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Late Prof. S.K. Ramachandra Rao was heading the Kalpataru Samshodhana foundation here in Sringeri Mutt, Bangalore an ardent disciple of HH Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati interestingly writes in his preface to “ Shankara and Adhyasa Bhashya” as follows :
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Shankara is one of the most misunderstood thinkers of India. Later writers claiming to be his followers have misrepresented him and his critics have damned him relying almost entirely on these later writers. Padmapaada’s panchapaadika (and glosses over it), vimuktaatman’s Ishtasiddhi and to an extent Vaachaspati’s Bhaamati have been responsible for the presentation of Shankara’s thought which was attacked by Raamaanuja and Maadhva. Had these Acharyaas confined their attention to shankara’s own writings, much of the controversy would certainly have been avoided, and sectarian differences would greatly have been minimized.
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This is his very first para in that preface. And in the fourth para after acknowledging and appreciating the contributions of later vyAkhyAnakara-s, he observes as follows :
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Many Ideas (like mUlaavidyA, vivarta, mahAvAkya, six fold pramaana, avidyA lesha) which are now major details of Advaita cannot be found in shankara’s own writings. They belong to the development of thought that is post shankara. There is a need to examine whether these ideas were necessary to explain some basic conceptions of shankara or they have served to camouflage and distort the original thought. Did shankara really dismiss the world as an illusion?? We do not find evidence for it in vedanta sutra bhaashya at any rate.
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And now, no need to rush the socalled traditional opinion on SKR and his observation, as one can easily expect pattern of those thoughts from the desk of traditionalists 😊
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bhaskar
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Hare Krishna
This is for the records sake for others who want to know more about Sri SK Rao.
Though he appreciated Sri SSS and his efforts he openly said some of his view points not acceptable to him. Sri SKR Rao has not studied bhAshya under Sri SSS and his guru was mahamahOpaadhyaaya Sri Paalakkaad Narayana Shastri, he wrote books like shaarada peetada maanikya on HH Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati mahAswaminaH and openly said he is the shishya of Jagadguru Sri Chandrashekhara bhArati mahAswaminaH and he never ever identified himself and promoted anything in favour of mAdhva lineage, he was directly appointed by Srinigeri Dakshinaamnaya peeta to do more saMshOdhana on shankara’s works ( as I said he was heading Kalpataru Samshodhana Kendra here in Bangalore Sringeri Branch). He has studied all the available material (both in manuscripts and printed version) when he was doing the research on Consciousness in Advaita under the auspices of Sri Abhinava Vidyaateertha swamigal Scientific Research Academy, Madras (now Chennai). And he himself said he had an occasion to go through once again all the major and minor works in Advaita both printed and in manuscript and critically examine their value in understanding shankara. So, he was not just the blind follower of Sri SSS to label him as ‘influenced by Sri SSS. Ofcourse he was not a dump wit to blindly follow whatever said by Sri SSS, he himself was a scholar a veracious reader and critical observer. So it is totally irrelevant here to highlight he is mAdhva (!!??) he is influenced by Sri SSS etc. etc. just because he is rising voice against later vyAkhyAnakAra-s.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
Bhaskar YR
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………वा अन्यस्मिन्वा फले अकल्पिते पुरुषा न प्रवर्तेरन्निति मोक्षः फलं कल्प्यते श्रुतार्थापत्त्या, यथा विश्वजिति ; ननु एवं सति कथमुच्यते, विश्वजिन्न्यायो न
(If not fruit is specified, one will not be enthused to perform an action and hence the fruit of Moksha is presumed, through the shrutyarthaapatti, just like in the Vishvajit yaga, even though a specific fruit is not explicitly stated, the svarga fruit is presumed)
यथाप्रसिद्धितस्तु विधिप्रतिषेधशास्त्रश्रवणान्यथानुपपत्त्या
तद्विधानान्यथानुपपत्तेश्च नित्यानुष्ठानायासदुःखं पूर्वकृतदुरितफलम् इति अर्थापत्तिकल्पना च अनुपपन्ना, एवं विधानान्यथानुपपत्तेः
(The expression 'anyathAnupapattyaa..kalpyate' means: arthApatti pramana.)
Anupalabdhi pramana:
………कस्मात् ? यदस्ति, तद्विशेषतो गृह्यते ; यथा घटादि । यन्नास्ति, तन्नोपलभ्यते ; यथा शशविषाणादि । तथा नोपलभ्यते ब्रह्म ; तस्माद्विशेषतः अग्रहणान्नास्तीति । तन्न, आकाशादिकारणत्वाद्ब्रह्मणः ।
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There is a valley of difference in saying not used the word and not used the idea (as propagated by later vyAkhyAnakAra-s).
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There is a valley of difference in saying not used the word and not used the idea (as propagated by later vyAkhyAnakAra-s).
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I just said there is difference between saying : using the word and using the idea. SKR says hard to see the ‘ideas’ he is not saying not used the words but ofcourse barring the word mUlAvidyA 😊
And with regard to ‘difference’ between vyAkhyAna (by post shankarites) and mUla….are we not doing this exercise all these days!!?? 😊
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I just said there is difference between saying : using the word and using the idea. SKR says hard to see the ‘ideas’ he is not saying not used the words but ofcourse barring the word mUlAvidyA 😊
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I had got him right and that's why I showed a sample of instances where Shankara has employed the vivarta idea, as is understood popularly.
Ø You are welcome to have your opinion prabhuji. Who am I to say anything. I was just trying to say the difference between the usage of terms like idea and name. sometimes we call mischievous kids as ‘huccha’ (mad) and patients at lunatic asylums also will be addressed as huccharu, contextual usage of same ‘terms/names’ would give different ‘ideas’ it does not mean using the same names would invariably conveys the same ideas (like in the words avidyA and mAya). If you think both are one and the same that is also OK with me 😊 And it can be noted I myself quoted all these quotes when I was trying to say kArya-kAraNa ananyatvaM and how brahman is abhinnanimittopadAna kAraNaM for the jagat when we take the srushti into consideration. Anyway with this I rest my case.