NS22 Head replacement for Wilcox-Crittenden Head-mate?

[Jeffrey Silver]

Anyone have experience with a replacement head (Jabsco - Manual compact?) that fits using the same bolt pattern?

Thanks,

Jeff Silver

Sliver NS22 #94

Montreal.

[Ernie Abugov N22 - #56 "Moustaches" Toronto]

Hi Jeff -

I replaced my W-C toilet with a compact Jabsco. I knew that the bolt holes (actually lag screws - not bolts) would never line up. So, I bought a large white plastic food cutting board from a restaurant supplier in Toronto ($18.00). I fooled around with the new toilet, trying different placements. In the end, I placed it a slight angle thus creating more "legroom" for sitting. Knowing where it was going to end up, I trimmed/cut the cutting board such that it covered the old holes in the floor. The floor is fibreglass with plywood under it. I put a few blobs of 3M4200 on the underside of the trimmed cutting board and Robertson screwed the cutting board, exactly where I wanted it, to the floor.

I, then, was able to lag screw the new toilet to the new "floor", going through the cutting board AND the old floor. I had to buy 4 somewhat longer lag screws as I was going through more material (and attaching the toilet even more solidly than it was previously i.e. through a thicker floor).

I pre-drilled starter holes for the both the Robertson screws in BOTH floors (after placing and "glueing"down the cutting board). Then, I pre-drilled starter holes for the 4 lag screws for the toilet. It is VERY solidly attached.

Other suggestions - If you are changing the holding tank, excellent. If you are doing that, make certain that you change ALL the hoses. Break the bank and buy Raritan top-of-the-line hoses - they retard any smells.

Just think .... a nice new toilet plunbed into a nice clean tank using nice clean hoses. Priceless.

I've attached a photo of my installation. The Jabsco does a fine job.

Ernie A. in Toronto

[Terence Cutts]

Ernie,  hope you ate sailing with fair winds,

was this head replacement recent?

do you still have the W-C I can use for parts?

Terence Cutts

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[Terence Cutts]

I have an W-C imperial 52.

If anyone is changing theirs out.

I would love to use the pump portion for parts PLEASE.

Terry Cutts C.E.T.

647-856-0377

On Jun 6, 2022, at 12:18 AM, Terence Cutts <nonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ernie,  hope you ate sailing with fair winds,

was this head replacement recent?

do you still have the W-C I can use for parts?

Terence Cutts

nonsu...@gmail.com

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[Peter Grabow]

Hi Jeff,

My 30U originally came with a WC Head-Mate. After a few pump replacements, I finally just replaced it because Thetford (who bought WC) no longer makes/has pumps or parts for replacing fixing the pump.

I bought a Raritan PH Superflush (this is the manual version, not electric).  It was easy to install, I reused the lag-bolts from the old toilet, but had to drill a couple of new holes for the base. I filled the unused holes with 3M 4200 but they were all covered by the new toilet. Apparently, the toilet had been moved at one point by the previous owner (my father) probably to adjust for the change in pumps, as there were a few holes that were not being used when I removed the old unit.

I bought the Raritan PH Superflush from Anchor Express for under $278US. This was in Early May. I thought this a very good price.

Photos attached

Peter Grabow

S/V CAKE WALK III

1987 30U 430

Jersey City, NJ

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 7:00:09 PM UTC-4 jeffr...@gmail.com wrote:

[Joe Valinoti]

Peter:  I see two different heads in your photos.

 

Joe Valinoti
5309 Bogue Drive
Oriental, NC 28571
252 249-1655
joes...@gmail.com

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[Ernie Abugov N22 - #56 "Moustaches" Toronto]

Joe -

I think that Peter is showing us his old head, the new head and the bolt holes by themselves.

Ernie A. in Toronto

[Ernie Abugov N22 - #56 "Moustaches" Toronto]

Jeff -

I paid the princely sum of $185.00 CAD + HST for my Jabsco. I bought it from Genco in Toronto just before the January Boat Show. Sandra and I day sail our boat and maybe spend a weekend or two. We don't do long trips and the head gets minimal use. This is why I went with an ordinary quality (but very popular) head. Parts are easy to get and the thing works well.

We are happy with it.

Ernie A. in Toronto

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:30:33 PM UTC-4 joes...@gmail.com wrote:

[Peter Grabow]

Hi Joe,

I hope this finds you well!

Yes, the old unit that was removed, and the new unit that I installed... sorry for any confusion, the photos should have been labeled old and new... along with the photo 'between' units.

Peter

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:30:33 PM UTC-4 joes...@gmail.com wrote:

[Brian @ SV Serenity]

Possibly unhelpful

https://imgur.com/r/sailing/v58w3W6

Brian

SV Serenity

Nonsuch Nereus #003

Pax River, MD

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 7:00:09 PM UTC-4 jeffr...@gmail.com wrote: