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[Joe Attueyi]

I could have told them this and saved them a lot of time

Who is going to lend you money when you have 12 different FX rates within your economy?

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[afis 'Deinde]

But you are encouraging people in Diaspora to lend money to an unstable government, and unstable economy.

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[Joe Attueyi]

As Prof Aluko says Diaspora bond is Investment for 'patriotic reasons'. 

My own view is that there should be no Diaspora voting without taxation ( a flip on the Boston tea party mantra). 

1. The Government is going to release its economic plan in February it says. After 20 months in Government. Right now it's fiscal and monetary policy makers are working at cross purposes and pointing fingers at each other. No rational investor will put money into such a disorganised economic environment except for 'emotional reasons'. 

The folks we are looking to borrow from are not known for emotionalism 

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Afis:

You seem not to understand that that is PART of the reason for a DIASPORA Bond: that when a nation finds it a tad difficult to get usual
"acquaintances and friends" to lend it (all the) money it needs, it turns to kins to "stand in the gap".

Diaspora citizens are KINS to a nation. The motivation for lending is slightly different from others, but such kins are then responsible to set some conditions for such a lending, to ensure that whatever got the nation into such a dire situation should not be repeated. "Omo iya, o se iwo ni, sugbon maa ya e ni owo yi, o de gbodo lo bayi ati bayi,.." ("Brother, because you are my flesh and blood, I will lend you this money provided you use it as agreed.")

When such kinship is shown to a nation, it is called patriotism.   If you don't like that word, use a more spiritually anthromorphic word: self-love. It is NOT a compulsion, and it does not mean that you should lose your shirt,  but if you do it and it succeeds, naturally you will feel good.

And there you have it.

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[Wharf A. Snake]

Diaspora voting is a means to steal money. I am against the idea. Nigeria cannot afford diaspora voting and worse it would be another method to manipulate votes.

If you want to vote go to Nigeria and vote there.

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[Edward Erapi]

WHAT is the population of Nigerians out there (diaspora)?

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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

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Diaspora voting is a means to steal money. I am against the idea. Nigeria cannot afford diaspora voting and worse it would be another method to manipulate votes.

If you want to vote go to Nigeria and vote there.

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As Prof Aluko says Diaspora bond is Investment for 'patriotic reasons'. 

My own view is that there should be no Diaspora voting without taxation ( a flip on the Boston tea party mantra). 

1. The Government is going to release its economic plan in February it says. After 20 months in Government. Right now it's fiscal and monetary policy makers are working at cross purposes and pointing fingers at each other. No rational investor will put money into such a disorganised economic environment except for 'emotional reasons'. 

The folks we are looking to borrow from are not known for emotionalism 

Joe

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But you are encouraging people in Diaspora to lend money to an unstable government, and unstable economy.

Shikena 

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I could have told them this and saved them a lot of time

Who is going to lend you money when you have 12 different FX rates within your economy?

Joe

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[afis 'Deinde]

Good morning sir, Dr Aluko:

I understand your points sir, but I am very wary of Situation-Nigeriana.

The Fulani herdsmen and their kins killed Yoruba in the Oke Ogun axis, we thought an agreement was reached between Late Lam Adeshina and the then Head of the Fulani cow owners Mohammed Buhari.

The agreement has been breached so many times since then, and so many Yoruba have died.  

We have the Ketu killings, the Idoma killings, Igbo killings, makes one wonder what kind of "kins" we are in bed with.

If Buhari can't abide by a simple "gentleman's agreement" between him and the governor of a Yoruba state, how are we sure funds from the Bond coming from mostly Igbo and Yoruba abroad, won't be diverted to further equip the Fulani/Hausa Islamists?

What assurance is there that post-Buhari, Nigeria will keep its own end of the bargain?

Sir, in this kind of unusual environment, the people willing to participate must insist that the govt curb the herdsmen's murderous activities all over the country.

Secondly, there should by now be an agreement on either Regional govt creation or some other Final solutions.

Diaspora Bond has to make more impact than just loan for infrastructure.

I do believe the Fulani are taking Yoruba for another round of costly ride thru their murderous Amusement Park.

Nothing wrong with the Bond proposal, but lots wrong with those people we share a boat ride with. 

You state sir: "Diaspora citizens are KINS to a nation. The motivation for lending is slightly different from others, but such kins are then responsible to set some conditions for such a lending......"......UNQUOTE.

Though the conditions you set differ from mine, however, it is interesting to note you agree "some conditions" need to be set.

I just go a step further that part of the conditions People overseas should agree on should include, Fulani atrocities against other Tribes, and either Regionalization or nothing.

If the people in Diaspora are going to make meaningful impact, there's nothing wrong in insisting that their brothers and sisters back home should at least not DIE from Fulani's hands. Most of these kith and kind of ours don't get their salaries on time, that's ok, we send them funds thru Western Union.

They don't have pipe-borne water, that's ok, we send them funds for boreholes.

They have chronic kidney failure, that's ok, we provide them Healthcare by fund or shipping them to Buhari's UK hospital.

But one thing we can't replace for them is LIFE.

So, It is not too much to ask, sir, that the Federal Govt of the so called FRN, should please stop the Fulani from killing our brothers and sisters!

We all live this life but once, most our dead Yoruba and Igbo people died not knowing what "living" meant. 

And everyone including our Southern leaders act as if nothing keeps on happening. 

That's unfair.

Shikena 
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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

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[Joe Attueyi]

Afis

You are indeed a contradiction in all respects. 

And I don't know whether that is a good or bad thing to be honest. 

A very interesting character worth knowing. 

I think behind all that gutter- language -mostly- Igbophobic brouhaha you spew hereabouts is a razor sharp brain. Why you choose mostly to dumb it down is worthy of study. 

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Afis:

Thanks for your understanding - and I read you.

We should all insist on a United, Safe, Happy, and Well-Governed Nigeria, free of internal oppression or favored class of people,  Diaspora-bond or no bond.  Both the Bond and the Vote would give us leverage, but the Diaspora Vote even more so.

In addition to the National Diaspora Bond, nothing stops a region - say the SouthWest - to set up a SouthWest Nigeria Diaspora Bond - and ask for subscriptions both from its "Diaspora" from within and without Nigeria.  If you are more comfortable with that, fine.

But let me repeat:  a Bond comes with specification for what projects - usually two or three - that the Government would use it for over a fixed period of time.  What those projects are would still determine whether or at what level you would invest in such a "patriotic" bond.  It cannot be mandated.

Let us move on.

Bolaji Aluko

[ishola williams]

Prof.I beg you sir. You must  please mobilise this same  LOBBY PLATFORM for the quick passage of the  Amendment to Constitution the Constitution on the Resource Control Bill being discussed at the House of Reps.

 When the bill is passed by NASS and signed by the President,the Non-Resident Nigerians(forget the word diaspora as nigerians were not dispersed ) will have a monument erected to give them that honour for bringing the true permanent change.Not only will they vote,they will also be be represented of  in NASS( according to an agreement with Federation of Non-Resident Nigerian Organisations,the new name for NIDO to adopt)  and State Assemblies.(In agreement with Overseas branches of Towns/Autonomous Communities).

I agree with you sir,once there is a will,there is a way.We are looking for the will and the way for that bill to be passed and signed before 01 April,2017.iw

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Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

The Oha1

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[DIPO ENIOLA]

Prince Adey:

Just to add to your concern, for more than two weeks last year, it was reported that the Nigeria House in New York was in darkness. Why? Because the light bill was NOT paid. The inside of the building itself is nothing to write home about in terms of maintenance/upkeep.

Happy New Year to you. Regards to your family.

The Oha 1

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*** I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"*** Prof. Bolaji Aluko

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Greetings Doc!,

Ehn, I don't have to travel to Nigeria to state my views.... I hope this yeyeness is tossed out. Heck, if the Nigerian personnel abroad 

cannot handle the issuing of passports without wahala, I doubt if they can handle the so-called "diaspora voting". This is just a total

waste of time. Then again.....

Happy New Year!

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Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

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Adey:

First, Happy New Year.

Secondly, I am NOT asking you to go to Nigeria to state your views.   You can even HURL your views CYBERNETICALLY from there in California! But those Diasporans who go to Nigeria live-and-personal to state and lobby - and even sue -  for  their views have a little upper hand, here, dont you think?

Thirdly, because there is "passport wahala" in Embassies abroad, are you asking that passports abroad no longer be issued?  We should be asking for improvement in passport issuance improvement, not cessation.  Similarly Diaspora vote:  if passports are citizens rights, so is voting, and BOTH should be implemented "without wahala".

We should demand MORE of our government, not less.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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*** I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"*** Prof. Bolaji Aluko

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Greetings Doc!,

Ehn, I don't have to travel to Nigeria to state my views.... I hope this yeyeness is tossed out. Heck, if the Nigerian personnel abroad 

cannot handle the issuing of passports without wahala, I doubt if they can handle the so-called "diaspora voting". This is just a total

waste of time. Then again.....

Happy New Year!

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Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

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Prof,I have just sent you a mail on Resource Control which is more important than another  money-wasting Commission except if it is funded by Non-Resident Nigerians.

I agree with you in toto sir.The FG wants to do everything ,therefore it has to be looking for money.

The principle of SUBSIDIARITY which both you and I agree must be institutionalised demands that we have  Ethnic Nationalities establishing Diaspora Bonds if  why,what,how and when have been agreed with all stakeholders,Residents and non-Residents.

May your fingers never get tired on the keyboard in the service of mama Nigeria o.iw no subsidiarity,no federalism  

 

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Dipo Eniola:

Your observation below is trite, jejune and puerile:  what does the information about no light in New York building and its bad maintenance have to do with Diaspora vote?  Is the Diaspora ONLY the United States?    Or  just New York?

There are 190 countries in the world, and maybe 120 Embassies and High Commissions.  If the Diaspora Vote is approved, and a condition is tacked on that only those countries whose Embassies can have lighting and have good maintenance can their Non-Resident Nigerians vote abroad, I am willing to live with that.  Maybe that will encourage the Diasporans in the US to contribute to paying for the lighting and maintaining the building?  I will be willing to contribute, will you?

So I just don't see the connection here, I am sorry.  In any case, will that situation in New York last FOREVER?

Bolaji Aluko

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Prince Adey:

Just to add to your concern, for more than two weeks last year, it was reported that the Nigeria House in New York was in darkness. Why? Because the light bill was NOT paid. The inside of the building itself is nothing to write home about in terms of maintenance/upkeep.

Happy New Year to you. Regards to your family.

The Oha 1

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Greetings Doc!,

Ehn, I don't have to travel to Nigeria to state my views.... I hope this yeyeness is tossed out. Heck, if the Nigerian personnel abroad 

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Happy New Year!

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The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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GIW:

Thanks for your thoughts.

I have long supported resource control - and the principle of subsidiarity and cooperative federalism - but I also support local capacity,  responsibility and accountability, which are sorely lacking in Nigeria.  But between the cup and the lip - between now and then - a lot can still slip, so we MUST be very careful how we go about it, lest in the interregnum THE PEOPLE suffer even more than they are doing now.

I lived in the South-South for five years, and I know of what I write.  For some people, "Resource Control" means "Leave us to chop our money...after all, it is ours!"

As to mobilizing for Resource Control, that train too has left the station, and it will be obtained sooner rather than later.  There are louder voices than myself in that arena.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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Prof,I have just sent you a mail on Resource Control which is more important than another  money-wasting Commission except if it is funded by Non-Resident Nigerians.

I agree with you in toto sir.The FG wants to do everything ,therefore it has to be looking for money.

The principle of SUBSIDIARITY which both you and I agree must be institutionalised demands that we have  Ethnic Nationalities establishing Diaspora Bonds if  why,what,how and when have been agreed with all stakeholders,Residents and non-Residents.

May your fingers never get tired on the keyboard in the service of mama Nigeria o.iw no subsidiarity,no federalism  

 

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[afis 'Deinde]

"The folks we are looking to borrow from are not known for emotionalism.".......Pastor Attueyi.

Yep, you got jokes!

Ok o, now it's as crystal clear as Sprite.
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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Afis:

Joe Attueyi is right:  traditional investors do not do so out of emotionalism, but out a simple calculation:  "I am looking for where my MONEY can earn the most ADDITIONAL money (return on investment ROI), and by the way, I also understand that my INVESTMENT will do good to the DEVELOPMENT of the country."   A citizen investing in a Diaspora bond does so through a GUIDED emotionalism:  "I am looking for a good way to develop my country, and I understand that one way is a DiaSPORA BOND. and by the way, I can make SOME money, some ROI,  doing so."

At some both, both sets of investors decide on WHETHER to invest at all, and at what quantum of money to invest, based on certain information (prospectus) published.  When the Diaspora citizen adds the interest on capital and socio-emotional interest he derives from the investment, it might be far more than the simple capital interest he makes from a non-emotional investment.

It must not be mandated, hence I do not wish to link a Diaspora Bond to a Diaspora Vote.  There should be no quid-quo-pro here.

Bolaji Aluko

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:21 PM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

"The folks we are looking to borrow from are not known for emotionalism.".......Pastor Attueyi.

Yep, you got jokes!

Ok o, now it's as crystal clear as Sprite.
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[ishola williams]

Prof,I have been on the side of those who say that for voting and representation,non-resident Nigerians must do something.What that something is what the SSA to GMB  must find out by engaging the Non Residents through Nigerian Missions abroad .The consensu view will determine what that view.

Chief fron Buenos Aires has suggested USD 100 per year which may be used to maintain our embassies abroad.It is good that did not dismiss the concern about our embassies abroad where there is also corrupt practices at home.Having a special Account abroad for Staff compensation , maintenance of our embassies and costs of voting abroad.All this  will go a long way to improve our image.The attitude of the Staff in delivering services and management of funds is another issue.No regime has ever bothered to look at the issue of accountability of embassies neither is there any public report on their value for morning.The main reason is that every regime uses the Missions to siphon fund abroad for illegitimate andmostly illegal expenses.

 Please again convince the SSA to follow up with working out  the mechanics and the mechanism for operations and management of this Foreign TSA and the non-residents.engagement.iw 

Prof JUI in Atlanta has come up with need to file taxes at home for 3 years to vote whereever  you are.

Please get the SSA to do her homework if she has not done that already.

At the end of the day,those who really interested will be ready to do what is needful to vote and impact on the country for further good.iw

 

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On Thursday, January 19, 2017 2:30 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dipo Eniola:

Your observation below is trite, jejune and puerile:  what does the information about no light in New York building and its bad maintenance have to do with Diaspora vote?  Is the Diaspora ONLY the United States?    Or  just New York?

There are 190 countries in the world, and maybe 120 Embassies and High Commissions.  If the Diaspora Vote is approved, and a condition is tacked on that only those countries whose Embassies can have lighting and have good maintenance can their Non-Resident Nigerians vote abroad, I am willing to live with that.  Maybe that will encourage the Diasporans in the US to contribute to paying for the lighting and maintaining the building?  I will be willing to contribute, will you?

So I just don't see the connection here, I am sorry.  In any case, will that situation in New York last FOREVER?

Bolaji Aluko

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:12 PM, DIPO ENIOLA <dipoe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Prince Adey:

Just to add to your concern, for more than two weeks last year, it was reported that the Nigeria House in New York was in darkness. Why? Because the light bill was NOT paid. The inside of the building itself is nothing to write home about in terms of maintenance/upkeep.

Happy New Year to you. Regards to your family.

The Oha 1

Ahu Nze ebie Okwu

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*** I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"*** Prof. Bolaji Aluko

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Greetings Doc!,

Ehn, I don't have to travel to Nigeria to state my views.... I hope this yeyeness is tossed out. Heck, if the Nigerian personnel abroad 

cannot handle the issuing of passports without wahala, I doubt if they can handle the so-called "diaspora voting". This is just a total

waste of time. Then again.....

Happy New Year!

Adey

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Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Adey:

Mine is not a hope/faith in the Nigerian government, but in the Nigerian people to ultimately get our government(s) to do the right things, both at home and abroad.  We must remain engaged politicially;  we must organize, not agonize.

Honestly, Yes We Can, but a defeatist attitude from Diasporans, especially from those of you/us in the USA, is not helpful.  Some are skeptical, others are cynical - and some, of the ilk of the ghost Nebukadnezzer Adiele etcheram ad nauseum,with their Sanballatic nature  - are outrightly atrocious for their own ethno-political reasons - but the Nigerian people should not be deterred.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Adey <ade...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Doc,

Kudos for your renowned hope/faith in the Naija government....

As for me, I cannot expect an organization that struggles with simple/basic services to take care of important matters.

Adey

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Adey:

First, Happy New Year.

Secondly, I am NOT asking you to go to Nigeria to state your views.   You can even HURL your views CYBERNETICALLY from there in California! But those Diasporans who go to Nigeria live-and-personal to state and lobby - and even sue -  for  their views have a little upper hand, here, dont you think?

Thirdly, because there is "passport wahala" in Embassies abroad, are you asking that passports abroad no longer be issued?  We should be asking for improvement in passport issuance improvement, not cessation.  Similarly Diaspora vote:  if passports are citizens rights, so is voting, and BOTH should be implemented "without wahala".

We should demand MORE of our government, not less.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Adey <ade...@yahoo.com> wrote:

*** I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"*** Prof. Bolaji Aluko

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Greetings Doc!,

Ehn, I don't have to travel to Nigeria to state my views.... I hope this yeyeness is tossed out. Heck, if the Nigerian personnel abroad 

cannot handle the issuing of passports without wahala, I doubt if they can handle the so-called "diaspora voting". This is just a total

waste of time. Then again.....

Happy New Year!

Adey

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Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

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[Abraham Madu]

Alas 4:30 said :"Dead die"

Which mean dead and die and cannot ever rise again.

Therefore, Nigeria government under the leadership of Buhari-APC administration is dead die, HO! HA!

Ya kpọtụba!

Ya gazie.

Ụmụ nne Abrahamụọgụ Aṅụsịobi Madụ.

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:04 PM, "Philip Achusim eze...@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Diaspora still don't know how to do business in Nigeria. They sued in court waiting for the judges to rule in their favor? Remember that several judges were caught with $dollars bribed to them, and none was traced to the Diaspora. If Diaspora want the judges in their corner, dollars speak louder than anything else. 

You lobby the legislature by contributing handsomely to their campaign war chests. How many legislators did the Diaspora bribe to vote in favor of the Diaspora voting initiative? Diaspora folks are known for dogon trenchi and passionate debates. But those do not fly in Nigeria. Show me the money is the game and Diaspora folks have to learn about the winning strategies in Nigeria. 

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim 

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On Thursday, January 19, 2017, 12:32 PM, Mobolaji Aluko alu...@gmail.com [NigerianID] <NigerianI...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Dipo Eniola et. al:

The train for the Diaspora Voting initiative has moved out of the train station, and is hurtling towards its destination.  When it will get there, I do not know, but it is firmly on the rails.

When the lobbying - including the successfully-concluded court case brought by a few of us Diasporans, skepticism and all  - for the Diaspora Vote was going on, there was NO anti-Diaspora-voting lobby from the Diaspora inside Nigeria.  Opposition from the Diaspora was confined to Cyberspace - just as what we are having now -  while some National Legislators who were in opposition have been won over by more affable colleagues. I simply cannot understand how a Diaspora Nigerian will go to Nigeria and say "Please don't give me the power to vote"

It would be absurd.

We can walk and chew at the same time.  We can the Diaspora vote as well as ensure the integrity of the voting process in Nigeria.  It is simple technology, not rocket science.  Where there is a will, there is a way....and I have run out of cliches.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 3:22 PM, 'DIPO ENIOLA' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

I could not agree more with you. This has been my position since this idea of Diaspora voting moved into high gear. You desperately want to participate in the Nigerian political process, then go over there. The government should stop considering the diaspora voting nonsense and continue to focus on ensuring the integrity of the Nigerian electoral system/process.

The Oha1

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Joe,

 

I wondered why you think this nonentity has brains, he is only coming out to utter the inarticulate gobbling because the chickens have come home to roost. The blood of those killed at the Ogun-axis rest, not only on the Fulani herdsmen but on the heads of those on this forum and beyond that have always known the truth but sought to politicise the issue. When the herdsmen, majority of whom are non-Nigerians were killing and pillaging innocent Nigerians, all the likes of Afis  could see and delighted in was the “inyamiris” being slaughtered. Even those who questioned the mere detention, for the purpose of ascertaining the identity and mission down South, remained mute.  The herdsmen have always plied their trade in Nigeria with few skirmishes here and there, these days, not a single passes without hearing of well planned and executed killings of innocent people trying to survive just as those that have seemingly been licensed to massacre them.  The blood of these innocent people will continue to rest on those who have, and continues to aid their killer directly or indirectly.

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[Wilson Iguade]

OJ says "Joe, I wondered why you think this nonentity has brains, ..."

Response: Joe Attueyi, FAKE ass pastor, has no "brain", he attended a 3rd world university, nothing close to Leicester University, so I expect Joe Attueyi to make brainless statements. 

Stay tuned! Iguade

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[Afis Deinde]

I just saw John Ebohon's written exam and qualifier, that makes him an official dunce of the New Year.

You don't understand how real life politics work, you come here and throw done your Idiotic no-brainers, you and your "elite" group. 

Except for a few professors here and some few others, I see all you Jokers as Comedians trying out at an amateur hour.

John Ebohon, can you point us in the direction of your important essays that have moved the Nigerian govt?

Ooooogbadun.

You throw few lines of Idiocy, clear your conscience and go back to your normal everyday routine in London.

Stop yakking about "blood on head", you this moron.

Afis did not cause the Naija problem, he's a refugee like you. 

You this moron, if blood is going to chase anyone, it would start with you and your PDP henchmen since 1999.

I have no hand in Ikemefuna's demise, I just tell our people what to expect, how it is coming done and who it is going to affect.

I warned my people about Buhari, you this Ogogoro brain-Ebohon.

I told them his is an Islamist, and will always be an Islamist.

I am not a leader of the Yoruba, I don't vote in Nigeria, I am not a politician. I am just a little man living in USA, eating amela and good ewedu (imported). 

I can only support what my people thought was good for them. So I support Asiwaju Tinubu, and if majority keep supporting, Afis will stay the course like a good Odua Soldier.

Your dumb head cannot fathom the simple facts of that equations......that eventually it is NOT my call? 

That the experience seizes to be yours and mine the moment we left the Borders-Nigeriana. Those who live Nigeria say they are half fine and "God is in control", with thousands of churches littering every neighborhood.

You can't argue with Ignorance, not yet.

John Ebohon, stop your naive and dumb approach to political commentaries. 

I know politics more than you ever would learn at this your twilight hours. 

I am a practical guy and I strongly believe without "boots on the ground"........You can't change Nigeria sitting your ass in Diaspora. 

Ebohon, Go home and do something, if you feel like it.

I don't feel it. 

I have to be moved to action by forces within and without, those forces tell me our people are not ready for my kind of leadership. There are many forces reconciling as we speak, in Yorubaland, that's a good pointer.

The spirits haven't moved me yet. When I feel it, I will participate on the sides I personally favor.

Ebohon, Have a nice Idiocy-less weekend.

Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[maxim...@yahoo.com]

"... a Bond comes with specification for what projects - usually two or three - that the Government would use it for ..."

It will be interesting to see what percentage of scripts are followed by the looting demon parasite locusts who call themselves leaders in Nigeria.

When they present a script (a plan with a budget) for 2 million naira and end up using it to filch 200 million naira with nothing to show for the 2 million naira project (as is their usual business), what do Nigerians have in place to protect their hard earned weekly wages in diaspora from being treated the same way? What recourse do Nigerians at home and diasporans have, after they loot their money and use the $300 million to steal $30 billion from Nigeria as they always do, leaving desolation and more desperation and hopelessness? 

If they have repeatedly taken imf, paris club and world bank loans and looted it that way since shagari, with those powerful institutions not being able to do anything about it (aside from punishing the 99.999% of Nigerians who had nothing to do with it, with rising food and other prices, joblessness and privation), how would ordinary diasporans have the resources or time out of their weekly wages to do anything about these demon parasites, who are still the same people, and their clones, in place?

But it is not just a question of "trust." That sounds like a snake oil salesman, because statements on paper alone have never been, and cannot be, any guarantee in Nigeria as currently constituted. On the other hand, papers have morphed into their main tool for looting. Anyone trusting a locust not to eat up the plant should have their head examined.

These demon parasites have a system for looting in place, and we want to be made to believe the system will behave differently for the diaspora money? The mmm scheme should tell Nigerians in diaspora that Nigeria as currently constituted, is choked with false belief in "miracles" that end up being destruction and desolation, due to the designed poverty that the demon parasite locusts have created in the country. 

And if anyone is offended by the name they are called, they should show what is inaccurate about the nomenclature as a descriptive for their behavior. 

Those who have ears ...

O.E.

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Stale news report.

http://mobile.reuters.com/arti cle/idUSKBN1512M4

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[Wilson Iguade]

This diaspora Bond discussion sef ASSUMES that Diasporans "support" more government projects WHEN almost all Diasporans believe that Govt has not performed in the past given past appropriations (budgets approved) for projects. 

My point, I believe that Diasporans are saying CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDINGS, this would reduce the need for continued debt burdens on the country. Just because it is diaspora Bond does not mean it is not DEBT. Whether Diaspora Bond or not, cut government spendings, and keep CUTTING GOVERNMENT SPENDINGS to free the shackles of govt (BAD governance) off the backs of productive Nigerians. 

The educated class in Nigeria have indeed failed the country, they only understands SELL govt assets and LOAN money in their management style. Wow! Talk about THIRD WORLD Education!

Stay tuned! Iguade

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