API limits for TargetingIdeaService

[karthick r]

Hello,

My job is to get the search volume (STATS) for 10,000 keywords and pass in these 10,000 keywords to generate keyword ideas (IDEAS).  I have a question on the API limits of the TargetingIdeaService. 

https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/limits#targeting-idea 

Looking at this link, I understand that I can send 700 keywords to get the stats and 200 keywords per request to get keyword ideas. If this is the limit, then I need ~ 15 API calls to get the STATS and 50 API calls to get the IDEAS. Does these 65 calls translate to 65 Operations ? 

In this page https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet it says 

Operation: get Count: 100 targeting ideas Service: TargetingIdeaService

1

How do I calculate the number of operations ?

Also, are there restrictions on the number of keywords returned in the keyword ideas response ? If API returns 2000 keyword ideas for a batch of 200, I will have to read it in batches of 700. Does reading through the response count towards the operations ?

I already have the code to retry after the recommended time in case of rate limit errors. 

I am trying to find out the optimal payload size for my STATS and IDEAS reports. 

Thanks!

Karthick

[Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)]

Hi Karthick,

Each of the calls will count as one operation. From the rate limits guide (highlighting is mine):

A get operation is counted as one operation, regardless of the number of results objects.

When you mentioned "reading through the response", do you mean issuing a get request for each page of responses? If so, then each of those get requests will count as one operation as well.

Thanks,

Josh, AdWords API Team

[karthick r]

Hello Josh,  

Keyword Stats seems straightforward. 

Consider the following scenarios : 

Keyword Stats Request config - 

Num of seed keywords: 700

Page size : 700

Assuming that, I send in 700 Seed keywords in one stats request and if I get back 700 keywords with the stats. That's counted as one operation.

Keyword ideas Request config - 

Seed keywords per keyword ideas request: 200

Page size: 800

Assuming that, I send in 200 Seed keywords in one ideas request and if I get back 1600 keywords in total. I need to execute 2 get calls to read through the results as I have defined the Page size as 800 (which is the max limit). That's counted as two operations.  

Is my understanding right ? 

From the rate sheet 

Operation: get

Count: 100 targeting ideas

Service: TargetingIdeaService 1

What does the count mean here ?

Thanks!

Karthick

[Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)]

Hi Karthick,

Yes, what you've described below is correct. The count in the snippet you provided is the count of results (TargetingIdeaPage.entries) from a single TargetingIdeaService.get call. It's there as an example and to emphasize that regardless of the number of entries in a single TargetingIdeaPage, that one request still only counts as one operation.

Thanks,

Josh, AdWords API Team

[Thiru K]

Hi Josh,

Considering the above idea, we have increased the number of seed per request to 200 for Keyword ideas and page size as 800. But when I increase seeds above 100, the ideas output is reducing. PFB the test results.

Below is the results and counts

Run 1:

Page size = 800

No. of seeds per request = 100

Keyword idea count = 4030

 

Run 2 & 3:

Page size = 800  & 500

No. of seeds per request = 150

Keyword idea count = 2743

 

Run 4:

Page size = 800

No. of seeds per request = 200

Keyword idea count = 2023

On analyzing the results of Keyword ideas, there were difference in number of keyword ideas generated. Could you please check why there is a reduction?

Thanks,

Thiru.. 

[Google Ads API Forum Advisor Prod]

Hi Thiru,

Thank you for posting your concern.

So that I can further investigate the issue, could you provide the complete SOAP request and response logs for each execution (Run 1 - 4) via Reply privately to author?

Regards,
Hiroyuki
Google Ads API Team

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[Thiru K]

Hi Hiroyuki,

I have replied privately with the required data. Please check and provide your suggestions.

Thanks,

Thiru..

[Google Ads API Forum Advisor Prod]

Hi Thiru,

We didn't receive your private message. Can you please provide them again?

Thanks,
Anthony
Google Ads API Team

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[Thiru K]

Hi Anthony,

I have replied privately with logs. Can you please confirm if you have recieved?

Thanks,

Thiru..

[Google Ads API Forum Advisor Prod]

Hi Thiru,

Unfortunately, we still didn't receive them. Please click the dropdown then select the reply privately to author. If this option still doesn't work, I'd suggest opening a new thread and seeing if that makes replying privately work.

Regards,

[Thiru K]

Hi Anthony,

I have created a new thread as suggested and will upload logs once I got a reply.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/adwords-api/d7Q7M1_ZbLU/GYokM-eOCQAJ

Thanks,

Thiru..

[Google Ads API Forum Advisor Prod]

Hi Thiru,

Please share your SOAP logs through reply privately to author so I can take a closer look?

Thanks,

Anthony
Google Ads API Team

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[Thiru K]

Hi,

I have sent the requested info in reply privately. can you please confirm if you have received. Once I sent I am seeing its message sent alert. If you are still not able to see request to share your mail id where i can send you the details.

Thanks,

Thiru..