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[Jon Schwark]

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[Tony Albert]

Hey guys!

Consider me an "intersted party." I'm an SF native, current Oaklander, musician, photographer, techie, and urban planning wonk. I feel like very few of the conversations surrounding housing in the Bay Area fall anywhere near in line with my personal experience and beliefs, so I try to voice my concerns wherever possible.

I also can't stand the mindset that anyone who is a techie is an outsider, and anyone who is pro-development is anti-local. I am pro-development, a startup employee, and a creative native with a strong mind towards economic and environmental justice, and smart, sustainable planning.

I unfortunately have a crazy busy schedule basically all the time but I really hope to become personally involved with SFBARF when time permits.

Thanks!

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[skywardsail]

Hi, everyone. Juan here. I'm the new coder. If you haven't, go to www.sfbarf.org.  Tell me what you think.  I've lived in the Bay Area for three years and probably for at least a few more.  I'm sympathetic to the cause of getting people into homes.  I also think that innovative and counter intuitive solutions to common problems are worth fighting for.  If you have an idea for the web site, I'd love to hear it.

-Juan

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-7, Jon Schwark wrote:

Just joining us? 

Take a look around, and when you are ready, introduce yourself here.

While participating on this site, keep in mind:

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[Edm Pak]

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On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-7, Jon Schwark wrote:

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[mrt.m...@gmail.com]

Hello, I attended the meeting in SF Tuesday night and am happy I got to meet some members in person. I'm a tech consultant currently in the South Bay Area. Look forward to getting more involved.

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[Jeff Mishler]

Hello everyone! Thanks Jon for setting up this thread. I was also at last night's event, and it was nice to meet some of you.

I come at this problem from the environmental perspective. In order to reduce our carbon emissions, we should be building our cities so that people are able to get around without cars, or when cars are needed, the trips are shorter. This was part of what the lawsuit we were discussing was about. Lots more to say, of course, and I look forward to participating more.

 - Jeff

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[Omar Diab]

Hi, I'm Omar. I grew up in Cleveland, studied computer science at Stanford (I'm finishing up grad school now) and joined a startup.

In that time, I discovered that I, in fact, am representative of a demographic that many people in SF can't stand.

I think SF is a great city and am frustrated by the policies that led to the housing situation we have today, and the resulting clash between outsiders like myself and SF natives. I want to do something about it. I just discovered SFBARF through a mutual friend (thanks Annie!) and plan to meet more of you, understand the problems here better and do what I can to help fix it.

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[Omar Diab]

Hi Juan! I'm down to help with the website (I'm a professional web developer). Just giving you a heads up, just met with Sonja here at the meetup, and she suggested I take a look at this. If you'd like to coordinate more let me know! 

[Sam Bowman]

Hi all,

I'm Sam. Right now, I live in SF and commute down to Stanford, where I'm working on a dissertation in computational linguistics.

Why SFBARF? I grew up in San Francisco (yay Lowell High) with separated parents, and for me that meant living in thirteen homes in and near the city, plus three more as an adult. Between that fact and the number of people I know well who have been or probably will be forced out of the inner Bay Area, I've found the politics of housing affordability hard to ignore. Having grown up among progressive activists of many stripes makes me want to get involved, and working as a scientist of sorts makes me interested in the kind of quantifiably helpful practices that SFBARF seems to stand for as a way to do this.

Other relevant influences? Jacobs, Yglesias, SPUR.

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I don't have enough free time these days to be heavily involved, and my professional skills probably aren't the most useful, but I'm happy to write letters and speak at hearings and the like when it seems like either would be especially helpful.

[Adina Levin]

Sam, if you have some ability to come to things after work, there are things to do and people to do them with at Palo Alto Forward, with as little or as much time as you have for it.  Sign up for Palo Alto Forward on facebook.

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[Armand Domalewski]

Hi Annie, yes, please, bookworm it up!

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Annie Fryman <afrym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks. I'm Annie. Was introduced to Sonja through a mutual friend who was
> familiar with a housing-minded mapping project I've been working on (thanks
> Quinten!).
>
> -About me: I'm originally from Kentucky, but came out here to attend
> Stanford in 2010 and studied Architectural Design/Urban Studies. I'm pushing
> 5y in the Bay Area, but have only been in SF for 6mos. Working at a small
> architecture firm in Noe Valley now.
> -Skills wise: I've got the normal palette of architectural
> graphics/modeling/drawing stuff, plus I worked at a GIS lab and on a few
> other urban/geo-minded research projects while at school, so a bit of data
> viz + mapping too. I also like to write. Come to me if you have ideas! I'm
> hoping we'll get a content section up on the SFBARF site soon.
> -Look out for: more YIMBY office hours... and GrowSF! --> GrowSF is a new
> partner organization with SFBARF, focusing on grassroots organizing for
> projects 10 units or less (very relevant to in-law units, upzoning in
> residential neighborhoods, etc). Email me personally if you want to know
> more!
> -Bonus! Here on Google Drive is a PDF excerpt from urbanist Alan Ehrenhalt's
> The Great Inversion. The book centers on the 21st century residentialization
> and class inversion of our urban centers, and what that means for planners,
> designers, homeowners, renters, policymakers... The specific chapter is a
> case study on urban Chicago + an affluent Chicago suburb that reminds me of
> a lot arguments we hear in SF regarding NIMBYs, preservation, zoning policy,
> density, etc. It's worth a read while you're bored at work today. + let me
> know if you want more literature, because I can appoint myself BARF bookworm
> if so?
>
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> a

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[Omar Diab]

Yes, Annie - all of the literature!

[Mike Ege]

I've lived in San Francisco for almost 25 years now, working as a bookseller, newspaper ad account exec and publisher. 

About 20 years ago I got involved in San Francisco politics, volunteering on campaigns, including serving on committees as well as in one capacity or another on boards of public policy related groups. 

I was president of one of the oldest political clubs in the city for about 7 years. I've served as the single serving commissioner on a city task force that everyone wanted to roll up and forget about. I've done some paid lobbying support work as well.

Most recently I've been active in SPUR, including serving on their ballot analysis committee, and last year I was on the county Civil Grand Jury, where I co-authored a report on the state of San Francisco's (deed-restricted) affordable housing programs. 

My own appraisal of the above experience is that I learned a lot, but accomplished little. 

Local politics in San Francisco is overwhelmingly focused on land use, and much of the public rhetoric is churn which benefits a variety of interests who benefit from keeping the City a very expensive place to live. I've seen friends come and go from San Francisco trying to make it here, or getting sucked into the "grow up and move to the suburbs" paradigm. In many ways, starting a career in the Bay Area is like being a Sophomore in state college, except that instead of being stuck as "Sophomores Forever" due to not enough classes, you get stuck as "Roommates Forever" due to not enough housing. We now also know that this pattern is economically and environmentally unsustainable. And as a rent controlled tenant and having seen my friends and neighbors get Ellised out of their homes, I understand how the lack of housing creates a sense of precarity for working people.

San Francisco is at risk of becoming a city where only two kinds of people will be able to live: bitter old rich white folks who justify their wealth by growing beards, donating to Tides and going to Hardly Strictly Bluegrass, and mentally ill homeless people. If that happens I'll have to leave because I don't want to become either one of those. 

[Marcus Ismael]

Hey everyone,

My name is Marcus, I was born and raised in San Francisco for the first ten years of my life, but my family was priced out during the first tech bubble. I now live on the Peninsula but most of my waking hours of the day are spent in the City usually spent doing some kind of political or governmental work on top of being an SF State student who cannot afford to live in the city I consider to be my true home. I serve as the President of the College Democrats at SFSU and have manged to align the club with the more pragmatic "moderate" ideology of San Francisco.

I know, firsthand, what it means to be kicked out of a neighborhood I called home for an entire decade, but unlike "progressives" in this town, I accept change and do not carry a sense of entitlement to a certain part of town just because I may have lived there for a while. I do intend to come back but with the inclination I see to accept backwards policies like a moratorium on housing construction, ballot measures to curb waterfront development that would get in the way of living room views, or even narrow minded opposition to bicycle lanes (Polk Street) and development of housing on private property (1979 Mission or a triplex development on Telegraph Hill), I no longer see San Francisco as welcoming to a local native such as myself.

I also do not understand the xenophobic, classicist reaction to the techie population. Yes, I do hate the aura of entitlement and the embrace of "disruption" philosophy that tends to lead to a trashed Dolores Park, displacement of residents, and the insularity of Google buses and Leap. However, techies are here to stay. This is their town just as much as it is ours. I worked as a field organizer for two campaigns, Assemblymember David Chiu and BART Director Nick Josefowitz, and both campaigns embraced the tech population and championed its ability to unite, mobilize, and improve the lives of San Franciscans whereas candidates who continue to insist on demonizing techies or even common-sense residents who support moderate development and growth lost in the last election.

Despite my busy schedule I would love to become involved with SFBARF because we do need a counterweight to the "progressive" (read: ultraconservative) block in this city and region. It has been their policies and lack of understanding of basic economic principles that have led to this crisis and I do believe SFBARF can be part of - if not the only organization - a growing group of San Franciscans and Bay Area residents who champion development, density, and growth.

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Hey All - For the sake of keeping this a nice clean list of member stories, I will be deleting conversational replies a few days after you make them. It's fine to welcome new members when they post here, just don't expect it to be permanently archived. - jon

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[Jeff Fong]

Hi everyone, 

My name's Jeff and I've probably met a few of y'all IRL at some of the panels/discussions. Just now getting on the Google group.

About me: Raised mostly in Texas before moving out to the Bay Area for college. I currently live in Oakland, but commute into SF most days to go to work. In my spare time I do a bit of writing/research and publish mostly at Market Urbanism. 

At present, I hope to make any upcoming discussions and contribute with writing/research. Hearings tend to be a bit of a stretch given my day job, but I'd of course love to help out there as well, my schedule permitting. 

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[Peter Thompson]

Hi Guys - 2.5 years now Bay Area resident, living in SF. Love it here, but in total agreement with the mission of SF BARF. The Tea Party of the Left has made it impossible to do anything meaningful for the greater good of all residents and creating a truly sustainable and vibrant Bay Area for the future. 


I'm Biz/Tech Guy with ties to traditional Corp and the Startup world. My passions are around Social Structures, the Built Environment and it impact on our communities, Sustainability, Urban Dev, Green Transportation, challenging current models of what is economic growth etc. Currently heavily involved in the SF Brigade as the former Delivery Lead that helped get the organization going, and now focusing on a few areas of which on is Housing via SF in Progress and talking to other stakeholders such as SFHAC. 

I don't have the time to be much more than a passive participant here, but I am looking for opportunities to make areas like this my full time focus, so we'll see where things lead. If anything, I am a connector of people for ideas, and happy to facilitate or guide anyone that is not really sure where to start with an idea or question in the right direction ( or least try to). 

[s...@stephenwoods.net]

Hello Everyone,

I'd consider myself a life-long YIMBY, originally from Denver. The first political issue I was aware of was the fight against the Denver Light Rail system. I was 13 years old and shocked to discover people were against better transit. I've done my share of political volunteer work, mostly in Colorado including canvasing for Denver's FastTracks transit modernization plan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FasTracks).

I've got two kids and I live in a SFR in NIMBY central (parkside/central sunset) where locals are currently concerned that the Taraval improvements will take away their precious parking places.

I'm a tech person as well, I work at Salesforce. I've living in San Francisco since 2006.

-Stephen

[Jon Schwark]

Oh man, we definitely can use Westside YIMBYs to go to planning and community and advocate for YIMBY positions. Welcome to the club!

[s...@stephenwoods.net]

I will make an effort to attend as many things as I can. 

[Dashiell Stander]

Hi everyone,

My name is Dashiell (Dash). I grew up in Marin, but I'm currently a student at UC Berkeley. Currently I live in the student co-ops here, but I've watched my friends--many of them lifelong Bay Area residents--graduate and struggle endlessly to find housing. I'm interested in learning the ins and outs of all of these issues and learning about ways to get involved. I wanted to start coming to planning meetings earlier in the spring, but managed to always be busy when they came around. Now that summer has begun my schedule is a lot more flexible and I plan on being a lot more present. 

Looking forward to meeting you all!

[Jon Titus]

Hi all,

I'm Jon. Recent undergraduate alum from Boston, even more recent SF resident, and soon to be working in Tech. Though long an urban planning and public transit wonk, it was only more recently that I realized that housing affordability, land use, and effective public transit were all part of the same conversation, which led me here. I believe building more equitable public spaces (to the detriment of single occupancy vehicle drivers), better transit (to the detriment of parking spaces), and more housing (to the detriment of parking lots) are inherently progressive actions, and I would love to advocate for those in whatever free time I end up having. 

  

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[Dave Fox]

Hey everyone,

My family and I are moving from Boston to Dublin, CA in August to be close to my wife's family. I'm a lawyer by profession, and will be working in downtown San Francisco.

After living in Boston for the past seven years, we were used to high rents. What we weren't prepared for, however, is just how much worse the price of housing is in the Bay Area. We currently live in Brookline, Massachusetts. Brookline is five miles from downtown Boston, with easy access to transit, and is within walking distance of Fenway Park. A two-bedroom in Dublin, CA, which is 40 miles outside of San Francisco, is the same price as our two-bedroom in Brookline. A two-bedroom apartment within the San Francisco city limits is laughably unaffordable. Alarmed, I looked into why exactly San Francisco's housing crisis was out of control. The answer seems to be that (1) the Bay Area's economy is booming because of the tech sector, with a lot of highly paid people moving in and looking for housing, and (2) there is a very vocal minority of Bay Area residents who have resisted any attempt to increase the Bay Area's housing supply to accommodate the booming tech sector, which has just increased rents and property values to an insane degree, with anger centered on the tech industry rather than the NIMBY activists and the politicians they support. I'm glad I found SFBARF, which is actually trying to push back on NIMBY activists.

Since our family is settling in the Bay Area for the long haul to be close to family, I'd like help as best as I can. The Bay Area should not turn into a playground for the very wealthy. With an increased housing stock, the area can keep and attract middle class families and reach its full potential. Hope to meet some of you out and about in the East Bay and SF!

Dave

[Kyle Martin]

Hi everyone! I ironically found this site after people in the office were talking about how crazy the Save Rincon Park lobby group is (http://www.saverinconpark.com) and we were thinking to ourselves..."why aren't the pro-housing folks as organized"...a couple google searches later and here I am. 

Looking forward to making a difference.

Best,

Kyle

[Clay Shentrup]

My name is Clay Shentrup. I was born in 1978, and I'm originally from rural Southeast Kansas. I lived in SF for most of 2004 to 2013, but then I was priced out when we had a baby. We now live in South Berkeley.

My greatest interest is electoral reform, which I believe is Humanity's Most Important Issue, for reasons partially discussed here:

http://ScoreVoting.net/LivesSaved.html

As such, I co-founded a non-profit called The Center for Election Science. I'm mentioned in the book Gaming the Vote by William Poundstone.

I'm also an urbanist, and a sustainability advocate, so of course I'm in favor of substantially increased density/walkability and public transit options. With regard to some specific policy in that area, I think we need a massive carbon tax, like yesterday. I think it should be big enough to fund the majority of all government expenditures.

At the recommendation of my friend Lori Droste (Berkeley city council member), I read Walkable City, and felt a strong connection to the author, and to the general challenge of "smart growth" in an era where many self-described "progressives" are very much in the NIMBY/preservationist camp. I also read The Agile City shortly thereafter.

I'm an advocate for the Basic Income, and I think it should replace most subsidies (in an ideal world, of course). Here's a nice talk on that subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnB16E36EQ

So, these are just a few general aspects of my worldview, which I think are particularly relevant to the broader issue of housing. I'm seriously considering become more politically active and even running for public office in a few years, once I've paid off my wife's student loan debt. :) So, as I mentioned to Sonja, I would love to start networking and learning about local issues far in advance for that time.

Thanks!

[Diego Aguilar-Canabal]

Hi everone, I'm Diego. I live in Berkeley, though I'm originally from the Washington DC area and came to California via Stanford for undergrad. The Bay Area's idea of density is a total joke to anyone from the east coast. I hate paying through the nose for a shitty apartment and pointing out the obvious solutions to old white retirees who finished paying off their mortages a billion years ago, so here I am.

RELEVANT FACTS ABOUT ME:

I do a pirate radio show on which Sonja has made two guest appearances so far (email me for the link since I'm using my real name here)

If math dyslexia is a thing, I probably have it. But I was an English major, so I can write stuff in well-constructed sentences for you, albeit without any qualms about starting a sentence with a conjunction.

That does it for relevant facts about me!

[leighamb]

Hi all,

I'm Leigha, I joined this group back in December, but I don't believe I ever properly introduced myself on this thread. This is what I told Sonja when I joined, which still applies:

I have no professional expertise in urban planning or real estate; I'm just a civic-minded renter who wants to see SF start making better political decisions regarding growth.

I moved to San Francisco in 2012 after graduating from Berkeley. I work in consulting, classic yuppie story, blah blah. After squeezing my way into the city on an entry-level salary and wondering what the hell was going on, I quickly educated myself on why finding housing is such a struggle around here. I won't hash out the same NIMBY-anti-development-political chaos tropes we've all heard a million times, but you know, it's something like this: cushy homeowners protecting their cush at the expense of people trying to procure cush. Then local politicians kowtow to cush-protection. We just need more cush! Cush for all, I say. 

I like to write about all things San Francisco, including the housing crunch and the sad economic state of most not-Baby Boomers. Jon was kind enough to share a recent piece I wrote on the moratorium on the SFBARF Facebook page:

https://medium.com/@leighabeckman/a-closer-look-at-the-housing-dialogue-in-san-francisco-bd0dc4aa93fe

And in a similar vein:

http://leighabeckman.blogspot.com/2014/11/some-thoughts-on-millennials.html

Looking forward to continuing my involvement in this organization and voicing support for the "obvious solutions" our friend Diego alluded to.

Leigha

[ritu...@gmail.com]

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> Hi Guys,

My name is Ritu Vohra and I'm a newbie developer in SF. I'm also the only woman developer I know, so great to meet like-minded folks.I ventured into development about 4 years ago and if all goes well, I will be adding about 5 new units to SF housing over the next two years.

I'm an ex CPA and live with my husband and 6 month old baby in SF. I'm absolutely thrilled to be a part of this group and like minded folks who are pro-housing as it helps solve the housing crisis our generation has been handed over.

Am happy to help and return the kindness, whenever needed. Although I'm not the traditional wealthy developer, I do my part for the community with small acts of kindness. If you need help or know someone that needs help, I try to do my bit to make a difference.

Best ,

Ritu

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[Starchild]

Ah! Hadn't seen this post yet when I responded to your other message, Ritu. I see you already volunteered to help. Thank you for being willing to engage in the fight beyond your project! And it does seem like female developers are a relative rarity; good to hear of you making a go of it.

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[Mark Leinauer]

Greetings all. So glad to have stumbled on this group. I'm a former Berkeley Policy/Planning student. I'm  now getting a phd in law but I still have the urbanist itch. I have some relevant background. I used to intern at SPUR. I worked against the shrinking city phenomenon when I lived in St. Louis (encouraging urban redevelopment, density, regional consolidation, mass transit etc.). .. you can check out my former group at nextstl.com. 

Really hope to get involved. 

Mark

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[mew...@gmail.com]

Hi all,

I'm Matthew. I live in South Berkeley in a very mixed cultural/economic neighborhood, have been in the Bay Area for 15 years and am a homeowner. I lived in SF for about 11 years, got priced out when my girlfriend and I went to move and found it was cheaper to buy in Berkeley than rent in SF (this was true for a brief period in 2011-2012). I work in energy and climate policy and was a journalist in Colorado before that. I'm getting more active in some of the Berkeley development battles; there's what appears to be a clear generational divide between many of us who are newer/younger homeowners (I'm in my 40s) and the older set who seem to not want any growth at all.

I come at the housing issue from three directions - first, I chose my profession out of a concern for climate change and the environment, and I know that sprawl is a leading cause of the problem. So, I'm all for in-fill development, upzoning, re-development of underused lots etc. If it's urban, it should have more housing and mixed-use, period - especially when there's already transit in place, and when it can be walkable/bikable (I ride my bike everywhere).

Second, I'm troubled by the growing inequity in housing and the related economic stratification that's being caused by high rents and lack of access to housing.

Finally, I'm a reform-minded capitalist, have a sense of how markets work, and believe strongly that supply and demand are real, actual things that determine prices. I'm all for affordable housing impact fees and deed restrictions and so forth; but clearly, those mechanisms fall far short of the need.

Full disclosure: My home value has gone up quite a lot since I bought it; frankly, I don't give a shit as I don't have any plans to ever sell the place. I wish my neighborhood, which is mixed multi-family/single family, had more commercial/residential projects; it could certainly handle more multi-family and higher-rise buildings. Shadows don't bother me, nor does competition for parking, nor do people who don't share my skin color/accent/language/economic status.

Happy to be here and to finally have a place to do battle against the NIMBYs.

I'm a consultant and specialize in strategy and communications on big policy/political campaigns and issue advocacy, so sign me up - business waxes and wanes so I can't always be heavily involved, but happy to cause trouble and support however I can.

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[Steve R]

I'm Steve. I'm a city planner.

I'm excited to work for good.

I think cities are incredible engines for making social and economic opportunity, and that access to them shouldn't be limited.

Nice to meet you.

[agbe...@ucdavis.edu]

Hi All,

I realize I'm late to this thread, but I figure I might as well put my name out there. My name is Andrew Benson. I live in Sacramento and I am originally from San Diego. You might be wondering why I care about the cost of living in San Francisco. Well, the answer is that I'm simply a concerned citizen - I care about a lot of different political issues, and this interests me since it so directly impacts the lives of a lot of my friends:

I attended UC Davis (graduated in 2013) and met a lot of people from the Bay Area as a result. I was exposed to this issue from hearing their horror stories about the cost of living, and the more I learned, the angrier I became. I majored in economics (and political science) in college, so it's pretty self-evident to me that the Bay Area's crisis of housing affordability is the result of supply not being allowed to meet demand.

Anyhow, since I live in Sacramento, I probably won't be able to attend many events, unless you need people to attend an event in/near the State Legislature. I would be very eager to help out any way I can in Sacramento. I don't work in the legislature (I work for a state agency), but I had an internship for an assemblyman once, so I know my way around the capitol building. In any case, I do what I can to spread the word about SFBARF to my friends in/from the Bay Area.

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[Armand Domalewski]

Sonja actually is doing more state level stuff now, so you could be a big help!

Also Sactown definitely could use more density too. :)

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[tinyhac...@gmail.com]

Hi All, Excited to join this group, So I'm a Hacker, Maker, currently working on a TinyHackerHouse. I've been working in community development for the past 5 years, producing, organizing and coordinating entrepreneurial events in Socal specifically Makerfaires and Hackathons. 

I recently moved to Norcal working on building my first TinyHackerHouse here, I have a printable 3dmodel which can be built and assembled in less than a month. My current challenges are: 

Getting approval for zoning and permit requirements and finding a place to put it. The dimensions are width 10' x length 16' x height 13' but can be adjusted

This is a prototype, but in the future would like to drive down costs to provide affordable housing kits for homeless to build there own.

Doing Kickstarter campaign to raise funds.

If anyone has experience in this area or would like to help, please message me and I will respond at my earliest convenience.

Looking forward to changing a life and making a difference. :o)

Anil

[Starchild]

Hi Anil,

Welcome to the group! Your project sounds really excellent! 

Please let us know how we can help. Here are a couple ideas for starters...

While you're trying to jump through the government's various hoops that are set up to maintain the power of those who make the rules while keeping poor people dependent on the streets, how about putting the TinyHackerHouse out on public property someplace for someone to use in the meantime? Could it be put on wheels? Then if you're told it can't be somewhere, the TinyHackerHouse could be readily moved to another location.

Another idea:  Could it be outfitted to use key cards like the ones used in hotels, and people allowed to use it for, say, a month at a time? So you could give somebody a key card good for a month, at the end of which time they'd know their card would stop working, and you'd give a card useable for the next month to someone else to move in. With several of these houses, each with a sign-up sheet allowing homeless people to reserve a month for themselves sometime during the next couple years, you could quickly build a "constituency" of dozens of people. Because they would stand to lose a month of rent-free living, they would have "skin in the game" and an incentive to speak out on behalf of the project. Along with SFBARF activists, this political base could be mobilized to go and lobby for the TinyHackerHouses to be made legal and given places to live. 

Another idea:  Could they be made to float? Putting them on water somewhere might conceivably run into fewer legal roadblocks in some cases than putting them on land.  If a bunch of TinyHackerHouses showed up in the same place at once, with people to live in them and protest any attempts at removal, removal could become both logistically and politically difficult.

Love & Liberty,

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Further thought regarding my final paragraph below -- could TinyHackerHouses be made to somehow interlock, kind of like giant puzzle pieces or Lego bricks? This could also make a group of them more difficult to remove.

Love & Liberty,

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[Rachel]

My name is Rachel. I just moved to the Bay Area from LA a week and a half ago. I left because of salary stagnation and the lack of jobs in technology and (gasp) entertainment. I left sans-job and I received an offer a week into moving. Pay is better here but the housing is at West LA prices with one major difference: there are no cheaper areas without a feasible commute. Thankfully, I don't take up much space but I worry that my $2K limit will be a problem in the near future given there is no rent control that I can see in this area. Wish me luck.

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I forgot to mention where I live. I work in Sunnyvale and hope to find a place in Mountain View, Palo Alto or Menlo Park. I want to be within a comfortable distance from SF so I can attend after work events and just hang out there on weekends. I'm currently crashing with a friend on the Peninsula.

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[Jason Quigley]

Greetings, I'm a Mechanical Engineer from Ireland working in in the construction industry here(designing air conditioning systems...). Obviously, more construction does indirectly benefit me, but more importantly, I really want to have cheaper rent!

Here's hoping for a housing crash...

[Ken J]

Hi all! I'm a Portlander but I closely follow the Bay Area's housing situation because there are similar crisis, and similar short sighted reactions to them, playing out here. I'm interested in learning from your experiences and picking up some tactics for combating the obstructionists up here. I look at groups like Stop Demolishing Portland, and I can see a future where Portland's housing market looks a lot more like SF's if they aren't stopped. They're just one facet of a vocal set of activists who seem to care only for the incumbent residents, and would damn both newcomers and future generations of natives, as long as it means cheaper rent for the people here today.

[Katherine Hans Von Rotes schild Zitler]

Ken welcome, in Portland are there environmental groups involved with the obstructionist?

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(Specifically, people with absolutely no history of environmental activism who suddenly have a change of heart and become fierce advocates as soon as doing so coincides with blocking the construction of a building that might lead to parking-space competition.)

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[Chris Mason]

Hi Folks,

I'm actually an evil real estate insider, as a local residential mortgage guy, and I saw the big article that is making you folks blow up. As a mortgage person I only work on one side of transactions, the buyers' side. So I dislike the "homevoter" / NIMBY / anti-development phenomenon and would love it if it wasn't such a seller's market in our area, because I only work for buyers and only represent those interests. To be as transparent as I can be, frankly my material interests are aligned with your political objectives of "build more, increase supply, let the rest work itself out." Yes, please build more, or my buyers don't have anything to actually buy!

I have no idea if I can be helpful or really contribute anything relevant, but wanted to introduce myself.

Cheers,

Chris

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There's a few but largely the (genuine) environmentalists support building higher and denser in the city in order to preserve the hinterlands. Portland/Oregon land use politics has a healthy urbanist thread and puts value on careful land use planning, and actually following through on those plans for the most part.

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Ken welcome, in Portland are there environmental groups involved with the obstructionist?

There are tons and tons of people who raise hell about loss of street parking. I haven't noticed many who make insincere environmentalist attacks against development to protect their interests though. They're usually quite blunt in the reasons for their discontent with new development, and the arguments employed against it and concessions demanded. 
 

[Ken J]

For example, 1000 Friends of Oregon is one of the more venerable, and powerful, environmental groups in the area, and is extremely pro density. https://www.friends.org/

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[Cameron Newland]

Hey all,

I'm Cameron Newland, and I moved to San Francisco in 2015 from Los Angeles (which also has a NIMBY problem!). Having lived in lower-cost cities like Seattle as well as high-cost cities like London and San Francisco, I believe that cities need to build more much-needed housing so as to keep housing costs under control and make cities inclusive and vibrant. When my girlfriend and I moved to San Francisco, our rent for our one bedroom apartment was more than twice as much as our rent in Los Angeles' Westwood neighborhood. My girlfriend and I are professionals, so we can afford to pay high rents in San Francisco, however, I cringe when I think about how unaffordable our city is to low-income renters as well as middle-class people like me, who are unable to save for a down payment on a home because rent takes up such a large portion of my after-tax income.

I'm interested in hearing about events and opportunities for public advocacy. I'd like to be an agent of change and help San Francisco realize that growth isn't such a bad thing!

[Donald Dewsnup]

Hello Cameron,

Thank you for declaring your housing activism.

I would be happy to meet over coffee and share with you SFBARF accomplishments and update on the current YIMBY activities.

Please visit www.sfyimby.org as well and check out our political platform.

Welcome, Aboard Cameron!!!

D 

[Adina Levin]

Rachel have you found a place? happy to connect to Peninsula Yimby folk if you're interested

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I forgot to mention where I live. I work in Sunnyvale and hope to find a place in Mountain View, Palo Alto or Menlo Park. I want to be within a comfortable distance from SF so I can attend after work events and just hang out there on weekends. I'm currently crashing with a friend on the Peninsula.

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Santa Clara needs lots of help! there are some important things coming up in the next few weeks.

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[Caroline Bas]

Hi all!

I'm Caroline Bas, I have lived in San Francisco for the last 10 years but grew up in the East Bay (Hayward to be precise). To me the importance of building goes beyond just affordability in San Francisco to the Bay Area as a whole. It breaks my heart to see markets that were once accessible to first time home buyers on middle class incomes (like Hayward) start to become unattainable for anyone that doesn't have 2 incomes from high paying jobs. As we push people farther and farther out from where jobs are located, commute times skyrocket at the expense of happiness and time with young children.

I work in management consulting and am married so I am fortunate to still be able to participate in this market if I chose to (which I don't) but I'm sick with worry that so many of my peers cannot and will not.

The little thing that I can do is help the movement of building anything, anywhere, as soon as possible. Sign me up!

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Hi folks,

Thanks for this forum and the movement. I moved to SF over a year ago to work at a local university. Although I love my job, needless to say, the salary makes living here difficult. Renting has been excruciating and I pay around 50% of my net salary to rent for a very unimpressive studio.

In any case, I've been involved in economic development initiatives in other US cities and also globally. The housing issue is really interesting and would love to attend meetings and get to know others that have a passion for these sorts of issues.

One issue I'd like some responses to: rent control.

Can anyone point me to some studies/articles on this issue - and of course discuss in the forum. I'm curious of what percentage of SF housing is under rent-control and the percentage of tenants over specific timeframes (say, 10 plus years). Then, of course, the pros and cons of rent control. How much does rent control affect the supply of housing, how important is rent control to ensure lower income families can afford living costs, and are their alternatives (such as rent stabilization, income-based rent control, something else)?

I cant say that i'm for or against rent-control. Philosophically, I understand and respect these measures. On the other hand, from someone who recently moved here and is struggling because of housing prices, i find myself conflicted and curious.

Many thanks,

Neal

[Aaron Goldfein]

On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 7:53:30 PM UTC-7, Neal A. Harrison wrote:

Can anyone point me to some studies/articles on this issue - and of course discuss in the forum. I'm curious of what percentage of SF housing is under rent-control and the percentage of tenants over specific timeframes (say, 10 plus years). Then, of course, the pros and cons of rent control. How much does rent control affect the supply of housing, how important is rent control to ensure lower income families can afford living costs, and are their alternatives (such as rent stabilization, income-based rent control, something else)?

I cant say that i'm for or against rent-control. Philosophically, I understand and respect these measures. On the other hand, from someone who recently moved here and is struggling because of housing prices, i find myself conflicted and curious.

As far as I know SFBARF has never taken any position on rent control. San Francisco's rent control is relatively harmless because A. it exempts all new construction and B. it only limits rent increases, not initial rates. Therefore, rent control in San Francisco doesn't really control the prices of units other than requiring that controlled units must charge more now and less later, rather than being able to increase at a rate more commensurate to inflation and market conditions .The main problem in the bay area is definitely the difficulty in building new units, not rent control on the existing stock.

Nevertheless, the expert consensus opposing rent control is overwhelming. Rent control promotes the inefficient usage of housing because people don't have to pay the true cost of housing. The classic example of this is the grandma whose kids have moved away and husband has died, but remains in her 3 bedroom home anyway because rent control has made the cost of the unit for her far below market rate. She could actually pay more in rent if she moved to a smaller, more appropriately sized apartment. On the other hand, you can have a young childless couple who anticipates having kids in the future. Not wanting to have to give up the massive benefits from staying a rent controlled apartment for a long time, they therefore rent an apartment which is too large for them now in anticipation of needing that space years in the future. In the absence of rent control, they would live in a smaller apartment and then move to the larger one later when they had kids and actually needed the space.

Rent control also makes it harder to tear down old buildings and put up new ones because it is very difficult to get rid of the tenants. And if you are planning to tear down your building and a tenant leaves voluntarily, it encourages the landlord not to re-rent this unit because getting rid of a new tenant is very difficult. Rent control also magnifies price increases because the incentive of the price increase to conserve housing only applies to tenants looking for new homes, not ones with existing tenancies.

There are a lot of reasons to oppose rent control and I could go on listing more.

Now to actually answer your questions. Rent control doesn't really affect the supply of housing, except in the sense that it's harder to tear down rent controlled buildings and replace them with larger structures. It also promotes inefficient use of housing, but it doesn't really have much effect on supply.

Rent control, at least once the policy has been in place for a while (like it has in San Francisco) does not help families to afford rent. All it does is shift more of the rent to the first few years of a tenancy and away from the last few years. Then it raises prices overall because of the inefficiencies it causes.

Rent stabilization is basically what we have. The term, like rent control, is a bit ambiguous and refers to a variety of policies, but they are all broadly similar and are all terrible policy decisions.

Income based rent control also can mean different things. If you mean having a unit only be rent controlled if it is rented to a low income tenant and not rent controlled otherwise, then you are encouraging landlords not to rent to low income tenants. Also San Francisco-style rent control doesn't make the units cheaper on average so targeting it towards specific income groups makes no sense. It's just a regulation on how rental payments must be structured.

Still, I think it's worth focusing effort more on promoting building and not on rent control for a few reasons:

1. Building a lot more units would have a much greater effect on housing prices than abolishing rent control

2. Rent control has some pretty obvious beneficiaries who inspire sympathy will fight any changes tooth-and-nail  (though this could be resolved by exempting current tenancies)

3. People tend to naturally think rent control brings prices down, while almost nobody thinks that blocking new construction brings prices down (well, maybe some mission moratorium supporters...)

[Mike Schiraldi]

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If you mean having a unit only be rent controlled if it is rented to a low income tenant and not rent controlled otherwise, then you are encouraging landlords not to rent to low income tenants.

That's only true if we continue making the cost of rent control something borne entirely by the landlord of the unit in question. If we instead had the city pay for the rent difference, and then reimburse itself by equally taxing every landlord in the city exactly enough to offset the total cost of the program, then it would make no financial difference to a landlord whether a given unit was being rented at market rate or to someone who qualified for a discount.

I do agree with you that, in economic terms, the impact of rent control on market-rate housing prices is miniscule compared to the impact of underbuilding. However, there's one more effect of rent control that you haven't mentioned: It insulates voters from the impacts of the city's underbuilding policies. Limiting rent control to households that actually need it wouldn't have much direct impact on housing prices, but it would cause a huge upswing in voter support for increasing the housing supply, and *that* would have a huge impact on housing prices.

[Gopi Mattel]

Hi,

this is Gopi Mattel living on the Half Moon Bay coast-side.  MidPen is trying to create some affordable housing in Moss Beach and the residents are up in arms against it. I would very much like to help people working on the coastside to be able to live on the coastside. 

I found this site through 'Next City' and am interested in seeing if I can raise the need for support on the coast-side to others here.  There is a MidPen meeting on July 11th, where this organization www.resistdensity.org is expecting to make a big showing.

Regards 

Gopi

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Hi All,

I'm Isabella Chu, Founder of Redwood City Forward (facebook.com/redwoodcityforward). RWC has been really trying to increase the housing supply (our City Council is actually pretty awesome) but they hear unrelenting complaints from a small, but very vocal group that is resistant to any change/development/etc. They (our City Council) could use support and encouragement as they continue to do the right thing and approve housing. This is a regional problem and we need every city to step up.

There is a big, nice looking (hey, it matters) project with 350 (!!!) units and 10% BMR proposed for downtown RWC (plus funding for H4H). This project is close to transit, shops and restaurants. It could use less parking and more apartments, but we can't have everything. If you work in the valley and have been thinking about moving closer to work, please write cou...@redwoodcity.org and let them know you're tired of causing traffic and want a nice place to live. Maybe if you're in an especially good mood, you can mention that this project would be even BETTER if they swapped out some of that parking for more units.

Article about the project here: http://www.smdailyjournal.com/articles/lnews/2016-07-06/big-project-under-review-redwood-city-housing-proposal-in-early-planning-stages/1776425164602.html

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Hi, I'm a reporter for The Tab, writing an article about the SF housing crisis, and was directed here by Ms. Clark from GrowSF. Is there anyone here that has been affected by the crisis that wouldn't mind sacrificing a few minutes of their time for an interview?

[da...@growwithbamboo.com]

Hi all,

Danny Sauter here. North Beach resident, and co-founder of an advertising agency in San Francisco.

I'm relatively new to this, but had the chance to canvas with Milo and Sonja the other week and really enjoyed it. Look forward to meeting some of you and working together as the election grows closer.

Finally, a shameless plug - I run a project called SF Do Something. It's an e-mail that goes out once a week and has a specific action you can take to support a project that supports more housing, better transit, or more open space. For example, this week our e-mail highlighted the Stockton Street project and pointed members to a petition to sign. Would love to have you there: http://sfdosomething.com/

[gomez...@gmail.com]

Hello,

As I've mentioned before, I am a reporter for The Tab and have been working on an article about the SF housing crisis. I would just like to thank Mr. Schiraldi, who agreed to be interviewed for this piece, and hope this article does the issue justice. The link to the article is here: http://thetab.com/us/2016/08/17/on-the-frontline-of-san-franciscos-housing-crisis-39034?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=post_published_0

Best,
Abraham Gomez

[Danny Sauter]

Thanks for sharing, Abraham.

The image you included in the article is a bit misleading from what I can tell. I believe that's a hospital going up (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/12/cpmcs-cathedral-hill-hospital-about-to-top-out.html)

Apartment buildings of that size are, unfortunately, very rare to find being built.

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Hi everyone!

I moved to Oakland in January for a job at a non-profit think tank and with a lot of my organization's work involving economics, the housing shortage in the Bay Area fascinates and frustrates me. The idea that increasing supply will benefit all in various ways is so devastatingly simple that I can't believe it's not already happening here.

I hope to attend BARF meet-upswhen I can, be a body for gatherings and city council meetings, and write in my support on different measures when needed. Glad to be here!

[Milo Trauss]

Welcome aboard!  

If you'd like to dive right in we're meeting at 701 Cole St. in SF to canvass this Sunday from 2-4pm 

you can also sign up to come out next week here 

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I'm actually here to get an idea about what works (and what doesn't) for a YIMBY group, but don't live in the Bay Area. I live in Bend, Oregon, after a "near miss" with Boulder, Colorado ( https://journal.dedasys.com/2015/06/18/boulder-colorado-vs-bend-oregon/ ) , which has captured a lot of the good things from Silicon Valley - along with the high house prices. We moved back to the US from Italy, where housing and cities are very different.

Bend is still "up and coming", but, being a nice place to live, it has its own housing issues, and I'd really like to see it not become like Boulder in terms of a local "landed gentry" being served by people commuting in from nearby towns.

With that in mind, I put together https://bendyimby.com/ - which is still not ready to share widely. Indeed, if you have any suggestions for it, they'd be more than welcome. I'd like to kick it off in time to have some small influence on the local city council elections in November. Other than that, I'm just a lurker trying to get some ideas for improving things up here.

Thank you!

[Andrew Ho]

Hi all,

I recently moved to Berkeley.

I'm interested in affordable housing, but broadly primarily interested in urban planning / transit solutions / car- and parking-related law reform as well as promotion of mixed used zoning.

Curious to know how I can help the cause. I'm good at writing.

Best,

Andrew

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[Ian Monroe]

Hey Andrew,

East Bay Forward is active in Oakland and Berkeley. Sign up for our mailing list at http://www.eastbayforward.org/ and check out http://www.eastbayforward.org/calendar/ for events going on.

Thanks,

Ian

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[Victoria Fierce]

Yeah hey we've got a big project going to ZAB tonight if you can make
it. Someone who compared new buildings to sexual assault will be trying
to defend their words. If you can make it we can get you hooked up with
the deets.

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[Andrew Ho]

I could potentially make it, although I don't have much in-depth domain-specific expertise here (after all, I haven't even been in the Bay Area for very long!) -- what kind of contribution do you think I could feasibly make?

I saw that article a day or two ago. "Torturing logic" indeed :-).

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[Victoria Fierce]

There's a bunch of EBFers showing up tonight. If you find one of them they can help coach you a bit. In general though, every bit of support helps. Every person who speaks up for housing pops another hole in the berkeley NIMBY arguments that we don't want more housing.

Doesn't need to be an elaborate or even well thought out speech (though it helps!).

Luckily enough, this particular project has an AMAZING website with ALL THE BEST TALKING POINTS:

http://2902adeline.com/

Seriously, check it out. Its amazing and I wish every new housing development included something like this.

Things to point out:

* It uses the density bonus

* It includes 6 affordable units, which is 6 more units than are there currently

* It displaces *nobody*

* The developer has done a lot of outreach

* It looks pretty sweet

* More housing is better than less housing

* Who doesn't want more neighbors huh?

* Transit oriented development!

[Steve Rosen]

I've had luck (and fun) shaming NIMBYs at these meetings. Just ask them why they think that poor people's children don't belong in schools with their children, why poor and young people should be condemned to drive three hours to and from Modesto every morning and evening, and why they therefore don't deserve to spend as much time with their children as the NIMBYs, how the NIMBYs can call themselves environmentalists when they want all housing sprawl into the central valley, why protecting the already-inflated resale prices of their property is more important that real people's quality of life, etc. 

I just love it. It's a chance to call them out and shame them for being exclusionary, racist, greedy assholes in real life in front of a live audience.

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[Michael Goff]

I'm new to San Francisco but not new to the politics of housing.  Excessive regulation and NIMBYism is a problem all over the world and I want to do what I can to overcome these obstacles and build the housing-abundant utopia that is our birthright.

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[Kyle Borland]

My name is Kyle Borland, a Bay Area transplant by way of the Deep South. I've been following the Bay Area's housing discussion from a distance through traditional and social media since moving here in Fall 2015, occasionally adding my two cents to the mix, and thought it was time to get more actively involved. As we're learning over and over again, everything is connected and providing adequate access to shelter for our fellow man is fundamental to our role as human beings. Looking forward to the discussion and, more importantly, future action! - KGB 

[Luke R.]

Hi all. I just moved to SF in Fall 2016. Grew up in Portland before school, earned a bachelors and masters in Accounting, and now work in public accounting. I've followed BARF and other housing advocate organizations for awhile, and I would like to be a little more proactive about the issue. I would also love to be around more people who want to actively improve the Bay, as my current roommates/friends are generally indifferent about political issues. 

[Thomas Powers]

Hi folks,

My name is Tom Powers, and I just moved to San Francisco a few months ago for a new job at a financial services firm. I am an economist by training, and feel that increasing supply is the only real way to solve the Bay Area's housing crunch. I live and work in the city, and I'm interested in getting involved.

Thanks,

Tom

[arthu...@gmail.com]

I am Arthur Pritchard. My main interest is facing the ethical issues of the tent cities here...and providing toilets to them, as well as free power...is there a blog for my interests...we need an effective mayor like mike Bloomberg who proved how to manage a city...san Francisco is a disaster due to complete lack of advanced thinking...
arthu...@gmail.com please

[Matthew Palm]

My name is Matt Palm.  I have a PhD in Geography from UC Davis, I wrote a dissertation on integrating affordable housing and sustainable transport in California.  I advocate for new housing and tenants protections in Davis, CA, where I live.  I conduct research on affordable housing topics and issues.  Hoping to be involved in a Greater Sacramento BARF.

[Kieryn Darkwater]

Hi everyone!

I'm Kieryn Darkwater, and I'm an East Bay YIMBY. Mostly here to lurk right now because I am buried under planning YIMBYtown (registration is still open, come hangout with other YIMBYs in Oakland!) but look forward to being more actively part of this when I can think about literally anything else besides conference planning. Fun fact: when I'm not advocating for housing or accountability in home education, I write about Christofascism for Autostraddle. 

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hi all my name is bobby i was a former resident of san francisco since 1989 but i actually lived in state of calif since 1985 i lived in the state for 16 years and i am almost about to become 60 years old not yet i am turning 58 oct 15th and i am going to see if i can explain the the situation that happened to me here. and to give you a better idea what i went through. for the last 16 years years living in san francisco was okay but then all hell broke loose, and it was because the rents were going sky rocketing up to high its about like 4-5 times more then what people earn at work more than that now residents are thinking of leaving the bay area and san francisco alot have already moved to nevada,arizona to phoenix, and new mexico, other states because rent to far to high its horrible, soon cities will become a ghost town, and deserted i know this and it will happen, i had to live in a hotel on south of market street called the national hotel on 1139 market st that was 1989 now its gone its not there anymore. it was mostly people who are part of san francico gay community near the castro district, i lived there on my ssi check at that time and i am hard of hearing. and now i dont get ssi anymore i got my fathers retirement and his medicare since he retired from the army and he passed away and i got that from fed goverment, i am grateful for it, but problem is i no family alive now all have deceased, i am the last one living now . and i was planning to move back to california because i would get more money on my income then where i am now most other states are to low in income. san francisco was the only city that would enable me to be openly gay as i am a gay person myself and can feel like i dont feel caged or trapped in the closet,

but i have to say this the high rents are scaring away people soon city of san francisco will lose all of thier people and residents too in a way i can see it happening, and its becoming distracting and less interesting and i love san francisco its my place to be i miss it alot and i dont forget life there i loved it every bit of it. the weather the bay and everything in it was there for me, i was planning to try getting into job there with entry level training job and get paid while doing that and get real good pay to afford a home with that now i want my voice to be heard to other agencies and to san francisco renters federation and anyone else in the city who will listen my heart is still in san francisco always has been my life was there for all those 16 years and never lost a moment of anything. my heart desires to come back to the city to california where i can do the things i wanted to do how in this wide world can i do that i have a hearing that barks when someone knocks on door so i could never abandon her. and i could not abandon SF bay area same way whom could talk with me further and how my message here could be relayed to someone on this discussion or somewhere not sure if anyone could email me or if i can get a reply here at this site either one i see my email up here above this box my many many thanks to all of you. this is what i normally say to people long live san francisco.

[Nathanael Johnson]

Hey I'm Nate - Berkeley native, homeowner, journalist. I write for the environmental site Grist.org and I'm working on a piece about YIMBYs

[Armand Domalewski]

That's dope! Have you talked to some of the Berkeley YIMBYs like Diego?

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A couple, not Diego

Nathanael Johnson
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[chid...@gmail.com]

Hey all - is this still an active forum? Anyway, i heard about this movement on NPRs planet money podcast episode 856 and was hooked! I'm a resident of oakland and fully agree with getting more housing built - it just makes sense. I want to do my best to help out the cause, let's do this!

Andres

[Milo Trauss]

Hi Andres,

That’s great! welcome, I live in Oakland too.

To answer your question, no. This list isn’t so active anymore. Most of the action has migrated to the slack channels for East Bay For Everyone in the East Bay, and YIMBY Action in SF and the Peninsula. You get access to them after you join. Also I invite you get involved directly in Sonja’s campaign! Her next volunteer activity is phone/text banking tomorrow, and a bar crawl on Friday

i’d be happy to get coffee or a drink sometime if you at an event before. 

Best,

Milo

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[Starchild]

Some of us are still here and interested in discussing YIMBY politics via email!

Love & Liberty,

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[aishwarya goel]

Hi everyone,

I am Aishwarya Goel from India. I am a global startup sales consultant. I help B2B focussed global startups to expand in India by providing outsourced sales services. I have previously worked with Singapore and Silicon Valley-based startups to set up their India business in less than half of their sales team cost. Also, helped them to devise the market-entry strategy, access to large enterprises at the CXO level, pricing strategy, etc. Would love to help & collaborate with startups.