'Did Shankara establish Shan-matas' (six schools)? - A Kannada article

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V Subrahmanian

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Jun 30, 2021, 6:45:26 AM6/30/21
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ಶಂಕರರು ಷಣ್ಮತ ಸ್ಥಾಪಕರೆ?


Soon the English version will be released.

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On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 5:27 PM Aravind M <aravin...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
There is a nama in shankara ashtotaram as "shanmata stapana
Acharyaya namaha"....

Yes, this is known.  The method adopted in the article is: from the inputs available in the Prasthana traya bhashya one can see that Shankara is not averse to the idea of shan-mata-s.  

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Bhaskar YR

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Jun 30, 2021, 12:35:39 PM6/30/21
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Hare Krishna

 

Normally ashtOttara-s would carry lot of eulogy we should not interpret it literally. For example, nAma-s like varNashrama pratishtAtre namaH, advaita sthApanAchAryaya namaH etc.  

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

 

 

 

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Bhaskar YR

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Hare Krishna

 

I really doubt if someone says both shaNmata (six schools of thought) sthApana and mere advising the worship of shaNdevata-s as parabrahma svarUpa are one and the same. And also, if shaNmata sthApanAchArya propagating only paNchAyatana pooja excluding skanda is something to be pondered.   

sunil bhattacharjya

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Dear friends,

Please permit to draw your attention to the fact that at one time the Manu Smriti had a verse, which said that the Brahmins would worship Lord Shiva, the Kshatriyas would worship Lord Vishnu, the Vaishyas would worship Lord Brahmaa and the Shudras would worship Lord Ganapati. Of course all are shudras at birth, so in a way everybody has to worship Lord Ganesha, whose worship is mandatory before all woships. Even in a Purana Lord Krishna was also talking about the Panchayatana, where Lord Surya is worshipped for health and Goddeee Uma is worshipped for Mukti. Further, there is provision for the householders who wanted favours of other Lakshmi, they have to worship Lord Vishnu. Adi Shankara only implemented the Shanmata.

Unfortunately the verse got dropped from the Manu Smriti in  course of time, most probably the Vaishnava school did not agree to this line in the Manu Smriti.  However the relevent verses from the Purana are still there.

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V Subrahmanian

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The Shanmata and Panchayatana puja are two completely different concepts.  The devotees of each of the deities Shiva, Vishnu, etc. by holding their ishTa devata-s to be Para Brahman, that is Jagat Karanam, will attain mukti. Also, the Six deities is only an upalakshana, for there is simply no limit to the number of entities that can be held to be Para Brahman.  For example, this mantra in the Mundakopanishat  - 

स वेदैतत्परमं ब्रह्म धाम यत्र विश्वं निहितं भाति शुभ्रम् ।

उपासते पुरुषं ये ह्यकामास्ते शुक्रमेतदतिवर्तन्ति धीराः ॥ १ ॥


says that whoever, without desiring iha para bhoga but desiring only moksha, worships an Aparoksha Jnani as Para Brahman in which this entire creation is inherent, such a one attains moksha.  Shankara, in the previous mantra where the aparoksha jnani is stated to be worshiped for bhoga, has mentioned that the Jnani is to be worshiped by paada prakshanlana, pradakshina, etc. So, a Jnani, a Guru, can also be worshiped as Para Brahman.  Swami Brahmananda, a direct disciple of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, advised a disciple to meditate on Ramakrishna saying that the Jnani Guru is 'sarva devata svarupa.'


Also, the Panchadashi of Vidyaranya gives a list of several entities like Ashwattha tree, Garike (doorva grass), Mylara, etc. etc. and also in one instance a Buffalo, that are held to be Ishwara/upasya.  Thus, there is no limit at all for a mumukshu to hold this or that vastu as Para Brahman.


There is this Purana statement too: 


The Uttara Khanda of Padma Purana has a beautiful reference to Panchayatana puja. Bhagavan Krishna says the following to Satyabhama in the 88th Chapter :

शैवाः सौराश्च गाणेशा वैष्णवाः शक्तिपूजकाः

मामेव प्राप्नुवंतीह वर्षांभः सागरं यथा ४३

एकोऽहं पंचधा जातः क्रीडयन्नामभिः किल

देवदत्तो यथा कश्चित्पुत्राद्याह्वाननामभिः ४४ ( 6.88.43-44)

Bhagvan says to Satyabhama , "As rain-water reaches the ocean, so also, the worshippers of Shiva,Surya,Ganesha,Vishnu and Shakti attain me. I am one, yet manifest in five ways. As one Devadatta is addressed in many ways, so also, I am called variously owing to my play. "

 

 

The first line directly and the second line implicitly form the basis for this shloka of Sri Madhusudana Saraswati in his Gudhartha dipika commentary to the Bh.Gita:                           शैवाः सौराश्च गाणेशा वैष्णवाः शक्तिपूजकाः।

भवन्ति यन्मयाः सर्वे सोहमस्मि परः शिवः।।3

I am that Supreme Consciousness that Shaivas, Sauras, Gaaneshas, Vaishnavas and Shaakta hold to be their upasya devataa. It is well known that the Ishta Devataa of Madhusudana Saraswati is Balakrishna. So, we have the authority of the Padma purana that the five sects such as Shaiva, Saura, etc. are authentic. I had once shown the Narada purana reference too to a similar mention.

 

     The Panchayatana Puja is also an upalakshana.  In Tamil Nadu there are people who keep a Vel (shakti aayudha) of Skanda in the Panchayatana Puja and thereby include Skanda.  Thus there is no strict limits in these matters. Shankara has said in the Sutra Bhashya:     Brahman/Ishwara can and does take on a form to bless/help an aspirant in his sadhana.:

स्यात्परमेश्वरस्यापि इच्छावशात् मायामयं रूपं साधकानुग्रहार्थम् । (1.1.vii.20) (Ishwara, out of compassion, takes on, by His Maya, a form to grace the spiritual aspirant.)

Thus, for Shankara the upasya murti for a mumukshu can be anything that Ishwara takes out of Maya, to bless the mumukshu.  One cannot force a mumukshu to meditate upon one deity only. Loko bhinna ruchih. 

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subbu 

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

 

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suresh srinivasamurthy

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Namaste,

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Thus, for Shankara the upasya murti for a mumukshu can be anything that Ishwara takes out of Maya, to bless the mumukshu.  One cannot force a mumukshu to meditate upon one deity only. Loko bhinna ruchih. 
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IMHO the upAsya murti can be different. But entire creation / universe including oneself must be "seen" in that and vice versa too. The meditator/upAsaka is not external to the upAsya/Ishwara/Brahman. This alone makes Vedic/Hindu view different from other non-vedic / Abrahamic (A-brAhmic ? ) views 

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Suresh

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On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 9:34 PM suresh srinivasamurthy <sure...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Namaste,

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Thus, for Shankara the upasya murti for a mumukshu can be anything that Ishwara takes out of Maya, to bless the mumukshu.  One cannot force a mumukshu to meditate upon one deity only. Loko bhinna ruchih. 
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IMHO the upAsya murti can be different. But entire creation / universe including oneself must be "seen" in that and vice versa too. The meditator/upAsaka is not external to the upAsya/Ishwara/Brahman. This alone makes Vedic/Hindu view different from other non-vedic / Abrahamic (A-brAhmic ? ) views 

Yes, this is true.  The murti the upasaka chooses is looked upon by him as the Vishwamurti, encompassing the entire creation.  The Vibhuti Yoga of the Bh.G.10th chapter offers us a lot of choices. This, again, is differently looked upon by diff schools and all would not be in agreement. 

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subbu 

Regards,
Suresh

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