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AYUSH | Adivasi Yuva Shakti
Apr 20, 2014, 8:36:44 AM4/20/14
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On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM, sagarpatil8953 <sagarpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
MitranoDhangar he adhipasun apalya ST category madhye hote bt tyana tyanche adhikar milalele naitSo dhangar samajala tyache adhikar savidhanat namud kelyamule milale pahijet...Ani competition chi goshta karaltar kahi pharak padnar naiJyachyakade talent ahe toch pudhe jael...Sent from Samsung Mobile
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Apr 20, 2014, 9:54:48 AM4/20/14
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Study karw ajun samajacha.. tumhi jat dharma yancha vichar kela nahi ajun .. wachan kara barobar samjel.. st madhe kon kontya jati samavishta ahet tya... ani st samajala arakshanachi garaj ka ahe .. talent var gele tar atiuttam pan similarity tashi prastapit honar nahi..
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भुन्कनारे भूंकत असतात....पण दुर्लक्ष करूनही चालणार नाही....सावध राहावे लागेल.....
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चेतन Chetan
Apr 21, 2014, 1:41:58 PM4/21/14
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आदिवासी आणि धनगर या शब्दांवरूनच काय तो बोध व्हायला हवा .
आपले संविधान आदिवासी म्हणून काय गोष्टी बघते आणि कोण त्यामध्ये येऊ शकते ते खालील links वरून कळेल
http://www.tribal.nic.in/Content/DefinitionpRrofiles.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Scheduled_Tribes
Article 342 Scheduled Tribes
The President may, with respect to any State or Union territory, and where it is a state, after consultation with the Governor there of by public notification, specify the tribes or tribal communities or parts of or groups within tribes or tribal communities which shall, for the purposes of this constitution, is deemed to be scheduled tribes in relation to that state or Union Territory, as the case may be.
Parliament may by law include in or exclude from the list of Scheduled tribes specified in a notification issued under clause(1) any tribe or tribal community or part of or group within any tribe or tribal community, but save as aforesaid, a notification issued under the said clause shall not be varied by any subsequent notification.
Thus, the first specification of Scheduled Tribes in relation to a particular State/ Union Territory is by a notified order of the President, after consultation with the State governments concerned. These orders can be modified subsequently only through an Act of Parliament. The above Article also provides for listing of scheduled tribes State/Union Territory wise and not on an all India basis.
The criterion followed for specification of a community, as scheduled tribes are indications of primitive traits, distinctive culture, geographical isolation, shyness of contact with the community at large, and backwardness. This criterion is not spelt out in the Constitution but has become well established. It subsumes the definitions contained in 1931Census, the reports of first Backward Classes Commission 1955, the Advisory Committee (Kalelkar), on Revision of SC/ST lists (Lokur Committee),
1965 and the Joint Committee of Parliament on the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes orders (Amendment) Bill 1967 (Chanda Committee), 1969.
In exercise of the powers conferred by Clause (1) of Article 342 of the Constitution of India, the President, after Consultation with the State Governments concerned have promulgated so far 9 orders specifying the Scheduled Tribes in relation to the state and union territories. Out of these, eight are in operation at present in their original or amended form. One order namely the Constitution (Goa, Daman & Diu) Scheduled Tribes order 1968 has become defunct on account of reorganization of Goa, Daman & Diu in 1987. Under the Goa, Daman & Diu reorganization Act 1987 (18 of 1987) the list of Scheduled Tribes of Goa has been transferred to part XIX of the Schedule to the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Order, 1950 and that of Daman & Diu II of the Schedule of the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) (Union Territories) Order, 1951.
Issue of Scheduled Tribes Certificate - Points to be observed(a) General
Where a person claims to belong to a Scheduled Tribe by birth it should be verified: -
(i) That the person and his parents actually belong to the community claimed;
(ii) That the community is included in the Presidential Order specifying the Scheduled Tribes in relation to the concerned State.
(iii) That the person belongs to that State and to the area within that State in respect of which the community has been scheduled.
(iv) He may profess any religion.
(v) That he should be permanent resident on the date of notification of the Presidential Order applicable in his case.
(vi) person who is temporarily away from his permanent place of adobe at the time of the notification of the Presidential order applicable in his case, say for example to earn a living or seek education, etc can also be regarded as a scheduled tribe, if his tribe has been specified in that order in relation to his state/ union territory. But he cannot be treated as such in relation to the place of his temporary residence notwithstanding the fact that the name of his tribe has been scheduled in respect of that are areain any Presidential Order.
In the case of persons born after the date of notification of the relevant Presidential Order, the place of residence for the purpose of acquiring Scheduled Tribe Status, is the place of permanent abode of their parents at the time of the notification of the presidential order under which they claim to belong to such a tribe.
(b) Scheduled Tribe claims on migration
(i) Where a person migrates from the portion of the state in respect of which his community is scheduled to another part of the same state in respect of which community is not scheduled, he will continue to be deemed to be a member of the Scheduled Tribe, in relation to that State;
(ii) Where a person migrates from one state to another, he can claim to belong to a scheduled tribe, only in relation to the State to which he originally belonged and not in respect of the state to which he has migrated.
(c) Scheduled Tribe claims through marriages
The guiding principle is that no person who was not a Scheduled Tribes by birth will be deemed to be a member of Scheduled Tribe merely because he or she has married a person belonging to a Scheduled Tribe.
Similarly a person who is a member of a schedule tribe would continue to be a member of that scheduled Tribe, even after his or her marriage with a person who does not belong to a Scheduled Tribe.
(d) Issue of Scheduled Tribe Certificates
The candidates belonging to Scheduled Tribes may be issued Scheduled Tribe Certificates, in the prescribed form (Annexure-III) from one of the prescribed authorities in support of their claim.
(e) Punishments for officials issuing Scheduled Tribe Certificates without proper verification
(f) Liberalization of procedure for the issue of Scheduled Tribe certificates to migrants from other States/ Union Territories.
Person belonging to Scheduled Tribes, who have migrated from one State to another for the purpose of employment, education etc. experience great difficulty in obtaining tribe certificate from the State from which they have migrated. In order to remove this difficulty, it has been decided that the prescribed authority of a State government/Union Territory Administration may issue the Scheduled Tribe certificate to a person who has migrated from another state, on the production of the genuine certificate issued to his father/ mothers origin except where the prescribed authority feels that detailed inquiry is necessary through the State of origin before issue of the certificate. The certificate will be issued irrespective of whether the tribe in question is scheduled or not in relation to the State/ Union Territory to which the person has migrated. However, they would not be entitled to ST benefits in the migrated State.
http://www.tribal.nic.in/Content/DefinitionpRrofiles.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_Castes_and_Scheduled_Tribes
Article 342 Scheduled Tribes
The President may, with respect to any State or Union territory, and where it is a state, after consultation with the Governor there of by public notification, specify the tribes or tribal communities or parts of or groups within tribes or tribal communities which shall, for the purposes of this constitution, is deemed to be scheduled tribes in relation to that state or Union Territory, as the case may be.
Parliament may by law include in or exclude from the list of Scheduled tribes specified in a notification issued under clause(1) any tribe or tribal community or part of or group within any tribe or tribal community, but save as aforesaid, a notification issued under the said clause shall not be varied by any subsequent notification.
Thus, the first specification of Scheduled Tribes in relation to a particular State/ Union Territory is by a notified order of the President, after consultation with the State governments concerned. These orders can be modified subsequently only through an Act of Parliament. The above Article also provides for listing of scheduled tribes State/Union Territory wise and not on an all India basis.
The criterion followed for specification of a community, as scheduled tribes are indications of primitive traits, distinctive culture, geographical isolation, shyness of contact with the community at large, and backwardness. This criterion is not spelt out in the Constitution but has become well established. It subsumes the definitions contained in 1931Census, the reports of first Backward Classes Commission 1955, the Advisory Committee (Kalelkar), on Revision of SC/ST lists (Lokur Committee),
1965 and the Joint Committee of Parliament on the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes orders (Amendment) Bill 1967 (Chanda Committee), 1969.
In exercise of the powers conferred by Clause (1) of Article 342 of the Constitution of India, the President, after Consultation with the State Governments concerned have promulgated so far 9 orders specifying the Scheduled Tribes in relation to the state and union territories. Out of these, eight are in operation at present in their original or amended form. One order namely the Constitution (Goa, Daman & Diu) Scheduled Tribes order 1968 has become defunct on account of reorganization of Goa, Daman & Diu in 1987. Under the Goa, Daman & Diu reorganization Act 1987 (18 of 1987) the list of Scheduled Tribes of Goa has been transferred to part XIX of the Schedule to the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Order, 1950 and that of Daman & Diu II of the Schedule of the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) (Union Territories) Order, 1951.
Issue of Scheduled Tribes Certificate - Points to be observed(a) General
Where a person claims to belong to a Scheduled Tribe by birth it should be verified: -
(i) That the person and his parents actually belong to the community claimed;
(ii) That the community is included in the Presidential Order specifying the Scheduled Tribes in relation to the concerned State.
(iii) That the person belongs to that State and to the area within that State in respect of which the community has been scheduled.
(iv) He may profess any religion.
(v) That he should be permanent resident on the date of notification of the Presidential Order applicable in his case.
(vi) person who is temporarily away from his permanent place of adobe at the time of the notification of the Presidential order applicable in his case, say for example to earn a living or seek education, etc can also be regarded as a scheduled tribe, if his tribe has been specified in that order in relation to his state/ union territory. But he cannot be treated as such in relation to the place of his temporary residence notwithstanding the fact that the name of his tribe has been scheduled in respect of that are areain any Presidential Order.
In the case of persons born after the date of notification of the relevant Presidential Order, the place of residence for the purpose of acquiring Scheduled Tribe Status, is the place of permanent abode of their parents at the time of the notification of the presidential order under which they claim to belong to such a tribe.
(b) Scheduled Tribe claims on migration
(i) Where a person migrates from the portion of the state in respect of which his community is scheduled to another part of the same state in respect of which community is not scheduled, he will continue to be deemed to be a member of the Scheduled Tribe, in relation to that State;
(ii) Where a person migrates from one state to another, he can claim to belong to a scheduled tribe, only in relation to the State to which he originally belonged and not in respect of the state to which he has migrated.
(c) Scheduled Tribe claims through marriages
The guiding principle is that no person who was not a Scheduled Tribes by birth will be deemed to be a member of Scheduled Tribe merely because he or she has married a person belonging to a Scheduled Tribe.
Similarly a person who is a member of a schedule tribe would continue to be a member of that scheduled Tribe, even after his or her marriage with a person who does not belong to a Scheduled Tribe.
(d) Issue of Scheduled Tribe Certificates
The candidates belonging to Scheduled Tribes may be issued Scheduled Tribe Certificates, in the prescribed form (Annexure-III) from one of the prescribed authorities in support of their claim.
(e) Punishments for officials issuing Scheduled Tribe Certificates without proper verification
(f) Liberalization of procedure for the issue of Scheduled Tribe certificates to migrants from other States/ Union Territories.
Person belonging to Scheduled Tribes, who have migrated from one State to another for the purpose of employment, education etc. experience great difficulty in obtaining tribe certificate from the State from which they have migrated. In order to remove this difficulty, it has been decided that the prescribed authority of a State government/Union Territory Administration may issue the Scheduled Tribe certificate to a person who has migrated from another state, on the production of the genuine certificate issued to his father/ mothers origin except where the prescribed authority feels that detailed inquiry is necessary through the State of origin before issue of the certificate. The certificate will be issued irrespective of whether the tribe in question is scheduled or not in relation to the State/ Union Territory to which the person has migrated. However, they would not be entitled to ST benefits in the migrated State.
धनगर लोकांनी अगोदर OBC चा दर्जा मिळवला आणि त्यांना ध्यानात आले कि OBC मध्ये open पेक्षा जास्त स्पर्धा आहे म्हणून त्यांनी सर्वात कमी स्पर्धा असलेल्या आदिवासींचा दर्जा मिळवायचे प्रयत्न सुरु केले. यामुळे खरेतर आणखीन एक tension (संकट ) वाढले. आणि आमचे policy makers फक्त आराम करत रहिले. यांना सदैव backfoot वर जायची सवय राहिली आहे. कधीही समाजासाठी आक्रमक राहिले नाही. जेव्हा आक्रमक झाले तेव्हा इतरांनी यांना गुंडाळले (compromise ). सुसरी धारण सारखे उदाहरण आहेच आपल्या समोर.
On 20 April 2014 20:50, The Son of Sahyadri <rajut...@gmail.com> wrote:
भुन्कनारे भूंकत असतात....पण दुर्लक्ष करूनही चालणार नाही....सावध राहावे लागेल.....
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Apr 21, 2014, 2:00:22 PM4/21/14
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It is injustice to the Scheduled Tribes people if they do not get the ST status and benefits if they migrate from their native state.In the present situation how will those adivasi(ST) survive when they are forcefully displaced from their lands without getting any land for their lost land.More than one crore adivasi(ST) population have been displaced since independence according to the government reports.So these one crore adivasis have lost their adivasi status and benefits available for the ST.l
Dalit Adivasi Duniya
Mayaur Vihar Phase-III,
Delhi-110096
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हो नक्कीच . आमच्या ज्ञानात भर पाडण्यात तुमचा हातभार नक्कीच असावा असे आम्हाला वाटते . तुमचे mail मी नियमित वाचत असतो त्यावरून तुमचा आदिवासी सामाजाबद्दलचा अभ्यास दांडगा असावा असे जाणवते. तुमच्या या अनुभवाचा उपयोग आदिवासी तरुणांना मार्गदर्शन करण्यास मोलाचा ठरवा यासाठी आयुशच्या येत्या ४ मे रोजी होणाऱ्या वनभोजन कम चर्चा सत्र ला सहभागी होवून मार्गदर्शन करावे. आपले आदिवासी समाज ,संस्कृती बद्दलचा अभ्यास व अनुभव आम्हा यांचा लाभ आजच्या व अन अनुभवी तरुणांना देण्याची हि सुवर्णसंधी तुम्ही नक्की स्वीकारल हि अपेक्षा. Let us do it together!
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