Lt. General Thomas Cirillo’s Resignation Exposes The Tribal Regime Of President Kiir
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Lt. General Thomas Cirillo’s Resignation Exposes The Tribal Regime Of
President Kiir
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Press Release, SSDF, FEB/19/2017, SSN;
The resignation of Lt. General Thomas Cirillo Swaka (Mogga Lo
Cirillo), the SPLA Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics, sent shock
waves in all directions. The news is still reverberating in all
corners of the Republic of South Sudan. It’s too early to gauge the
full impact of this significant development. The glaring fact is that
the resignation was welcomed by the majority of the South Sudanese
people and probably some of the General’s well-wishers outside the
borders of South Sudan.
Lt. General Thomas Cirillo, is a living hero and a role model to many
Equatorian and South Sudanese officers and soldiers. His resignation
can only encourage more of the same from the real patriots amongst the
armed forces.
The South Sudan Democratic Front (SSDF) applauds and celebrates the
selfless and patriotic decision taken by our renown General by
preferring to be on the side of the people over remaining loyal to an
illegitimate regime that’s permanently infested with corruption and
tribalism.
His brilliant resignation letter has confirmed what we have been
saying all along that the SPLA is not a national army and the
government is implementing a divisive policy aimed at domination and
hegemony of the Jieng tribe over the other ethnicities of South Sudan.
It’s clear that the General took the decision following plenty of
patience and a lot of thought. It was perceived that the General has
been under enormous pressure to quit the government from his community
and the Equatorians on the one hand, and as a result to the mounting
crimes committed by the SPLA and the militias affiliated to it against
the civilian populations, on the other.
The General’s resignation letter has exposed what has been hidden away
from the public regarding the running of the so-called government of
South Sudan. It’s apparent that there is no real institutional work
and those at the top of the regime do not adhere to any procedures or
regulations. They are above the law, and South Sudan is more or less
being run as a Chieftaincy of the Jieng tribe.
The ridiculous attempts to discredit and tarnish the name of Lt.
General Thomas Cirillo will all be despised and ignored. His
reputation would ever remain immaculate and unscathed. These attempts
are cheap and are being propagated by food lovers like Brig. General
Lul Rui Koang, the spokesperson of the SPLA , who is not even a real
General.
Regarding military education, training, courage and integrity, Lt.
General Thomas Cirillo is superior to Kiir, Kuol Manyang Juuk, and
Paul Malong. Of course, there are those with twisted minds who seem to
tolerate commanders who commit atrocities and kill innocent civilians.
Their followers and beneficiaries even call them as brave men and
heroes. Well, ruthlessness and savagery are not bravery and massacring
unarmed civilians, is not heroism. They are criminals.
Perhaps the only field in which the trio could beat Lt. General Thomas
Cirillo without contest – is the field of thievery. Therefore, it was
not a surprise that the names of the trio appeared in the Sentry
report while the name of Mogga Lo Cirillo was nowhere to be found in
it.
In fact, many in his community, who know him very well, have been
worrying that his name may get soiled in the course of serving the
people of South Sudan in a government full of thieves. His departure
is a great relief to his friends, community and the people of South
Sudan.
Even if he decides to do nothing more, he has already done the single
most important thing which is the unveiling of the fact that we
neither have a national army nor an impartial government.
At the time of writing this piece, the social media circulated the
resignation letters of Brig. General, Henry Oyay Nyango, Judge
Advocate General, Director, Military Justice and Col. Khalid Ono Loki,
Judge Advocate, Head, Military Courts.
Now, what would the government say about these resignations? Would the
two military judges be accused of misappropriation of funds to blemish
their reputations? It’s unheard of that judges resigned their jobs in
protest of the absence of the rule of law and widespread impunity in a
government. These are testimonies confirming that matters have reached
the lowest low. The SSDF commends the patriotic move by the two
military judges and encourages others to take similar decisions.
Thomas Cirillo’s departure appears to have the Domino Effect on the
course of events within the SPLA. It’s a game changer and would
certainly not be confined to the military sector but would include
some politicians.
Hence, the SSDF takes this opportunity to appeal to our people in
uniform to desert the SPLA and all the armed forces as they were shown
beyond doubt to be nothing but tribal and oppressive institutions.
As for the politicians, it’s time to abandon the sinking boat of Salva
Kiir and his mentors who are members of the Jieng Council of Elders
(JCE).
Lotole Lo Luri,
Deputy Press Secretary – SSDF
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19 Comments
Abel Magok
February 20, 2017 at 3:11 pm
I am wondering whether Gen. Thomas Cirillo who recently resigned
from the SPLA has connection with this tribal organization called SSDF
under leadership of Dr. Lako Jada Kawjok.
Mr. Kawjok declared on this website sometimes back that Equatoria
is already a nation and is fighting for it as the region has common
cultural psychological make up that unite them which is Arabi Juba,
according to him.
I have stated it here before in my commentary that Arabi Juba, in
meaning is a broken Arabic most Southerners who don not speak or speak
classical Arabic can understand each other in South Sudan, and naming
it Arabi Juba, does not necessarily give ownership to the region, so
it was a false claim from Dr. Lako Jada with his tribal organization
named SSDF.
This tribal organization called SSDF since it surface in 2016 in
Equatoria region, never mention anything about targeted roads attacks
against innocent civilians based on their ethnicity. They failed to
distinguish between Dinka in government and other Dinka who have
nothing to do with the government activities and such policy look the
same with the letter of resignation announced with the name of Gen.
Thomas Cirillo. We will see what might display out in future between
SSDF and Mogga Lo Cirillo as they named him in this press release or
whatever the word might mean.
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info@southsudannation
February 20, 2017 at 8:50 pm
Abel Magok,
Just some clarification. Arabi Juba is the slang Arabic spoken
by anybody born or having lived long enough in Juba or its precincts
and it incorporates many words from the local languages spoken by the
natives of then Juba district and Central Equatoria at large.
Indeed, as a government officer then, I was able to work or
travel in all parts of the Greater Equatoria without encountering any
language problem as this ‘Arabic Juba’ was spoken and understood in
every corner of Equatoria. I assume this might be Dr. Laku presumption
that Equatoria is potentially a nation since it has one language.
Incidentally, when I lived in Wau as a child long, long, long time
ago, there was then a characteristic Arabic Wau spoken by those
conglomerations of tribes then living in Wau (Then there were many
government officials from Equatoria deployed as officials there to
fill government jobs). Dinka language wasn’t any part of our
vocabulary then, and that was real history.
Then, in Wau town, the nearest languages we picked up were the
Balanda, Kreish, Ndogo or Jur languages, depending on who was your
next door neighbor.
Now of course, with the so-called ‘forced Jieng colonization
of Wau,’ things are different.
I also vividly remember that after the 1972 Addis Ababa
Agreement, Arabi Juba language was still very widely spoken by every
one including the children of those of President Abel Alier and many
of the younger jieng generation who settled and joined schools in
Juba. Arabi Juba was the most popular language of music and things
were going smoothly.
What name would you want to call this language, since it isn’t
the classical Arabic?
Calling it rightly as ‘Arabi Juba’ gives it some credence as a
local language developed particularly in Juba town and it isn’t the
classical Arabic of the jellaba Arabs. In fact, even those Arabs in
Juba spoke Arabi Juba.
Of course, it’s also rightly appropriate to also call that
slang spoken in Wau or Malakal as Arabi Wau or Arabi Malakal,
respectively.
Let’s give credit where it’s due, politics and tribalism aside.
Editor
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Eastern
February 21, 2017 at 5:43 am
Dear Editor,
Abel Magok is a bitter man in the face of the glaring reality
of the Equatorian identity which South Sudan as a country even doesn’t
have! By the way, the Arabi Juba has permeated so deep into the
Equatoria country to the extend that even local churches use it in
hymns, liturgical texts, etc. Our elders who haven’t had formal
education are able to read Arabi Juba since it is written in
Latin/Roman scripts rather than the Arabic scripts. This helps in that
most of the vernaculars of Equatoria follow that system. The Nubi
language of East Africa borrowed/derived many of its vocabularies from
this variant of Arabic – the Arabi Juba.
Further afield, there’s Chadian Arabic or Shuwa Arabic, which
folks in Equatoria could understand. Please if you have the time, tune
in to radio Chad to listen to verify for yourself – if you are
conversant with Arabi Juba.
On the cases of the alleged targeted roadside killings, you
need to raise that question along the mass exodus from Equatorian
villages at this juncture. They way, a meaningful discourse will ensue
to diliberate on the issue or issues at hand.
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Abel Magok
February 22, 2017 at 12:47 am
Eastern,
I will not reply this fictions thoughts of your Arabi
Juba. For the victims of Equatoria roads attacks, the SSDF under
leadership of Dr, Lako Jada Kwajok is responsible for it, let him
continue with it.
Did you hear about 1.03 Billion Shillings (10 Millions
U.S) freeze by Kenya in Mogga’s account and sister Fueni.
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Roberto Kasongo
February 21, 2017 at 8:52 am
Abel Magok,
Arabic Juba is a cultural thing. None Equatorian even if they
speak it, they do not understand the art of it. For example, the first
name of the Deputy Press Secretary for SSDF is Lotole. This name is in
Arabic Juba. Do you understand the meaning of Lotole? I do not think
you know what it means. Equatorian have a lot in common including
Arabic Juba. Since December 15, 2013, there are over 50 thousands
innocent civilians have been killed in South Sudan. I just wondered
many of them were Dinka?
Roberto Kasongo ( Bana Equatoria )
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Hardball
February 21, 2017 at 5:08 pm
#Abel_Magok;
To just declare one self as a nation is one thing but actually
making it happened is another story that isn’t a piece of cake! This
is like president Kiir declaring South Sudan as the world new
superpower; saying USA is no longer had that power! Does it mean it’s
the case in reality?
These so-called Equatoria think getting an independent is like
going to the supermarket and get “a loaf of bread” yeah that’s how
they think because they don’t have any clue of sacrificial this being
independent is!
They need to asked where the like of John Garang, Karbino
Kuanyin. Arok Thon Arok, William Nyuon Bany, Samuel Gai Tut, Martin
Majier Gai, Nyachigag Nyachiluk, Joseph Oduho, Akuot Atem; have been
and thousands of the same high ranking generals, commanders and three
millions strong men and women soldiers who lost their lives because of
what South Sudan is today!
I am not saying you Equatorians are not going to afford the
exact same fate but I wish you all the best!
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info@southsudannation
February 21, 2017 at 6:00 pm
Hardball,
Your unsympathetic comparison about those war heroes you
listed above is unfortunate and misinformed.
In actuality and fact, John Garang gave the orders to
eliminate those freedom pioneers, all those war heroes were
maliciously and criminally KILLED by none other the jieng themselves.
They were all victims of John Garang’s and his deputy, Kiir Mayardit.
Secondly, it’s unforgivably pathetic of you even to make
any comparison or such inappropriate references to those heroes, they
are our champions of freedom but John Garang and his first assassin,
Kiir, were responsible in their untimely killings, the respected elder
Akuot Atem and Gai Tut in Bilpham, Ethiopia, judge Martin Majier,
Nachigak and Arok, who disagreed with Garang’s leadership regardless
of their coming from Garang’s own home of Bor.
Of course, these new generation of deserting Equatorian
generals are more intelligent and fully aware of the cowardly Kiir’s
murderous trait of elimination of rivals, like he tried killing Dr.
Riek Machar.
Millions of disgruntled South Sudanese are confident and
hopeful that these generals heroically deserting Kiir’s failed
government will surely persevere and succeed in the new liberation.
Editor
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Force_1
February 22, 2017 at 12:44 am
Hardball,
I am with the editor on this one; don’t ever mention those
late honorable patriots again as if they were part of John Garang
dictatorship movement when he was running the movement as if it was
his own personal property and pay no regard to anyone’s opinion!
Most of those honorable patriots were mercilessly murdered
by Garang just because they had different opinion on where the
movement was heading and I couldn’t agree more with editor! The truths
has to be told no matter how hard it’s to do so!
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Gatdarwich
February 21, 2017 at 2:57 am
I don’t think Mr. Swaka’s resignation will magically change
anything in South Sudan because Mr. Swaka is a lone wolf hero with no
fighting force behind him. Just like General Lado Gore. Nothing shall
stop the traitorous Dinka from killing non-Dinka tribe people in South
Sudan unless all the targeted tribes start doing to the traitorous
Dinka exactly what they(Dinka) have been doing to them(non-Dinka tribe
men, women, boys, girls, the elderly, and the sick) without the
slightest sense of reservation. Only an EYE for an EYE shall stop the
traitorous Jenges’ madness full stop.
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Steve John
February 21, 2017 at 2:55 pm
Gatdarwich,
I like your analogy very much. Even our peasant farmers know
that you can put off grassland/bushfires with fire, what we in Arabi
Juba call “gata nar”. Only when all peoples of South Sudan arm
themselves and be prepared to unleash revenge on the murderous jaangs
can there be any meaningful discourse and reconciliation. Peace is
only possible under equals and anything short of that is subjugation
and surrender. Meaning, you can choose to have Detente like what
Reagen did with Gorbachov in the 80s, it worked very well during the
arms race and neither (USA-USSR) of them ever thought of starting a
nuclear war. If however, either of them were weak like Iraq of Sadam
for that matter, this would only encourage bullying of the weaker by
the stronger one. As long as Kiir and his tribal militia procure
weapons from third parties, they will opt for a military solution. The
rebels or any non-jaang communities must as a matter of security, arm
themselves. It is only then that the jaang be ready to talk. Afterall,
they act and dont sentimentalize issues. Anything short of this is
simply foolish academic discourse that serves no purpose.
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Gatdarwich
February 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm
Steve John,
You are absolutely correct. Peace shall only prevail in
South Sudan when the traitorous Jenges feel the pain and the plight
they’re subjecting non-Dinka tribe people into. Talking of peace and
reconciliation before that is an absolute waste of time, and a pure
golden license for the traitorous Jenges to continue killing many more
innocent non-Dinka tribe men, women, boys, girls, and the elderly full
stop
Steve John, I wish every affected tribesman think wisely
like me and you.
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Abel Magok
February 21, 2017 at 7:12 am
Mr. info@southsudannation,
Arabi Juba, is a non-classical, broken Arabic or slang most
Southerners who speak classical or broken Arabic could understand
themselves not for Equatorian alone. I myself speak good Arabic, write
it and don’t need to be born in Juba or live longer enough there to
speak with someone claiming ownership of this language.
You do not get my point there, is not the name Arabi Juba, is such
wrong claim that turn it into a common cultural psychological make up
that unite Equatorian alone apart from the rest in South Sudan.
You are trying to give every city in South Sudan its own Arabic,
people of Malakal most of them speak classical Arabic and I live
longer enough in Wau not a child like you but as young adult and went
there 4 or 5 years ago, nothing call Arabi Wau there but people speak
classical Arabic and slang or broken Arabic like those living in Juba.
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Malouda
February 21, 2017 at 10:44 am
Ho, SSDF,you have no objective, because if your movement is really
patriot you should only address your objectives to the ruling system
without touching or insulting tribe, because if you are always
attaching Jeing tribe, then you even empowering president Kiir,
because the government that is full of thieves as you mentioned is
caring all tribes even your defected generals also the army you
claimed that is not a national is the very army who received your
defected general Cirilo when he was first defected from SAF in 1992,
if those (soldiers) were not national army they could kill your
general by that time and there will be no general Cirillo of today,
your general know well who received him in 1992 around Juba. targeting
certain tribe and killing them innocently will not take this country a
head it is better to address our issues to a ruling system not a tribe
otherwise we are going to face a disaster when this targeted tribe
realize and wakeup to call for their selves-defense movement.
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Bol
February 21, 2017 at 2:34 pm
What about today’s news of $10 Millions USD being frozen by Kenyan
authorities and reported by the Star Newspaper? Gen SWAKA could be
(unknown gunman of Bilfam, who robbed the government $10M) but he
failed to conceal the proceeds of his robbery as the money was
successfully traced and frozen. Some people are not good at anything!
Not good at rebellion because if they try it, they get caught,face
Court and and hanged or let loose to be finish off by natural
courses….If they try to steal public money, the money get traced and
recover…..Give it up fellows…(Kewete) is good for sleeping.
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Steve John
February 22, 2017 at 8:56 am
Bol,
Give our esteemed readers the details of your of your
journalistic investigations, if any. Could it be that your kenyan
friends have been “bought” to write such allegations, afterall they
are known for cheap bribery? Perhaps Gen. Cirillo is not that
“smart-thief” who should have been more smarter than the jaangs, who
plunder the state and are covered up and still at large. We are yet to
learn such jaang virtues of “smart-stealing”. Drinking more milk as
opposed to (kwete, I think you mispellt it) only makes one vigilant,
observant and crafty. It gives you more time to think and develop evil
plans, whereas drinking kwete, simply doses you off to sleep and you
have no time for evil plans. We should start drinking milk like the
jaangs, it works. Perhaps then, more money can be effectively and
stealthly be gotten out of the country. Great!
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BILL KUCH
February 21, 2017 at 5:22 pm
Equatorians generals are there for political!!
They will never change anything in South Sudan without Dinka
involvement. They were all political generals because they don’t have
man power to change things. If Nuer could not win this war, then I
think Equatorians are wasting time by doing ambushes which are not
necessary to act that way. Have they ever controlled any town in South
Sudan. Of course, not! They are expecting Nuer tribe and the world to
fight for them and that would never take place either. You can not
kill civilians on routes of hiding and expect some changes.
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False Millionnaire
February 22, 2017 at 8:37 am
Gatdarwich,
Cousin,isn’t it not because the concept of,”eye for eye”,went sore
that’s the cause that has condamned u to rust in a UN protected camp
some where on earth?
If it has brought hell upon u and your Kins,how would that take
the likes of Steve and Eastern to Paradise?!!!
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Equatoria Nation
February 22, 2017 at 11:43 am
Abel Magok
Stop doubting! Your st… mindset of thinking that you liberated
this nation causes you more isolation than comfort. You see now how
you are unwanted in the country and are the potential target. Former
rebel leaderships of John Garang and Kiir had missed their destiny of
united Sudan and ended up bouncing to drink their vomits-separation of
South Sudan. They killed many who advocated for independent country,
including the current pro-separatist Dr. Riek Machar. This is evident
by its failure to change its name from former rebel name-SPLM/A with
its branch known as SPLM/A-North destabilizing the Sudan. SPLM/A in
all directions is still working out a possibility of uniting Sudan.
Let Dinka go and join their black fellows in Blue Nile. We are working
for our separate state and we will do everything to ensure that this
objective is received. Equatoria oyee.
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Deng Deng
February 22, 2017 at 1:41 pm
Brothers Bill and Bol,
Please be careful with your provocative statements. If Equatorians
decided to for a full blown out war on Dinkas, honestly where will us
Dinkas exit Juba and the rest of Equatoria. Think twice before talking
nonsense. How can you fool Junubin that Thomas can steal nine or ten
million dollars without going due diligence processes of the money
being approved by the Minister of defense and Chief of general staff
and the Ministry of Finance?
Assumptions and fooling others is sickness. I do not blame you
guys. The 20 years last fought wars has traumatized majority of
Southerners. God Bless us.
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President Kiir
Feb. 19 Featured, Uncategorized 19 comments
Press Release, SSDF, FEB/19/2017, SSN;
The resignation of Lt. General Thomas Cirillo Swaka (Mogga Lo
Cirillo), the SPLA Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics, sent shock
waves in all directions. The news is still reverberating in all
corners of the Republic of South Sudan. It’s too early to gauge the
full impact of this significant development. The glaring fact is that
the resignation was welcomed by the majority of the South Sudanese
people and probably some of the General’s well-wishers outside the
borders of South Sudan.
Lt. General Thomas Cirillo, is a living hero and a role model to many
Equatorian and South Sudanese officers and soldiers. His resignation
can only encourage more of the same from the real patriots amongst the
armed forces.
The South Sudan Democratic Front (SSDF) applauds and celebrates the
selfless and patriotic decision taken by our renown General by
preferring to be on the side of the people over remaining loyal to an
illegitimate regime that’s permanently infested with corruption and
tribalism.
His brilliant resignation letter has confirmed what we have been
saying all along that the SPLA is not a national army and the
government is implementing a divisive policy aimed at domination and
hegemony of the Jieng tribe over the other ethnicities of South Sudan.
It’s clear that the General took the decision following plenty of
patience and a lot of thought. It was perceived that the General has
been under enormous pressure to quit the government from his community
and the Equatorians on the one hand, and as a result to the mounting
crimes committed by the SPLA and the militias affiliated to it against
the civilian populations, on the other.
The General’s resignation letter has exposed what has been hidden away
from the public regarding the running of the so-called government of
South Sudan. It’s apparent that there is no real institutional work
and those at the top of the regime do not adhere to any procedures or
regulations. They are above the law, and South Sudan is more or less
being run as a Chieftaincy of the Jieng tribe.
The ridiculous attempts to discredit and tarnish the name of Lt.
General Thomas Cirillo will all be despised and ignored. His
reputation would ever remain immaculate and unscathed. These attempts
are cheap and are being propagated by food lovers like Brig. General
Lul Rui Koang, the spokesperson of the SPLA , who is not even a real
General.
Regarding military education, training, courage and integrity, Lt.
General Thomas Cirillo is superior to Kiir, Kuol Manyang Juuk, and
Paul Malong. Of course, there are those with twisted minds who seem to
tolerate commanders who commit atrocities and kill innocent civilians.
Their followers and beneficiaries even call them as brave men and
heroes. Well, ruthlessness and savagery are not bravery and massacring
unarmed civilians, is not heroism. They are criminals.
Perhaps the only field in which the trio could beat Lt. General Thomas
Cirillo without contest – is the field of thievery. Therefore, it was
not a surprise that the names of the trio appeared in the Sentry
report while the name of Mogga Lo Cirillo was nowhere to be found in
it.
In fact, many in his community, who know him very well, have been
worrying that his name may get soiled in the course of serving the
people of South Sudan in a government full of thieves. His departure
is a great relief to his friends, community and the people of South
Sudan.
Even if he decides to do nothing more, he has already done the single
most important thing which is the unveiling of the fact that we
neither have a national army nor an impartial government.
At the time of writing this piece, the social media circulated the
resignation letters of Brig. General, Henry Oyay Nyango, Judge
Advocate General, Director, Military Justice and Col. Khalid Ono Loki,
Judge Advocate, Head, Military Courts.
Now, what would the government say about these resignations? Would the
two military judges be accused of misappropriation of funds to blemish
their reputations? It’s unheard of that judges resigned their jobs in
protest of the absence of the rule of law and widespread impunity in a
government. These are testimonies confirming that matters have reached
the lowest low. The SSDF commends the patriotic move by the two
military judges and encourages others to take similar decisions.
Thomas Cirillo’s departure appears to have the Domino Effect on the
course of events within the SPLA. It’s a game changer and would
certainly not be confined to the military sector but would include
some politicians.
Hence, the SSDF takes this opportunity to appeal to our people in
uniform to desert the SPLA and all the armed forces as they were shown
beyond doubt to be nothing but tribal and oppressive institutions.
As for the politicians, it’s time to abandon the sinking boat of Salva
Kiir and his mentors who are members of the Jieng Council of Elders
(JCE).
Lotole Lo Luri,
Deputy Press Secretary – SSDF
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Abel Magok
February 20, 2017 at 3:11 pm
I am wondering whether Gen. Thomas Cirillo who recently resigned
from the SPLA has connection with this tribal organization called SSDF
under leadership of Dr. Lako Jada Kawjok.
Mr. Kawjok declared on this website sometimes back that Equatoria
is already a nation and is fighting for it as the region has common
cultural psychological make up that unite them which is Arabi Juba,
according to him.
I have stated it here before in my commentary that Arabi Juba, in
meaning is a broken Arabic most Southerners who don not speak or speak
classical Arabic can understand each other in South Sudan, and naming
it Arabi Juba, does not necessarily give ownership to the region, so
it was a false claim from Dr. Lako Jada with his tribal organization
named SSDF.
This tribal organization called SSDF since it surface in 2016 in
Equatoria region, never mention anything about targeted roads attacks
against innocent civilians based on their ethnicity. They failed to
distinguish between Dinka in government and other Dinka who have
nothing to do with the government activities and such policy look the
same with the letter of resignation announced with the name of Gen.
Thomas Cirillo. We will see what might display out in future between
SSDF and Mogga Lo Cirillo as they named him in this press release or
whatever the word might mean.
Reply
info@southsudannation
February 20, 2017 at 8:50 pm
Abel Magok,
Just some clarification. Arabi Juba is the slang Arabic spoken
by anybody born or having lived long enough in Juba or its precincts
and it incorporates many words from the local languages spoken by the
natives of then Juba district and Central Equatoria at large.
Indeed, as a government officer then, I was able to work or
travel in all parts of the Greater Equatoria without encountering any
language problem as this ‘Arabic Juba’ was spoken and understood in
every corner of Equatoria. I assume this might be Dr. Laku presumption
that Equatoria is potentially a nation since it has one language.
Incidentally, when I lived in Wau as a child long, long, long time
ago, there was then a characteristic Arabic Wau spoken by those
conglomerations of tribes then living in Wau (Then there were many
government officials from Equatoria deployed as officials there to
fill government jobs). Dinka language wasn’t any part of our
vocabulary then, and that was real history.
Then, in Wau town, the nearest languages we picked up were the
Balanda, Kreish, Ndogo or Jur languages, depending on who was your
next door neighbor.
Now of course, with the so-called ‘forced Jieng colonization
of Wau,’ things are different.
I also vividly remember that after the 1972 Addis Ababa
Agreement, Arabi Juba language was still very widely spoken by every
one including the children of those of President Abel Alier and many
of the younger jieng generation who settled and joined schools in
Juba. Arabi Juba was the most popular language of music and things
were going smoothly.
What name would you want to call this language, since it isn’t
the classical Arabic?
Calling it rightly as ‘Arabi Juba’ gives it some credence as a
local language developed particularly in Juba town and it isn’t the
classical Arabic of the jellaba Arabs. In fact, even those Arabs in
Juba spoke Arabi Juba.
Of course, it’s also rightly appropriate to also call that
slang spoken in Wau or Malakal as Arabi Wau or Arabi Malakal,
respectively.
Let’s give credit where it’s due, politics and tribalism aside.
Editor
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Eastern
February 21, 2017 at 5:43 am
Dear Editor,
Abel Magok is a bitter man in the face of the glaring reality
of the Equatorian identity which South Sudan as a country even doesn’t
have! By the way, the Arabi Juba has permeated so deep into the
Equatoria country to the extend that even local churches use it in
hymns, liturgical texts, etc. Our elders who haven’t had formal
education are able to read Arabi Juba since it is written in
Latin/Roman scripts rather than the Arabic scripts. This helps in that
most of the vernaculars of Equatoria follow that system. The Nubi
language of East Africa borrowed/derived many of its vocabularies from
this variant of Arabic – the Arabi Juba.
Further afield, there’s Chadian Arabic or Shuwa Arabic, which
folks in Equatoria could understand. Please if you have the time, tune
in to radio Chad to listen to verify for yourself – if you are
conversant with Arabi Juba.
On the cases of the alleged targeted roadside killings, you
need to raise that question along the mass exodus from Equatorian
villages at this juncture. They way, a meaningful discourse will ensue
to diliberate on the issue or issues at hand.
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Abel Magok
February 22, 2017 at 12:47 am
Eastern,
I will not reply this fictions thoughts of your Arabi
Juba. For the victims of Equatoria roads attacks, the SSDF under
leadership of Dr, Lako Jada Kwajok is responsible for it, let him
continue with it.
Did you hear about 1.03 Billion Shillings (10 Millions
U.S) freeze by Kenya in Mogga’s account and sister Fueni.
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Roberto Kasongo
February 21, 2017 at 8:52 am
Abel Magok,
Arabic Juba is a cultural thing. None Equatorian even if they
speak it, they do not understand the art of it. For example, the first
name of the Deputy Press Secretary for SSDF is Lotole. This name is in
Arabic Juba. Do you understand the meaning of Lotole? I do not think
you know what it means. Equatorian have a lot in common including
Arabic Juba. Since December 15, 2013, there are over 50 thousands
innocent civilians have been killed in South Sudan. I just wondered
many of them were Dinka?
Roberto Kasongo ( Bana Equatoria )
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Hardball
February 21, 2017 at 5:08 pm
#Abel_Magok;
To just declare one self as a nation is one thing but actually
making it happened is another story that isn’t a piece of cake! This
is like president Kiir declaring South Sudan as the world new
superpower; saying USA is no longer had that power! Does it mean it’s
the case in reality?
These so-called Equatoria think getting an independent is like
going to the supermarket and get “a loaf of bread” yeah that’s how
they think because they don’t have any clue of sacrificial this being
independent is!
They need to asked where the like of John Garang, Karbino
Kuanyin. Arok Thon Arok, William Nyuon Bany, Samuel Gai Tut, Martin
Majier Gai, Nyachigag Nyachiluk, Joseph Oduho, Akuot Atem; have been
and thousands of the same high ranking generals, commanders and three
millions strong men and women soldiers who lost their lives because of
what South Sudan is today!
I am not saying you Equatorians are not going to afford the
exact same fate but I wish you all the best!
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info@southsudannation
February 21, 2017 at 6:00 pm
Hardball,
Your unsympathetic comparison about those war heroes you
listed above is unfortunate and misinformed.
In actuality and fact, John Garang gave the orders to
eliminate those freedom pioneers, all those war heroes were
maliciously and criminally KILLED by none other the jieng themselves.
They were all victims of John Garang’s and his deputy, Kiir Mayardit.
Secondly, it’s unforgivably pathetic of you even to make
any comparison or such inappropriate references to those heroes, they
are our champions of freedom but John Garang and his first assassin,
Kiir, were responsible in their untimely killings, the respected elder
Akuot Atem and Gai Tut in Bilpham, Ethiopia, judge Martin Majier,
Nachigak and Arok, who disagreed with Garang’s leadership regardless
of their coming from Garang’s own home of Bor.
Of course, these new generation of deserting Equatorian
generals are more intelligent and fully aware of the cowardly Kiir’s
murderous trait of elimination of rivals, like he tried killing Dr.
Riek Machar.
Millions of disgruntled South Sudanese are confident and
hopeful that these generals heroically deserting Kiir’s failed
government will surely persevere and succeed in the new liberation.
Editor
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Force_1
February 22, 2017 at 12:44 am
Hardball,
I am with the editor on this one; don’t ever mention those
late honorable patriots again as if they were part of John Garang
dictatorship movement when he was running the movement as if it was
his own personal property and pay no regard to anyone’s opinion!
Most of those honorable patriots were mercilessly murdered
by Garang just because they had different opinion on where the
movement was heading and I couldn’t agree more with editor! The truths
has to be told no matter how hard it’s to do so!
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Gatdarwich
February 21, 2017 at 2:57 am
I don’t think Mr. Swaka’s resignation will magically change
anything in South Sudan because Mr. Swaka is a lone wolf hero with no
fighting force behind him. Just like General Lado Gore. Nothing shall
stop the traitorous Dinka from killing non-Dinka tribe people in South
Sudan unless all the targeted tribes start doing to the traitorous
Dinka exactly what they(Dinka) have been doing to them(non-Dinka tribe
men, women, boys, girls, the elderly, and the sick) without the
slightest sense of reservation. Only an EYE for an EYE shall stop the
traitorous Jenges’ madness full stop.
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Steve John
February 21, 2017 at 2:55 pm
Gatdarwich,
I like your analogy very much. Even our peasant farmers know
that you can put off grassland/bushfires with fire, what we in Arabi
Juba call “gata nar”. Only when all peoples of South Sudan arm
themselves and be prepared to unleash revenge on the murderous jaangs
can there be any meaningful discourse and reconciliation. Peace is
only possible under equals and anything short of that is subjugation
and surrender. Meaning, you can choose to have Detente like what
Reagen did with Gorbachov in the 80s, it worked very well during the
arms race and neither (USA-USSR) of them ever thought of starting a
nuclear war. If however, either of them were weak like Iraq of Sadam
for that matter, this would only encourage bullying of the weaker by
the stronger one. As long as Kiir and his tribal militia procure
weapons from third parties, they will opt for a military solution. The
rebels or any non-jaang communities must as a matter of security, arm
themselves. It is only then that the jaang be ready to talk. Afterall,
they act and dont sentimentalize issues. Anything short of this is
simply foolish academic discourse that serves no purpose.
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Gatdarwich
February 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm
Steve John,
You are absolutely correct. Peace shall only prevail in
South Sudan when the traitorous Jenges feel the pain and the plight
they’re subjecting non-Dinka tribe people into. Talking of peace and
reconciliation before that is an absolute waste of time, and a pure
golden license for the traitorous Jenges to continue killing many more
innocent non-Dinka tribe men, women, boys, girls, and the elderly full
stop
Steve John, I wish every affected tribesman think wisely
like me and you.
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Abel Magok
February 21, 2017 at 7:12 am
Mr. info@southsudannation,
Arabi Juba, is a non-classical, broken Arabic or slang most
Southerners who speak classical or broken Arabic could understand
themselves not for Equatorian alone. I myself speak good Arabic, write
it and don’t need to be born in Juba or live longer enough there to
speak with someone claiming ownership of this language.
You do not get my point there, is not the name Arabi Juba, is such
wrong claim that turn it into a common cultural psychological make up
that unite Equatorian alone apart from the rest in South Sudan.
You are trying to give every city in South Sudan its own Arabic,
people of Malakal most of them speak classical Arabic and I live
longer enough in Wau not a child like you but as young adult and went
there 4 or 5 years ago, nothing call Arabi Wau there but people speak
classical Arabic and slang or broken Arabic like those living in Juba.
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Malouda
February 21, 2017 at 10:44 am
Ho, SSDF,you have no objective, because if your movement is really
patriot you should only address your objectives to the ruling system
without touching or insulting tribe, because if you are always
attaching Jeing tribe, then you even empowering president Kiir,
because the government that is full of thieves as you mentioned is
caring all tribes even your defected generals also the army you
claimed that is not a national is the very army who received your
defected general Cirilo when he was first defected from SAF in 1992,
if those (soldiers) were not national army they could kill your
general by that time and there will be no general Cirillo of today,
your general know well who received him in 1992 around Juba. targeting
certain tribe and killing them innocently will not take this country a
head it is better to address our issues to a ruling system not a tribe
otherwise we are going to face a disaster when this targeted tribe
realize and wakeup to call for their selves-defense movement.
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Bol
February 21, 2017 at 2:34 pm
What about today’s news of $10 Millions USD being frozen by Kenyan
authorities and reported by the Star Newspaper? Gen SWAKA could be
(unknown gunman of Bilfam, who robbed the government $10M) but he
failed to conceal the proceeds of his robbery as the money was
successfully traced and frozen. Some people are not good at anything!
Not good at rebellion because if they try it, they get caught,face
Court and and hanged or let loose to be finish off by natural
courses….If they try to steal public money, the money get traced and
recover…..Give it up fellows…(Kewete) is good for sleeping.
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Steve John
February 22, 2017 at 8:56 am
Bol,
Give our esteemed readers the details of your of your
journalistic investigations, if any. Could it be that your kenyan
friends have been “bought” to write such allegations, afterall they
are known for cheap bribery? Perhaps Gen. Cirillo is not that
“smart-thief” who should have been more smarter than the jaangs, who
plunder the state and are covered up and still at large. We are yet to
learn such jaang virtues of “smart-stealing”. Drinking more milk as
opposed to (kwete, I think you mispellt it) only makes one vigilant,
observant and crafty. It gives you more time to think and develop evil
plans, whereas drinking kwete, simply doses you off to sleep and you
have no time for evil plans. We should start drinking milk like the
jaangs, it works. Perhaps then, more money can be effectively and
stealthly be gotten out of the country. Great!
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BILL KUCH
February 21, 2017 at 5:22 pm
Equatorians generals are there for political!!
They will never change anything in South Sudan without Dinka
involvement. They were all political generals because they don’t have
man power to change things. If Nuer could not win this war, then I
think Equatorians are wasting time by doing ambushes which are not
necessary to act that way. Have they ever controlled any town in South
Sudan. Of course, not! They are expecting Nuer tribe and the world to
fight for them and that would never take place either. You can not
kill civilians on routes of hiding and expect some changes.
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False Millionnaire
February 22, 2017 at 8:37 am
Gatdarwich,
Cousin,isn’t it not because the concept of,”eye for eye”,went sore
that’s the cause that has condamned u to rust in a UN protected camp
some where on earth?
If it has brought hell upon u and your Kins,how would that take
the likes of Steve and Eastern to Paradise?!!!
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Equatoria Nation
February 22, 2017 at 11:43 am
Abel Magok
Stop doubting! Your st… mindset of thinking that you liberated
this nation causes you more isolation than comfort. You see now how
you are unwanted in the country and are the potential target. Former
rebel leaderships of John Garang and Kiir had missed their destiny of
united Sudan and ended up bouncing to drink their vomits-separation of
South Sudan. They killed many who advocated for independent country,
including the current pro-separatist Dr. Riek Machar. This is evident
by its failure to change its name from former rebel name-SPLM/A with
its branch known as SPLM/A-North destabilizing the Sudan. SPLM/A in
all directions is still working out a possibility of uniting Sudan.
Let Dinka go and join their black fellows in Blue Nile. We are working
for our separate state and we will do everything to ensure that this
objective is received. Equatoria oyee.
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Deng Deng
February 22, 2017 at 1:41 pm
Brothers Bill and Bol,
Please be careful with your provocative statements. If Equatorians
decided to for a full blown out war on Dinkas, honestly where will us
Dinkas exit Juba and the rest of Equatoria. Think twice before talking
nonsense. How can you fool Junubin that Thomas can steal nine or ten
million dollars without going due diligence processes of the money
being approved by the Minister of defense and Chief of general staff
and the Ministry of Finance?
Assumptions and fooling others is sickness. I do not blame you
guys. The 20 years last fought wars has traumatized majority of
Southerners. God Bless us.
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