Here's the "commanding height of the fiance and economy of Nigeria" under Jonathan:

A) Ngozi okonjo-Iweala (Fed. min. of Fiance).  Permanent Secretary: Danladi Kifasi, and from 2013, Anastasia Daniel-Nwaobia.

The federal ministry of finance has the following agencies, which constitute the commanding height of Nigerian finance and economic administration, and I will list them and their heads under Jonathan/Okonjo-Iweala:

1. Office of the Accountant General:  AGoF, Jonas Ogunniyi  Otunla

2. Federal Inland Revenue Service:  D-G, Sunday Odugbesan (before him Kabir Mashi & Ifueko Omogui)

3. Investment and Security Tribunal: D-G, Ngozi Chianakwalam

4. National Insurance Commission (NAICOM):  Commissioner for Insurance, Fola Daniel

 5. Nigeria Deposit Insurance co, (NDIC): D-G, Umaru Ibrahim

6. Security & Exchange Commission, SEC: D-G, Arunmah Oteh

7. Nigerian Customs: Abdulahi Dikko

8. Office of debt Management, D-G, Abraham Nwankwo

9. Bureau of Public Enterprise: Emeka Eze.

10. NEXIM,  D-G,  Robert Oryah

11. Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, Governor, June 2009- Feb, 2014, Godwin Emefiele, June 2014- present. 

B) Olusegun Aganga, Minister of Finance, 2011- 2013, Minister for Trade, Industry, and Investment, 2013-2015.

The problem, Dr. Aluko is, wherever an Igbo name appears, it feels like one too many in your minds. But compare this list to the current list of appointments in Buhari's government. I have not heard you quibble. Its all so good. But let's keep the conversation going...  . I do quite agree with you nonetheless, on your 1-5 of the general principle of the governed, the polity, democracy, and all that good stuff.

Obi Nwakanma

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[Rex Marinus]

"So what do you say when you are reminded that IN GENERAL all the commanding heights of the finances and economy and administration of GEJ's administration were occupied by Igbo or Igbo affiliates, starting with GEJ himself (an adopted Igbo son called Azikiwe); Okonjo-Iweala (FMF-CME), continuing with Allison-Madueke (MOP), to Emefiele (CBN), to Okongwu (BO), to Oti (SEC), to Nwanze (AFMF), to Nwankwo (DMO), to Obi (NSE), Eze (BPP) , not to talk of Anyim (SGF), Ekwerenmadu (SDP), Ihedioha (HDS), Oduah (FMA) and Ihejerika (Army)"

-Bolaji Aluko

Bolaji Aluko:

 Here's the "commanding height of the fiance and economy of Nigeria" under Jonathan:

A) Ngozi okonjo-Iweala (Fed. min. of Fiance).  Permanent Secretary: Danladi Kifasi, and from 2013, Anastasia Daniel-Nwaobia.

The federal ministry of finance has the following agencies, which constitute the commanding height of Nigerian finance and economic administration, and I will list them and their heads under Jonathan/Okonjo-Iweala:

1. Office of the Accountant General:  AGoF, Jonas Ogunniyi  Otunla

2. Federal Inland Revenue Service:  D-G, Sunday Odugbesan (before him Kabir Mashi & Ifueko Omogui)

3. Investment and Security Tribunal: D-G, Ngozi Chianakwalam

4. National Insurance Commission (NAICOM):  Commissioner for Insurance, Fola Daniel

 5. Nigeria Deposit Insurance co, (NDIC): D-G, Umaru Ibrahim

6. Security & Exchange Commission, SEC: D-G, Arunmah Oteh

7. Nigerian Customs: Abdulahi Dikko

8. Office of debt Management, D-G, Abraham Nwankwo

9. Bureau of Public Enterprise: Emeka Eze.

10. NEXIM,  D-G,  Robert Oryah

11. Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, Governor, June 2009- Feb, 2014, Godwin Emefiele, June 2014- present. 

B) Olusegun Aganga, Minister of Finance, 2011- 2013, Minister for Trade, Industry, and Investment, 2013-2015.

The problem, Dr. Aluko is, wherever an Igbo name appears, it feels like one too many in your minds. But compare this list to the current list of appointments in Buhari's government. I have not heard you quibble. Its all so good. But let's keep the conversation going...  . I do quite agree with you nonetheless, on your 1-5 of the general principle of the governed, the polity, democracy, and all that good stuff.

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

"Ayo, Sometimes you make some unintended sense in a few of your comments." . . . DanAkusobi

Dan,

I make sense all the time but he who is biased against me cannot see sense in what I write. For example, you see "unintended sense" (not intended sense!) in a few of my comments. You can be sure there are some in your ilk that will NEVER see any sense in whatever I write.

Ayo Ojutalayo

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ” . . . Martin Luther King Jr

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Subject: Re: Joe Attueyi: Re: Before You Crucify Dasuki, By Pius Adesanmi

Ayo,

Sometimes you make some unintended sense in a few of your comments.

Your sentiment on Mrs. Iweala is mine too, whether she is Igbo or my sister or not. 

Anyone that waters a ground for known thieves may not escape a blame for lost items. 

Dan

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Obi Nwakanma:

I wrote about "commanding heights of the finances and economy and administration" of GEJ's administration, and you came back only on "finances and economy", tactically omitting "administration"?

You sneaky Rasta! :-)

No, Obi Nwakanma:  it is you and your ilk that are ALWAYS counting Igbo, and so sometimes people help you to count.   When a single Igbo doe something good, you shout to high heavens that "Igbos are this good, Igbos are that good", and quickly generalize.  But when an Igbo person is caught stealing or doing something wicked, you keep quiet, and when someone points it out, asking where your voice is, you call that person an "Igbo hater".  When a non-Igbo does good, you keep quiet. But when a non-Igbo does bad, you and your swamp-snakey friends generalize to high heavens, and start to say "In general, Igbos are not like that."

In particular nko?  

Listen up:  I know about Otunla and Dikko, etc. (some of those others that you named command nothing except papers), but my whole point is that we MUST stop counting the ethnicity of our rogues, because that is the ONLY way we can punish them EVENLY and ADEQUATELY without the additional emotionalism of them coming from our ethnicity.  Let me assure you of this:  I do not feel a SINGLE squirm when a Yoruba fellow is caught stealing:  I just say "Good for him - let him give us our money back and be punished for it."  But it does look as if once that person is Igbo, with the siege mentality of a very few loud ones among you, you start to hem and haw - and holler about Biafra and marginalization.

Haba....

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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[Wharfery Snake]

Ayo 7 wives:

Are you saying that the Senate hearing into the looting of Nigeria after the Obasanjo regime was not public? You must have been encased in odious ecstasy during the days of revelation to the whole world.

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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