Traffic calming included in Order 203 Forest Ave. UPI project?

[Christian MilNeil]

Hi Emily,

I saw a MaineDOT project agreement for outer Forest Ave. on the City Council's agenda. 

I think I've expressed this before, but I wish we could get more information from Augusta and the city about how these significant capital expenditures will support the city's Vision Zero goals, as well as mode shift goals under the One Climate Future plan. 

Will this project include any traffic-calming improvements? Will it implement any transit priority elements, like inline boarding islands or queue-jump lanes at signals for Metro's Route 2 bus? Will it reduce the city's long-term plowing and maintenance costs by converting asphalt into wider sidewalks and median safety islands? Will it include new "green infrastructure" elements to reduce stormwater costs and the risks of flooding and heat stroke? 

Continuing to spend millions of dollars re-paving streets that are already a severe safety liability (and that MaineDOT can't afford to maintain) is irresponsible. We should be holding these projects to higher standards of accountability before the City Council signs these agreements. 

Thanks for your work on this.

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Does anyone know about the proposed extension to parking fees? *I've heard* that the City Manager's proposed budget includes extending the hours to 7pm weekdays and Saturdays, and include Sunday 10a-4p. It sounds terrific, and I'd love to learn more. This has been on PBPAC's list at some point, not sure if it still were.

Thanks!

Alex

[James Cradock]

Parking fees are regressive. Why is extending hours and adding Sundays good? 

Thank you. 

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[Scsmedia]

Your description of the proposal is correct.  This has flown under the radar.

I agree with James. 

Adding staff to police Sunday and holiday parking makes no sense.  They will be paying them holiday pay to do the work.  Although I see people put money into meters on Sundays, we should be encouraging people to come downtown even if they are doing it in private vehicles.

This will kill the Sunday food and beverage scene.

Also Sundays still has terrible bus service.  Until that is fixed, we should not be changing this.

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[Rauschpfeife]

Nearly all prices and taxes are regressive (or at least nonprogressive). Property tax, sales tax, liquor tax, gas tax, rent, a dozen eggs, electricity... income tax is, in fact, just about the only exception.

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[Rauschpfeife]

I suppose I'm approaching this from the opposite angle. I don't understand why there's any free parking *at all*. 

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[Winston Lumpkins]

Currently, we don't charge for parking during the times it's most in demand, which just doesn't make sense to me at all. 

We did send a letter advocating for more or less these exact reforms a few years ago. 

You don't really have to enforce it often: the idea is to get money from tourists to support the systems they use while here. 

Currently, if you want to go out to dinner, there's no available street parking because it's free after 6.  This would make it a lot more accessible, as it would encourage people to not park on the street all night starting at 6. The status quo, of not charging during the highest demand times, also means while downtown is busy more people are cruising around looking for parking- getting distracted and putting people at risk. 

I think the ideal, from the book "the high cost lf free parking" was something like you cjarge a high enough cost for street parking that it's 85% occupied: that cuts down on frustrated unsafe driving while looking for parjing that's not there, and allows people who can't park in a garage for accessiblity reasons to park on the street.  It also reduces emmsions from cruising.

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[James Cradock]

Thanks everybody. 

As far as regressive fees, I was thinking about flat fees, like for parking, less about consumption fees. 

GPMetro current Sunday service, particularly for crosstown use, like if someone or some family living in Deering Center wants to go downtown, go to the PMA, window shop, actually shop, ends I would say early: 

#1 is done by 6:35 PM
#2 is done by 4:15 PM
#3 is done by 6 PM
#4 is done by 7:40 PM
#5 is done by 6:40 PM
#7 is done by 7:40 PM
#8 is done by 4:17 PM
#9a is done by 4:25 PM
#9b is done by 5:10 PM

It would be better to frame parking fees including changes by encouraging people to do a thing (take mass transit downtown, bike/walk/scoot if able and feel comfortable doing so) rather than discouraging people from doing the thing. 

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[James Cradock]

This is useful: 

https://content.civicplus.com/api/assets/me-portland/4199cf73-7214-4896-b21b-9e992fb73d5d/portland-parking-study-final-report.pdf

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[Scsmedia]

This 2017 Parking Study is interesting, but a lot has changed in the last nine years not anticipated in the study.

The CAT left Portland

Covid

Homeless explosion in Portland

Inclusionary Zoning killing large development

After the CAT left in 2018 the city temporarily converted the waterfront queuing area to day parking.  That has been extended two years, but the building of a new park is now promised to be moving forward this summer.  That will take significant parking inventory out of this waterfront area.  An additional lot has been built out leaving just a small parking lot that is managed by two differnt entities who charge different rates.  58 Fore Street has a new parking lot, but it gets little public use.  They have also turned most of their surface lot into a construction site.

Downtown Portland has grown significantly and the growth would be much higher if not for inclusionary zoning killing most large projects.  Folks who live downtown don't need cars to get to downtown.  Most of them probably keep them parked most of the week and use them for excursions outside the city.  Transit is not going to work for that use.

Some of the recomendations from the study.

We have gone even further in eliminating parking requirements.

This needs to be one of priorities in future years.  Route 8 needs to bi directional and the route cleaned up.  It take almost an hour for what should be no more than half an hour.  But separately, we need to find the resources to fund a commercial street circulator.  We have an underused parking lot on the west end that could provide useful if only people felt there was reliable access to it.

I did not know that there was a final design for Franklin Street 10 years ago.  Nine years later we are still trying to get some movement on it.

Some random notes.

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[Christian MilNeil]

I appreciate Steven, our devoted Stalinist, for bringing the radical perspective that we should be giving away taxpayer-subsidized, government-owned land for free to anyone who wants it.

But if I could bring a dose of pragmatism here, there are considerable downsides to our communist land policy for motor vehicle parking. 

Free parking is not free to taxpayers: the city spends millions of dollars a year on streets and the motorists who use them don't come anywhere near to paying for those expenses. That means that state and local taxpayers are subsidizing traffic congestion (and the traffic violence that inevitably comes with it) by subsidizing free parking and free roadways. And these subsidies are orders of magnitude larger than our subsidies for other transportation options, like Metro. 

Also remember that car-owning households in Portland are considerably wealthier than car-free households: about a quarter of the city's renters live in car-free households, versus about 5 percent of the city's (wealthier) homeowners. Car owners are already paying roughly $10K a year on car payments, insurance, gas, and other expenses, so asking them to spend $2 more dollars to rent space in the Old Port 'til 7 pm isn't really an unreasonable expectations. 

Now, I understand that some of our Comrades feel deep empathy for the out-of-town visitors who need an affordable place to park while they go out for $15 cocktails. But finding parking in the Old Port at 6 pm these days is a lot like finding bread in a Soviet supermarket. Charging for parking will encourage drivers who don't really need to park downtown to move their cars, or better still, to not drive at all and walk or take the bus instead. This policy will make it considerably *easier* for people to find an empty parking space. 

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[James Cradock]

If there are plans to extend and make more frequent bus service on Sundays, that would be great. 

IZ is off-topic for the list I think, comrades. 

Thank you. 

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[Zack Barowitz]

Someone mentioned the egg tax earlier. Aldi sells eggs for $1.66. 

Iit is a hike to get there from downtown, but there is a bus. 

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[Rauschpfeife]

I don't think I understand why paying for parking is not a "consumption fee" -- a phrase which is surely synonymous with "price"? 

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[James Cradock]

Yes, on-street parking fees are a consumption fee. $2 or $4 takes a bigger bite from someone with a household income of $52K than it does from someone with a household income of $104K. 

The older report I read makes a case for why extending paid on-street parking Mon-Sat past 6 is probably a good idea. Bus service isn't good on Sundays. 

Thank you. 

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[Zack Barowitz]

What about congestion parking, that’s a thing right? But maybe a little too 21st Century for Portland?

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[Rauschpfeife]

Too technically difficult, no doubt. Our city bureaucracy claims that it doesn't have the know-how even to change stoplight timings. 

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[Rauschpfeife]

As does a $5 Big Mac. 

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[Maya Lena]

I appreciate the discussion around these and I do understand the points that Christian is raising. I would, however, like to offer a more "suburban" perspective as an off-peninsula resident, who lives on a bus line. My house is approximately 3 miles from downtown if you take the most direct route, and it is within the City of Portland. My house is 0.2 miles from the #4 bus stop (very close!).

I also hope you all know that I am a Bike/Bus/Pedestrian advocate and wish that I did not rely on my car nearly as much as I do.

Until Portland can offer a more reliable, predecible and frequent Public Transit option, increasing parking fees and/or extending parking hours will only hurt businesses. It will not encourage people who own cars, but live outside of the city to take the bus. It will be yet another deterrent for people wanting to access downtown for recreation or dining purposes. Parking everywhere else in Portland (and its neighboring towns) is "free", so the choice will be easy - don't go downtown. Penalizing individuals or businesses for poor public transit planning is not progressive. 

My family owns an electric cargo bike. Our kids are now too large to ride in it together, but too young to safely bike independently to/from downtown in the dark, given the road conditions in Portland, distracted drivers, and the large pickup trucks and SUVs on the road today (Yes, I drive one of these said large SUVs). It's easy for someone who lives lives less than 0.5 miles from the heart of the Old Port to say, "Just walk!" "Take the bus!" "People who own cars are the worst!"

Let's focus our energy on getting the BRT up and running ASAP, and show Portland and the rest of Maine that we can have reliable and frequent public transit like the rest of the country/world. Curitiba Brazil has had Bus Rapid Transit since 1974.

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[Rauschpfeife]

I'm sure everybody reading this will agree that transit service should be better. 

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[James Cradock]

Bus service could be more robust on Sundays. 

People who want to go downtown on a Sunday, to visit the Museum, the Old Port, whatever, to make a day of it will find a way to do it. 

Thank you. 

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[Scsmedia]

FYI, The City Council Finance Committee, as part of the parking division budget review, had a short presentation on Thursday on meter changes, 6 to 7 pm and Sundays.  (they would keep holidays free, would have to staff meter maids at double or triple time otherwise).

The three councilors on the committee (Fournier, Grant & Pellitier) enthusiastically supported the idea.  I don't remember if the mayor weighed in.  They are going to get hit by a barrage of emails, etc. from businesses, restaurants and church folks.

I will repeat myself, it is a dumb idea and very business unfriendly.

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[Chaning C]

I’m with those who believe it will harm businesses (and general attendance of downtown activities). I can’t count how many times I’ve heard people don’t come to Portland because of parking cost (and difficulty). Downtown Portland is a ghost town compared to how many people live here and the surrounding areas but when you go to places on the outskirts where it’s easy and free to park there seems to be a vibrant presence of people. Of course there are other factors that have people not choosing downtown to shop, stroll etc but parking is a major factor. I don’t think extending the hours of when you have to pay for it is a good idea. I especially think it’s a mistake to charge parking on Sundays. I think the focus should be on making it easy and free-cheap to get to museums, businesses and community events. Btw I say this as someone who walks or bikes into downtown as much as possible. 

~Chaning 

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[Winston Lumpkins]

Would people feel differently if the money where earmarked for bus service improvements?  That is something that the "high cost of free parking" recommends, that funds be directed towards improving pedestrian and bicyclist safety, and certainly increased bus services on Sundays seems to fit with that theory. 

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[Damon Yakovleff]

A counter argument here is that paid parking makes it far more likely your will find a spot closer to a given destination. So the pro/anti business argument cuts both ways. 

The argument about extending hours also comes down to yet another situation where Council needs to select from a menu of unpalatable options and select the lesst objectionable. In this case, its a matter of choice between cuts (when we are already bare bones) or raising revenue. As for how to raise revenue, fees are more palatable than additional property tax increases. And parking fees will come largely from people with disposable income, including suburbanites and tourists.

Ultimately what we need is a more equitable solution for revenue. That should includede local option meals and lodging, as well as expanding credits through the Property Tax Fairness Credit and PSTEP program. I am hopeful we see more progress on these in 2027 under the next Governor.

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[Winston Lumpkins]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kzzpf-a65LBjAUz7SA191I512a8IIYqal_1_B_mXV0I/mobilebasic

For reference, our parking policy letter from a few yeara back.  We recommended extending parking fees till 9pm & charging on Sundays but with limited Sunday enforcement.

We recommended that the money be directed to improve bus services.

Some of that info is outdated; landlords subject to rent control can't raise rents to cover property tax increases directly anymore, though landlords like mine who are exempt certainly can, and putting more pricing pressure on rental properties is a sh*t idea in my opinion. 

-Winston 

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[James Cradock]

Yes. 

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[Rauschpfeife]

Imposing a fee on holidays doesn't mean that you have to enforce it, or not in a comprehensive way, anyhow. Spot-checks are fine. I was delighted to see the term "meter maid", a phrase from my childhood. But you could have one to roam the entire city, and write 100 tickets in a day. Ideally she would have priorities: 1) Tesla Cybertrucks; 2) SUVs et sim.; 3) Especially fancy brands; 4) Every other poor schnook. 

That would do it. Probably pay her salary, too. 

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[Rauschpfeife]

There's really only one way to find out whether or not doing X will have consequence Y. Philosophically, it's called "empiricism". More demotically, FAFO. Let's try it and see what the consequences are for business. If they start hurting because people suddenly have to pay a few bucks to park, then re-consider. Myself, I doubt that they will. I think this "harm business" trope is chimaerical. 

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[Rauschpfeife]

Suburbanites wouldn't. They hate anything to do with transit, and really, any public expenditure that isn't either a) for cars, or b) to get their kids into a slightly more prestigious college. 

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[Maya Lena]

Michael et al.,

I would strongly discourage this kind of broad stereotyping of people who do care deeply about transit, but may live in a less-transit oriented area for any number of factors - housing costs would be a huge one. We need to stop blaming individuals for the lack of transit prioritization, the bulldozing of urban neighborhoods and the removal of street cars by our local government(s) over many years.

We need to start including our "suburbanite" neighbors (Gorham, Westbrook, Scarborough etc) in these conversations or we are never going to get any traction with regional transit.

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[Rauschpfeife]

I'm sure that Maya is an admirable exception to my broad-brush generalization about "suburbanites", and I certainly share her interest in better transit. 

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[Scsmedia]

There really is no such thing as earmarking funding for specific purposes, especially since the Metro is an independent agency that we provide some of the funding for.

As you can see, Parking is already a cash cow for the city.  They lump meter revenue in with ticket revenue under Parking Administration.

This is the revenue slide from the parking presentation.  The Parking Director noted that the "recruit" three time the amount of cost on an overtime shift.  I assume he means they ticket that much.

Rough Math 8 hours at $30 per hour = $240 cost of employee.  That is less than ten tickets to make back the cost.  I suspect they write 10 tickets per hour.

Parking Dept discussion starts at 55:22 on this video.  https://portlandme.portal.civicclerk.com/event/9561/media

Wes asked about the cost of maintaining the street parking spots.  The Parking Division did not understand the question.

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[Rauschpfeife]

I was hoping somebody else would say this. "Earmarking" is generally a scam. It simply means money from other sources is reduced. Money is fungible, and "earmarking" is a hocus-pocus of accountancy. 

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[Winston Lumpkins]

I'd like to encourage everyone to think carefully about emails sent to the whole list. I will only call myself out by name: I so rarely see the council consider anything we've advocated for that I got too defensive. I support this policy because I think reduced cruising for parking would make downtown safer for bicycles and pedestrians, and I believe it would be possible to allocate an equivalent amount to the funds raised each year by this expansion to metro; the rest is just a supporting argument, relevant to the council but not this group. I apologize for making it here.

Any member in good standing (we somewhat recently changed voting rights to phase out if someone hasn't attended a meeting in 12 months, re-instateable by attending 2 meetings or events in a 4 month time span) is welcome to make a motion to rescind our parking policy proposal at our next meeting.  Or at the following meeting if you need to establish voting rights, though, please only do that if you plan to continue to be engaged with the group! 

This is a public forum: information about and arguments for and against items the group may make decisions are welcome, but try to write with enough time and care that you're not sending more emails than necessary: every email sent here is emailing all 200+ members of the group. 

I've been organizing for safer streets in Portland for a majority of my politically active life, in all of Portland, both on and off the Peninsula, and I do not believe generalizations about urban and suburban neighborhood tensions can be made about Portlanders.  The people I've worked with and helped all want safer streets, in their neighborhoods and city wide. PBPAC's mission is to give everyone who lives in Portland an organization to help them and a platform to demand safe streets in their neighborhoods. Organizations such as the neighborhood associations advocate for specific neighborhoods, we advocate for the safety of all vulnerable road users no matter what part of the city they live in.  I encourage everyone to remember that we are all working together!  

Thanks, 

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[Maya Lena]

Thank you, Winston. 

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